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May 31st, 2009 3:04 AM
Well said, Freddie. I don't really see how they can keep Izzie alive after everything. It feels like she should die. Don't know about George though, it all seemed pretty sudden.
May 31st, 2009 1:11 AM
Every George scene was always so magic.
I just don't know how Shonda could not realize what an amazing character George was. Sweet, funny, loyal, adorable, hot, and a prince charming with self-esteem issues.
He was complex and wonderful.
He was so lovable.
Now I'm crying again.
I barely forgived her for breaking up George and Izzie. Then she had to neglect their friendship and treat George like some wallpaper.
It's not fair. I just hate Shonda so much.
At least I'll have an hour free of my life now.
I hope all the George fans stop watching. Let's show Shonda how much George meant to us.
May 30th, 2009 10:36 PM
this frustrates me to no end. the scene in the finale where george tells izzie that she knows what to do about her surgery dilemma broke my heart. it was such a good george scene, and probably the last one he will ever have. why couldnt shonda have wrote george into more scenes like that one?? he could have still been here and now the show will never be the same.
May 30th, 2009 10:30 PM
You know. I never realized how much I loved George until the last two seasons when he vanished.
I mean I always liked him, bbut I never realized how much humor and heart and soul he added to the show until he went missing.
I hope it's not too late.
I know this is TV, but George feels like a cherished friend.
He is so sweet and loving, and just lovable.
I want to see him be happy, and to see more of his wonderful smile. It always makes me feel better.
May 30th, 2009 9:28 PM
I've been going over and over this george/izzie issue in my mind and I can;t decide what I want, or what I'm hoping for,,,
I want them alive-duh
But I'm also looking at the integrity(bad englisch sorry) of the show...the Izzie-cancer storyline had been going on since e07...she had 5% chance of survival-BEFORE the new meds, and the small "inoperable" braintumor-that's BAD. Okay, they removed the braintumor etc but now she's coding...she should die. Can't believe I said that (I watch grey's mainly because of Izzie) but I think that's the best way to go.
If they let her live, and thats very possible given it's a tv show, she still is sick. NASTY SICK. And I can garantiue that there will be backslash because then it will be "why Is Izzie still alive, SERIOUSLY??!!" and they will be right.
Because this wasn't a big storyline off season 5....it was THE storyline off season 5. denny came back to get Izzie-I GET IT NOW. I think it was BRILLIANTLY done: I just watch s05 again and I
May 30th, 2009 7:02 PM
Meh. I got used to the show without George. If he leaves, it's fine by me!
Rank: Extra
May 30th, 2009 1:38 PM
if george and izzie go, i do too. i refuse to watch the show without them. I love alex,meredith and christina but without george and izzie its not the same. I'm praying that they both decide to stay.
Watching this show since day one you almost feel like their family and when a family member dies its so hard to get over!
May 30th, 2009 12:41 PM
Nope. Not believing it.
Rank: Regular Character
May 29th, 2009 6:32 PM
I think that my point about KH is getting out of context. My only point is that KH may not mean that her comments are ungrateful or a slap in the face but it certainly is perceived that way. True, the press helps a lot in either sense but I don't believe that KH isn't aware of the aftermath of such remarks. Maybe she didn't have bad intentions, maybe she did, however it is, she should at least pick a better timing out of it or don't say anything at all.
I do agree that being a writer for this show is an incredibly difficult job. No fan is ever going to be happy. There wasn't enough MerDer, where was George?, Cris/Owen didn't have a storyline in X episode. Keeping everyone happy is virtually impossible. There is just no way to do it but I do believe in a balance being made. Episodes like the SK arc and ELL had really good balance in terms of characters (with the obvious exception of George).
And yes, I was one of those persons that made the Izzie/KH connection for her cancer stor
May 29th, 2009 5:48 PM
I won't watch if TR leaves. I feel Shonda ripped us George fans all season. I wanted to see him and Izzie clsoe again. I wanted him to find love again. I wanted to see the ramifications of all he went through. If he felt alone and isolated like they hinted at the end, I wanted to see that. TR would have rocked a depressed George story. I wanted George to become the great doctor I always knew he was without it happening over 5 minutes in 2 episodes.
There is so much more they can do with George. It feels like everyone else got to have something, except him. I don't get that. TR is so talented, and George is so loved.
And yes I am a Gizzie fan, both friendship and romantic-wise. I'll always think they belong together, but I would have accepted them as just best friends again if it only allowed TR and Katie to shine together again and I would have accepted someone new with George if it made him happy. I love George.
I have invested five years rooting for him, to get his happy end
May 29th, 2009 5:40 PM
Hey, wicked, I totally agree with you. I never thought ill of KH when I heard about these statements she's made in the past. We all know what the media is able to do. It can create a god out of someone and the next moment just tear that apart. And what makes me most certain that KH is not the b*tch everyone seems to think she is, is that she KNOWS THAT. She knows how this business works. At an Oprah interview, before everything happened, Oprah asked her how did it feel to be this famous actress everyone loves. And KH says it's great but that she knows how easily these things can change. I honestly can't believe that someone that is aware of that could actually make statements that would jeopardize their career. I honestly believe there's a double standard there, like wicked said; and that her words and intentions were twisted to fit some sort of media story. That's how things work, really.
To everyone who keeps saying that the actors and writers are ungrateful to the fans; that with
May 29th, 2009 3:58 PM
I appreciate those who agree with my assesment on the whole Emmy bruhaha.
And I agree with those who said that TR is classy by staying silent. I never heard the man whine once. I would hate to see both TR and KH leave. I love the chemistry between George and Izzie. And not in a "Gizzie" way, but as best friends. I miss that.
As for then KH comments. She never really slammed the writers, and I read she even said she supports the writers and it is not their decision where the storyline goes. She never said, "the writers sucked and gave me crappy material so I will not submit my name for Emmy consideration." She was even asked the question while she was walking down the street if she was putting in for an Emmy. That's how it came about. She didnt' hold this mass press conference. She was asked a question, and she answered truthfully. Nothing ungratful about that. As for the Knocked Up comment, she said she enjoyed doing the movie 99% of the time. I agree with her to a point about t
Rank: Regular Character
May 29th, 2009 1:37 PM
Ok, I am not saying that KH is a b*tch for her opinions. All I'm saying is that everything that you say has a repercussion and that she should've waited before saying anything. I understand her comments on Knocked Up. Didn't exactly agreed with it (it was only a movie after all) but she did have a point. She could've waited a couple of years before she said anything but she didn't. It's up to her.
About the Emmy's comment. Why did she had to explain her actions? Or better, why did she had to say anything at all? Maybe she really didn't have an Emmy storyline but why say it? Most TV critics to this as a slap in the face to the writers. Maybe she didn't knew that this could feel that way but I don't think that Katherine wasn't smart enough to know that this could be bad for some people.
Somebody asked about her asking a lighter storyline in S.4. I believe it was Ausiello the one that reported that she asked for that storyline so that she could film her movies (I believe it was The
May 29th, 2009 1:32 PM
If Izzy goes, I won't watch anymore. She is my favorite on there, and I won't be too happy if George goes either.
May 29th, 2009 11:55 AM
George don't go. TR don't go. We love you.
We need George and Izzie scenes too. We didn't get many this year, but at least we ot some.
If you die, we'll never have that anymore.
We need you. Please stay. You make Grey so much better.
May 29th, 2009 11:50 AM
Oh I respect TR so much for staying quiet. I can't tell you how mad I get that he gets called a whiner by some people when the guy has never said a bad word against the show or anyone really.
It makes me mad people expect TR to stay at a place where his boss hates him for something someone did to him.
I love TR completely. He's the one who gave me my wonderful Geeorge. He's the one who gave me my wonderful Gizzie relationship.
So if someone attacks him unfairly, I will defend him.
I want him happy so if he leaves, I'll respect that but I won't watch Grey without him and I will never accept a new George.
Rank: Extra
May 29th, 2009 11:01 AM
OK here is how it will go. George will not die. The magic of Dr. McSteamy will give him a new face and if TR wants to leave the show we love him and wish him all the best. No one should be unhappy in a place where they 75% of their waking hours but George will come back with a new face (job opening).
Izzy is on the elevator for the grand exit (George did not get on the elevator).
Katherine should have taken a cue from "Joey" in Friends, say something bad about the writers they put you down the elevator (reference Joey's interview regarding his "Days of Our Lives" interview not giving the writers the credit).
I still cry when I watch that episode. Who ever leaves will be missed.
Rank: Extra
May 29th, 2009 10:37 AM
Thanks for the support, greysaddiction! It´s good to know that I´m not the only one who believes it! \o/
I'm kinda new to this website, and I'm kinda of not new... I read it for a loooooong time, but I was kind of shy to express my oppinion... But season 5 wouldn´t let me be quiet abou it! ;)
Here in Brazil we are a bit late... last episode on TV was "I will follow you into the dark". So I'm enjoying these last episodes. And knowing what will happend (and seeing it online, sometimes, cause I´m not made of iron...) makes you look at it differently! You kind of get the things that were betwen the lines, see things you wouldn´t normally pay attention the 1st time you watch the episode. :)
May 29th, 2009 9:57 AM
Wicked - I love what you said about KH. Just awesome. I agree.
Anuflas - I agree she did have some bad timing with Knocked Up, and I was pretty shocked she had those opinions on it, but as far as the Emmy's, it wasn't her fault that it was around the writer's strike. She would have said those words had it been or not, and she was still picketing with the writers as well. She can support them but be unhappy with what she was given. It happens.
Grey's Addiction: George DID grow as a character, but he really didn't get a lot of time to showcase it, like you mentioned. We saw bits and pieces instead of just one whole thing. I do love his character, and I love his friendship with Izzie.
Also, since someone mentioned how Mer could not recognize George's eyes .. how could she not recognize the face? He wasn't that disfigured. Or the hands or any part that was showing. Not only was he a roomie to her, but she slept with him! Not that she enjoyed it, but she did! lol She should have re
May 29th, 2009 8:43 AM
carolina writes:
"I don´t see KH as a b*tch because she took her name out of the Emmy race. If I´m not much mistaken, lots of actors do that, especially when there are other supporting actors on the same show that can enter the race. By doing that she can open up space for Sandra Oh or Chandra Wilson, who are as great actresses as KH, in my opinion. So, im really OK with that."
I totally agree w/ this. When originally it was reported, I went back and forth A LOT on what I thought about what she said... but I've ended up here-- I don't think she's a b*tch for it at all. And I very much respect her ability and willingness to speak her mind, as well. And as a celeb, everything she does and says has to be put under a media microscope-- give her a break!
But I also very much respect TR's quiet respectfulness. I truly think that TR is a class act. He has been quiet and respectful through all and some of the things said about him are more than deserving of a heated response-- th
Rank: Extra
May 29th, 2009 8:04 AM
@wicked Says: I totally agree with you! I don´t see KH as a b*tch because she took her name out of the Emmy race. If I´m not much mistaken, lots of actors do that, especially when there are other supporting actors on the same show that can enter the race. By doing that she can open up space for Sandra Oh or Chandra Wilson, who are as great actresses as KH, in my opinion. So, im really OK with that.
I guess I am one of the few people who gets George storyline. I don´t remember where I read it, but someone once said that the army storyline was long comming. I guess that to George understand the soldier who wanted to cut his leg of and come back to the war, he had to go through everything he went through. The loss of his father, his rushed marriage, his affair with Izzie, his broken marriage, failing the intern test and so on...
He had to have this feeling that he wasn´t making much difference where he were (although I disagree), because it was that feeling that made him enlist
May 29th, 2009 5:33 AM
Honestly, I think it'll be a little silly if Izzie survives. Not that I don't want her too. But, I mean, if she survives it'll be another of those medical miracles, right? And we already had one of those with Meredith.
Rank: Guest Star
May 29th, 2009 4:02 AM
Oh and wicked: I absolutely and totally agree with you.
Rank: Guest Star
May 29th, 2009 3:54 AM
I will refuse to believe any of these spoilers, at least until June 15th -if I'm right, then that's the date where Shonda has to decide what to do with the actors and the contracts etc. And she definitely won't give away anything until then. After that, she might stay quiet, but I'm sure we'll learn the truth during the summer.
So, until June 15th, there cannot be any reliable source in my opinion.
I really wish that both characters and actors would stay, but I also think that George is gone..."Off I go"...aaah.
I am pretty sure that Izzie will survive. The whole "screw the DNR", coming from the Chief...they will save her.
May 29th, 2009 3:39 AM
I am reading some of these comments on KH having a right to her opinion, but that it was bad timing. It truly makes me laugh. So, yes she has an opinion, and people may not care for what she say's, but truly, what physical and emotional and major damage has she caused by speaking her mind?
This girl got thrown under the bus for stating that she was not going to put her name for Emmy consideration. If Tom Hanks were to say he was not going to put his name in for consideration of an Oscar because the material didn't give his character a "moment" {and he did for Apollo 13} no one said, "that Tom Hanks is one ungratful bastard!" Actor's have done that before, and the male actors are seen as stepping aside to give another actor a chance, becasue there character was not "Oscar worthy". But Katherine Heigel said "she didn't have the materials to give an Emmy worthy performance and does not want to take that away to actresses who did" and she is an ungrateful bitch. I FUCKING HATE THE DOUB