(continued)
Two other things that were off: Anson was supposed to be in a Cafe. He wasn't, he was in a casino. It's Atlantic City, not Vegas - are there slot machines in all the cafes too? Didn't look like a cafe. And they just happened to already be in the same place? Plus, whoever Anson was on the phone with had him generally spooked/scared. I think that's why Nate was able to take him out with one punch - he as already off his game (usually he's in control). But the bigger questions about that specific short scene are:
A) where was Anson really, and why? B) who was he talking to? C) why did Nate just HAPPEN to be in the same place - was Nate actually a mole of some kind (maybe wife/kid weren't really gone for that reason, maybe were hostages like Rebecca's brother in a way)? Could Nate have been TRYING to make their presence at the hotel known? He's actually pretty savvy.
A lot of groundwork set up in a short period of time for a big mystery to unrave
Has anyone been able to figure out the trajectory of the bullet? NONE of it made sense. Nate was standing DIRECTLY behind Anson. Anson was shot center mass in the chest. The hole in the sign, with the fraying pointing towards them, is center mass-level as well. The hole in Nate's chest, however, was on his lower, right ribcage. Possibly enough to clear through his lungs and his heart? But no visible exit wound (doesn't mean there wasn't one). Was this a JFK magic bullet or something??
I think it's important. Matt Nix isn't generally sloppy about details, and they wouldn't have showed the sign (they zoomed in on it) were it not for a reason.
Two shooters perhaps?
I think I'd be surprised if it was Rebecca.
Two other things that were off: Anson was supposed to be in a Cafe. He wasn't, he was in a casino. It's Atlantic City, not Vegas - are there slot machines in all the cafes too? Didn't look like a cafe. And they just happened to alrea
sandee
July 29th, 2012 8:43 PM
I keep wondering why Jeffery Donovan has not won an Emmy. Sharon Gless was perfect as the grieving mother (probably will be even better next episode. I liked Nate too but they never fully fleshed out his character though I feel bad for everyone who knows him.
Zia Rank: Regular Character
July 29th, 2012 9:39 AM
Jade....relax. We all have our opinions, no one gets everything right every time, and I'm sure that includes you.
I'm sad that Nate is gone, the little brother that is a screw up, did add to the show. But if someone had to go, then I think they picked the right one. Now Michael will spend some time looking for Nate's killer. Rebecca is a good theory, but that also might where the writers want us to think its going. We will see.
I'm glad the Anson part is done. I love Ayn, and I hope we see her again. Maybe as the client of the week. Glad Fiona is out and they did not drag that out too long. I loved the scene where Michael tells his Mom, great acting. I'm sure there has to be some feelings of guilt from Michael and a little anger from Mom towards Michael. This is a great show, sorry to see only a couple left before another break.
Jade
July 28th, 2012 11:19 PM
Who is jason nix?!?! It's MATT NIX! Get the facts correct.
Regarding rebecca behind the attempted murder, yeah you should go back & watch or REwatch the previous couple of episodes before commenting.
Bottom line - not enough homework done before penning your review.
The past few episodes didn't do much justice to nate. That's harsh. The build up could have been better. Will definitely miss him. RIP nate.
Michael
July 28th, 2012 10:46 PM
You know who it could be the guy who train Michael
tahonia
July 28th, 2012 4:56 PM
Now this is just too picky--but after the shot, everyone was looking UP for the shooter, but the trajectory couldn't be from someone who was up high or a sniper from far away. It went through Anson's torso, and then Nate's lower chest and then about chest high (?) on the sign. I know I'm taking fandom to a ridiculous level, but there needs to be some respect for physics.... The hole behind Nate was a lovely piece of artwork, is it tied into the storytelling? as to where the shooter must have been???
Ra
July 28th, 2012 8:52 AM
Why would Rebecca shoot Anson? Yes she tried to have fi killed but under ansons orders. He never actually hurt her brother just threatend to. It just doesn't add up. Not that it matters but I don't think whoever shot Nate meant to he was just collateral damage and at the wrong place at the wrong time. It has to be someone else.
Hmm
July 28th, 2012 12:20 AM
I've been a loyal Burn Notice fan every single episode since the pilot aired. Seeing Nate go was pretty sad. He wasn't a central character necessarily, but he brought that troublesome little brother vibe to the show. He's part of what made Burn Notice so awesome in the beginning. Instead of Michael Westin being like every other spy on TV, he's always had this achilles heel in his family. He's a calm and collected individual until Nate shows up and gets under his skin immediately! Nate evolved as a character though. He went from being an obnoxious liability in the first season to a valuable, loyal tool whenever he showed up. Did he do it with style? No. But he was loyal and always willing to stick his neck out there for the team. He was reckless but with the best of intentions. And whenever he showed up, it would bring me back to that summer of '07 and when the show was fresh and easygoing. So long Nate! Things just got fictitiously real!
fortyseven Rank: Regular Character
July 28th, 2012 12:17 AM
Excellent. I didn't care for Nate. I'm betting on Rebecca as the shooter.
Rewatching the episode, after Nate was hit he went backwards suggesting that the bullet first went through Anson, then Nate and the sign. Also, the overhead angle showed no wound on Nate's chest where he had previously been holding it.
Sally
July 27th, 2012 7:52 PM
In all fairness, as I comment, I missed the first 10-15 mins, so I might have missed something important. I wasn't surprised it was nate, there have been spoilers out for weeks that someone was going to die and it was going to effect madeline personally. I thought for a nano-second it might be jesse, because she has grown to care for him as she does the others, but as soon as michael yelled at him and threw him out of the hotel room, I knew 100%. I agree he didn't bring much to most storylines he was in, but I did like him. Even though I wasn't surprised, I did tear a little when michael ran to his side and he said he was scared, and then when michael had to tell his mother (although I personally think that scene between mike and maddie would have played out better if you couldn't hear them, just see the reactions). As much as I love jeffrey donovan, I didn't think last night was his best work - the scene while nate was dying or when he told his mother or when Fi was released from pris
Suzanne
July 27th, 2012 4:17 PM
It was painfully obvious from quite early in the episode that Nate was going to be the one to die (they had teased that "someone won't make it back") - who else would it be? If any of the major characters died, that would end the structure that makes this show work. And Jesse has become one of those central characters, so it came down to whats-er-name the FBI agent or Nate, and, once he had the fight with Michael and screwed up twice, it was clear. And the final nail in his coffin was when Michael told him not to engage Anson. Bye-bye, Nate!
Excited Fan
July 27th, 2012 2:12 PM
I'm of the same opinion like many others that Nate's character didn't add a lot to the Burn Notice storyline. However, I was shocked to see him murdered. I did not see that coming at all. The scene between Mike and his mother was heartbreaking.
It's great that Fiona has finally been released from jail and I am looking forward to future episodes of this exciting show!!!
Terrie Rank: Regular Character
July 27th, 2012 2:06 PM
If you ask me, it's really a no brainer that Rebecca was the one that was doing the shooting. She was after Anson for what he'd done to her and her brother. No doubt she knew every move Michael made. She wouldn't set idly by and just wait for this to go down. Nate was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Hopefully, this will move the show away from WHO BURNED ME to something else.
It will be interesting to see how the relationship between Michael and his mother may change because of Nate's death and how that could intertwine with his relationship with Fiona.
Argonath
July 27th, 2012 1:38 PM
Did anyone but me notice the 'Ode to Heart of Darkness' when Barry called Sam's launcher his BOOMSTICK?
Katie
July 27th, 2012 1:14 PM
As to the article stating that Rebecca was the one behind Fi's attempted murder, Rebecca was at the prison guards' house when Sam when taken hostage. So yes, she was behind it. Furthermore, I'm curious to see how the loss of Nate will alter the relationship between michaels mother & the rest of the crew, losing a child is hard no matter what the circumstance, let alone in such a violent & mysterious way.
@ Slobodan The shooter shot THROUGH Nate to get to Anson. Not a scratch.
Chi
July 27th, 2012 11:35 AM
I didn't like Nate's character either but I didn't want to see him die either...it's sad, the effect it's going to have on all the other characters. It'll be interesting to see where the show goes from here. It's got my attention, that's for sure! This was a great episode. Very emotional.
MrWriteSF Rank: Guest Star
July 27th, 2012 11:20 AM
I'm glad Anson's gone, but death was too good for him--I'd sooner see him tried and jailed.
I'm with some of the other posters: Where's Rebecca? An entire ep without her, she knew where Anson would be, she knew Michael would find him...
Michael
July 27th, 2012 9:41 AM
I am sad Nate was killed I though it would be barney but I think Nate was more shocking I guess my thing is why Kill Arson so soon
Michael
July 27th, 2012 8:29 AM
I too wonder if it was Rebecca that killed Nate or Arson or if it was the birtisa CIA
sommer
July 27th, 2012 8:20 AM
I'm glad they killed Nate off. He served no purpose in the show, and only aggravated me every-time he was onscreen. I actually called it when the ep started, I said I hope they kill Nate off and they did (fear me!)Let's face it, Nate did nothing to expand on the Burn Notice universe. I'm glad it wasn't Dani or Jesse, as I really want to see their story develop further. I was a little bit disappointed there wasn't more omph to Fi's and Mike's reunion, but in lieu of events, I understood why they downplayed it.
John
July 27th, 2012 7:52 AM
I am still left wondering why Matt (not Jason) Nix felt Nate had to die. Hopefully killing that character is more than a short term ratings grab. I was shocked that one bullet did all that damage.
I loved how Nate put Anson down with one punch when seven (i counted) blows from Mike failed to incapacitate Anson in their fight.
Ok ok I am the person who wanted the client of the week back, but this was Mucho forced. Usually the CTW is the main thrust of the show with the macro arc filling in the gaps, but this week Barry and Sam competed for screen time with the hunt for Anson AND Fi trying to avoid MI6.
Now that Anson is gone, what drives Mike? Who is the man behind the man? I am wondering if Rebecca pulled the trigger (i hope not).
And finally Sharon G. deserves an Emmy nomination for that final scene when she was told about Nate. Priceless.
Feedback
July 27th, 2012 7:49 AM
It's 7am my time. I just finished watching Burn Notice and because of Nate Westen, I am craving Hawaiian pizza!
He was a good character, but everyone saw his death coming a mile away. They basically had a SAY GOODBYE WHILE YOU CAN sign on him. They even took away his wife and kid to make his death easier on the audience.
What will trouble Michael will the fact he didn't even get to apologize to Nate before he died. Although, Nate did feel as if he was proud of himself at the end, so at least he got his "moment". He has always been made out to be a failure, it was nice to see him catch Anson and make Michael proud right before he bit the bullet.
Rank: Guest Star
July 30th, 2012 3:12 PM
(continued)
Two other things that were off: Anson was supposed to be in a Cafe. He wasn't, he was in a casino. It's Atlantic City, not Vegas - are there slot machines in all the cafes too? Didn't look like a cafe. And they just happened to already be in the same place? Plus, whoever Anson was on the phone with had him generally spooked/scared. I think that's why Nate was able to take him out with one punch - he as already off his game (usually he's in control). But the bigger questions about that specific short scene are:
A) where was Anson really, and why? B) who was he talking to? C) why did Nate just HAPPEN to be in the same place - was Nate actually a mole of some kind (maybe wife/kid weren't really gone for that reason, maybe were hostages like Rebecca's brother in a way)? Could Nate have been TRYING to make their presence at the hotel known? He's actually pretty savvy.
A lot of groundwork set up in a short period of time for a big mystery to unrave
Rank: Guest Star
July 30th, 2012 3:12 PM
Has anyone been able to figure out the trajectory of the bullet? NONE of it made sense. Nate was standing DIRECTLY behind Anson. Anson was shot center mass in the chest. The hole in the sign, with the fraying pointing towards them, is center mass-level as well. The hole in Nate's chest, however, was on his lower, right ribcage. Possibly enough to clear through his lungs and his heart? But no visible exit wound (doesn't mean there wasn't one). Was this a JFK magic bullet or something??
I think it's important. Matt Nix isn't generally sloppy about details, and they wouldn't have showed the sign (they zoomed in on it) were it not for a reason.
Two shooters perhaps?
I think I'd be surprised if it was Rebecca.
Two other things that were off: Anson was supposed to be in a Cafe. He wasn't, he was in a casino. It's Atlantic City, not Vegas - are there slot machines in all the cafes too? Didn't look like a cafe. And they just happened to alrea
July 29th, 2012 8:43 PM
I keep wondering why Jeffery Donovan has not won an Emmy. Sharon Gless was perfect as the grieving mother (probably will be even better next episode. I liked Nate too but they never fully fleshed out his character though I feel bad for everyone who knows him.
Rank: Regular Character
July 29th, 2012 9:39 AM
Jade....relax. We all have our opinions, no one gets everything right every time, and I'm sure that includes you.
I'm sad that Nate is gone, the little brother that is a screw up, did add to the show. But if someone had to go, then I think they picked the right one. Now Michael will spend some time looking for Nate's killer. Rebecca is a good theory, but that also might where the writers want us to think its going. We will see.
I'm glad the Anson part is done. I love Ayn, and I hope we see her again. Maybe as the client of the week. Glad Fiona is out and they did not drag that out too long. I loved the scene where Michael tells his Mom, great acting. I'm sure there has to be some feelings of guilt from Michael and a little anger from Mom towards Michael. This is a great show, sorry to see only a couple left before another break.
July 28th, 2012 11:19 PM
Who is jason nix?!?! It's MATT NIX! Get the facts correct.
Regarding rebecca behind the attempted murder, yeah you should go back & watch or REwatch the previous couple of episodes before commenting.
Bottom line - not enough homework done before penning your review.
The past few episodes didn't do much justice to nate. That's harsh. The build up could have been better. Will definitely miss him. RIP nate.
July 28th, 2012 10:46 PM
You know who it could be the guy who train Michael
July 28th, 2012 4:56 PM
Now this is just too picky--but after the shot, everyone was looking UP for the shooter, but the trajectory couldn't be from someone who was up high or a sniper from far away. It went through Anson's torso, and then Nate's lower chest and then about chest high (?) on the sign. I know I'm taking fandom to a ridiculous level, but there needs to be some respect for physics.... The hole behind Nate was a lovely piece of artwork, is it tied into the storytelling? as to where the shooter must have been???
July 28th, 2012 8:52 AM
Why would Rebecca shoot Anson? Yes she tried to have fi killed but under ansons orders. He never actually hurt her brother just threatend to. It just doesn't add up. Not that it matters but I don't think whoever shot Nate meant to he was just collateral damage and at the wrong place at the wrong time. It has to be someone else.
July 28th, 2012 12:20 AM
I've been a loyal Burn Notice fan every single episode since the pilot aired. Seeing Nate go was pretty sad. He wasn't a central character necessarily, but he brought that troublesome little brother vibe to the show. He's part of what made Burn Notice so awesome in the beginning. Instead of Michael Westin being like every other spy on TV, he's always had this achilles heel in his family. He's a calm and collected individual until Nate shows up and gets under his skin immediately! Nate evolved as a character though. He went from being an obnoxious liability in the first season to a valuable, loyal tool whenever he showed up. Did he do it with style? No. But he was loyal and always willing to stick his neck out there for the team. He was reckless but with the best of intentions. And whenever he showed up, it would bring me back to that summer of '07 and when the show was fresh and easygoing. So long Nate! Things just got fictitiously real!
Rank: Regular Character
July 28th, 2012 12:17 AM
Excellent. I didn't care for Nate. I'm betting on Rebecca as the shooter.
Rank: Extra
July 27th, 2012 9:48 PM
Rewatching the episode, after Nate was hit he went backwards suggesting that the bullet first went through Anson, then Nate and the sign. Also, the overhead angle showed no wound on Nate's chest where he had previously been holding it.
July 27th, 2012 7:52 PM
In all fairness, as I comment, I missed the first 10-15 mins, so I might have missed something important. I wasn't surprised it was nate, there have been spoilers out for weeks that someone was going to die and it was going to effect madeline personally. I thought for a nano-second it might be jesse, because she has grown to care for him as she does the others, but as soon as michael yelled at him and threw him out of the hotel room, I knew 100%. I agree he didn't bring much to most storylines he was in, but I did like him. Even though I wasn't surprised, I did tear a little when michael ran to his side and he said he was scared, and then when michael had to tell his mother (although I personally think that scene between mike and maddie would have played out better if you couldn't hear them, just see the reactions). As much as I love jeffrey donovan, I didn't think last night was his best work - the scene while nate was dying or when he told his mother or when Fi was released from pris
July 27th, 2012 4:17 PM
It was painfully obvious from quite early in the episode that Nate was going to be the one to die (they had teased that "someone won't make it back") - who else would it be? If any of the major characters died, that would end the structure that makes this show work. And Jesse has become one of those central characters, so it came down to whats-er-name the FBI agent or Nate, and, once he had the fight with Michael and screwed up twice, it was clear. And the final nail in his coffin was when Michael told him not to engage Anson. Bye-bye, Nate!
July 27th, 2012 2:12 PM
I'm of the same opinion like many others that Nate's character didn't add a lot to the Burn Notice storyline. However, I was shocked to see him murdered. I did not see that coming at all. The scene between Mike and his mother was heartbreaking.
It's great that Fiona has finally been released from jail and I am looking forward to future episodes of this exciting show!!!
Rank: Regular Character
July 27th, 2012 2:06 PM
If you ask me, it's really a no brainer that Rebecca was the one that was doing the shooting. She was after Anson for what he'd done to her and her brother. No doubt she knew every move Michael made. She wouldn't set idly by and just wait for this to go down. Nate was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Hopefully, this will move the show away from WHO BURNED ME to something else.
It will be interesting to see how the relationship between Michael and his mother may change because of Nate's death and how that could intertwine with his relationship with Fiona.
July 27th, 2012 1:38 PM
Did anyone but me notice the 'Ode to Heart of Darkness' when Barry called Sam's launcher his BOOMSTICK?
July 27th, 2012 1:14 PM
As to the article stating that Rebecca was the one behind Fi's attempted murder, Rebecca was at the prison guards' house when Sam when taken hostage. So yes, she was behind it. Furthermore, I'm curious to see how the loss of Nate will alter the relationship between michaels mother & the rest of the crew, losing a child is hard no matter what the circumstance, let alone in such a violent & mysterious way.
Rank: Extra
July 27th, 2012 12:56 PM
@ Slobodan The shooter shot THROUGH Nate to get to Anson. Not a scratch.
July 27th, 2012 11:35 AM
I didn't like Nate's character either but I didn't want to see him die either...it's sad, the effect it's going to have on all the other characters. It'll be interesting to see where the show goes from here. It's got my attention, that's for sure! This was a great episode. Very emotional.
Rank: Guest Star
July 27th, 2012 11:20 AM
I'm glad Anson's gone, but death was too good for him--I'd sooner see him tried and jailed.
I'm with some of the other posters: Where's Rebecca? An entire ep without her, she knew where Anson would be, she knew Michael would find him...
July 27th, 2012 9:41 AM
I am sad Nate was killed I though it would be barney but I think Nate was more shocking I guess my thing is why Kill Arson so soon
July 27th, 2012 8:29 AM
I too wonder if it was Rebecca that killed Nate or Arson or if it was the birtisa CIA
July 27th, 2012 8:20 AM
I'm glad they killed Nate off. He served no purpose in the show, and only aggravated me every-time he was onscreen. I actually called it when the ep started, I said I hope they kill Nate off and they did (fear me!)Let's face it, Nate did nothing to expand on the Burn Notice universe. I'm glad it wasn't Dani or Jesse, as I really want to see their story develop further. I was a little bit disappointed there wasn't more omph to Fi's and Mike's reunion, but in lieu of events, I understood why they downplayed it.
July 27th, 2012 7:52 AM
I am still left wondering why Matt (not Jason) Nix felt Nate had to die. Hopefully killing that character is more than a short term ratings grab. I was shocked that one bullet did all that damage.
I loved how Nate put Anson down with one punch when seven (i counted) blows from Mike failed to incapacitate Anson in their fight.
Ok ok I am the person who wanted the client of the week back, but this was Mucho forced. Usually the CTW is the main thrust of the show with the macro arc filling in the gaps, but this week Barry and Sam competed for screen time with the hunt for Anson AND Fi trying to avoid MI6.
Now that Anson is gone, what drives Mike? Who is the man behind the man? I am wondering if Rebecca pulled the trigger (i hope not).
And finally Sharon G. deserves an Emmy nomination for that final scene when she was told about Nate. Priceless.
July 27th, 2012 7:49 AM
It's 7am my time. I just finished watching Burn Notice and because of Nate Westen, I am craving Hawaiian pizza!
He was a good character, but everyone saw his death coming a mile away. They basically had a SAY GOODBYE WHILE YOU CAN sign on him. They even took away his wife and kid to make his death easier on the audience.
What will trouble Michael will the fact he didn't even get to apologize to Nate before he died. Although, Nate did feel as if he was proud of himself at the end, so at least he got his "moment". He has always been made out to be a failure, it was nice to see him catch Anson and make Michael proud right before he bit the bullet.