Teen Wolf Review: Plan B, Be Lydia Comments (Page 2)
63 Comments
Luna
July 13th, 2012 11:19 AM
I believe Peter's "Plan A" was to be a powerful Alpha over a big pack, not to kill other wwolves - maybe I'm remembering it wrong. He could try to use Lydia to kill Derek, but he can't take over the pack as an Alpha through her b/c she's immune to the bite. (Even if he is possessing her mind, I assume her body would have to take the bite to be an Alpha.) If Peter's objective for "Plan B" is only to get revenge on Derek, then okay. But if he wants revenge AND power, then Lydia can't do both. I'm thinking they're either gonna have to create some way for her to be an Alpha without the bite or "Plan B" will be a total game changer...
WTH is goin on!!!first of all the mysterious guys or Young peter hale is very cute!!!and i hate JACKSON FUCKING KANIMA DIGUSTING PIECE OF SHIT SNAKE!!i think the gerald aka snake old man is the master,100%it is!!and MAMA ARGENT she looks like one huge ugly bitch!!!and DEREK!!so hot!!
Alex
July 13th, 2012 3:06 AM
It is kind of obvious that Lydia will kill the alpha. Because the guy Lydia talked to that was the old alpha had a plan a, to kill any other wolves. And now plan b is for Lydia to kill him. That is why she had the wolves bane in her hand.
Crissy
July 12th, 2012 10:25 AM
@Olivianicoleee: I think Lydia is seeing the Alpha because he bit her and she was immune. Somebody said that in werewolf lore, a person who was bitten and didn't change became a "familiar" to the alpha and the alpha could do things thru them. If he's in her head, he probably projected a younger version of himself to be less intimidating and get her to listen to him since she wouldn't listen to the gory looking adult version. I don't see how he can physically come back (he's buried under the house), but looks like he's finally gotten Lydia where he wants her and will use her for "Plan B", whatever that is. Does anybody here have any ideas what Peter is up to?
I am pretty much convinced that Gerrard is the Master. The comment saying he would be old enough, and knows enough about the shape shifters to control Jackson and warn Alison about Scott makes total sense. As for the whole Lydia/old Alpha episode i called the kid being a fake from the beginning but i have no idea whats going on and how she sees the old alpha.
Luna
July 11th, 2012 11:53 AM
@Amanda: BTW, I think you may be right about Mom Argent being the kanima master. Either her or Gerrard (gramps) - they are both evil schemers and Dad Argent is not in running imo b/c he's the most straight-laced hunter in that family. Gotta be an insider who knows about the werewolves and, more importantly, someone who doesn't want her with Scott. Mom Argent fits the bill, but we'll see...
Luna
July 11th, 2012 11:41 AM
For the record, I didn't pick Jackson as the kanima, so I could be totally wrong about this, but...
I doubt Matt (camera guy) or Mr. Harris are the kamina master - I think it's an Argent. It appears the death of the couple in the beginning of the last ep was supposed to show us how future kaminas are selected. Matt and Mr. Harris are both too young to have directed the deaths of Jackson's folks - that person would now be a bit older, like Gerrard. Another reason I believe the master is an Argent is b/c of what he/she made Jackson say to Allison in the locker room - telling her that she isn't safe with Scott and that he will join Derek's pack, etc. - neither Matt nor Mr. Harris would know of those things. Matt doesn't even know what Scott is or why his eyes glow when his pic is taken. An Argent would, though. Something to think about - just sayin!!
chere
July 11th, 2012 12:55 AM
@Luna....omg I totally thought of breakfast club too!!
Mort
July 10th, 2012 11:48 PM
@twsizz DO you remember the cartoon show "A Pup Named Scooby-doo" they had a kid called Red Herring. The science teacher still could be the master but I think he is kinda like Red, he is meant to be suspicions.
tswizz
July 10th, 2012 11:22 PM
how are you all still this blind? the kanimas controller is the chemistry teacher because te bumper stickers were the same in this episode and the one two weeks ago. same quote on the bumper sticker and same car same color....
Amanda
July 10th, 2012 9:45 PM
What if Lydia brings Peter back by having a baby? I never thought the couple at the beginning was a flashback. I did wonder what their signifigance was. I think Mama Argent is the scariest person on the show. Maybe she controls the Kanima.
Mort
July 10th, 2012 9:17 PM
I am going to speculate wildly here, please forgive me. There is a connection between Grandpa Argent, the Hale family's fire and Jacksons parent's deaths. Peter is using Lydia to control Jackson, forcing him to take out others. The wolfsbane flower is a precaution/anti-interference intended for the pack and Scott if the get in the way again.
Luna
July 10th, 2012 8:37 PM
Thanks, Stevey - very cool info! That totally makes sense. I think Peter is def coming back. Question is whether it will really be him or him acting through Lydia? Hmm...
Something about their having detention in the library made me think of The Breakfast Club. Loved it!
Stevey
July 10th, 2012 7:05 PM
Lydia is going to become a familiar to peter. In werewolf mythology if you are bitten and dont die and dont turn you become a familiar.. which basically means she is bound to Peter and has to do what he tells her. And the fact she manifested that flower from out of no where, and the fact it zoomed in on the teachers bumper sticker saying "Imagination is more powerful than knowledge" i think she is going to be able to will peter back to life..
teen wolf fan
July 10th, 2012 4:50 PM
I think the chemistry teacher is related to Jackson because season 1 and this season he's always nice and concern about him. The Kanima is used as a weapon to get revenge so maybe the chemistry teacher is jacksons uncle and he's using Jackson to get revenge on who every was involved in the accident that killed jacksons biological parents.
Luna
July 10th, 2012 3:50 PM
BTW, WTH did the kamina do to that pregnant woman's stomach when they were inside the trailer? WEIRD!!!!
Luna
July 10th, 2012 3:36 PM
I'm probably wrong, but here goes a theory: Maybe Gerrard (Gramps Argent) is the master, the camera kid is another kanima and the chem teacher is being forced to help them. When the teacher gave the police a sketch of Kate's necklace last season, it led to her demise. Since Gerrard probably considers him partly responsible for Kate's death, as the school principal he could threaten his job if he didn't agree to help. If camera dude was also a kamina, then he could've killed the garage boy and Isaac's dad and probably knew them both. IMO it doesn't make any sense for him to be the master: Jackson barely seems to know him and he isn't intimidating - not like Gerrard.
I still can't figure out how Lydia's being immune to the bite is something that would be helpful to Peter on his quest for revenge. Any clues?
ww
July 10th, 2012 3:25 PM
OK. Maybe the MIB scene was a flashback. I guess the storyline works either way.
ww
July 10th, 2012 3:08 PM
You're welcome Chere. They brought it home and showed the bumper sticker in focus this time. Now what we need to figure out is if the chemistry teacher working alone or with others. The Men in Black like scenes, not the Disneyesk version, were showing us the next Kanima story line; they kill off the parents to prompt the creation of the next creature.
Luna
July 10th, 2012 2:56 PM
Wow - great episode! A few thoughts:
1. I actually liked Erica in this episode and I think she and Stiles could be hilarious together if he'd ever give up on Lydia.
2. I kinda thought the dude stalking Lydia looked like a younger version of Peter in the last ep, so no big surprise. Ever since she started seeing Peter, I've thought he'd use her somehow. Why would it benefit his plans for her to be immune, tho? She can't ever be an Alpha, so...???
3. Camera dude is def in on it, but I can't tell if he's the master or another kanima. Chem teacher is in on it, too: did you see the look on his face before he left the school parking lot? Like he was hearing/listening to someone. Then there's that bumper sticker again...
4. If Derek becomes Scott's Alpha, then Derek can override anything that Gerrard (Gramps) Argent demands of Scott for the favor Scott promised him. If Derek makes Scott hurt an Argent, Allison would break up with him.
Channelle
July 10th, 2012 2:30 PM
Ohkay, when Scott's mom told Scott his punishment, I was mad. What do you mean no Stiles? And when Stiles stuck his head through the bookshelf and when he said he was apart of an online gaming website, I was laughing. And maybe it's just me but I can't look at snakes without being crepes the hell out so when Jackson ate the thing and it came out of his mouth, I wanted to puke. And who knew Jackson could fight that good. That was hot!!! And did anyone else think that they saw Peter's eyes open when he was under the house. I haven't seen anyone bring this up yet but I think that the guidance counselor is the master. She pretended to translate the Beastiere wrong to protect Jackson. I kind of think that the guidance counselor, the chemistry teacher, Gerard, and Matt are working together. I think that it was Matt who looped the camera. I mean it IS his camera and he must know how to loop stuff, right and maybe he is just pretending like he's clueless to draw away the suspicion. And isn't a
Channelle
July 10th, 2012 2:25 PM
Ohkay, when Scott's mom told Scott his punishment, I was mad. What do you mean no Stiles? And when Stiles stuck his head through the bookshelf and when he said he was apart of an online gaming website, I was laughing. And maybe it's just me but I can't look at snakes without being crepes the hell out so when Jackson ate the thing and it came out of his mouth, I wanted to puke. And who knew Jackson could fight that good. That was hot!!! And did anyone else think that they saw Peter's eyes open when he was under the house. I haven't seen anyone bring this up yet but I think that the guidance counselor is the master. She pretended to translate the Beastiere wrong to protect Jackson. I kind of think that the guidance counselor, the chemistry teacher, Gerard, and Matt are working together. I think that it was Matt who looped the camera. I mean it IS
ok
July 10th, 2012 12:42 PM
For me Lydia is dead now and Peter is controlling her and she is going to die at season final or she is going to kill a mayor character at season final and she is going to be the next threat/enemy for the new season..Why? Because Jeff tweeted this :''Jeff Davis @JeffDavis75
#teenwolf trivia: A scene in this week's episode, 207, is a direct homage to The Shining, one of my all time favorite movies. ''
see the movie and MARK MY WORDS ....
BELLA
July 10th, 2012 11:39 AM
I LOVE STILES....I WHANT FOR HIM TO BE HAPPY...BUT ERICA DIDN'T HAVE A CRUSH ON STILES.
DEREK PLOT IT.
Derek sends Erica out to flirt. He said "They need to get close" and Erica question was "Stiles or Scott?"
Derek: "Either".
EricA ASKING HIM PERMISSION.
And when Erica kissed Derek he told her THAT HE HAVE SOMEONE ELSE IN MIND FOR HER.
NOW SCOTT AND STILES HAS JOINED DEREKE'S PACK.
NEXT EPISODE SHE DANCING WITH ISAAC AND JACKSON (WHO TRIED TO KILL HER).
THE GIRL HAVE ORDERS TO FLIRT.
Fahad
July 10th, 2012 11:12 AM
i cant get past one thing in this series, i literally abhor the facial expressions both of derek's cronies make, especially isaac, its weird, are they trying too look confident and sexy, cuz they always come off as constipated and its tooooo distracting. same with erica, why would you smile like u smelt something really bad but liked it? :P
Derek: He's turning into that? That has wings.
July 13th, 2012 11:19 AM
I believe Peter's "Plan A" was to be a powerful Alpha over a big pack, not to kill other wwolves - maybe I'm remembering it wrong. He could try to use Lydia to kill Derek, but he can't take over the pack as an Alpha through her b/c she's immune to the bite. (Even if he is possessing her mind, I assume her body would have to take the bite to be an Alpha.) If Peter's objective for "Plan B" is only to get revenge on Derek, then okay. But if he wants revenge AND power, then Lydia can't do both. I'm thinking they're either gonna have to create some way for her to be an Alpha without the bite or "Plan B" will be a total game changer...
Rank: Extra
July 13th, 2012 10:25 AM
WTH is goin on!!!first of all the mysterious guys or Young peter hale is very cute!!!and i hate JACKSON FUCKING KANIMA DIGUSTING PIECE OF SHIT SNAKE!!i think the gerald aka snake old man is the master,100%it is!!and MAMA ARGENT she looks like one huge ugly bitch!!!and DEREK!!so hot!!
July 13th, 2012 3:06 AM
It is kind of obvious that Lydia will kill the alpha. Because the guy Lydia talked to that was the old alpha had a plan a, to kill any other wolves. And now plan b is for Lydia to kill him. That is why she had the wolves bane in her hand.
July 12th, 2012 10:25 AM
@Olivianicoleee: I think Lydia is seeing the Alpha because he bit her and she was immune. Somebody said that in werewolf lore, a person who was bitten and didn't change became a "familiar" to the alpha and the alpha could do things thru them. If he's in her head, he probably projected a younger version of himself to be less intimidating and get her to listen to him since she wouldn't listen to the gory looking adult version. I don't see how he can physically come back (he's buried under the house), but looks like he's finally gotten Lydia where he wants her and will use her for "Plan B", whatever that is. Does anybody here have any ideas what Peter is up to?
Rank: Extra
July 11th, 2012 9:22 PM
I am pretty much convinced that Gerrard is the Master. The comment saying he would be old enough, and knows enough about the shape shifters to control Jackson and warn Alison about Scott makes total sense. As for the whole Lydia/old Alpha episode i called the kid being a fake from the beginning but i have no idea whats going on and how she sees the old alpha.
July 11th, 2012 11:53 AM
@Amanda: BTW, I think you may be right about Mom Argent being the kanima master. Either her or Gerrard (gramps) - they are both evil schemers and Dad Argent is not in running imo b/c he's the most straight-laced hunter in that family. Gotta be an insider who knows about the werewolves and, more importantly, someone who doesn't want her with Scott. Mom Argent fits the bill, but we'll see...
July 11th, 2012 11:41 AM
For the record, I didn't pick Jackson as the kanima, so I could be totally wrong about this, but...
I doubt Matt (camera guy) or Mr. Harris are the kamina master - I think it's an Argent. It appears the death of the couple in the beginning of the last ep was supposed to show us how future kaminas are selected. Matt and Mr. Harris are both too young to have directed the deaths of Jackson's folks - that person would now be a bit older, like Gerrard. Another reason I believe the master is an Argent is b/c of what he/she made Jackson say to Allison in the locker room - telling her that she isn't safe with Scott and that he will join Derek's pack, etc. - neither Matt nor Mr. Harris would know of those things. Matt doesn't even know what Scott is or why his eyes glow when his pic is taken. An Argent would, though. Something to think about - just sayin!!
July 11th, 2012 12:55 AM
@Luna....omg I totally thought of breakfast club too!!
July 10th, 2012 11:48 PM
@twsizz DO you remember the cartoon show "A Pup Named Scooby-doo" they had a kid called Red Herring. The science teacher still could be the master but I think he is kinda like Red, he is meant to be suspicions.
July 10th, 2012 11:22 PM
how are you all still this blind? the kanimas controller is the chemistry teacher because te bumper stickers were the same in this episode and the one two weeks ago. same quote on the bumper sticker and same car same color....
July 10th, 2012 9:45 PM
What if Lydia brings Peter back by having a baby? I never thought the couple at the beginning was a flashback. I did wonder what their signifigance was. I think Mama Argent is the scariest person on the show. Maybe she controls the Kanima.
July 10th, 2012 9:17 PM
I am going to speculate wildly here, please forgive me. There is a connection between Grandpa Argent, the Hale family's fire and Jacksons parent's deaths. Peter is using Lydia to control Jackson, forcing him to take out others. The wolfsbane flower is a precaution/anti-interference intended for the pack and Scott if the get in the way again.
July 10th, 2012 8:37 PM
Thanks, Stevey - very cool info! That totally makes sense. I think Peter is def coming back. Question is whether it will really be him or him acting through Lydia? Hmm...
Something about their having detention in the library made me think of The Breakfast Club. Loved it!
July 10th, 2012 7:05 PM
Lydia is going to become a familiar to peter. In werewolf mythology if you are bitten and dont die and dont turn you become a familiar.. which basically means she is bound to Peter and has to do what he tells her. And the fact she manifested that flower from out of no where, and the fact it zoomed in on the teachers bumper sticker saying "Imagination is more powerful than knowledge" i think she is going to be able to will peter back to life..
July 10th, 2012 4:50 PM
I think the chemistry teacher is related to Jackson because season 1 and this season he's always nice and concern about him. The Kanima is used as a weapon to get revenge so maybe the chemistry teacher is jacksons uncle and he's using Jackson to get revenge on who every was involved in the accident that killed jacksons biological parents.
July 10th, 2012 3:50 PM
BTW, WTH did the kamina do to that pregnant woman's stomach when they were inside the trailer? WEIRD!!!!
July 10th, 2012 3:36 PM
I'm probably wrong, but here goes a theory: Maybe Gerrard (Gramps Argent) is the master, the camera kid is another kanima and the chem teacher is being forced to help them. When the teacher gave the police a sketch of Kate's necklace last season, it led to her demise. Since Gerrard probably considers him partly responsible for Kate's death, as the school principal he could threaten his job if he didn't agree to help. If camera dude was also a kamina, then he could've killed the garage boy and Isaac's dad and probably knew them both. IMO it doesn't make any sense for him to be the master: Jackson barely seems to know him and he isn't intimidating - not like Gerrard.
I still can't figure out how Lydia's being immune to the bite is something that would be helpful to Peter on his quest for revenge. Any clues?
July 10th, 2012 3:25 PM
OK. Maybe the MIB scene was a flashback. I guess the storyline works either way.
July 10th, 2012 3:08 PM
You're welcome Chere. They brought it home and showed the bumper sticker in focus this time. Now what we need to figure out is if the chemistry teacher working alone or with others. The Men in Black like scenes, not the Disneyesk version, were showing us the next Kanima story line; they kill off the parents to prompt the creation of the next creature.
July 10th, 2012 2:56 PM
Wow - great episode! A few thoughts:
1. I actually liked Erica in this episode and I think she and Stiles could be hilarious together if he'd ever give up on Lydia.
2. I kinda thought the dude stalking Lydia looked like a younger version of Peter in the last ep, so no big surprise. Ever since she started seeing Peter, I've thought he'd use her somehow. Why would it benefit his plans for her to be immune, tho? She can't ever be an Alpha, so...???
3. Camera dude is def in on it, but I can't tell if he's the master or another kanima. Chem teacher is in on it, too: did you see the look on his face before he left the school parking lot? Like he was hearing/listening to someone. Then there's that bumper sticker again...
4. If Derek becomes Scott's Alpha, then Derek can override anything that Gerrard (Gramps) Argent demands of Scott for the favor Scott promised him. If Derek makes Scott hurt an Argent, Allison would break up with him.
July 10th, 2012 2:30 PM
Ohkay, when Scott's mom told Scott his punishment, I was mad. What do you mean no Stiles? And when Stiles stuck his head through the bookshelf and when he said he was apart of an online gaming website, I was laughing. And maybe it's just me but I can't look at snakes without being crepes the hell out so when Jackson ate the thing and it came out of his mouth, I wanted to puke. And who knew Jackson could fight that good. That was hot!!! And did anyone else think that they saw Peter's eyes open when he was under the house. I haven't seen anyone bring this up yet but I think that the guidance counselor is the master. She pretended to translate the Beastiere wrong to protect Jackson. I kind of think that the guidance counselor, the chemistry teacher, Gerard, and Matt are working together. I think that it was Matt who looped the camera. I mean it IS his camera and he must know how to loop stuff, right and maybe he is just pretending like he's clueless to draw away the suspicion. And isn't a
July 10th, 2012 2:25 PM
Ohkay, when Scott's mom told Scott his punishment, I was mad. What do you mean no Stiles? And when Stiles stuck his head through the bookshelf and when he said he was apart of an online gaming website, I was laughing. And maybe it's just me but I can't look at snakes without being crepes the hell out so when Jackson ate the thing and it came out of his mouth, I wanted to puke. And who knew Jackson could fight that good. That was hot!!! And did anyone else think that they saw Peter's eyes open when he was under the house. I haven't seen anyone bring this up yet but I think that the guidance counselor is the master. She pretended to translate the Beastiere wrong to protect Jackson. I kind of think that the guidance counselor, the chemistry teacher, Gerard, and Matt are working together. I think that it was Matt who looped the camera. I mean it IS
July 10th, 2012 12:42 PM
For me Lydia is dead now and Peter is controlling her and she is going to die at season final or she is going to kill a mayor character at season final and she is going to be the next threat/enemy for the new season..Why? Because Jeff tweeted this :''Jeff Davis @JeffDavis75
#teenwolf trivia: A scene in this week's episode, 207, is a direct homage to The Shining, one of my all time favorite movies. ''
see the movie and MARK MY WORDS ....
July 10th, 2012 11:39 AM
I LOVE STILES....I WHANT FOR HIM TO BE HAPPY...BUT ERICA DIDN'T HAVE A CRUSH ON STILES.
DEREK PLOT IT.
Derek sends Erica out to flirt. He said "They need to get close" and Erica question was "Stiles or Scott?"
Derek: "Either".
EricA ASKING HIM PERMISSION.
And when Erica kissed Derek he told her THAT HE HAVE SOMEONE ELSE IN MIND FOR HER.
NOW SCOTT AND STILES HAS JOINED DEREKE'S PACK.
NEXT EPISODE SHE DANCING WITH ISAAC AND JACKSON (WHO TRIED TO KILL HER).
THE GIRL HAVE ORDERS TO FLIRT.
July 10th, 2012 11:12 AM
i cant get past one thing in this series, i literally abhor the facial expressions both of derek's cronies make, especially isaac, its weird, are they trying too look confident and sexy, cuz they always come off as constipated and its tooooo distracting. same with erica, why would you smile like u smelt something really bad but liked it? :P