Freddie Lounds is alive...I'm so glad I was right LOL. Sorry Nick! Even after I read that interview, I had a feeling that Fuller was trolling us to keep the ruse going. There were a lot of clues in the show that showed us how self-aware Will was. His knowledge of who he was is what clued him in to his set-up, and I believed that Will knew that he wasn't a killer and that he wouldn't become one. Margot is probably the most tragic character on the show. Her forced abortion - even though we didn't see it - was one of the hardest things I've had to watch on that show. I loved the scene where Hannibal actually shows some remorse. He truly does seem to be courting Will, and continues to have that warped sense of friendship towards him. So much so that he puts a piece of their "adopted" daughter in an effigy. (How long does Hannibal keep body parts around, anyway?). Am I the only one that found Alana super annoying this episode?
This is a great interview - Thanks, Christine! I'm calling either Camelot or Agrabah. Leaning more towards Camelot though.
LOL...no, it's understandably (or deliberately) confusing. The old episodes are still on my PVR so I went back and watched the relevant scenes: - When Slade kills Moira, he tells Oliver, "One more person has to die." - However, when he was talking to Blood, he said his promise was to take "everyone and everything Oliver loves away from him. He loves this city." - When Blood was talking to Oliver, I believe he made an inference, because Slade never told Blood out loud that he was going to kill "whoever you love the most." Slade spoke only of Starling City. So Slade could have someone else in mind, or he - and everyone else - could have anthropomorphized Starling CIty. I think it's the latter. Also, I don't want anyone else to die! I think Rochev is gonna end up killing Slade That "Who's Shado" line - methinks she's getting the crazy Mirakuru obsession with Slade...
Maybe I misunderstood - but wasn't Slade basically saying that the death in question was Starling City? My impression was that by reducing Starling City to a graveyard, Slade believes that then he would have truly killed everyone/everything that Oliver loves. I don't think Slade is out to get any of these women (though I'm sure one of them will die), but that Starling City was the last thing he planned on taking from him. Did anyone else get that from the episode? Anyway - excellent episode all around, and this was hands down my favourite appearance of John Barrowman. - I didn't think that Felicity was going to kiss him - though the director did make a point of zooming in on every single moment of physical contact they had. - I don't think Thea shot Merlyn either. - Are we sure that Starling City isn't going to be at least "part" crater? Last season we thought the Glades wouldn't be destroyed and look what happened...
Two things: 1. Lee Pace is back on my TV?!? Sign me up. 2. I saw the trailer of Chasing Life. As a young adult cancer survivor, by the trailer I can tell you that it's fine if you want an inaccurate, romanticized Hollywood look at cancer, but don't be deceived that it's anything close to reality.
I'm so stoked for this!
Nick, you'll have to direct us, please, to that interview where Fuller says that Lounds is dead - because I am not convinced in the slightest that she is. For two reasons: 1 - Freddie (or Freddy) Lounds is an extremely pivotal character in the "Red Dragon" novel, even more so than Chilton and Katz in the Harris novels (and Fuller's already killed those two off). Unless he's changing absolutely everything, Lounds isn't dead. I find it hard to believe that Fuller would kill Lounds now, given his desire to put Red Dragon to screen and the epically visual scenes that Freddy Lounds has in the novel. 2. I may turn out to be wrong, but I still think that this is all one very long con by Will Graham (and likely Jack Crawford). A few episodes ago, the fishing conversation between Jack and Will alluded to the notion that Will is using himself as bait for Jack to catch Lecter, and Jack approving. I hold firmly to the belief that this is all carefully orchestrated. I think that we're seeing what Hannibal sees, and we're only allowed that point of view. Hannibal needs to see Will as the killer he's unleashed, as his counterpart, and that's what we're seeing - down to the last image of their two faces merged. Will had to drag Freddie back in - he knew that if he allowed Freddie to go, she would either blow the whole con with her big mouth, or she would end up getting killed by Lecter (who was waiting at her hotel with a plastic suit).
I both agree and disagree with you - if that's even possible on these here internets. I've read the comments and I've seen how personal this is for you, and I totally respect that. I can't really argue with empathy :-) I agree that it wasn't a great move on Oliver's part to hide. However, the motivation for his previous self-exile was very, very different, even though the result was the same. The first time he ran, he was feeling his limitations as a hero; his best friend died because he wasn't able to stop the second device (which he didn't know about). It was failure and self-doubt. This time, however, there's two things. For one, it's pure, unadulterated guilt and despair - which is what Slade was going for. Oliver's decisions - his Sophie's choice, his choice to not cure Slade, his choice not to tell his family about Slade - those decisions have cost him and his loved ones everything. The loss of his company and fortune, the loss of his sister's trust, the safety of his friends, the impending destruction of his beloved city...and the straw that broke the Arrow's back, the death of his mother. All because of him. The onslaught has been CONSTANT, and that's not the kind of $h!+ you can just shake off. Hell, if we as viewers need a break from the intensity of this storyline, imagine Oliver as the centre and cause of all of it. Two: Oliver didn't just go off to hide, but to come to terms with the decision to die. He was convinced that his death was the only thing that would stop this - and he needed time and space to be at peace with that decision. Oliver is still learning to be a hero, and the decision he made to sacrifice his life to save what's left of everyone's was heroic, even though it came at a time when it seems he'd have served better by being present for his loved ones. Was hiding a bad idea. Absolutely. Do I blame him for hiding? Not in the least.
I don't think "everyone" in the panel is saying that, and that's certainly not what I was trying to say. Perhaps I didn't word my thoughts properly. Last week we were asked if we thought she should go to DC, this week we were asked if she was in love. Separate questions, but there's no reason why her decision can't be contributed to by both her sense of independence AND her feelings for Pike. I think her hesitation is due to both. By no means was I trying to imply that her "not" being in love was the ONLY reason she was still in town.
I've been thinking about the ending of this episode - I'm willing to bet that Jack Crawford is in on this. I think he knows that Will killed that guy, and that this is part of the setup. Will is playing Hannibal, getting him to show himself and slip up. I don't think Will is so far lost to his own self that he would kill a guy and do what he's doing in the previews.
© 2015 TV Fanatic
TV Fanatic Plus
© 2015 TV Fanatic