It was awsome, just accept it. If you don't like the show, then don't watch it. Your not in the characters or the storyline.
Stop wasting your time making these stupid reviews :)
Dan
February 9th, 2010 10:22 AM
Yeah i agree that if the reviews are so dead set again the show then they have no business reviewing it. I understand they have to review everything but for god sake get someone else because this ML House person isnt thinking objectively at all anymore. We all know that this season wasnt great, had its weak points, in short could have been better...SO WHAT!! we (fans of heroes) still loved it! i think that the die hard fans on this site are proving that we dont mind that much...we are invested in these characters and want to see where they end up and honestly guys a few plots holes and some crappy writing isnt going to make me like Hiro any less. Yeah tracy's storyline (or lack of) sucked balls this season, but i still love Ali Larter, the cryokinetic power and the character in general. What I (and apparently other die hard fans) dont like is some idiot with a website blog bashing our show every week. Personally i come to this site for spoilers and to see what some people think o
Wouter
February 9th, 2010 9:31 AM
They should have let Samuel just run of with his Brotherhood and start a muta..ehm..special-land somewhere remote (maybe they can have Dinosaurs as well) Then Matt Parkman turns bald and starts a school for the gifted while headbutting with Samuel every now and then.
After Claire's exposure to the world she' ll get chased by the government who capture her and use her in some kind of special military program, turning her into the ultimate weapon!
Wait a minute...
Tel-X
February 9th, 2010 9:14 AM
I want to see them become PROPER superheroes - in costume.! As a team.! I'm a bit sick of the ambiguity. Hero or villain.? I thought that would have been decided by now for the main characters at least. Still, I never miss an episode and am very much looking forward to S5.
Picazo Rank: Recurring Character
February 9th, 2010 8:36 AM
Most people who visit this website are blind and I am sorry but this was the worse finale in Heroes History I don’t care if there will be a season 5 or not. This show went down the drain I am so mad right now what could be a very good episode was done soooo bad ugh.
Bobby
February 9th, 2010 6:35 AM
I think Heroes should have ended with Samuel destroying Central
Park and killing lots of people right before Peter jumps in and stops him. This is the point where Peter should have gotten his scar due to all the debris in the air, a piece of earth could have flown and struck across his face. The Claire/Noah storyline should have been better too. Noah should have finally died while Claire pleaded for him to stay alive. Two weeks later in the Volume 6 teaser they should have been found by a working crew. Claire would by that point be on the verge of an evil side having to be down there with her dead dad for two weeks. That's when she would have showed the world about them. Hiro/Ando storyline should have ended with Central Park being destroyed and Hiro, out of panic, teleports away and forgetting Ando, who gets buried alive by the earthquake. Volume 6 two weeks later finds a very angry Hiro standing at Ando's grave. He blames himself for his death and swears to get revenge. A
Gavin
February 9th, 2010 6:23 AM
I agree with eveyrthing ML House says, think back to season 1 and the anticipation of the next episode, the fact anyone could get killed by a true threat in sylar. the mystery of the company and what Noah Bennett did, trying to predict what gift peter had and when we did find out he had empathetic mimicry we seen potential to be the most special of the all, Hiro as a future bad ass samurai could have been on par with Wesley Wyndham Pryce from angel in terms of character development seeing him go from a nerdy teen to a warrior. Claire with the ability to regenerate could have no harm come to her and lets not forget nikki i.e. HULK, think of the possibilities she could have had.
Now compare this to what we have now....No threat at all and not once did you feel anyone was in danger, no mystery except for the fact what was samuels plan?peter was an improvement over the other seasons by being clever with his gift rather than the stupid person he was written as in season 2/3, Hiro the chil
Anna
February 9th, 2010 5:58 AM
ryan, the treatment of Mohinder this season is a mystery. Sendhil has stated that he started filming like the rest of the cast in June, and at one point was asked to grow a beard, yet his character did not show up until halfway through the season, never had a beard... He was also intended to play a role in the final three episode, but was scrapped last minute - his name is still listed in the press releases, and writing him out created a plothole regarding the compass. The writers refuse to answer questions about Sendhil or Mohinder, but I'm getting the impression that things behind the scenes are not happy. Imagien you spend an entire summer on stand-by for a TV show that ends up cutting half your scenes, and writes you out of episodes at the very last minute...
ryan
February 9th, 2010 5:45 AM
i thought towards the end of the series it got a bit dissapointing, the main point when hiro, ando and suresh turned up at noahs flat saying hi at the end of one of the episodes. then mysteriously dissapearing again while noah gets captured. then when they do show up in the final episode suresh is nowhere to be seen. whats all that about
Nick
February 9th, 2010 5:42 AM
I'm actually excited for Volume 5 Brave New World! Season finale was fast and didn't have the great special effects i would like but i liked how the characters interacted. My biggest complaint is Tracy being used like mohinder. hey i'm just stopping by....I love that if the world knows about them the good guys could team up kinda like Captain America and the Avengers or Xmen and fight terrorism for the U.S. of course there will be terrorists with powers too!
Tina Turner
February 9th, 2010 5:26 AM
Out of the ruins
out from the wreckage
can't make the same mistake this time
we are the viewers
the last ones remaining
we are the ones they left behind
and I wonder when we are ever gonna change the channel
watching crap on TV cuz nothing else remains
All the viewers say:
We don't need another Heroes
we don't need to know what Claire does
All we want is life beyond
Heroes
Emily
February 9th, 2010 4:55 AM
Okay.... so what if the heroes final wasn't that fantastic... So was the season but i think that they know what they did wrong! i say we give them at least one more chance to prove that it's the TV show it used to be!!! I mean come on it was fantastic in season 1 just hire new writers and there you go but at least one more chance seriously! :)
Jason
February 9th, 2010 2:42 AM
I have no idea how people can defend this show. Did you watch it? I understand that you are faithful, and I respect that. I'm still watching at this point. But you must realize at some point that this is terrible storytelling. And the acting is nothing to what it once was.
I've seen every episode. I've seen it get worse every episode. Tim Kring had a magical, serendipitous first season, and then he had a disappointing second season, and then show fell off a cliff. Everything said in this review was absolutely true. Should it be renewed next season, I'll do my best to avoid it.
Pete
February 9th, 2010 2:32 AM
Lol, as if your previous reviews weren't bad enough you write another poor excuse for a review which is really just a disguise for your hatred for the show.
Get a real job because your critique had moved beyond the point of valid criticism and has ventured into hateful bashing.
I thought this was the best finale the show has had.
And if you really don't like the show, why do you continue to watch it? So you can post your garbage "reviews"? There are hundreds of channels with hundreds of shows for you to "review". Let the real Heroes fans decide how good the show is or not.
On more than one occasion you have falsely accused the show of plot holes and bad writing when, in fact, it was just your ignorance and poor attention span getting in the way.
LMG
February 9th, 2010 1:51 AM
That whole "if you don't like it, don't watch it" thing doesn't work for everyone. While millions of past Heroes' fans have done just that - stopped watching - there are a bunch of us that just can't. It is like an abusive relationship... you stick with it because y ou already invested so much love in it, but it just keeps hurting you even more. I have never missed an episode. I used to be a huge advocate for this show, even going as far as buying the first season for people who didn't watch it in attempts to make them fans. Now I am embarrassed. And I wait for that glorious day when I read "NBC has officially cancelled Heroes." Only then will I be put out of my misery, my misery of my weak will of not being able to let go of something that I used to love but has now (and for some time) been a big pile of garbage.
artiswar
February 9th, 2010 1:42 AM
Granted, Heroes has had there fair share of lackluster episodes but as a fan of the show since episode one, let me point some things out:
1. No matter what you watch if you're looking for crap you'll find it. 90% of a show could be excellent yet "some people" bash on the %10 they paid attention to i.e., "the crap." So this brings about the already said statement, if you don't like it DON'T WATCH IT.
2. On the bright side, things were resolved although now Claire has to create a whole new batch of problems, like always.
3. Whoever wrote the review on this show is clearly someone who does not watch the show willingly nor would care enough to see any bright side in it.
I do appreciate fair criticism and I am by no means saying Heroes is the best show on tv but to straight up bash anything is not the right way to review. People read this to get the information with a little input to make their own conclusions, not listen to whining and complaining by a reviewer about a show they don't
dude
February 9th, 2010 1:38 AM
The show got better towards the end of the season and the writers have actually given themselves an opportunity to redeem the series for a final season. Of course, this means NBC needs to get some serious talent on this thing.
Exactly how much sense do you need a show about superpowers to make?
MZBrink
February 9th, 2010 1:15 AM
It's nice to visit your site occasionally because it really is the shining example of giving a troll a megaphone. Thank you for graciously providing me with this opportunity :)
ihateclaire
February 9th, 2010 1:10 AM
um, ml house is right, this show blows. how dare claire expose everyone else cause shes a retard. she had no right. she cant die soo shes not afraid. all noah had to do was tell her she has no right to expose everyone without asking them. shes a god damn retard. very weak writing. the hrg i know would have told hiro to stop her. grabed her himself. shes weak as hell. he could have grabbed her up and put her away. claires character is the weakest of the show.
do they have different writers from season one and two? wth? its like crack..the first pull(season one) was soo wonderfull i came taking hits (watching season four and most of three) eventhough its killing just to get the same feel of the first hit again.
damn
jinuriki
February 9th, 2010 1:01 AM
Speak as a fan of the show since episode 1 having never missed a single episode. I will state that this past season was a little dissapointing but it did dwell in to characters reasoning for doing the things they do. not to mention that awesome ending, I actually can't wait for next season I just wish they would tell us what happened to some of the other Characters like Micha or his cousins
Brain
February 9th, 2010 12:49 AM
a lot of people missed the quick cut to the surgery after Ishi healed her son. I missed it the first time, myself.
Sylar's redemption has been building since 1.1, when Mohinder tracked his apartment down and found "FORGIVE ME!" scrawled 90 gillion times in the closet.
several other plot points were semi-explained in the GNs.
I'll let them speak for themselves, like Mohinder's recent bit, walking out of "Pass/Fail" and I have no idea what the f happened in that gn. he returns home, presumably Molly(s big sister) tells him where to find his gf, Mira, who has been abducted/tortured by HRG Sr(??) for no reason, he breaks down the door and they hug. wtF?
I'm going to let Tracy's story stand for itself. I'm not even touching that one.
These latter two are half the reason I let the h8rz make fools of themselves, as even a devoted fan like me can't explain some of these inane side stories.
Smashtastic
February 9th, 2010 12:01 AM
While some things were lack luster allow me to point out some important relationships that you glossed over in your criticism.
1. Sylar's transformation is not quite as much a mystery as you play it out to be if you follow the character's psychological progression throughout the entire series where his character has gone through many oscillations of good/evil. There was the time he felt he was doing good through The Company until they did him wrong and lost his trust. Or what about the flashbacks showing his ambivalence towards his "hunger" and his behavior that results from it. As many viewers should be aware Sylar has never been completely at ease with his actions. He has always had moments of regret and guilt. And through this last season he had many moments to aid to the solidification of his transformation. He did spend 5 years in the nightmare that was supposed to bring his fear of living alone for all eternity. Do you expect the writers to fill in all that five years?
bmp
February 8th, 2010 11:59 PM
if you dont like it then dont watch it!!! its that simple!
Me
February 8th, 2010 11:52 PM
What about samuel?
He was alone when he bring down the house, the police station and the town. There were no specials around him. And now he is powerless because his family left...
Matt Richenthal Rank: Staff Member
February 8th, 2010 11:35 PM
@zomgloz: thank you! I appreciate all feedback, but am especially partial to comments that flatter me :)
Other examples of how the show just makes stuff up as it goes along:
- Sylar and Peter were stuck in their dream for just a couple hours... but to make it seem like a legitimate change of heart, hey, let's say it felt like five years!
- HRG and Claire just happened to be a helicopter's ride away from Central Park. did they ride take five minutes? Five hours? Days? Who knows? Who cares?!?
- Lauren managed to remain around the carnival grounds, as she got away last week in one of the laziest examples of clueless writing ever: the show literally acknowledged it didn't know how it happened, as apparently someone with no abilities could outsmart mr. duplicating man.
- She then managed to call in favors to get a helicopter to fly Claire and HRG to NYC; and to book Samuel for... what, exactly? If they used the excuse that the earth moving was related to special effects or a gas pipe,
Sylar: I can't bring Nathan back Peter, but I can sure as Hell swing a sledgehammer.
February 9th, 2010 10:31 AM
It was awsome, just accept it. If you don't like the show, then don't watch it. Your not in the characters or the storyline.
Stop wasting your time making these stupid reviews :)
February 9th, 2010 10:22 AM
Yeah i agree that if the reviews are so dead set again the show then they have no business reviewing it. I understand they have to review everything but for god sake get someone else because this ML House person isnt thinking objectively at all anymore. We all know that this season wasnt great, had its weak points, in short could have been better...SO WHAT!! we (fans of heroes) still loved it! i think that the die hard fans on this site are proving that we dont mind that much...we are invested in these characters and want to see where they end up and honestly guys a few plots holes and some crappy writing isnt going to make me like Hiro any less. Yeah tracy's storyline (or lack of) sucked balls this season, but i still love Ali Larter, the cryokinetic power and the character in general. What I (and apparently other die hard fans) dont like is some idiot with a website blog bashing our show every week. Personally i come to this site for spoilers and to see what some people think o
February 9th, 2010 9:31 AM
They should have let Samuel just run of with his Brotherhood and start a muta..ehm..special-land somewhere remote (maybe they can have Dinosaurs as well) Then Matt Parkman turns bald and starts a school for the gifted while headbutting with Samuel every now and then.
After Claire's exposure to the world she' ll get chased by the government who capture her and use her in some kind of special military program, turning her into the ultimate weapon!
Wait a minute...
February 9th, 2010 9:14 AM
I want to see them become PROPER superheroes - in costume.! As a team.! I'm a bit sick of the ambiguity. Hero or villain.? I thought that would have been decided by now for the main characters at least. Still, I never miss an episode and am very much looking forward to S5.
Rank: Recurring Character
February 9th, 2010 8:36 AM
Most people who visit this website are blind and I am sorry but this was the worse finale in Heroes History I don’t care if there will be a season 5 or not. This show went down the drain I am so mad right now what could be a very good episode was done soooo bad ugh.
February 9th, 2010 6:35 AM
I think Heroes should have ended with Samuel destroying Central
Park and killing lots of people right before Peter jumps in and stops him. This is the point where Peter should have gotten his scar due to all the debris in the air, a piece of earth could have flown and struck across his face. The Claire/Noah storyline should have been better too. Noah should have finally died while Claire pleaded for him to stay alive. Two weeks later in the Volume 6 teaser they should have been found by a working crew. Claire would by that point be on the verge of an evil side having to be down there with her dead dad for two weeks. That's when she would have showed the world about them. Hiro/Ando storyline should have ended with Central Park being destroyed and Hiro, out of panic, teleports away and forgetting Ando, who gets buried alive by the earthquake. Volume 6 two weeks later finds a very angry Hiro standing at Ando's grave. He blames himself for his death and swears to get revenge. A
February 9th, 2010 6:23 AM
I agree with eveyrthing ML House says, think back to season 1 and the anticipation of the next episode, the fact anyone could get killed by a true threat in sylar. the mystery of the company and what Noah Bennett did, trying to predict what gift peter had and when we did find out he had empathetic mimicry we seen potential to be the most special of the all, Hiro as a future bad ass samurai could have been on par with Wesley Wyndham Pryce from angel in terms of character development seeing him go from a nerdy teen to a warrior. Claire with the ability to regenerate could have no harm come to her and lets not forget nikki i.e. HULK, think of the possibilities she could have had.
Now compare this to what we have now....No threat at all and not once did you feel anyone was in danger, no mystery except for the fact what was samuels plan?peter was an improvement over the other seasons by being clever with his gift rather than the stupid person he was written as in season 2/3, Hiro the chil
February 9th, 2010 5:58 AM
ryan, the treatment of Mohinder this season is a mystery. Sendhil has stated that he started filming like the rest of the cast in June, and at one point was asked to grow a beard, yet his character did not show up until halfway through the season, never had a beard... He was also intended to play a role in the final three episode, but was scrapped last minute - his name is still listed in the press releases, and writing him out created a plothole regarding the compass. The writers refuse to answer questions about Sendhil or Mohinder, but I'm getting the impression that things behind the scenes are not happy. Imagien you spend an entire summer on stand-by for a TV show that ends up cutting half your scenes, and writes you out of episodes at the very last minute...
February 9th, 2010 5:45 AM
i thought towards the end of the series it got a bit dissapointing, the main point when hiro, ando and suresh turned up at noahs flat saying hi at the end of one of the episodes. then mysteriously dissapearing again while noah gets captured. then when they do show up in the final episode suresh is nowhere to be seen. whats all that about
February 9th, 2010 5:42 AM
I'm actually excited for Volume 5 Brave New World! Season finale was fast and didn't have the great special effects i would like but i liked how the characters interacted. My biggest complaint is Tracy being used like mohinder. hey i'm just stopping by....I love that if the world knows about them the good guys could team up kinda like Captain America and the Avengers or Xmen and fight terrorism for the U.S. of course there will be terrorists with powers too!
February 9th, 2010 5:26 AM
Out of the ruins
out from the wreckage
can't make the same mistake this time
we are the viewers
the last ones remaining
we are the ones they left behind
and I wonder when we are ever gonna change the channel
watching crap on TV cuz nothing else remains
All the viewers say:
We don't need another Heroes
we don't need to know what Claire does
All we want is life beyond
Heroes
February 9th, 2010 4:55 AM
Okay.... so what if the heroes final wasn't that fantastic... So was the season but i think that they know what they did wrong! i say we give them at least one more chance to prove that it's the TV show it used to be!!! I mean come on it was fantastic in season 1 just hire new writers and there you go but at least one more chance seriously! :)
February 9th, 2010 2:42 AM
I have no idea how people can defend this show. Did you watch it? I understand that you are faithful, and I respect that. I'm still watching at this point. But you must realize at some point that this is terrible storytelling. And the acting is nothing to what it once was.
I've seen every episode. I've seen it get worse every episode. Tim Kring had a magical, serendipitous first season, and then he had a disappointing second season, and then show fell off a cliff. Everything said in this review was absolutely true. Should it be renewed next season, I'll do my best to avoid it.
February 9th, 2010 2:32 AM
Lol, as if your previous reviews weren't bad enough you write another poor excuse for a review which is really just a disguise for your hatred for the show.
Get a real job because your critique had moved beyond the point of valid criticism and has ventured into hateful bashing.
I thought this was the best finale the show has had.
And if you really don't like the show, why do you continue to watch it? So you can post your garbage "reviews"? There are hundreds of channels with hundreds of shows for you to "review". Let the real Heroes fans decide how good the show is or not.
On more than one occasion you have falsely accused the show of plot holes and bad writing when, in fact, it was just your ignorance and poor attention span getting in the way.
February 9th, 2010 1:51 AM
That whole "if you don't like it, don't watch it" thing doesn't work for everyone. While millions of past Heroes' fans have done just that - stopped watching - there are a bunch of us that just can't. It is like an abusive relationship... you stick with it because y ou already invested so much love in it, but it just keeps hurting you even more. I have never missed an episode. I used to be a huge advocate for this show, even going as far as buying the first season for people who didn't watch it in attempts to make them fans. Now I am embarrassed. And I wait for that glorious day when I read "NBC has officially cancelled Heroes." Only then will I be put out of my misery, my misery of my weak will of not being able to let go of something that I used to love but has now (and for some time) been a big pile of garbage.
February 9th, 2010 1:42 AM
Granted, Heroes has had there fair share of lackluster episodes but as a fan of the show since episode one, let me point some things out:
1. No matter what you watch if you're looking for crap you'll find it. 90% of a show could be excellent yet "some people" bash on the %10 they paid attention to i.e., "the crap." So this brings about the already said statement, if you don't like it DON'T WATCH IT.
2. On the bright side, things were resolved although now Claire has to create a whole new batch of problems, like always.
3. Whoever wrote the review on this show is clearly someone who does not watch the show willingly nor would care enough to see any bright side in it.
I do appreciate fair criticism and I am by no means saying Heroes is the best show on tv but to straight up bash anything is not the right way to review. People read this to get the information with a little input to make their own conclusions, not listen to whining and complaining by a reviewer about a show they don't
February 9th, 2010 1:38 AM
The show got better towards the end of the season and the writers have actually given themselves an opportunity to redeem the series for a final season. Of course, this means NBC needs to get some serious talent on this thing.
Exactly how much sense do you need a show about superpowers to make?
February 9th, 2010 1:15 AM
It's nice to visit your site occasionally because it really is the shining example of giving a troll a megaphone. Thank you for graciously providing me with this opportunity :)
February 9th, 2010 1:10 AM
um, ml house is right, this show blows. how dare claire expose everyone else cause shes a retard. she had no right. she cant die soo shes not afraid. all noah had to do was tell her she has no right to expose everyone without asking them. shes a god damn retard. very weak writing. the hrg i know would have told hiro to stop her. grabed her himself. shes weak as hell. he could have grabbed her up and put her away. claires character is the weakest of the show.
do they have different writers from season one and two? wth? its like crack..the first pull(season one) was soo wonderfull i came taking hits (watching season four and most of three) eventhough its killing just to get the same feel of the first hit again.
damn
February 9th, 2010 1:01 AM
Speak as a fan of the show since episode 1 having never missed a single episode. I will state that this past season was a little dissapointing but it did dwell in to characters reasoning for doing the things they do. not to mention that awesome ending, I actually can't wait for next season I just wish they would tell us what happened to some of the other Characters like Micha or his cousins
February 9th, 2010 12:49 AM
a lot of people missed the quick cut to the surgery after Ishi healed her son. I missed it the first time, myself.
Sylar's redemption has been building since 1.1, when Mohinder tracked his apartment down and found "FORGIVE ME!" scrawled 90 gillion times in the closet.
several other plot points were semi-explained in the GNs.
I'll let them speak for themselves, like Mohinder's recent bit, walking out of "Pass/Fail" and I have no idea what the f happened in that gn. he returns home, presumably Molly(s big sister) tells him where to find his gf, Mira, who has been abducted/tortured by HRG Sr(??) for no reason, he breaks down the door and they hug. wtF?
I'm going to let Tracy's story stand for itself. I'm not even touching that one.
These latter two are half the reason I let the h8rz make fools of themselves, as even a devoted fan like me can't explain some of these inane side stories.
February 9th, 2010 12:01 AM
While some things were lack luster allow me to point out some important relationships that you glossed over in your criticism.
1. Sylar's transformation is not quite as much a mystery as you play it out to be if you follow the character's psychological progression throughout the entire series where his character has gone through many oscillations of good/evil. There was the time he felt he was doing good through The Company until they did him wrong and lost his trust. Or what about the flashbacks showing his ambivalence towards his "hunger" and his behavior that results from it. As many viewers should be aware Sylar has never been completely at ease with his actions. He has always had moments of regret and guilt. And through this last season he had many moments to aid to the solidification of his transformation. He did spend 5 years in the nightmare that was supposed to bring his fear of living alone for all eternity. Do you expect the writers to fill in all that five years?
February 8th, 2010 11:59 PM
if you dont like it then dont watch it!!! its that simple!
February 8th, 2010 11:52 PM
What about samuel?
He was alone when he bring down the house, the police station and the town. There were no specials around him. And now he is powerless because his family left...
Rank: Staff Member
February 8th, 2010 11:35 PM
@zomgloz: thank you! I appreciate all feedback, but am especially partial to comments that flatter me :)
Other examples of how the show just makes stuff up as it goes along:
- Sylar and Peter were stuck in their dream for just a couple hours... but to make it seem like a legitimate change of heart, hey, let's say it felt like five years!
- HRG and Claire just happened to be a helicopter's ride away from Central Park. did they ride take five minutes? Five hours? Days? Who knows? Who cares?!?
- Lauren managed to remain around the carnival grounds, as she got away last week in one of the laziest examples of clueless writing ever: the show literally acknowledged it didn't know how it happened, as apparently someone with no abilities could outsmart mr. duplicating man.
- She then managed to call in favors to get a helicopter to fly Claire and HRG to NYC; and to book Samuel for... what, exactly? If they used the excuse that the earth moving was related to special effects or a gas pipe,