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@Deb, I agree. and WOW,, good to know that there are passionate fans of NCIS LA on this site : ) It's a lazy Sunday pm and came back to check on this site....gotta agree with everyone who's watched the episode more than once. I too, re-watched it a week later and came back on this site to say that it really was an awesome episode! The torture scenes were fleeting and not that graphic. It truly was the acting, the sound effects, the filming, the pace that led our imagination to fill in the spaces. As I've said, the imagination has no limitation..my head filled in the spaces and so well that my mind literally went blank when the episode aired. I recommend watching it a second time if you've only watched it once. The kiss the second time around was even better ; )

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I went back through the comments and realized that it was Tanner not Kevin that brought up the Alias dental torture connection. Thanks Tanner. I watched the show, but didn't remember it till I read your comment and my daughter confirmed it.

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I personally think the torture scenes were well done. They were not graphic in any way. I don’t think that people who were not upset by the torture scenes are desensitized to violence. Rather, we understood that there was a purpose. It was supposed to make you uncomfortable and perhaps cringe. It was supposed to make you aware that there are real stakes and real jeopardy for characters you have attachments to. This is not a reality show, but a scripted fictional one that occasionally gives us a chance to think about real consequences. There was a lot going on in this episode, the torture was only a part of it. But that torture will have a huge impact on all the characters and their relationships going forward.

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As far as realism, the torture is probably one of the more realistic parts of the show and the fact that it hasn’t been addressed with the main characters before this actually surprises me (although Dom was kidnapped and tortured behind the scenes in season 1). Undercover agents know they run the risk of torture and death if their cover is blown and they accept it; but this is the first time we get to see it. The shootouts they have where they are outnumbered and outgunned but still manage to blow away half a dozen bad guys and walk away without a scratch isn’t realistic IMO. That violence doesn’t seem to bother anyone because nobody cares about the henchmen; there is no attachment. This is different.

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The tortures used weren’t new either. Jack Bauer was electrocuted repeated in one episode until he went into cardiac arrest, then they had to cut him down and revive him. As Kevin mentioned, the dental torture Deeks suffered had been done on Alias years ago. (My daughter reminded me of this too.) Sydney (a woman) was also an undercover agent (sound familiar). The only reason I can see that anyone had a difficult time with this was the heart wrenching screams made by Eric Christian Olsen. There certainly wasn’t much to see, no blood or gore of any kind. And Sam’s reaction to the electrocution was rather subdued. Maybe that last scene should be watched without sound. It would make a big difference.

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I just got back from a trip and came here to see if the furor over the torture scenes in the finale had died down. Apparently for some it hasn’t. To compare this to 24 makes no sense to me, I watched that show and the torture portrayed on 24 was far worse than this. It was pervasive throughout and the perpetrators were not always the bad guys. Jack Bauer resorted to it on a regular basis to get the answers he needed. And this is worse on other network TV shows today. Some have been mentioned. Others include The Vampire Diaries (in the so called family hour) and Supernatural which target teens, pre-teens and young adults. The torture and violence in these shows make this look like a cake walk.

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David-My mom likes NCIS LA, but she was thoroughly disgusted by the torture scenes in the last episode. She also thought the plot was dumb. She liked the pace of 24. She just didn't like the torture scenes.

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If by goodie girl you mean I didn't do what most people did in High School (drugs,alcohol etc.) than I guess you're right. However, I don't think that I know more than everyone.

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I agree with you about Eric Christian Olsen. He has really shown the depth of what he can really do in this last episode.

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Liv-I would suggest that the last episode doesn't even get to that point. As I stated before, I thought the plot was dumb. Every episode up until this one was good. I did like the kiss between Kensi and Deeks. However, that does beg the question if Deeks will survive, because he has now admitted his feelings for Kensi.




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