Nick
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Wow!  This episode was really really good!  I was gripped the entire time!  Finally the let Parkman out of his cage!

What I liked:  Someone actually died and it made us hate Samuel even more

HRG seemed relevant once again and the story was entertaining

the Parkman - Sylar interactions were great.  

Emma showed up at this mess of a carnival in time for her to help Samuel - seems he had himself shot on purpose

Peter showing up at Matt's was priceless and automatically getting his power.  I love the lost in dreams stuff.  Reminds me of season 1 and 2

 

 

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Justin
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I completely agree. This episode is one of the most suspenseful episodes since the first season, which is something not often achieved in any shows 4th season. It once again reminds me of how much I hate watching shows on a week to week basis. As many twists and huge turns in the show in one episode is so dramatically different from any other in this season that I would think it would draw some of the old intensity that fans got from the first season. Even though I still enjoyed the rest of this season, this episode was definitely needed and I loved it.

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Picazo

Finally A good episode this time I am more than happy to say that Heroes delivered,

I AGREE with you guys this episode was great super intense and that what I love about any show specially this one. However I do feel like this could have been done earlier in the season.

 

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SylarSlash
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i think it was a good episode,not that great though, but good! i wanted to mention something...making sylar lose his abilities is the worst idea the writers have become with!! we are all expecting (well most of us..) peter to get all strong again to face sylar but instead they are taking away sylars powers?!! i think its the worst idea ever if they do that!

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comicbookguy
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I don't know how anyone could expect Peter to get his old powers back, we have been given no indication of such, what so ever.  The writers don't want it they have stated as such multiple times.

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I liked the episode, it seemed to have that level of suspense that kept you watching.  Just a comment, what do guys think about the fact that Sylar had already lost his powers in season 2, now the writers are making a suggestion about that being the answer Sylar is now looking for to solve his problem, surely Sylar would know since technically it wasn't that long ago in his life; and he was still a serial killer without his powers; its as if the writers are forgetting Sylar's own history.  That's what I think.

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smartster1983
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I think the difference now is that Sylar actually feels he might have another purpose now. He wants to be normal because he now knows how it feels to have love and empathy.

All the other times it was taken, so he had no choice in the matter.

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I'm not sure the writers have made it obvious as to the change in Sylar.  My guess is it is Nathan's personality has added to Sylar's and caused a permanent change and not the empathy ability from Lydia.  IF Sylar loses all his powers, then the powers that cause him to feel love would also be gone, causing a revert to his previous self, unless of course it is actually Nathan's personality, which is not an ability but an addition and cannot be removed.  I wonder though if the actual intent is to make Sylar a good hero and have Sylar team up with the other good heroes and introduce a new bad guy next season, if they get another season.

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I would have enjoyed this episode a lot more did it not follow last week's piece of crap. But as it was, Claire drove me absolutely crazy in this episode. Her character has made the metamorphosis complete -- she is a complete and total moron. Instead of sticking around to actually talk to her father she decides to go to the carnival to warn them? Is she, or anybody else for that matter, seriously surprised that it didn't work out for the better? I miss the Claire that actually wanted to make a difference and wanted to fight evil, not warn it that the good guys are coming.

The Samuel we saw in this episode is the Samuel we grew to love as a villain in the first part of the season -- conniving and manipulative. But I couldn't get it out of my head that he was doing it because he was slighted by Vanessa when his character should be so much more than that. This plan of his, whatever it may be, was in motion well before we knew Vanessa ever existed. By this point in the season, I was hoping we'd have a better idea of what he was going to use Claire for, etc. Nice touch to have Lydia killed. I liked her character, but a death of a semi-regular character is always good to keep you guessing. 

I was intrigued by the Sylar storyline. I don't buy him wanting to be normal, but I was certainly interested in what he wanted Parkman to do. I suggested during last season that maybe Arthur Petrelli didn't so much as take people's powers away as he used his telepathy to put a mental block on them accessing those powers. While most of us here have been beating a dead horse as far as Peter getting his powers back, I would be ecstatic to see if this sequence gets Peter back to being a true empath. And on that, I guess we got confirmation that Joseph did indeed have a power and that he was an empath. 

Did Peter wandering those empty city streets remind anybody else about his dream sequence in S1? Yet another parallel from this season to that. 

I love what Parkman did to Sylar mentally, but I have to agree with the critics on  this site that putting him a wall in his basement probably isn't the best plan. Hiro set the bar right with what he did to Adam Monroe at the end of S2. That would have been an excellent treatment for Sylar as well. However, I don't buy Peter wanting to get Sylar's help. How quickly forget that two weeks ago Peter wanted Sylar dead for killing Nathan. This part of the show has the potential to weak very fast, and that concerns me. 

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Yeh i really liked this episode too. I have to admit though that everytime Claire gets on screen I find my self checking to see how long there is left of the episode. She’s a fool, but she serves a purpose as she adds the frustrating element to the show. She does things that are crucial to the stpryline, yet always does it the wrong way.

 

I got the impression that Sylar is honest in what he wants. He truly wants his powers taken as he feels this will allow him to remove the hunger which consumes him. While he was holding Janice he seemed to be fighting himself, his desires and his own impatience.

 

With regard to the catalyst for him wanting this, Im not sure. While he was with Matt (possibly while still holding Janice) he intimated that Matt was partly responsible for his new ‘calling’. He said something along the lines of “After being in your head you showed me …..” but I couldn’t remember all of it.

 

I assume Matt put Sylar in the basement because he was stuck for time and just needed to get rid of him. I guess he figured that his power would be able to cover any cracks or discrepancies. I can’t really see what else Matt could’ve done that would been clean and left no traces…. Also im guessing the writers had no intention of keeping Sylar there for very long.  I liked how Peter just rolled up on his spot though, took his power and didn’t even bother asking too many questions. I can’t see Peter and Sylar switching bodies though. I get the feeling that Peter is trapped in that nightmare too, until they find their way out.

 

The fact that Peter is prepared to work with Sylar kinda shows his transformation from S1. I doubt very much that S1 Peter would’ve had the strength of character to be able to put aside his own feelings (which only 2 weeks ago overwhelmed his every thought) and work side by side with his brother’s killer.I don’t for a second think Peter’s forgiven or trusts Sylar, but he trusts his instincts and would clearly die for his beliefs.

 

HRG is someone who baffles me. Considering he worked for the company for all those years baggin n taggin etc, he’s actually REALLY bad at his job. I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that every single person he’s gone after has escaped either before or just after he’s managed to catch them. It’s actually kinda embarrassing. If my dad was as crap at his job as HRG, I’d probably be a fool like Claire too. She probably didn’t wanna join her dad to deal with the carnival as she knew he’d just fcuk it all up!!

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