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Why doesn't T.R let it go. If he did not call him that to his face how does he know that it was said? Why did he go on Ellen? It happened in October and it was over with. Whatever, T.R. can not act anyway. He should be afraid for his job. Let it go-he apologized.
Seems IW is still upset he didn't get the McDreamy part.
Shonda cast all of the characters on Greys without giving thought to race. She did it based on the best audition for each part. Isaiah was the best and still is. No one can replace him in the role of Burke and no one should have to. He did not call TR a faggot. Did he use this term in the heat of an argument with someone else? Possibly. Does that warrant dismissal? No. In every situation where it is a matter of a verbal dispute you have to consider the context and the intent when passing judgment. Isaiah did not set out to offend TR. This was a poor choice of words uttered in the heat of an argument at a time when emotions were running high and everyone was overworked, tired, and running on empty. This action does not warrant firing.
If and I say if Isaiah is fired I think actor Morris Chestnut would be perfect. I really don't the show would suffer with a new Burke even though Isaiah has done an exceptional job.
If Mr. Washington is accused of saying something derogatory - why isn't he also allowed to defend himself? For his castmate to say that he should not speak in public is as ridiculous as what he is accused of saying - who is she to say who should and should not speak?! I thought we are innocent until proven guilty in this country. What happened to the first ammendment? Does it only apply to what makes us comfortable? I say that we move on to more important issues like feeding those people we step over lying in the streets.
Carol, I am appalled by your comment that Isaiah isn't the only African American man who could be hired on GA. What does that have to do with anything at all? It isn't because he is African American that he should not be fired it is because he has embodied Preston Burke and done so wonderfully well since the beginning. Fans of Burke and Cristina would miss this actor. It has nothing to do with race. It has to do with his skill and acting ability and the character that we love. I don't think anyone else would do it as well and I would hate to see him go over this.
I agree with LA, IW should go. Most companies have zero tolerance when it comes to employees attacking one another. And this means physically or verbally. Either way, once the situation was 'investigated' by Shonda R. or whoever, IW should have been released. You guys act as if IW is the only African American actor who could be on GA. Burke could 'find another job' and be easily written out of the show. I'm surprised IW has lasted this long since the original fight that prompted the 'F' word. IW should have been more careful about what he said, not only the first time, but this last time at the Globes. IW is supposed to be a mature and upstanding man; that is the way he tries to show himself as to other people. It was a mistake what he did, but it was a serious one and it should have serious consequences.
Fire both of them?! Because IW used a hateful epithet -- twice? I watched the clip and he really introduced an awful vibe: "I never called TR a faggot." And he totally wanted to bring people's attention to the whole issue by trying to kiss Patrick Dempsey on the red carpet, by saying "I love gay," then by doing interviews saying "it never happened. It never happened." The show's creator needs to step in and exert some moral authority in the situation and make clear that the use of that kind of language is not acceptable in their work environment or in discussing their work. She probably needs to say that she's spoken with all parties involved and that apologies and gestures of good will have been forthcoming from Isaiah. And he should really sit down with GLAAD, because otherwise, this thing is going to dog him forever.
Ok, if Washington were fired from the show it would RUIN Grey's Anatomy. He is a vital role in the script and without him, what would Cristina have to fuel the situations she gets into?
If someone in normal, everyday life were to say something like what Washington said, it would be set aside, or some words would be exchanged, but then it would be let go. Just because he's a public figure doesn't mean he has to have so much more publicity and criticisms about it. Let it GO.
Fire both of them. This will affect the show because it will be hard for them to continue with the realationship between Georgia & Callie and when a lot of people see Burke they will think of this scandal. I believe he said it and is to cocky to admit that he is sorry. Neither one is that important to the show anymore. A lot of people will not admit it but everytime you see George kiss or make love you will think about the fact that he is gay and the scene will lose its effect. He should have been upfront from the start about being gay and they could have done his character different on the show and know one would have thought anything about it.
What is wrong with this guy?Wasington just cant keep his mouth shot! He gives me a headache. Stop acting like a lil kid!
I think too that Disney will fire him, but I simply don't agree. We don't know what would have happened if TR had said this word to IW. It's your assumption. I have gay friends, that aren't offended and imho IW made a big mistake.I don't justify him, but mistakes can be forgiven.He isn't a bigot for a word. I wouldn't fire him.
If TR were to have called IW the "N" word, he would have been fired ASAP. Equal Opportunity here. They need to let him go. I'm sure Disney will do something drastic because they are a very friendly towards equality and acceptance of Gays, Lesbians, Bisexuals, and Trans-genders. I am offended by what he said.
IW is the best actor in the show. His storyline is interesting.
Did he call TR a f...? He denied it, TR confirmed it. I simply don't care. They should be professional and do their job.
What I know is that a wrong word don't make anybody a bad person or a bigot. We weren't there and we don't know the all story. But in my experience, I know that nobody is perfect, people make mistakes. And if he said the word, he apologized and I don't believe he wanted to offend TR, who enjoyed too much being a victim. Another thought KH shut up!
IW, why did you speak? But strangely, I believe him when he said that he hadn't called TR in that way. But even if he used the word, it's nothing more than a bad choice of word in a moment of rage. Discrimination is different. And I don't like people who want to be a victim in every way.
"Washington should be fired. If HE had been called a name (and we all know which name)by anyone on the show they would be long gone and hard to find. The guy isn't good looking or that much of an actor that he couldn't be replaced by someone waaaaay hotter. Dump the ugly bigot IW."
You have a right to your opinion, but you have no idea if anyone would be fired for using a racial slur in a moment of anger. That is an assumption that you are making. In terms of IW, it is not necessary to make ugly remarks about his appearance, which I personally find extremely handsome and sexy or by calling him names. Is bigot any more acceptable than faggot?
It's not so easy, at my job, IF I said it to a coworker, nobody would have cared, apart from him. Firing him? It'd be a stupid decision and it'd damage the show in the end. We all have said something stupid or that we have regretted. The important thing is that he apologized. He is a good person, he is involved with the humanitarian aids, the homeless, don't make him a monster for a stupid mistake. It'd be a great hipocrisy
Look, I love Burke and the whole Burke/Cristina story line. However, if I said what he said at my job, I'd be gone. It's that simple.
I think this is the price that is paid for being a celebrity. I admire Shonda and the rest of the cast for trying to keep it under wraps because it's nobody's business. I was a little suprised at the latest developments with the public aknowledgements... This should be dealt with behind closed doors and with only the ones involved. IW would definitely have done better not to speak, but which of us haven't said something wrong at one point or the other. I'm not condoning the word, and yes, I believe if he said it (whether about TR or to PD) there should be consequences...but firing him?? No...I don't agree with that...not unless it continusously happens with no care or concern. So where do you draw the line? No one is perfect.
Washington should be fired. If HE had been called a name (and we all know which name)by anyone on the show they would be long gone and hard to find. The guy isn't good looking or that much of an actor that he couldn't be replaced by someone waaaaay hotter. Dump the ugly bigot IW.
just want to clarify my last post by saying that my opinion of the situation was altered because of the post by melissa above. it totally put a new light on the whole story.
melissa would you please tell me where you found out about the gist of the conversation because no where have i been able to come across that info. IF it happened the way you described then everyone owes IW an apology i think. Again IF that was the way it came about, that the word was merely spoken and not directed at TRK, then TRK brought all this attention on himself by being overly sensitive. However, i don't think we'll ever really have the full story. c'est la vie (such is life) they should all rise above and move on. and thanks purple for the link to the interview ;)
My brother is gay and I know what it means being discriminated. But he finds worse when TR went to parties with girls to hide his sexuality than the word IW used. The discrimination starts when you are ashamed of who you are and try to hide it. Please don't be an hero on Ellen now, to enjoy the media and the support.
IW shut up, in your interest. "Faggot" is a slur, but sometimes when it's used, it's not meant to offend or being discriminatory. He apologized. Move on.
Nobody says that the word IW used is fine. He made a mistake and he apologized. It was a bad choice of word, that often happens in real life, even with the people you love. At the GG, he tried to defend himself, not to offend anybody. He should have dealt with it better. But he has been accused for months and nobody let it go. He might have been tired.
I don't find TR classy because he clearly enjoys being the victim and as greyviewer said his show on ellen was pathetic.
As I read these comments, I find some of you amazingly lenient ! The word used by Isaiah Washington is a term of contempt. Period.
I agree with Ms. Heigl that he should learn to avoid speaking in public. If he had let Shonda Rhimes answer the question at the Golden Globes, the fire would not have been ignited again.
I quite liked Sarah's comment about prolonging Burke's recuperation in the show.
I also thing that T.R. Knight is a very classy man, as is P. Dempsey.
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