Yeah just really hope they don't make us wait 2 whole weeks to play the next new episode. IS the show that low on CBS's food chain that they can't play it sometime during the week and have to delay the biggest sequence of the entire show a whole week?
Also was not a smart decision by CBS to hold this episode until next week a) they started last week at 1045 last week and I think ratings were actually better than week before, this one they started at 1059 this week. Not worth putting it off just for 14 min b) ratings will go down now that the show has been leaked next week and your pissing off people who already saw the episode to have to wait 2 weeks now. Red John is being revealed in the 8th episode it was said earlier this week, get to know just in time for thanksgiving now.
Anybody looking for somewhere to watch this week's episode can go to couchtuner, bunch of different links there. That is always a good place to go but I wouldn't be surprised if it gets more regulated and maybe even some links taken down this week since CBS specifically trying to wait until next week to show this while keep ratings so they don't want it getting leaked. As for the episode itself, all i'll say is this, theres a lot to be resolved still, how they tie things up the next 2 episodes will determine how good this episode really was. That's why I don't want to have to wait 2 weeks now to watch the new episode.
and that as crazy as this sounds who RJ is might not end up being the most intriguing part of this storyline. I cant think if they wanted to make the main focus who RJ is they'd just cut the list down for us so neat and tidey especially with this idea of them further reducing hte list of suspects. Finally, I'll add that going through all 5 Bertram's description of questionable was still the best endorsement I had for any one character. I can only see two of these characters being guys the show scripted out years in advance as being RJ: Stiles and Bertram. Like I said before, I just dont think in good conscience any writer could leave Stiles as RJ. So by process of elimination Bertram seems the most plausible, but all this is on very shaky ground.
on the acting list for the classic Red John episode nov 17th which is interesting, you'd think they might try to hide him if he were Red John(unless of course his identity is already revealed by then). Bertram would be a questionable RJ at a variety of levels, calls into question an entire show when the CBI director all the main characters work for was RJ the whole time. Questionable. That of course only leaves Stiles and there is alot of basic logic that points towards him. But this comes down to how much faith do you have in the writers, making Stiles RJ is an all time copout. Something people could see coming for years but always assumed the show wouldn't go for because of its simplicity. Not a good look to end the arc. Call it faith in humanity but I just can't see the show doing that. With all this said though, I still think the reason they cut down RJ's identity to a few names is because finding out who he is is only a part of the battle, there's alot more to this story and alot of that might end up more intriguing.
maybe him being an antagonist to Jane was part of his responsibility, but again what exactly did it do. Partridge just wasn't relevant enough to really make an impact on Jane. This is the most unconvinced I've been of RJ's identity in a while, what I can say is I don't its Reede Smith(red herring, also has a clear role within the FBI and I dont think it goes beyond that). I think McAllister was only brought back because they could get him to a contract and not other random characters(and step in the writers mind, if you plan out this out years in advance are you really going to make RJ a guy who showed up once in season 1 as a pervert who CBI bullied, that's just too much of a stretch for this show and its writers) and I'm skeptical that if they are pushing Ray Haffner hard in this episode as a suspect they'll come back only 3 weeks later to reveal he was Red John. Doesn't sound like something a writer would do. That leaves two: Bertram and Stiles. Bertram appears on the acting list for the Red John episode which I find interesting(you would think they would try to hide RJ unless he's revealed before then)
So is that tyger tyger quote by Partridge supposed to be confirmation he's a mole? That he's working for tyger tyger? Of course we don't know anything about this organization but then are we assuming that he was a mole for Red john if he was part of this organization? If this is all based on that one two word phrase he gave at the end, that's a bit much but then again season 3 changed entirely on those same words Todd Johnson gave. Do we still have any idea as to why Partridge was killed first, maybe just get rid of the insignificant first? Also why in gods name is Red John trying to kill people on this list, isn't that just making Jane's job easier? Never understood that, how does this help RJ for suspects to be eliminated? @anitraward1 made some interesting observations about Partridge, we always saw something sinister about his comments and aura, I just don't know if giving misinfo was deliberately part of his role as an RJ accomplice? Jane easily saw through it all, maybe him being an antagonist of Jane was his responsiblity but I'm also skeptical of that. Quite frankly Partridge was just never powerful enough to ever matter regardless of what he did.
rewriting and focusing the shows plot around the time alloted as opposed to being taken aback and having to come up with some on the spot improvisation. We can say what we want about how this ending is going(and I personally despise introducing this whole tyger tyger organization with 4 episodes left until Red John is caught, just opens up far too many cans of worms and unanswered questions and unrealistic ties/connections in plot) but we're getting an ending that's been hyped for years and planned accordingly. The writers have thought about how they wanted to end this for a long time and get their chance to execute it. That opportunity is something alot of shows(and good ones at that not just shows that get canned after season 1 ) don't often get.
The ratings game unfortunately is why this season is more likely to be this show's last season than not. And the writers know this also, Bruno hinted after season 4 he had "2 or so seasons to wrap this up" and there's no question the rapid increase in speed of plot for Red John is due to trying to fit everything the show wanted to. But like I said earlier if that's how it ends up being it makes some sense and it's good to see the writers adapting for that and not getting caught off guard. If we can get what we want, a good Red John ending, an idea of Post Jane life and state of how he is, some future CBI drama, and closure to all the main characters and their life direction this year(which is easily doable) then that's all we can really ask for the show and that's what all the fans should focus on, not this idea that "oh there's only 18 episodes left what can i do". Focus on now and focus on what you have, we're likely going to get the gift of a show knowing its time is up soon and responding accordingly. Many shows don't get that luxury.
Ok so question here, do we know how many episodes we are getting this year? A commenter posted earlier a writer said they were signed on for 22 but I keep hearing this rumor of 13 from multiple places. So what is it? Because if it is 13 then @huisclothes conclusion makes total sense, have to cover all your tracts in case you only have 13 episodes while still showing post RJ life for Jane. The writers have moved this RJ arch so slowly for 5 years I tend to suspect they know there really isn't much to be had after the storyline is over. But if it is 22 episodes, then that is ALOT to cover for post RJ life. Also, any truth to the rumor that Van Pelt and Rigsby leave due to RJ circumstances? To answer my own question from above, I tend to believe the 22 because a) if that writer tweeted it, it's probably true b) the show has talked about introducing new characters that would have a major role. Hard to do that in 5 episodes or so.
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