@semtex: I wouldn't be surprised to see them downplay the physical scars and how they effect Tyrion and instead play up the emotional ones (getting all the blame and none of the recognition for the battle, his father, and the rest that happen in book 3).



- No stumble? I guess Tyrion's height is supposed to account for the sword not going completely through his head, but as I recall, in the books he sort of tumbles backward out of killing range, which makes more sense than the knight just not getting in a good swing when they are standing facing each other. Maybe they tried different scenarios and they just didn't look good on film.


I thought the episode was really good, especially considering what they were attempting to do justice to.

There were a couple things I thought could have been better explained:

- The Hound leaving because of his fear of fire. I think it was clear he was afraid of fire, but the depiction just didn't seem enough for him to turn and run. He could have at least emoted it in some way like, "F*ck the King. I won't burn for you." or some such nonsense, just to clear it up.

- Tyrion's attacker. The kingsguard just aren't as apparent in their armor as in the books and with no dialog re-establishing who he was (just Tyrion's look) I think it was a bit vague.


Yes, it'll be interesting where they leave the season off...

- Will they show if Tyrion survived? How far will they go with his injury? (My guess is not very...maybe an across the cheek scar)

- Will they even get into the Tyrell / Lannister thing?

- Where will they leave off with Robb? Will it be the wedding? I thought originally they would include the battle, his injury, and her helping him (and then "helping" him...) but that never materialized, and that his ending would be him returning to camp with a wife and everyone being "oh crap..."


@confused: I think we were supposed to think Tywin was going after Robb so when he showed up at Kings Landing it was a surprise.

As far as the Kingsguard, I think you're supposed to be asking yourself why, but then again just think about it. He's in the "king's" guard...and it's not like the King likes Tyrion...


@blingerz: He was one of the Kingsguard. I find that their armor isn't as distinctive as described in the books, so it's hard to distinguish them in the show unless you're really looking.


@Elle542: Yeah believe it or not I learned that on a Halloween tour of Philly last year. It wasn't so much a "ghosts and goblins" tour as it was a "crime and STDs" tour. Still scary though... :)


@Elle542: "the grooming habits of these women for that century are furthermore laughable"

In Philadelphia back in Washington's day (1700's) at least some prostitutes used to shave themselves keep crabs, lice, etc to a minimum. Some men of that time didn't like it so the women wore merkins (fake public hair) made of beaver pelts (hence the slang for beaver).

Just saying it's not as far fetched as you might think...


@Barbara Stoner

* The Jaime thing is tough because, while I do agree that it makes him seem more overtly ruthless than the books did, remember he pushed a boy out of a window with the intent of killing him in cold his ruthlessness was pretty much established at the beginning. (Funny how people seem to forget he did that) His killing of the Karstark boy at this point instead instead of the battle awhile ago gives the viewer a sense of his immediate danger via retribution by Lord Karstark.

* I'm not sure we're skipping Riverrun, I think we just may see it delayed until season 3. If Jaime's story is to remain close to what's in the books, Riverrun comes into play later. I could see Riverrun being introduced early in season 3 in the lead up to the Red Wedding.

* I don't feel that Talisa is playing a long con, although I still don't understand why they felt the need to change her identity from the books. Who knows maybe Talisa is a spy, betrays Robb to Tywin, and Jeyne will show up in the last episode to care for him like in the books. ::shrugs::


I think Jorah's scene was supposed to highlight his devotion to the "woman" Danny and not the "Mother of Dragons" Danny. That he sees her as valuable even without those things which arguably make her important (the dragons).

Oh course no one highlighted the other reason to go get they don't end up being weapons for the King of Qarth later on (assuming they would live of course).