Who else feels that the writer's strike is what really messed up this show?
Say what you will about Season 2, but you have to admit that it was really leading somewhere. The show was going in a new, dark direction, and it was following up to a single path. Then the writer's strike occured, and the last episode was rewritten and partly reshot. From here until the very end of Season 3, Volume 4, the show began to meander in confusion without reason, completely thrown off track without any real singular story to tell. The characters, who were thrown off path entirely, all began flip flopping, and great ideas began to be introduced to be driven right into the ground. My point being: the rewrite of the last episode of season 2 ruined the natural direction this show was going in, and we're only now really starting to improve again (I think we're back in season 2 quality, at least... though not up to season 1 standards.) It just really saddens me when I think about it, because what season 2 (as slow as it started) was leading up to seemed really exciting... I wish the staff on the show would have stuck to their guns and just gone on with the "Outbreak" story the next year instead of changing the episode and essentially driving the show into a ditch...Posted 10/15/2009 4:46:03 PM #
I agree the writer strike messed up everything..Posted 10/15/2009 6:18:07 PM #
Yeah, I read up quite a bit on what could have been. Volume 3 was going to be called Exodus, and would have shown them coping with the virus outbreak. Then Villains would have followed Exodus, no doubt much better planned than the Villains that we got to see.
But at least Fugitives and the new series are heading in a decent direction. Give the writers some credit for getting back on their feet.Posted 10/16/2009 9:03:49 AM #
yeah they should have just stayed on track like LOST!!! Season 2 was awesome and was definitely going somewhere until it was stopped abruptly! It kinda reminds me of this season........they should release what was to be the original season 2 on DVD....it would sell really well. Heck announce on NBC that they are rewinding back to season 2 and starting over from there. Then after they heal from the virus they can do this season with the carnivalPosted 10/16/2009 7:38:14 PM #
Season 1 was, quite simply, the best storyline I have ever experienced in my life. It was absolutely perfect. I still get chills thinking about it.
I don't agree with Season 2 being good at all. I absolutely hated Hero's plot of going back in time to find Kensai, Who ended up being Adam Monroe, who didn't mean anything to the story line since Nathan and Peter's father was killed anyway. I thought Silar's story line was a good one (on the plus side) and his working with with the company. I liked the theme of Silar maybe being a protagonist. I also liked Nathan's story following the explosion, with his kids (who by the way have not been mentioned since). One of the things that really bugged me about season 2 was that Catlin was turning out be be a good supporting character, but then, she got lost in time (early in the season) and was never seen again (not to mention hasn't been mentioned since).
The best way for me to discribe season 3 is that the writers had horrible ADD and Alzheimer's. I can't believe they killed off Nathan!
Moving on to season 4, when they killed off Danko, it was an excellent statement, as Danko was a metaphor for the bad writing. The most recent episode was fantastic! Easily the best episode since season 1. The part where Silar walked into the carnival at the end was in the same style of season 1. I hope they keep up the good writing this year!
Let me know what you all think.Posted 10/16/2009 8:48:08 PM #
Paul: I think that you cover everything, that exactly how i feel about it.Posted 10/16/2009 10:33:18 PM #
I also agree that it was season two that messed things up. But, can you blame them? How could they possibly have squeezed an epic storyline into half the time they were originally alotted without screwing it up? D:
It looks to me like they're trying to get rid of season two entirely. XP They've killed off nearly (if not all) every new character from season 2 so far...hah.
And personally, I LIKED the "flip-flopping". Do you -want- flat characters that are completely black-and-white, set in their ways, either good or evil with no inbewteens or other possibilities? I -liked- the conflict not only within the plotline, but within the characters themselves. It shows their growth and the complexity of their situations. Not only that, but it keeps me wondering. Maybe it's just me, but I tend to dislike stories where I can predict every upcoming event. I like having my mind messed with.Posted 10/16/2009 10:59:34 PM #
Gah...no edit button? x.X
I just also wanted to add the fact that I really liked season three and four so far.Posted 10/16/2009 11:02:17 PM #
Paul: the main reason most of those problems were a real issue was because of season 2's premature ending. Hiro's time traveling was going to have a real pay off in the second act of Season 2, while Caitlyn was supposed to be saved (or so the writers have said.) I'm saying that the second half of season 2 was going to be really great, giving us a real pay off to the first half, but because of it's premature ending, it turned to crap.Posted 10/17/2009 12:33:33 AM #
this is rather subjective.....in the eye of the beholder!!
but.....season one? we will never have it as good again, in the same manner! it was fresh, and new and needed.
season two? altogether, all outside influences considered, it was good. the ending was rushed. literally rushed through. but before that it was good. i think we are forgeting the reason it was rushed through as we sugarcoat what might of been.
viewing figures were plummeting, and the producers/makers decided to change direction to pull viewers back. this was coupled with the strike.
personally, i didnt like season 3. it was still ok, but had too many new characters who turned out to be useless (casting? or storylines??), too many plotholes, too many other stuff i cant be arsed to mention, and also peter lost his abilities, and didnt regain them!!
this season? bloody awesome!! its as good as season one without the freshness, and something new elements.
its good so far....hope it stays this way!!!Posted 10/18/2009 6:06:07 PM #
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