They haven't failed us previous 3.5 seasons they aren't gonna fail us now
Talk for yourself.
Ever since Masquerade, this show pretty much did almost nothing else but wrong decisions, writing inconsistencies, plot holes and bad quality writing. This season it all trippled in those things, taking away anything that was good.
Overall fans you have to be honest with this seaon and realize that there's been no real progression in the SL. Your evil Villain hasnt caused the chaos we've been hoping for with his hybrid army. Which has been rendered useless. We are going in circles with SLs which is kill originals & Stefan learning to control is blood hunger.
THIS SO MUCH. This filler season can be defined by two words: Disappointing and misogynistic.
Also yes, people, we are allowed TO NOT like the show and criticize it for its mistakes. It does not make us less of "fans", but you know what it makes us NOT BE? Blind fangirls who accept everything the writers throw at them no matter what that is.
She didn't ask to be a doppleganger,
show never explored her feelings about ANY of that thing. To the point that Elena comes off as sociopath in S1 and S2. she even tried to get herself on a suicide mission to save everyone else
Which was:
1. Such a mary sue moment.
2. had no character build up.
3. Did not provide any character development nor conflict with other characters.
the show has already addressed many times how her existence has been a threat to her friends and family - Elena said that as much, it's again not the fault of the writers you were listening to the sound of your own head and not the dialog.
Character statements =/= Charcter conflict or character development.
They also stated that Elena is so awesome, pure and caring and used to be fun. We have yet to see anything of any of that in Elena.
Show missed huge character development opportunity and Elena's personality, character development and value to the show remains at ZERO.
People whine and complain about magic being done too much yet when they explore the problems with the ring, you call it filler when before you'd be whining about how much the ring was plot-point. A
And you know why?
1. Its TWO SEASONS TOO LATE.
2. It has been executed in very contrived and rushed manner.
3. Its utterly boring and trainwrecky.
4. Danger to alaric does NOT feel tangible, because, lol, death means nothing in this show.
The TV never said it would follow the books, so it's your own damn fault for having expectations.
That would not be a problem if plot retained consistency and integrity needed to enjoy it. Also when character is introduced and writers manage to completely and utterly mess up with making that character, one can't help but compare to other versions. That does not change the fact that Melissa and Sage are VERRRY badly written.
Overall this season has been SERIOUSLY mediocre, even worse than the last set of S2 episodes where we had to put up with incredibly horribly written Sacrifice storyline and Elena Swan Gilbert..
Season Three So far is basically a headless chicken. Running around without any purpose, nor direction, nor thought, throwing all the random stuff it can at us, disregarding character development and expecting the show's viewers to live and LIKE dozens of random romantic pairings, instead of character and plot coherence and consistency, which the show locked up somewhere around Masquerade with Katherine and forgot to let out...
Don't let me even start on the ridiculousness that was Bonnie forgiving Elena out of nowhere, without the show exploring how much Elena is hurting her friends NOR even trying to create a character conflict for Elena...
Nor how much of a plot device Abby ended up being, giving nothing to Bonnie's character development. What did we learn? YAY Bonnie has a mother, everyone!......and?...where's the character development for her? Instead they spend most of time offscreen and once her plot device purpose ends Abby leaves.
ughh this episode was such a misogynist mess - starting with sage and going through how it used every female character there.
Ring plot is 2 seasons too late, trainwrecky and filler-ish. Not caring. Its obvious which book story they want, but that does not change how utterly unimpresing, rushed and weak the storyline is.
Also Bonnie forgiving Elena and SHOW NOT EVEN EXPLORING THE THEME OF HOW ELENA HAS BEEN HURTING PEOPLE AROUND HER plain infuriated me. Damn Mary Sue Elena Swan, whoever is responsible for writing your character should have been fired way back in s1...now you are no better than bella.
- Abby came as plot device and left after her plotdevice role ended, BRINGING NOTHING NEW TO BONNIE'S CHARACTER...what was the point of her being there then?
- Overall entire episode YET AGAIN brought nothing new to the table. Another filler episode? YOUBETCHA...
- Did not expect them to ruin Sage this much. Oh god so much sexism and misogyny there...
- Melissa(refusing to call her meredith since she is nothing like meredith) is still uselessly boring and bland.
- Alaric plotline smells of filler and boredom. Its obvious which plotline of the books they are trying to bring through this but Its just way too trainwrecky in its execution for me to care.
Let's face it, current doctor is bland. The writing is not as good as it used to be and only Karen Gilan's Amy Pond is holding the show together. She gets written off while this doctor stays and I am off from this show.
Did Regina murder Kathryn? Or is the heart in the box just a decoy to further set up Mary Margaret while Kathryn is possibly being kept somewhere?
Did she tear her heart out? Sure.
Murder her? doubt it.
I Guess there's a very confused a bit rugged Kathryn, with a hole in her chest, tied up in some basement owned by Regina.
Why do you think Rumplestiltskin bottled true love?
Either to somehow alter Emma before she is born to make her the curse-bane she is OR to create the curse itself.
What are you thoughts on Red's character?
One of my most favorite characters alongside Snow White. Badass enough and frail enough at the same time.
Speaking of characters, what's going on with David? He had flashes of his past life, and is now doubting Mary Margaret. Will he begin redeeming himself anytime soon?
Either one or both of them will most likely have at least partial memories of fairy tale land by the end of season.
August shared some new information with Henry this week: he knows about Fairy tale land. Any new theories on who he is?
Considering writers flat out denied him being book author or pinochio, I guess either Rumple's son or someone we have yet to meet, possibly connected to Season Two plot.
Did Regina murder Kathryn? Or is the heart in the box just a decoy to further set up Mary Margaret while Kathryn is possibly being kept somewhere?
Did she tear her heart out? Sure.
Murder her? doubt it.
I Guess there's a very confused Kathryn with a hole in her chest tied somewhere in Regina's basement.
Why do you think Rumplestiltskin bottled true love?
Either to somehow modify or affect Emma before she is born to make her the curse-bane she is supposedly OR to create the curse itself.
Julie Plec is the definition of incompetence both in writing department as prove by the latest two seasons AND in PR department considering the debacle of her blowing up at her fans this week.
Also this pretty much confirms that the show is set in multiverse - its not just fairytale world and earth. Its a set of countless "universes"(for example: wonderland).
This is hands down the best show on tv, alongside revenge :3
Hopefully that means Elena, Steffie and Damon get dead and never return and the show focuses on Caroline moving to los angeles to finish education and being all awesome. :E
Some people are dead in one world but not the other...
Nope. Those who died in Fairy Tale world are dead in ours.
Belle was never dead. Queen outright lied about that.
Charming was near-death as the curse hit, thus waking up in a coma in real world.
Frankly from the cave-in in the mines,I began to wonder on if breaking curse would not mean essentially deconstructing "our" world for the fairy tale world to "emerge"? or maybe both worlds will merge into one or something. I doubt it will be as easy as "and they all get transported back'. With the writing cast like this, its never easy nor simple.
Also, to answer the question "what turned the Queen evil?" Revenge that her husband adored his first wife and their beautiful daughter and she was an afterthought....and the power she felt when she killed him and those that followed!
Thats not just that.
There have been clear indications that Queen lost someone, her true love, who died thanks to something Snow White did, which in a sense puts her into same position as Snow White. Just She no longer had her "charming" to turn her away from the road of revenge.
. And what's interesting is the way they've set this up, I want to see Charming and Snow together, but in no way to I "ship" David and Mary Margaret.
I think thats the whole point of the show.
The storybrooke counterparts slowly "growing the balls" and getting more similar to their fairytale counterparts.
I think that Regina left the key, hoping that Mary Margaret would run thereby making her look all the more guilty.
Its more than likely that its the Mr.Gold who left the key - he was the last person to occupy that cell, after all ;]
Its not exactly FAIR to blame it all on the potion.
This snow we saw this episode was not that different from the Snow White we met in 1x03 - in most of actions she was same as back then, before falling in love (back then she was also going to kill the queen and also had the whole "love does not exist" tirade and snarky attitude). She was in VERY similar situation i guess Queen has found herself in long time ago - having nothing to love, everything she loved being torn away from her.
The thing is, falling in love with Charming, CHANGED her for the better. Before that she literally had nothing to love anymore, with that love however she got a future and we have seen her change through 1x03.
In terms of that, her love for Charming is all that stands in between from Snow White going down the very same road Queen went.
To what era should the show flashback to next?
ENOUGH with flashbacks. TVD excelled in flashbacking in Season one, but by now, they do more BAD than good to the quality of the writing in the show and are used mostly to either retcon stuff or needlessly fill episode up to the full amount of ~40 minutes.
Pretty much all of S3 flashbacks have been plain uninspired and dull.
Show, you are not lost, you are not btvs, you are not angel, you are not once upon a time. Those shows actually have great writers and top-notch quality writing. With TVD I am beginning suspect that there's a whole room full of monkeys with typewriters writing episode plots now.
By now TVD feels like a 14 year old child trying to replicate S.Dali's paintings. Grats for great wishes for the heights, but you just don't have the needed skill in writing.
What was your favorite scene from the episode?
Fourth episode in row, no scene stood out. A worrying sign.
What did you think of the Alaric twist?
I am surprised that someone actually thought it was "unpredictable" they have been quite ham-handed on pointing to Alaric through the season and generally its just a pointless twist in order to FINALLY(FINALLY!) write out the damn plot-armor rings out of the story somehow...two seasons too late.
Sage or Lexi: Which vampire from the Salvatore brothers' past would you rather... hang out with?
Lexi hands down. Sage, just like Melissa(refusing to call her meredith still, because she is NOT), was yet another uninspired cardboard-ish prop introduced into story. Ultimately a VERY pointless role.
More surprising development: That girl's head falling off in 1912, Meredith actually being on the side of good, or Matt playing a helpful role this week?
Neither. First two were pretty much, well, obvious and the third I outright disagree with.
Neither Elena nor Matt were "helpful". Strutting around filling time in episode doing nothing hardly counts as helpful. Sorry show, you can't make me like those two without actually spending time to make them into PEOPLE and not props.
To what era should the show flashback to next?
ENOUGH with flashbacks. The show excelled in them in season one, but by now the flashbacks to far more worse than good to the quality of writing and are plain uninspired and pointless.
Comments by Invested In Your Future (Page 25)
The Vampire Diaries Review: Burning Bridges
Talk for yourself.
Ever since Masquerade, this show pretty much did almost nothing else but wrong decisions, writing inconsistencies, plot holes and bad quality writing. This season it all trippled in those things, taking away anything that was good.
The Vampire Diaries Review: Burning Bridges
THIS SO MUCH. This filler season can be defined by two words: Disappointing and misogynistic.
Also yes, people, we are allowed TO NOT like the show and criticize it for its mistakes. It does not make us less of "fans", but you know what it makes us NOT BE? Blind fangirls who accept everything the writers throw at them no matter what that is.
The Vampire Diaries Breaks on Through: What Did You Think?
show never explored her feelings about ANY of that thing. To the point that Elena comes off as sociopath in S1 and S2.
she even tried to get herself on a suicide mission to save everyone else
Which was:
1. Such a mary sue moment.
2. had no character build up.
3. Did not provide any character development nor conflict with other characters.
The Vampire Diaries Breaks on Through: What Did You Think?
Character statements =/= Charcter conflict or character development.
They also stated that Elena is so awesome, pure and caring and used to be fun. We have yet to see anything of any of that in Elena.
Show missed huge character development opportunity and Elena's personality, character development and value to the show remains at ZERO.
The Vampire Diaries Breaks on Through: What Did You Think?
And you know why?
1. Its TWO SEASONS TOO LATE.
2. It has been executed in very contrived and rushed manner.
3. Its utterly boring and trainwrecky.
4. Danger to alaric does NOT feel tangible, because, lol, death means nothing in this show.
The Vampire Diaries Breaks on Through: What Did You Think?
That would not be a problem if plot retained consistency and integrity needed to enjoy it. Also when character is introduced and writers manage to completely and utterly mess up with making that character, one can't help but compare to other versions. That does not change the fact that Melissa and Sage are VERRRY badly written.
The Vampire Diaries Review: Burning Bridges
Season Three So far is basically a headless chicken. Running around without any purpose, nor direction, nor thought, throwing all the random stuff it can at us, disregarding character development and expecting the show's viewers to live and LIKE dozens of random romantic pairings, instead of character and plot coherence and consistency, which the show locked up somewhere around Masquerade with Katherine and forgot to let out...
The Vampire Diaries Review: Burning Bridges
Nor how much of a plot device Abby ended up being, giving nothing to Bonnie's character development. What did we learn? YAY Bonnie has a mother, everyone!......and?...where's the character development for her? Instead they spend most of time offscreen and once her plot device purpose ends Abby leaves.
The Vampire Diaries Review: Burning Bridges
Ring plot is 2 seasons too late, trainwrecky and filler-ish. Not caring. Its obvious which book story they want, but that does not change how utterly unimpresing, rushed and weak the storyline is.
The Vampire Diaries Breaks on Through: What Did You Think?
The Vampire Diaries Breaks on Through: What Did You Think?
- Overall entire episode YET AGAIN brought nothing new to the table. Another filler episode? YOUBETCHA...
The Vampire Diaries Breaks on Through: What Did You Think?
- Melissa(refusing to call her meredith since she is nothing like meredith) is still uselessly boring and bland.
- Alaric plotline smells of filler and boredom. Its obvious which plotline of the books they are trying to bring through this but Its just way too trainwrecky in its execution for me to care.
Jenna-Louise Coleman Cast as New Doctor Who Companion
Let's face it, current doctor is bland. The writing is not as good as it used to be and only Karen Gilan's Amy Pond is holding the show together. She gets written off while this doctor stays and I am off from this show.
Once Upon a Time Round Table: "Heart of Darkness"
Did she tear her heart out? Sure.
Murder her? doubt it.
I Guess there's a very confused a bit rugged Kathryn, with a hole in her chest, tied up in some basement owned by Regina.
Why do you think Rumplestiltskin bottled true love?
Either to somehow alter Emma before she is born to make her the curse-bane she is OR to create the curse itself.
Once Upon a Time Round Table: "Heart of Darkness"
One of my most favorite characters alongside Snow White. Badass enough and frail enough at the same time.
Speaking of characters, what's going on with David? He had flashes of his past life, and is now doubting Mary Margaret. Will he begin redeeming himself anytime soon?
Either one or both of them will most likely have at least partial memories of fairy tale land by the end of season.
August shared some new information with Henry this week: he knows about Fairy tale land. Any new theories on who he is?
Considering writers flat out denied him being book author or pinochio, I guess either Rumple's son or someone we have yet to meet, possibly connected to Season Two plot.
Did Regina murder Kathryn? Or is the heart in the box just a decoy to further set up Mary Margaret while Kathryn is possibly being kept somewhere?
Did she tear her heart out? Sure.
Murder her? doubt it.
I Guess there's a very confused Kathryn with a hole in her chest tied somewhere in Regina's basement.
Why do you think Rumplestiltskin bottled true love?
Either to somehow modify or affect Emma before she is born to make her the curse-bane she is supposedly OR to create the curse itself.
Julie Plec Previews the Return of Sage, The Condition of Alaric
Once Upon a Time Sneak Preview: Welcome to Wonderland
Also this pretty much confirms that the show is set in multiverse - its not just fairytale world and earth. Its a set of countless "universes"(for example: wonderland).
This is hands down the best show on tv, alongside revenge :3
The Vampire Diaries Season 3 Finale to Be Titled...
hey...one can dream...
Once Upon a Time Review: Losing Faith
Nope. Those who died in Fairy Tale world are dead in ours.
Belle was never dead. Queen outright lied about that.
Charming was near-death as the curse hit, thus waking up in a coma in real world.
Frankly from the cave-in in the mines,I began to wonder on if breaking curse would not mean essentially deconstructing "our" world for the fairy tale world to "emerge"? or maybe both worlds will merge into one or something. I doubt it will be as easy as "and they all get transported back'. With the writing cast like this, its never easy nor simple.
Once Upon a Time Review: Losing Faith
Thats not just that.
There have been clear indications that Queen lost someone, her true love, who died thanks to something Snow White did, which in a sense puts her into same position as Snow White. Just She no longer had her "charming" to turn her away from the road of revenge.
Once Upon a Time Review: Losing Faith
I think thats the whole point of the show.
The storybrooke counterparts slowly "growing the balls" and getting more similar to their fairytale counterparts.
Once Upon a Time Review: Losing Faith
Its more than likely that its the Mr.Gold who left the key - he was the last person to occupy that cell, after all ;]
Once Upon a Time Review: Losing Faith
This snow we saw this episode was not that different from the Snow White we met in 1x03 - in most of actions she was same as back then, before falling in love (back then she was also going to kill the queen and also had the whole "love does not exist" tirade and snarky attitude). She was in VERY similar situation i guess Queen has found herself in long time ago - having nothing to love, everything she loved being torn away from her.
The thing is, falling in love with Charming, CHANGED her for the better. Before that she literally had nothing to love anymore, with that love however she got a future and we have seen her change through 1x03.
In terms of that, her love for Charming is all that stands in between from Snow White going down the very same road Queen went.
The Vampire Diaries Round Table: "1912"
ENOUGH with flashbacks. TVD excelled in flashbacking in Season one, but by now, they do more BAD than good to the quality of the writing in the show and are used mostly to either retcon stuff or needlessly fill episode up to the full amount of ~40 minutes.
Pretty much all of S3 flashbacks have been plain uninspired and dull.
Show, you are not lost, you are not btvs, you are not angel, you are not once upon a time. Those shows actually have great writers and top-notch quality writing. With TVD I am beginning suspect that there's a whole room full of monkeys with typewriters writing episode plots now.
By now TVD feels like a 14 year old child trying to replicate S.Dali's paintings. Grats for great wishes for the heights, but you just don't have the needed skill in writing.
The Vampire Diaries Round Table: "1912"
Fourth episode in row, no scene stood out. A worrying sign.
What did you think of the Alaric twist?
I am surprised that someone actually thought it was "unpredictable" they have been quite ham-handed on pointing to Alaric through the season and generally its just a pointless twist in order to FINALLY(FINALLY!) write out the damn plot-armor rings out of the story somehow...two seasons too late.
Sage or Lexi: Which vampire from the Salvatore brothers' past would you rather... hang out with?
Lexi hands down. Sage, just like Melissa(refusing to call her meredith still, because she is NOT), was yet another uninspired cardboard-ish prop introduced into story. Ultimately a VERY pointless role.
More surprising development: That girl's head falling off in 1912, Meredith actually being on the side of good, or Matt playing a helpful role this week?
Neither. First two were pretty much, well, obvious and the third I outright disagree with.
Neither Elena nor Matt were "helpful". Strutting around filling time in episode doing nothing hardly counts as helpful. Sorry show, you can't make me like those two without actually spending time to make them into PEOPLE and not props.
To what era should the show flashback to next?
ENOUGH with flashbacks. The show excelled in them in season one, but by now the flashbacks to far more worse than good to the quality of writing and are plain uninspired and pointless.