Sons of Anarchy Review: Flipping Out Comments (Page 2)
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Jules
October 24th, 2012 3:00 PM
Ugh, the ending with the blood was too hard to watch given my kids are about Abel's age. I have to agree that somehow Wendy gets a hold of the incident to use in getting / trying to get custody.
chili
October 24th, 2012 2:56 PM
@Ghost Rider: about the white shoes - apparently those white kicks are NorCal style. Charlie Hunnam said in an interview he based Jax's look off of a young real life bike-gang member that he knows so apparently that's where those shoes come from.
And also, I don't think Gemma had a heart attack, if that was the case we wouldn't have seen her smoking pot with Wayne the scene before. She probably knew very well that she was in no condition to drive but she just jumps at those chances that Jax gives her, she wants her family back so when Jax reaches out to her, she's not gonna say "sorry honey but I'm high so I can't drive, you're on your own." The relationship is too fragile for that. And yeah, she coulda told Filthy Phil to drive, but... I mean come on. It's Gemma we're talking about. She choked on her pride there.
Otto's gonna write whatever he wants to write, as long as "it's something that's never been done before". We don't get a vote. There's two seasons left and the story is gonna go the way it goes. This show is better than almost everything else out there imo.
I'm just grateful that, at least it seems so for the time being, that they've stopped chopping up the last scene of recent episodes with some crappy song mixed in with dialog (thank God for closed caption with the mute button.
The song during the chase scene with Nero getting the Caddy was pretty bad, whatever the heck it was suppose to be, as was the song at the end of Ope's funeral...but things are much better than they were so I can't complain :)
Knock on wood!
Che Che
October 24th, 2012 2:09 PM
Jax's first thought on hearing about the SUV accident is that it's tied to the drive-by attack against him, especially if the trucker happens to be black or brown; remember Gemma was knocked unconscious. He will lash out against the Niners and Pope if Abel and/or Gemma are seriously hurt or killed. Gemma may encourage those thoughts to get out of trouble especially if she blabs the truth to Clay; he'll use her to help put together a convenient lie for the both of them.
Ghost Rider
October 24th, 2012 1:50 PM
One...there should be no way that the niners firing a machine gun while Jax was riding, that they missed, it showed Jax limping up the hill, was it from the fall or a bullet? Two...maybe Gemma had another heart attack (has a bad heart) and that is why she passed out. Three...Clay is one of the main characters, I think he will be around for a long time...I also agree with the above comments ( as a long time rider ) " WHAT'S WITH THE WHITE RUNNING SHOES "
chili
October 24th, 2012 1:48 PM
I swear my heart almost stopped when Gemma crashed that car. This is gonna set off a custody trial that Wendy's most likely gonna win. Gemma what the hell were you thinking... I got SO MAD at her when she started dozing off in the car, that's two little kids in there! I can't believe that actually happened. That was dark.
I'm also starting to get a little scared for Juice, what with him being so "close" with Clay, that relationship can't end well.
But for some reason, even though everybody else wants him dead, the more vicious and twisted Clay gets, the more I love him as a character. This stone-cold devil kind of person for some reason always fascinates me.
jayne
October 24th, 2012 1:02 PM
Tammy, Jax is always wearing those white shoes because it's the NorCal style. And the fictional town of Charming is in northern California after all. Jax is one of the younger members of SAMCRO, & I think it's another way for us to see him express himself. I know this because my friend lives in NorCal & the first time we watched together she pointed out shoes (me being from Phoenix I didn't understand why he'd wear white shoes either), she said "look at those white kicks!! That is NorCal style!"
Wendy
October 24th, 2012 12:48 PM
There is no way that Kurt Sutter will "kill off Abel". Bringing Wendy back into the picture on a more regular basis would be a really good scenario, testing Jax and Tara's newly-wedded vows. Loved seeing Joel McHale as a guest star. Can't wait to see Pope's reaction when he finds out what went down...
stressedlake
October 24th, 2012 12:37 PM
Unser should just kill Clay before he gets killed...Clay should have been finished off last season. Juice is starting to see that everything Clay says is a lie and that it will only benefit Clay, Juice needs to go to Jax.
Poor Able, blood dripping from his shoe onto the stuffed dinosaur.....I think he's dead, if he is.....Tara is going to kill Gemma! Jax is going to end up losing it and I don't think Tara and him will stay together, I see Tara taking off with the baby to wherever it was she was going to interview when her hand got screwed up. I was disappointed that Opie died.
guest
October 24th, 2012 12:14 PM
i'm still one of those people who thinks clay should've died last season. i'm just not buying it anymore. it's the same stuff over and over. when exactly is this infamous deal with the irish going to happen, so that they can finally get rid of clay??
BRAINIAC4200
October 24th, 2012 12:13 PM
Am I the only person that thinks the car wreck at the end was the most contrived scenario ever in TV? Why is it necessary to have something that dramatic happen in the wake of Opie's death? Terrible writing.
Tammy
October 24th, 2012 11:01 AM
What is up with Jax always wearing white tennis shoes. I've been riding for years and know a lot of bikers and they all wear boots. It drives me crazy when I watch the show and he has those white shoes on.
Donna
October 24th, 2012 10:46 AM
I think Gemma snaps and tells Jax that she was part of the killing of his father and that is why she is so out of control..
Kurt will not let anything happen to Able..
Ables been the center to many times...
Wendy will be back now because of this...
Hopefully Tara will not be pissed at Jax for letting Gemma have the kids..
That fighting between Jax and Tara can't start again.. That was played way to much...They need to stay strong together at all cost..
Dafkagirl
October 24th, 2012 9:51 AM
Killing Abel kills plot movement. Jax would be inconsolable and not functional as President of the club since his son is dead, his wife hates him and would leave him over this (she would totally blame Jax for pushing Gemma to babysit). Wendy would be out of the picture (without Abel she has no reason to create friction). This is maybe 10 days since Opie died. That is too much damage too quickly.
On the other hand, injuring his son might build a bond for Jax in Pope and Roosevelt (Pope lost his daughter and Roosevelt his unborn child).
I hope Filthy Phil followed Gemma and will get to the boys quickly.
Maybe Gemma to get help to detox/dry out and put her into Wendy's recovery group.
I find it interesting that the truly injured parties from Season 4 (Clay and Tara) are healing fine but Gemma is the one with the physical beating scars gone but the emotional damage of that situation debilitating her more than anyone. Like Nero said: "stuck between a husband she hates and a s
Neftes
October 24th, 2012 9:29 AM
And...when Abel is in the hospital and Wendy gets word that he's been injured because of a drug-enhanced Gemma - A LOT more hell is going to break loose. And it will rain down all over Jax (and Tara), of course!
Neftes
October 24th, 2012 9:11 AM
Having said that, I believe Jax will climb out of it and finally discover what is truly worth all of the sacrifice - his family. Hopefully, his loved ones will still be among the breathing when he arrives at this realization.
A couple of personal observations -
- The SUV wasn't upside down. Hybrid was clearly visible. A tree fell when struck and a limb went through the window.
- Abel was bleeding of his teddy bear, right? The one that was lying on the bed at the beginning of the episode, maybe?
- Gemma wasn't drunk, but maybe a little high. She was falling asleep at the wheel. She turned up the radio to try and not fall asleep, but dozed anyway. I'm guessing that was a long day - so drunk she couldn't remember the dude, hungover, Unser, joint(s), and then it was clearly late. What's-his-face-Teddy-Bear-member was glaring at her in the car as if he didn't trust her. (I'm guessing they're going to come down on him, too.)
Neftes
October 24th, 2012 9:10 AM
I think Abel is hurt and there will be many angry Tara vs. Gemma interactions at the hospital in the near future. Hospital Administrator will probably continue to whisper "get out of this mess" type things to Tara. With Gemma isolating herself by being irresponsible, Clay at odds, the club's in-fighting, Pope and CIA pressure, an injured child, and a wedge between Tara, Jax will continue to feel like the proverbial spinning top.
I think this season will further show how the head of the table isolates you from the "you" that you wanted to be. This season showed us Jax's introspective, hopes-for-the-future ways in the beginning. Quickly, his life was irrevocably changed with the death of his best friend. All of these other events are simply going to test and strain those ideals that Jax wants to maintain. We have to see him enter this dark, alone place to be able to believe that all of these choices have appropriate consequences.
Having said that, I believe Jax will climb
JonJon
October 24th, 2012 9:10 AM
Wow. Next week's episode is title "Ablation". Look what the definion of that word is:
ab·la·tion-noun
1. the removal, especially of organs, abnormal growths, or harmful substances, from the body by mechanical means, as by surgery.
2. the reduction in volume of glacial ice, snow, or névé by the combined processes of melting, evaporation, and calving. Compare alimentation
3. Aerospace . erosion of the protective outer surface (ablator) of a spacecraft or missile due to the aerodynamic heating caused by travel at hypersonic speed during reentry through the atmosphere.
I hope Able isn't dead, but I see what CPC is saying. @ Bret, I didn't get that part either (crash). She wasn't drinking just smoking. Maybe she was still hung over from the night before. Still a strech though. The ways things are looking Eli is going to give up Juicy for the last Nomad. He promised he wouldn't, but I guess when you lose a loved one, all bets are off. I still don't think Pope is behind the "black" attack. I think someone is trying to undermine him the same way Clay is trying to undermine Jax. Things are getting interesting.
I Don't think Abel is Dead, that would be really low of Sutter almost disrespectful. First Opie,then Eli's wife (who was pregnant) and now a child that had such a little role it was actually lovable... I think he will be hurt cause the truck that Gemma nearly hit saw where she went down, so atleast help should be on the way. As for Pope and the niners, thats all one big shit pile but I think Pope will get whats coming to him. 5mil insurance plan or not, he is fucking with the wrong people. Pope has city pull, SOA has international pull...
Z
October 24th, 2012 6:34 AM
Able will probably be badly injured, i know Sutter wants to build up Jax's character to go off with a bang but i'm not sure he would kill off Able (i hope not). Able does blink at the end but he is only a small child acting... that said CPC makes a good point with what Jax and Gemma just spoke about.
Fudgefase
October 24th, 2012 5:46 AM
Trouble is you know that whatever happens, Gemma is going to be right there, at the heart of things. She's the writer's WIFE for goodness sake. So broken Gemma is going to trundle on and on, irrespective. You know what doesn't actually make any sense? The 'respect' for Clay. Clay is old and broken; he would simply not be able to command anyone from his position of both physical and club weakness anymore. The nomads allowing him some authority over them is ridiculous. They'd override him and work with the boss, not the has-been.
Bret
October 24th, 2012 12:36 AM
Why did I Gemma crash? She was only high (smoking at the crime scene with cops). Her swerving and crashing was unrealistic in every way. At the least she would have let someone drive her since Gemma knows she does have any more stikes left. Stupid ending. Disappointed.
SnakeTheCritic Rank: Guest Star
October 24th, 2012 12:24 AM
★★★☆☆TV
No real surprise's, Clay setting up the Nomads was very predictable. This episode was saved by the last scenes. No way Able dies but Gemma just signed her fate over to Tara.
Niners, I think the same thing is going on there; someone undermining the new command. The new leader would never ever go against Pope.
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lillyanna
October 24th, 2012 12:20 AM
Okay so Jax told Gemma that they will get pass all that has happened and that he loved her. He also said the stuff with Tara will work out too. But lets face it if Able is DEAD or even just HURT the fact that Gemma put them in danger at all pretty much says that both Jax and Tara are done with her. Does anyone think that Jax or Tara would let her hurt their children and get away with it? Jax might not kill her but Tara might, I mean come on Gemma near or did kill one of if not both kids. I think Gemma has offically lost her family now. When before she was just kind of in a time out while she healed up and processed what happen.
Gemma: How's the ass? Lyla: How's it look? Gemma: Like a snack.
October 24th, 2012 3:00 PM
Ugh, the ending with the blood was too hard to watch given my kids are about Abel's age. I have to agree that somehow Wendy gets a hold of the incident to use in getting / trying to get custody.
October 24th, 2012 2:56 PM
@Ghost Rider: about the white shoes - apparently those white kicks are NorCal style. Charlie Hunnam said in an interview he based Jax's look off of a young real life bike-gang member that he knows so apparently that's where those shoes come from.
And also, I don't think Gemma had a heart attack, if that was the case we wouldn't have seen her smoking pot with Wayne the scene before. She probably knew very well that she was in no condition to drive but she just jumps at those chances that Jax gives her, she wants her family back so when Jax reaches out to her, she's not gonna say "sorry honey but I'm high so I can't drive, you're on your own." The relationship is too fragile for that. And yeah, she coulda told Filthy Phil to drive, but... I mean come on. It's Gemma we're talking about. She choked on her pride there.
Rank: Extra
October 24th, 2012 2:30 PM
Otto's gonna write whatever he wants to write, as long as "it's something that's never been done before". We don't get a vote. There's two seasons left and the story is gonna go the way it goes. This show is better than almost everything else out there imo.
I'm just grateful that, at least it seems so for the time being, that they've stopped chopping up the last scene of recent episodes with some crappy song mixed in with dialog (thank God for closed caption with the mute button.
The song during the chase scene with Nero getting the Caddy was pretty bad, whatever the heck it was suppose to be, as was the song at the end of Ope's funeral...but things are much better than they were so I can't complain :)
Knock on wood!
October 24th, 2012 2:09 PM
Jax's first thought on hearing about the SUV accident is that it's tied to the drive-by attack against him, especially if the trucker happens to be black or brown; remember Gemma was knocked unconscious. He will lash out against the Niners and Pope if Abel and/or Gemma are seriously hurt or killed. Gemma may encourage those thoughts to get out of trouble especially if she blabs the truth to Clay; he'll use her to help put together a convenient lie for the both of them.
October 24th, 2012 1:50 PM
One...there should be no way that the niners firing a machine gun while Jax was riding, that they missed, it showed Jax limping up the hill, was it from the fall or a bullet? Two...maybe Gemma had another heart attack (has a bad heart) and that is why she passed out. Three...Clay is one of the main characters, I think he will be around for a long time...I also agree with the above comments ( as a long time rider ) " WHAT'S WITH THE WHITE RUNNING SHOES "
October 24th, 2012 1:48 PM
I swear my heart almost stopped when Gemma crashed that car. This is gonna set off a custody trial that Wendy's most likely gonna win. Gemma what the hell were you thinking... I got SO MAD at her when she started dozing off in the car, that's two little kids in there! I can't believe that actually happened. That was dark.
I'm also starting to get a little scared for Juice, what with him being so "close" with Clay, that relationship can't end well.
But for some reason, even though everybody else wants him dead, the more vicious and twisted Clay gets, the more I love him as a character. This stone-cold devil kind of person for some reason always fascinates me.
October 24th, 2012 1:02 PM
Tammy, Jax is always wearing those white shoes because it's the NorCal style. And the fictional town of Charming is in northern California after all. Jax is one of the younger members of SAMCRO, & I think it's another way for us to see him express himself. I know this because my friend lives in NorCal & the first time we watched together she pointed out shoes (me being from Phoenix I didn't understand why he'd wear white shoes either), she said "look at those white kicks!! That is NorCal style!"
October 24th, 2012 12:48 PM
There is no way that Kurt Sutter will "kill off Abel". Bringing Wendy back into the picture on a more regular basis would be a really good scenario, testing Jax and Tara's newly-wedded vows. Loved seeing Joel McHale as a guest star. Can't wait to see Pope's reaction when he finds out what went down...
October 24th, 2012 12:37 PM
Unser should just kill Clay before he gets killed...Clay should have been finished off last season. Juice is starting to see that everything Clay says is a lie and that it will only benefit Clay, Juice needs to go to Jax.
Poor Able, blood dripping from his shoe onto the stuffed dinosaur.....I think he's dead, if he is.....Tara is going to kill Gemma! Jax is going to end up losing it and I don't think Tara and him will stay together, I see Tara taking off with the baby to wherever it was she was going to interview when her hand got screwed up. I was disappointed that Opie died.
October 24th, 2012 12:14 PM
i'm still one of those people who thinks clay should've died last season. i'm just not buying it anymore. it's the same stuff over and over. when exactly is this infamous deal with the irish going to happen, so that they can finally get rid of clay??
October 24th, 2012 12:13 PM
Am I the only person that thinks the car wreck at the end was the most contrived scenario ever in TV? Why is it necessary to have something that dramatic happen in the wake of Opie's death? Terrible writing.
October 24th, 2012 11:01 AM
What is up with Jax always wearing white tennis shoes. I've been riding for years and know a lot of bikers and they all wear boots. It drives me crazy when I watch the show and he has those white shoes on.
October 24th, 2012 10:46 AM
I think Gemma snaps and tells Jax that she was part of the killing of his father and that is why she is so out of control..
Kurt will not let anything happen to Able..
Ables been the center to many times...
Wendy will be back now because of this...
Hopefully Tara will not be pissed at Jax for letting Gemma have the kids..
That fighting between Jax and Tara can't start again.. That was played way to much...They need to stay strong together at all cost..
October 24th, 2012 9:51 AM
Killing Abel kills plot movement. Jax would be inconsolable and not functional as President of the club since his son is dead, his wife hates him and would leave him over this (she would totally blame Jax for pushing Gemma to babysit). Wendy would be out of the picture (without Abel she has no reason to create friction). This is maybe 10 days since Opie died. That is too much damage too quickly.
On the other hand, injuring his son might build a bond for Jax in Pope and Roosevelt (Pope lost his daughter and Roosevelt his unborn child).
I hope Filthy Phil followed Gemma and will get to the boys quickly.
Maybe Gemma to get help to detox/dry out and put her into Wendy's recovery group.
I find it interesting that the truly injured parties from Season 4 (Clay and Tara) are healing fine but Gemma is the one with the physical beating scars gone but the emotional damage of that situation debilitating her more than anyone. Like Nero said: "stuck between a husband she hates and a s
October 24th, 2012 9:29 AM
And...when Abel is in the hospital and Wendy gets word that he's been injured because of a drug-enhanced Gemma - A LOT more hell is going to break loose. And it will rain down all over Jax (and Tara), of course!
October 24th, 2012 9:11 AM
Having said that, I believe Jax will climb out of it and finally discover what is truly worth all of the sacrifice - his family. Hopefully, his loved ones will still be among the breathing when he arrives at this realization.
A couple of personal observations -
- The SUV wasn't upside down. Hybrid was clearly visible. A tree fell when struck and a limb went through the window.
- Abel was bleeding of his teddy bear, right? The one that was lying on the bed at the beginning of the episode, maybe?
- Gemma wasn't drunk, but maybe a little high. She was falling asleep at the wheel. She turned up the radio to try and not fall asleep, but dozed anyway. I'm guessing that was a long day - so drunk she couldn't remember the dude, hungover, Unser, joint(s), and then it was clearly late. What's-his-face-Teddy-Bear-member was glaring at her in the car as if he didn't trust her. (I'm guessing they're going to come down on him, too.)
October 24th, 2012 9:10 AM
I think Abel is hurt and there will be many angry Tara vs. Gemma interactions at the hospital in the near future. Hospital Administrator will probably continue to whisper "get out of this mess" type things to Tara. With Gemma isolating herself by being irresponsible, Clay at odds, the club's in-fighting, Pope and CIA pressure, an injured child, and a wedge between Tara, Jax will continue to feel like the proverbial spinning top.
I think this season will further show how the head of the table isolates you from the "you" that you wanted to be. This season showed us Jax's introspective, hopes-for-the-future ways in the beginning. Quickly, his life was irrevocably changed with the death of his best friend. All of these other events are simply going to test and strain those ideals that Jax wants to maintain. We have to see him enter this dark, alone place to be able to believe that all of these choices have appropriate consequences.
Having said that, I believe Jax will climb
October 24th, 2012 9:10 AM
Wow. Next week's episode is title "Ablation". Look what the definion of that word is:
ab·la·tion-noun
1. the removal, especially of organs, abnormal growths, or harmful substances, from the body by mechanical means, as by surgery.
2. the reduction in volume of glacial ice, snow, or névé by the combined processes of melting, evaporation, and calving. Compare alimentation
3. Aerospace . erosion of the protective outer surface (ablator) of a spacecraft or missile due to the aerodynamic heating caused by travel at hypersonic speed during reentry through the atmosphere.
How do y'all think this will play out?
Rank: Extra
October 24th, 2012 8:40 AM
I hope Able isn't dead, but I see what CPC is saying. @ Bret, I didn't get that part either (crash). She wasn't drinking just smoking. Maybe she was still hung over from the night before. Still a strech though. The ways things are looking Eli is going to give up Juicy for the last Nomad. He promised he wouldn't, but I guess when you lose a loved one, all bets are off. I still don't think Pope is behind the "black" attack. I think someone is trying to undermine him the same way Clay is trying to undermine Jax. Things are getting interesting.
Rank: Extra
October 24th, 2012 8:17 AM
I Don't think Abel is Dead, that would be really low of Sutter almost disrespectful. First Opie,then Eli's wife (who was pregnant) and now a child that had such a little role it was actually lovable... I think he will be hurt cause the truck that Gemma nearly hit saw where she went down, so atleast help should be on the way. As for Pope and the niners, thats all one big shit pile but I think Pope will get whats coming to him. 5mil insurance plan or not, he is fucking with the wrong people. Pope has city pull, SOA has international pull...
October 24th, 2012 6:34 AM
Able will probably be badly injured, i know Sutter wants to build up Jax's character to go off with a bang but i'm not sure he would kill off Able (i hope not). Able does blink at the end but he is only a small child acting... that said CPC makes a good point with what Jax and Gemma just spoke about.
October 24th, 2012 5:46 AM
Trouble is you know that whatever happens, Gemma is going to be right there, at the heart of things. She's the writer's WIFE for goodness sake. So broken Gemma is going to trundle on and on, irrespective. You know what doesn't actually make any sense? The 'respect' for Clay. Clay is old and broken; he would simply not be able to command anyone from his position of both physical and club weakness anymore. The nomads allowing him some authority over them is ridiculous. They'd override him and work with the boss, not the has-been.
October 24th, 2012 12:36 AM
Why did I Gemma crash? She was only high (smoking at the crime scene with cops). Her swerving and crashing was unrealistic in every way. At the least she would have let someone drive her since Gemma knows she does have any more stikes left. Stupid ending. Disappointed.
Rank: Guest Star
October 24th, 2012 12:24 AM
★★★☆☆TV
No real surprise's, Clay setting up the Nomads was very predictable. This episode was saved by the last scenes. No way Able dies but Gemma just signed her fate over to Tara.
Niners, I think the same thing is going on there; someone undermining the new command. The new leader would never ever go against Pope.
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October 24th, 2012 12:20 AM
Okay so Jax told Gemma that they will get pass all that has happened and that he loved her. He also said the stuff with Tara will work out too. But lets face it if Able is DEAD or even just HURT the fact that Gemma put them in danger at all pretty much says that both Jax and Tara are done with her. Does anyone think that Jax or Tara would let her hurt their children and get away with it? Jax might not kill her but Tara might, I mean come on Gemma near or did kill one of if not both kids. I think Gemma has offically lost her family now. When before she was just kind of in a time out while she healed up and processed what happen.