It also caught my attention on how Bruno never really decided on who RJ was until later on and made it seem like it was a very fluid situation. a) that goes against what he said earlier where he said he already knew how the story would wrap up years ago b) no wonder there is so many different events that are helter skelter unorganized and seemingly contradictory. If in season 3 Bruno is thinking of making JJ LaRoche RJ, then in season 5 Bob Kirkland and then he wakes up this summer and decides to make it Thomas McCallister, how could RJ's events and the evidence about him not be contradictory? No wonder so much didn't and still doesn't really make that much sense about this storyline and in another interview when Xander who acted as McAllister suggested that he never expected to come back on the show after his first appearance early on makes it seem like Bruno was like----"ah let's see which random character from the first few years I can just get to sign a contract to come back on." No organization or methodology, to Bruno he said it "just felt right". That in itself isn't horrible but when it leads to a show where everything's just out of left field with no explanation and the next week we see completely different things, the methodology behind how RJ was decided has to been questioned.
The one thing I'll say that bothers me is Bruno Heller's attitude towards the details of this show and explaining things and what they mean that have happened in the past .
Check out his answer to the question why they didn't delve into how or why: “One of the things you discover when these figures of great evil are unmasked in real life is…. they tend not to be very interesting…. They tend to be egomaniacal one-track minds,” Heller explains. “As we laid out in the episode, and as Jane himself says, ‘The rest is details’” — the stuff of “great Internet fodder, but not very entertaining for a weekly TV audience. So as much as some people would love to delve into that, it’s not what this show does.”
How can a show not be about explaining the clues it throws? How can you just pile up years and years of things and basically ignoring them. There are small things I get, but there are just so many major unanswered questions and huge gaps but Bruno's approach rather than attempt to answer them is "nah, it's not important, it doesn't matter". Just makes no sense to me and really it's just in a built in lazy excuse and also just a lack of creativity on the writers part to not coming up with good explanations. Of course how McAllister knew the list matters and other important stuff, but to just say "oh well he's captured so it doesn't matter anymore" is bogus, total BS, that doesn't fly with me and to suggest otherwise and say "oh that's not the role of this show to talk about that " is just a built in lazy cop out.
I'll give a more detailed commentary about the episode later but let me say a couple things real quick
1) I think the season 3 finale ending for Red John was about equal in quality had the show decided to end the RJ arc, not better than this, not worse than it.
2) Here is a really good article that describes my problems with the writing the past couple years. Recommend all read, very well written
3) I can live with McCallister being RJ; he was not a guy most of us took seriously as a suspect(nobody after the season 5 finale had him as their top suspect NOBODY). And we got to see him from the very beginning. I can accept McAllister as an RJ.
So that's it, that's really it. 6 years and everything it built up, gone just like that. There were tons and tons of flaws with this episode( it was no where near as well written or structured as other episodes) but I can live with it for two things 1) McAllister was a satisfactory Red John choice. Nobody ever took him seriously as a suspect We never knew anything about him until this year but we all saw him a the very beginning(and the second episode, not the pilot which is a good set up) and got to see some of him this year and see how he can be an innocent looking yet clever figure. 2) The pigeon trick was well done, well orchestrated, it built off information from previous episodes, and you knew Jane saw everything the whole way. Everything. It took that, RJ's greatest superstition to cause him to lose after 6 years. I respect that piece of writing. Overall, there were tons of flaws with this episode, we didn't really get anything answered, but I can live with McAllister being Red John and Jane's deft work to uncover him and that's what matters.
Whatever you or anybody thinks of this series or the episode coming up isn't really the point here; this shows deserves all the ridicule it gets for leaking the biggest episode its fans have been waiting 6 years for with many like me finding out RJ's faith in the most unsuspenseful way possible. What a disgrace. This would never happen for any respectable TV show, it's just pathetic that the writers and producers would let the most important show of the series get leaked. I can't emphasize what an embarrasement this is, especially when you consider the debacle with lettting the promo for the 7th episode loaded with spoilers appear before the 6th episode appeared a couple weeks ago. I honestly cant fathom how something like this happens and it really is a credibility killer; why should I put my faith in these same producers for coming episodes when they let the most important episode in the series get leaked? It really is incredibly unfortunate, diehard fans incredibly invested in this show waited SIX WHOLE YEARS only for Red Johns identity in this episode to be leaked. Just disgraceful, just pathetic.
Can someone tell me how in the world the episode got leaked? I mean seriously, what a disgrace. This past month, what fans have been waiting for 6 years for now has been handedly so horribly. First, a major major episode has to get pushed back a week while at the same time the promo at the end has all the spoilers from that episode that viewers who hadn't seen the sixth episode saw. That's bad enough; now this? Who in the world leaked this episode? More importantly HOW was it leaked? I just can't get over what a disgrace that is? I agree the episode was kind of lame, but that's not the point. Just can't believe the biggest episode of the series, what this series is all about, the big episode we all have waited and EARNED got leaked. So embarrassing for everybody working for the mentalist.
How does the promo possibly suggest that that is Thomas McCallister and not Gale Bertram? I find it fascinating just how much and to what extremes people'd are going to assume there is some huge conspiracy by the writers.
Someone explain to me also how Bertram just went about unharmed in that explosion? there'll probably be some explanation next week but it will still leave alot of unanswered questions.
There's a huge difference between a red herring and Partridge actually being alive and being RJ or that whole explosion being "fake" like others have suggested. People are just looking at this way too superficially, there's way more to this story, the pt of the next episode is to see RJ from RJ's perspective, the method behind the madness, not to go on some crazy goos chase where everyone we thought was dead was alive. If this show really cared about hiding his identity that much they wouldn't have released a list of 7 names before last summer, think people think before you list some wild theory.
Everybody is overthinking this WAY too much, Bertram is Red John, that's it, that's the end of the arch. There's a reason why this show narrowed the list down for us to 7 names last year, why they've constantly been cutting things off. The story here is much more than just who Red John is, there just isn't enough to make that interesting in this show. It's about the methods, his ways, his style, everything that comes along with him. Red John is more than just a person, he's a lifestyle, who he just isn't the end game here. There are no more tricks here(and besides the Mentalist would never pull off something so insane as having another guy on the list be RJ-- not now that's not this shows MO) we know who Red John is, we get to spend a week thinking about what this interaction is going to be like the end game, and what RJ will reveal. That's what the focus should be on, not on some ridiculous conspiracies on how Partridge isn't really dead or that the bomb was a "fake". Think past that people.
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