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  1. QueenBeeTheGreat (Bow Down&Drink Gin)
    Rank: Leading Character

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    Bc she's telling Don that she has to do things too and he can't just assume that she is free. I find that selfish on Don's part bc he did exactly what Megan said - he is used to always have a woman who is putting him, his needs and wished before her own. Megan is different. Why aren't you saying that Don is selfish bc he didn't offer to drive Sally to school (then no one would have had to stay at home). He comes and goes at he pleases anyway, so what's the big deal? Yes, he did have a meeting but so did Megan. To say that she puts everything second to it is ridiculous. Almost everyone on this show puts work before everything else - how do you think did last weeks sl work?

  2. QueenBeeTheGreat (Bow Down&Drink Gin)
    Rank: Leading Character

    Don doesn't have the standing to 'fire' another partner.

    Don didn't fire him per se. He gave him an out with his head held high. He gave him the chance to resign instead of telling the other partners about what he did which would have led to a public humiliation for Lane and eventually still in firing him. So no one else had to know and he could just find another job without his embezzlement known - bc then no one would have wanted him anymore.

    I have to say, I'm starting to slightly dislike Megan, she's so obsessed with becoming an actress, everything else has to come second because of it.
    She's been acting more and more selfish lately.
    There's more to life than just a career.


    As much as I'm not a fan of Megan, are we watching the same show? This is Mad Men. Everyone on SDCP is "obsessed" with their jobs. What is wrong with Megan pursuing her dream too? How does it make her selfish? Bc she's telling Don that she has to do things too and he can't just assume th

  3. Boofyroo

    As riveting as the scene between the two men in Don's office was, in reality, just would not have happened. Don doesn't have the standing to 'fire' another partner. this would have had to be put to a vote and even then would be a lengthy legal separation (even supposing the other partners agreed). Lane also had a substantial investment in the company (hence the owed taxes) so a full accounting would have to be done and some kind of financial settlement made before he could be 'ousted' given Lane's fiancial sraits this could have been a positive thing for him. it's a little bit difficult to buy the idea that Lane's character would not be aware of something so obvious (he is the most financially savvy of all the partners, after all). In light of this it makes the 'embezzlement' and financial ruin storyline very unbelievable and therefore the suicide just all the more ridiculous. I think it spoiled the episode a little knowing that. having said all that it was still a brilliant episode.

  4. gatvfan
    Rank: Guest Star

    I going to miss Lane. I was suprised when he forged the check. If only he could have trusted his partners to help him.

    Kenny doesn't like Pete any more than I do.

    I miss Peggy but understand why she had to leave.

    Don did the right thing in firing Lane. How could he trust him with expenses in the future.

  5. LelaRose
    Rank: Regular Character

    Megan didn't really irritate me this episode. I actually don't think she was selfish. Don drops everything for his career, why can't Megan do the same thing? Why should Megan be responsible for his kids if he won't be? She had something important on Monday morning too. Sally was old enough to be on her own, its not Megan's fault she ran off. Betty is home full time, that's why she takes the kids. Yet every time we turn around she's dumping them on Don and Megan because Sally is too old to put up with her head games. I am a Betty fan but even I know she's not the best mother. When you don't know how to hug your own child, you know something's weird. She was raised to be cold, so she is. Sally and Betty love each other but there was bound to be difficulties, Sally is a lot like Don.

  6. LelaRose
    Rank: Regular Character

    Ah mothers, love 'em or hate 'em we always seem to run home to their arms. I loved that Sally and Glen got to hang out this episode. They had a moment where they were so happy, only to have it taken from them by Mother Nature.

  7. LelaRose
    Rank: Regular Character

    Poor Lane indeed. That entire scene was gut wrenching. I thought that he was going to give up after the Jaguar incident too.

    I was thankful that they did his makeup to be realistic, most people seem to think that hanging yourself isn't as frightening as other suicides but there really is no pretty way to die. Mad Men is very good at shattering illusions.

    I don't think Don is to blame. Lane did steal from the company. His partners would have lent him the money because they understood that he was fundamental in making SCDP to begin with. They might have grumbled a bit but they would have quietly helped him. In the end, he didn't trust anyone. Its sad, because he was so great. He was really smart and could have been very successful at a different firm if he had taken Don's way out. But the idea of losing something he'd worked so hard for, just finished him. He'd been under so much pressure that this was just the final blow for a very desperate and ultimately, lonely man. Rest in pe

  8. QueenBeeTheGreat (Bow Down&Drink Gin)
    Rank: Leading Character

    Yeay Betty! :)

    I love Don, but I do think he could have handled the discovery of the check differently.

    I disagree. I think Don handled the situation perfectly. He could have done much "worse". He even said he would pay for it and no one else had to know. That was very noble of him. He didn't want Lane to lose face or for him to be done completely when his embezzlement would have come out. But he couldn't keep him in the firm bc he couldn't trust him again and that I could understand. Yes, ofc he helped building the firm in the first place but that doesn't give him the right to steal. He was putting the entire company in danger with what he did. It wasn't Don's fault that Lane killed himself. That was his decision (and a selfish one at that - leaving behind his wife and son). Ofc it will affect Don strongly next episode and next season but Don was the good one here.

  9. chrissie

    Love Don + his style...when is his wife going to find out Roger had sex wih her mother??

  10. Betty Draper
    Rank: Recurring Character

    @MadMenfan welcome to the club then :) every Betty fan is more then welcomed.. Sadly I think we saw the last of her for this season though, since the finale again looks like a Megan heavy episode :( At least her story ended on a good note..
    Kenny surprised me as well, I think he's trying to kick Pete out of the agency.
    And I still think Joan is way too smart to be fooled by one Pete Campbell, she should have known that he would play dirty and she should have kicked his ass at his first speech about Cleopatra. In the end it was her choice, nobody forced her. Now that she's lost Lane, another friend after Peggy she is going to have a even harder time.

  11. MadMenFan

    *continuation of previous message*


    When Don came to her apartment to tell her she should not do it, it made a huge impact on her. But as we all saw, it was too late.
    Anyhow, as I really like Joan, I think this way we'll get to see more scenes with her from now on.

    Kenny's and Roger's scenes together in this week's episode were really powerful.

    I hope Peggy won't be M.I.A. next season..

    I still feel so sorry for Lane, but all in all another amazing episode. Mad Men really is one of the best tv shows ever made.

  12. MadMenFan

    Poor Lane, I can't believe he's gone. He must have been really desperate.
    And although I understand Don felt like he couldn't trust him anymore, I still wish he handled the whole situation differently.
    I'm really going to miss Lane, I enjoyed all story lines involving him.

    I'm a Betty fan too and I hope we get to see more of her next season.
    I really liked Betty's scenes with Sally this week, especially because sometimes Sally can be so obnoxious, even mean.
    Betty really loves her children, she just doesn't know how to show it.

    I have to say, I'm starting to slightly dislike Megan, she's so obsessed with becoming an actress, everything else has to come second because of it.
    She's been acting more and more selfish lately.
    There's more to life than just a career.

    And I still believe Joan slept with that Jaguar guy last week because she thought everyone was ok with it. Even Roger and Don.
    I think it made her feel very cheap, so she went ahead and slept with that guy.
    Wh

  13. Penny321
    Rank: New User

    I didn't think Lane was acting out of character at all by forging Don's name and then committing suicide. He was facing financial ruin; the prospect of having to face his abusive father as a failure; the loss of his British pride--makes it easy for me to understand. When you're young, it's easy to bounce back. Lane was a settled, middle-aged man. He had more to lose. Also, he was the sensitive type. Don commented that he had had to start over lots of times, but Don is a different kind of guy. To Lane, the prospect of starting all over again was akin to climbing Mount Everest in his bare feet (dumb analogy, I know, but you get my drift).

    I love Don, but I do think he could have handled the discovery of the check differently. Everything Lane said was true. None of them would be sitting there if not for him, and he never did get the accolades that the bigger personalities got. I felt he deserved some consideration. Anything but having the rug pulled out from under his whole

  14. Betty Draper
    Rank: Recurring Character

    I liked that Don took care of Glenn. This kid seems really lost and unhappy, he is being bullied and his mother never really cared. It was a big gesture of Don to let him drive and make him happy even though Sally did a mistake by inviting him over without asking first.
    Oh Lane, poor Lane. I felt so sorry for him, I knew it was going to happen as soon as Don fired him. First I was angry at Don, but it really wasn't his fault. He was even willing to pay for him and to not tell the others. It was a bit too much that he hung himself just like Don's half brother did. Don seems to be cursed or something.

  15. Betty Draper
    Rank: Recurring Character

    Hey Queen, I'm here :)
    I was just writing that Dan Forcella (the reviewer) isn't the only Betty fan, we are too! We can make a Betty fan club, it would have 3 members but hey, that's a start!
    I'm so glad Sally finally saw who her real mother is. I mean Megan is great, but more like a fun older sister. Betty is her mother, the one she will fight with as loud as she can but also the only one who understands and be there for her in times like this. A mother isn't supposed to be your best friend, she is supposed to love, care and raise you up. I had my problems with Betty's ways sometimes but I think her children always come first no matter what. She would never have left Sally alone the whole day like Megan did, she would cancel the audition and stayed with her daughter even if they only screamed at each other.

  16. QueenBeeTheGreat (Bow Down&Drink Gin)
    Rank: Leading Character

    clearly it cut my previous post again

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    I begin to think that putting Joan through the pimping-out last episode was the excuse to bring her in as partner (and with that give her a bigger role with more screentime?). I think they could have done that differently instead of letting her and almost every other character act totally out of themselves but well, probably they have some bigger picture in mind that we can't see yet ;)

  17. QueenBeeTheGreat (Bow Down&Drink Gin)
    Rank: Leading Character

    At first you could see Betty could hardly put her arms around Sally...Is she that afraid to show her daughter affection? She has to be the worst TV Mom out there

    Really, that's what you're going with? She was clearly surprised that Sally finally needed her again as her mum without acting like the spoiled brat she is and not pretending to be an adult. I guess it had been a while since Sally had put her arms around Betty or shown any affection whatsoever so I guess why she was surprised and therefore hesitant at first. When she comforted her while Sally was lying in bed one could clearly see how much she loves Sally and is thankful for that brief moment when she got her little girl back.

  18. QueenBeeTheGreat (Bow Down&Drink Gin)
    Rank: Leading Character

    @Betty Draper, where are you? I want to talk with you about MM! ;)

    I didn't think that anyone would die bc I didn't really see it have an impact like it would have on a show like Grey's Anatomy or any other show that is mostly focused on the relationships between characters but in the course of the episode I did expect Lane to kill himself. Tbh I never liked his character so I am not really sad about it but I see why they did it: Bc Don was the one who found out about his embezzlement and fired him. So he's going to be the one feeling responsible for his suicide. I guess it's either going to be another downward spiral with him going back to his usual ways (cheating) and his relationship with Megan is going to be not like it was before. I also think that the Business-Don we've all known from previous seasons is coming back again.

    I begin to think that putting Joan through the pimping-out last episode was the excuse to bring her in as partner (and with that give her a bigger role w

  19. Sandy

    The last 2 episodes have been excellent! I too would've preferred not watching the stained undies. But Sally's attitude is all part of the teenage rebellion. I prefer to watching MadMen kids then The Good wife brats any day!

  20. leenokinnee
    Rank: Guest Star

    It's going to take a while for me to get the image of Lane's corpse hanging against the door out of my head. Even though the entire storyline with the embezzlement felt out of character, Jared Harris really delivered in this episode. I think I realized for the first time how unlike everyone else he is at that firm. Don finding out about the check represented a huge failure for him, and unlike Don, who is able to take a failure and bounce back from it, Lane figured he could never get past this disgrace. Desperate times, I guess.

    More Betty Draper! To be fair, I think Betty was just as surprised that Sally was acting like a child who needed her mother instead of trying to act like an adult. Sally Draper can be pretty funny to watch on screen, but if I ever talked to my parents that way I would've been slapped in the mouth and forced to go on that ski trip. I also could've done without the shot of Sally Draper's stained underwear...just a little too much for me.

    I am pret

  21. elvis333
    Rank: New User

    I am a huge fan of Mad Men, but I am surprised at all of the positive reviews. This show used to be subtle, it used to be about observing people closely, and the writing was always deft and three steps ahead of the viewers. There have been a lot of big dramatic story developments lately that seem off from how the show used to be. Last night was the first time I found the writing predictable, hackneyed, and common. From the empty elevator easter egg of several episodes ago I've been waiting for someone to die. Before this episode, when i saw the previews I guessed this would be Jared Harris' last episode. Then the scene before he got in the jaguar I said, he's going to kill himself. Then when they went to the jaguar I said - the jaguar's not going to work. The point is not that I am smart, it's that the writing has always been unpredictabe and reaked of real life. These last couple of episods have been really soap opera-ish and the writing is clumsier than usual imho. Serioius

  22. Roger Rules

    Have to say I had not realized Peggy was gone until I read it in a review. Her character has become tired to me.
    This was a great episode and I agree with the previous poster that Glenn is the caller. The kid is creepy even when he's sympathetic and the cheesy mustache doesn't help.

    BTW...

    ROGER RULES!

  23. d

    oh? my previous comment is on hold for moderation... I wonder why?!

  24. d

    I would like to add there is something creepy about Glenn, I have a feeling he is the one molesting Megan with phone calls. When she answered the phone he asked: "Was it Betty?" not Mrs. Francis or Draper, just Betty. Great casting and great show. Too bad it's almost over!

  25. ItzaTrap!

    I had started to loose faith in this show. I kept saying that it has lost it's vision, and that it wasn't going anywhere. And then last weeks episode blew me away, and I said I guess I was wrong. And then this weeks episode was just as captivating as the last. Mad Men is back ladies and gentlemen. Can't wait for the finale!


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