ryan, the treatment of Mohinder this season is a mystery. Sendhil has stated that he started filming like the rest of the cast in June, and at one point was asked to grow a beard, yet his character did not show up until halfway through the season, never had a beard... He was also intended to play a role in the final three episode, but was scrapped last minute - his name is still listed in the press releases, and writing him out created a plothole regarding the compass. The writers refuse to answer questions about Sendhil or Mohinder, but I'm getting the impression that things behind the scenes are not happy. Imagien you spend an entire summer on stand-by for a TV show that ends up cutting half your scenes, and writes you out of episodes at the very last minute...
ryan
February 9th, 2010 5:45 AM
i thought towards the end of the series it got a bit dissapointing, the main point when hiro, ando and suresh turned up at noahs flat saying hi at the end of one of the episodes. then mysteriously dissapearing again while noah gets captured. then when they do show up in the final episode suresh is nowhere to be seen. whats all that about
Nick
February 9th, 2010 5:42 AM
I'm actually excited for Volume 5 Brave New World! Season finale was fast and didn't have the great special effects i would like but i liked how the characters interacted. My biggest complaint is Tracy being used like mohinder. hey i'm just stopping by....I love that if the world knows about them the good guys could team up kinda like Captain America and the Avengers or Xmen and fight terrorism for the U.S. of course there will be terrorists with powers too!
Tina Turner
February 9th, 2010 5:26 AM
Out of the ruins
out from the wreckage
can't make the same mistake this time
we are the viewers
the last ones remaining
we are the ones they left behind
and I wonder when we are ever gonna change the channel
watching crap on TV cuz nothing else remains
All the viewers say:
We don't need another Heroes
we don't need to know what Claire does
All we want is life beyond
Heroes
Emily
February 9th, 2010 4:55 AM
Okay.... so what if the heroes final wasn't that fantastic... So was the season but i think that they know what they did wrong! i say we give them at least one more chance to prove that it's the TV show it used to be!!! I mean come on it was fantastic in season 1 just hire new writers and there you go but at least one more chance seriously! :)
Jason
February 9th, 2010 2:42 AM
I have no idea how people can defend this show. Did you watch it? I understand that you are faithful, and I respect that. I'm still watching at this point. But you must realize at some point that this is terrible storytelling. And the acting is nothing to what it once was.
I've seen every episode. I've seen it get worse every episode. Tim Kring had a magical, serendipitous first season, and then he had a disappointing second season, and then show fell off a cliff. Everything said in this review was absolutely true. Should it be renewed next season, I'll do my best to avoid it.
Pete
February 9th, 2010 2:32 AM
Lol, as if your previous reviews weren't bad enough you write another poor excuse for a review which is really just a disguise for your hatred for the show.
Get a real job because your critique had moved beyond the point of valid criticism and has ventured into hateful bashing.
I thought this was the best finale the show has had.
And if you really don't like the show, why do you continue to watch it? So you can post your garbage "reviews"? There are hundreds of channels with hundreds of shows for you to "review". Let the real Heroes fans decide how good the show is or not.
On more than one occasion you have falsely accused the show of plot holes and bad writing when, in fact, it was just your ignorance and poor attention span getting in the way.
LMG
February 9th, 2010 1:51 AM
That whole "if you don't like it, don't watch it" thing doesn't work for everyone. While millions of past Heroes' fans have done just that - stopped watching - there are a bunch of us that just can't. It is like an abusive relationship... you stick with it because y ou already invested so much love in it, but it just keeps hurting you even more. I have never missed an episode. I used to be a huge advocate for this show, even going as far as buying the first season for people who didn't watch it in attempts to make them fans. Now I am embarrassed. And I wait for that glorious day when I read "NBC has officially cancelled Heroes." Only then will I be put out of my misery, my misery of my weak will of not being able to let go of something that I used to love but has now (and for some time) been a big pile of garbage.
artiswar
February 9th, 2010 1:42 AM
Granted, Heroes has had there fair share of lackluster episodes but as a fan of the show since episode one, let me point some things out:
1. No matter what you watch if you're looking for crap you'll find it. 90% of a show could be excellent yet "some people" bash on the %10 they paid attention to i.e., "the crap." So this brings about the already said statement, if you don't like it DON'T WATCH IT.
2. On the bright side, things were resolved although now Claire has to create a whole new batch of problems, like always.
3. Whoever wrote the review on this show is clearly someone who does not watch the show willingly nor would care enough to see any bright side in it.
I do appreciate fair criticism and I am by no means saying Heroes is the best show on tv but to straight up bash anything is not the right way to review. People read this to get the information with a little input to make their own conclusions, not listen to whining and complaining by a reviewer about a show they don't
dude
February 9th, 2010 1:38 AM
The show got better towards the end of the season and the writers have actually given themselves an opportunity to redeem the series for a final season. Of course, this means NBC needs to get some serious talent on this thing.
Exactly how much sense do you need a show about superpowers to make?
MZBrink
February 9th, 2010 1:15 AM
It's nice to visit your site occasionally because it really is the shining example of giving a troll a megaphone. Thank you for graciously providing me with this opportunity :)
ihateclaire
February 9th, 2010 1:10 AM
um, ml house is right, this show blows. how dare claire expose everyone else cause shes a retard. she had no right. she cant die soo shes not afraid. all noah had to do was tell her she has no right to expose everyone without asking them. shes a god damn retard. very weak writing. the hrg i know would have told hiro to stop her. grabed her himself. shes weak as hell. he could have grabbed her up and put her away. claires character is the weakest of the show.
do they have different writers from season one and two? wth? its like crack..the first pull(season one) was soo wonderfull i came taking hits (watching season four and most of three) eventhough its killing just to get the same feel of the first hit again.
damn
jinuriki
February 9th, 2010 1:01 AM
Speak as a fan of the show since episode 1 having never missed a single episode. I will state that this past season was a little dissapointing but it did dwell in to characters reasoning for doing the things they do. not to mention that awesome ending, I actually can't wait for next season I just wish they would tell us what happened to some of the other Characters like Micha or his cousins
Brain
February 9th, 2010 12:49 AM
a lot of people missed the quick cut to the surgery after Ishi healed her son. I missed it the first time, myself.
Sylar's redemption has been building since 1.1, when Mohinder tracked his apartment down and found "FORGIVE ME!" scrawled 90 gillion times in the closet.
several other plot points were semi-explained in the GNs.
I'll let them speak for themselves, like Mohinder's recent bit, walking out of "Pass/Fail" and I have no idea what the f happened in that gn. he returns home, presumably Molly(s big sister) tells him where to find his gf, Mira, who has been abducted/tortured by HRG Sr(??) for no reason, he breaks down the door and they hug. wtF?
I'm going to let Tracy's story stand for itself. I'm not even touching that one.
These latter two are half the reason I let the h8rz make fools of themselves, as even a devoted fan like me can't explain some of these inane side stories.
Smashtastic
February 9th, 2010 12:01 AM
While some things were lack luster allow me to point out some important relationships that you glossed over in your criticism.
1. Sylar's transformation is not quite as much a mystery as you play it out to be if you follow the character's psychological progression throughout the entire series where his character has gone through many oscillations of good/evil. There was the time he felt he was doing good through The Company until they did him wrong and lost his trust. Or what about the flashbacks showing his ambivalence towards his "hunger" and his behavior that results from it. As many viewers should be aware Sylar has never been completely at ease with his actions. He has always had moments of regret and guilt. And through this last season he had many moments to aid to the solidification of his transformation. He did spend 5 years in the nightmare that was supposed to bring his fear of living alone for all eternity. Do you expect the writers to fill in all that five years?
bmp
February 8th, 2010 11:59 PM
if you dont like it then dont watch it!!! its that simple!
Me
February 8th, 2010 11:52 PM
What about samuel?
He was alone when he bring down the house, the police station and the town. There were no specials around him. And now he is powerless because his family left...
Matt Richenthal Rank: Staff Member
February 8th, 2010 11:35 PM
@zomgloz: thank you! I appreciate all feedback, but am especially partial to comments that flatter me :)
Other examples of how the show just makes stuff up as it goes along:
- Sylar and Peter were stuck in their dream for just a couple hours... but to make it seem like a legitimate change of heart, hey, let's say it felt like five years!
- HRG and Claire just happened to be a helicopter's ride away from Central Park. did they ride take five minutes? Five hours? Days? Who knows? Who cares?!?
- Lauren managed to remain around the carnival grounds, as she got away last week in one of the laziest examples of clueless writing ever: the show literally acknowledged it didn't know how it happened, as apparently someone with no abilities could outsmart mr. duplicating man.
- She then managed to call in favors to get a helicopter to fly Claire and HRG to NYC; and to book Samuel for... what, exactly? If they used the excuse that the earth moving was related to special effects or a gas pipe,
zomgloz
February 8th, 2010 11:29 PM
Everything is so played out already, I feel like the writers have just given up and are dicking around, wondering how long they can carry on like this before being cancelled; I applaud you for calling them on their bullshit.
My favorite part of this episode was the way the everyone just watched Claire jumped... nobody tried to stop her, they were just resigned to it. Part of me was waiting for future Scarface Peter to stop her somehow (because apparently anything goes in Heroes now).
I've decided that the best way to fix this show, would to be to hire you as a writer; I went back a few pages (because I'm a lurker, I admit it) and read your ways to fix the show, and thought they were great (especially bringing back Elle -- and I have a way to do it that makes just as much sense as the rest of the shit they try and pull).
I wouldn't be too bummed if they didn't come back, but I would miss your reviews.
AND how sick of good Sylar are you? I was sick of him season three, after
Matt Richenthal Rank: Staff Member
February 8th, 2010 11:28 PM
I'll be happy to discuss season five if NBC makes the hilarious decision to approve of one.
But have things really grown so awful for supporters of Heroes that they ignore events from a season finale and fight to argue that NEXT season is gonna be good, based on a one-minute scene from it?
What on God's beautiful green earth would possess one to have confidence this show can pull off anything interesting at this point?
andrea
February 8th, 2010 11:17 PM
I have never seen anyone as nasty as you,really.Apparently not even revealing the world that there are superpowered people out there is important. Are you even a fan? I mean criticizing is one thing, but u take it way too far.
Sylaire
February 8th, 2010 10:58 PM
What did you think about the storyline with Claire revealing herself to the world? I remember you once mentioned that you thought the show could be improved if the characters banded togehter as heroes: perhaps that could be a possibility now that Claire outed the existence of supers. I must admit though that I'm afraid the conclusion of that storyline will wind up being something along the lines of Hiro going back in time and stopping her from launching herself off of that carousel: that would royally suck.
Sylar: I can't bring Nathan back Peter, but I can sure as Hell swing a sledgehammer.
February 9th, 2010 5:58 AM
ryan, the treatment of Mohinder this season is a mystery. Sendhil has stated that he started filming like the rest of the cast in June, and at one point was asked to grow a beard, yet his character did not show up until halfway through the season, never had a beard... He was also intended to play a role in the final three episode, but was scrapped last minute - his name is still listed in the press releases, and writing him out created a plothole regarding the compass. The writers refuse to answer questions about Sendhil or Mohinder, but I'm getting the impression that things behind the scenes are not happy. Imagien you spend an entire summer on stand-by for a TV show that ends up cutting half your scenes, and writes you out of episodes at the very last minute...
February 9th, 2010 5:45 AM
i thought towards the end of the series it got a bit dissapointing, the main point when hiro, ando and suresh turned up at noahs flat saying hi at the end of one of the episodes. then mysteriously dissapearing again while noah gets captured. then when they do show up in the final episode suresh is nowhere to be seen. whats all that about
February 9th, 2010 5:42 AM
I'm actually excited for Volume 5 Brave New World! Season finale was fast and didn't have the great special effects i would like but i liked how the characters interacted. My biggest complaint is Tracy being used like mohinder. hey i'm just stopping by....I love that if the world knows about them the good guys could team up kinda like Captain America and the Avengers or Xmen and fight terrorism for the U.S. of course there will be terrorists with powers too!
February 9th, 2010 5:26 AM
Out of the ruins
out from the wreckage
can't make the same mistake this time
we are the viewers
the last ones remaining
we are the ones they left behind
and I wonder when we are ever gonna change the channel
watching crap on TV cuz nothing else remains
All the viewers say:
We don't need another Heroes
we don't need to know what Claire does
All we want is life beyond
Heroes
February 9th, 2010 4:55 AM
Okay.... so what if the heroes final wasn't that fantastic... So was the season but i think that they know what they did wrong! i say we give them at least one more chance to prove that it's the TV show it used to be!!! I mean come on it was fantastic in season 1 just hire new writers and there you go but at least one more chance seriously! :)
February 9th, 2010 2:42 AM
I have no idea how people can defend this show. Did you watch it? I understand that you are faithful, and I respect that. I'm still watching at this point. But you must realize at some point that this is terrible storytelling. And the acting is nothing to what it once was.
I've seen every episode. I've seen it get worse every episode. Tim Kring had a magical, serendipitous first season, and then he had a disappointing second season, and then show fell off a cliff. Everything said in this review was absolutely true. Should it be renewed next season, I'll do my best to avoid it.
February 9th, 2010 2:32 AM
Lol, as if your previous reviews weren't bad enough you write another poor excuse for a review which is really just a disguise for your hatred for the show.
Get a real job because your critique had moved beyond the point of valid criticism and has ventured into hateful bashing.
I thought this was the best finale the show has had.
And if you really don't like the show, why do you continue to watch it? So you can post your garbage "reviews"? There are hundreds of channels with hundreds of shows for you to "review". Let the real Heroes fans decide how good the show is or not.
On more than one occasion you have falsely accused the show of plot holes and bad writing when, in fact, it was just your ignorance and poor attention span getting in the way.
February 9th, 2010 1:51 AM
That whole "if you don't like it, don't watch it" thing doesn't work for everyone. While millions of past Heroes' fans have done just that - stopped watching - there are a bunch of us that just can't. It is like an abusive relationship... you stick with it because y ou already invested so much love in it, but it just keeps hurting you even more. I have never missed an episode. I used to be a huge advocate for this show, even going as far as buying the first season for people who didn't watch it in attempts to make them fans. Now I am embarrassed. And I wait for that glorious day when I read "NBC has officially cancelled Heroes." Only then will I be put out of my misery, my misery of my weak will of not being able to let go of something that I used to love but has now (and for some time) been a big pile of garbage.
February 9th, 2010 1:42 AM
Granted, Heroes has had there fair share of lackluster episodes but as a fan of the show since episode one, let me point some things out:
1. No matter what you watch if you're looking for crap you'll find it. 90% of a show could be excellent yet "some people" bash on the %10 they paid attention to i.e., "the crap." So this brings about the already said statement, if you don't like it DON'T WATCH IT.
2. On the bright side, things were resolved although now Claire has to create a whole new batch of problems, like always.
3. Whoever wrote the review on this show is clearly someone who does not watch the show willingly nor would care enough to see any bright side in it.
I do appreciate fair criticism and I am by no means saying Heroes is the best show on tv but to straight up bash anything is not the right way to review. People read this to get the information with a little input to make their own conclusions, not listen to whining and complaining by a reviewer about a show they don't
February 9th, 2010 1:38 AM
The show got better towards the end of the season and the writers have actually given themselves an opportunity to redeem the series for a final season. Of course, this means NBC needs to get some serious talent on this thing.
Exactly how much sense do you need a show about superpowers to make?
February 9th, 2010 1:15 AM
It's nice to visit your site occasionally because it really is the shining example of giving a troll a megaphone. Thank you for graciously providing me with this opportunity :)
February 9th, 2010 1:10 AM
um, ml house is right, this show blows. how dare claire expose everyone else cause shes a retard. she had no right. she cant die soo shes not afraid. all noah had to do was tell her she has no right to expose everyone without asking them. shes a god damn retard. very weak writing. the hrg i know would have told hiro to stop her. grabed her himself. shes weak as hell. he could have grabbed her up and put her away. claires character is the weakest of the show.
do they have different writers from season one and two? wth? its like crack..the first pull(season one) was soo wonderfull i came taking hits (watching season four and most of three) eventhough its killing just to get the same feel of the first hit again.
damn
February 9th, 2010 1:01 AM
Speak as a fan of the show since episode 1 having never missed a single episode. I will state that this past season was a little dissapointing but it did dwell in to characters reasoning for doing the things they do. not to mention that awesome ending, I actually can't wait for next season I just wish they would tell us what happened to some of the other Characters like Micha or his cousins
February 9th, 2010 12:49 AM
a lot of people missed the quick cut to the surgery after Ishi healed her son. I missed it the first time, myself.
Sylar's redemption has been building since 1.1, when Mohinder tracked his apartment down and found "FORGIVE ME!" scrawled 90 gillion times in the closet.
several other plot points were semi-explained in the GNs.
I'll let them speak for themselves, like Mohinder's recent bit, walking out of "Pass/Fail" and I have no idea what the f happened in that gn. he returns home, presumably Molly(s big sister) tells him where to find his gf, Mira, who has been abducted/tortured by HRG Sr(??) for no reason, he breaks down the door and they hug. wtF?
I'm going to let Tracy's story stand for itself. I'm not even touching that one.
These latter two are half the reason I let the h8rz make fools of themselves, as even a devoted fan like me can't explain some of these inane side stories.
February 9th, 2010 12:01 AM
While some things were lack luster allow me to point out some important relationships that you glossed over in your criticism.
1. Sylar's transformation is not quite as much a mystery as you play it out to be if you follow the character's psychological progression throughout the entire series where his character has gone through many oscillations of good/evil. There was the time he felt he was doing good through The Company until they did him wrong and lost his trust. Or what about the flashbacks showing his ambivalence towards his "hunger" and his behavior that results from it. As many viewers should be aware Sylar has never been completely at ease with his actions. He has always had moments of regret and guilt. And through this last season he had many moments to aid to the solidification of his transformation. He did spend 5 years in the nightmare that was supposed to bring his fear of living alone for all eternity. Do you expect the writers to fill in all that five years?
February 8th, 2010 11:59 PM
if you dont like it then dont watch it!!! its that simple!
February 8th, 2010 11:52 PM
What about samuel?
He was alone when he bring down the house, the police station and the town. There were no specials around him. And now he is powerless because his family left...
Rank: Staff Member
February 8th, 2010 11:35 PM
@zomgloz: thank you! I appreciate all feedback, but am especially partial to comments that flatter me :)
Other examples of how the show just makes stuff up as it goes along:
- Sylar and Peter were stuck in their dream for just a couple hours... but to make it seem like a legitimate change of heart, hey, let's say it felt like five years!
- HRG and Claire just happened to be a helicopter's ride away from Central Park. did they ride take five minutes? Five hours? Days? Who knows? Who cares?!?
- Lauren managed to remain around the carnival grounds, as she got away last week in one of the laziest examples of clueless writing ever: the show literally acknowledged it didn't know how it happened, as apparently someone with no abilities could outsmart mr. duplicating man.
- She then managed to call in favors to get a helicopter to fly Claire and HRG to NYC; and to book Samuel for... what, exactly? If they used the excuse that the earth moving was related to special effects or a gas pipe,
February 8th, 2010 11:29 PM
Everything is so played out already, I feel like the writers have just given up and are dicking around, wondering how long they can carry on like this before being cancelled; I applaud you for calling them on their bullshit.
My favorite part of this episode was the way the everyone just watched Claire jumped... nobody tried to stop her, they were just resigned to it. Part of me was waiting for future Scarface Peter to stop her somehow (because apparently anything goes in Heroes now).
I've decided that the best way to fix this show, would to be to hire you as a writer; I went back a few pages (because I'm a lurker, I admit it) and read your ways to fix the show, and thought they were great (especially bringing back Elle -- and I have a way to do it that makes just as much sense as the rest of the shit they try and pull).
I wouldn't be too bummed if they didn't come back, but I would miss your reviews.
AND how sick of good Sylar are you? I was sick of him season three, after
Rank: Staff Member
February 8th, 2010 11:28 PM
I'll be happy to discuss season five if NBC makes the hilarious decision to approve of one.
But have things really grown so awful for supporters of Heroes that they ignore events from a season finale and fight to argue that NEXT season is gonna be good, based on a one-minute scene from it?
What on God's beautiful green earth would possess one to have confidence this show can pull off anything interesting at this point?
February 8th, 2010 11:17 PM
I have never seen anyone as nasty as you,really.Apparently not even revealing the world that there are superpowered people out there is important. Are you even a fan? I mean criticizing is one thing, but u take it way too far.
February 8th, 2010 10:58 PM
What did you think about the storyline with Claire revealing herself to the world? I remember you once mentioned that you thought the show could be improved if the characters banded togehter as heroes: perhaps that could be a possibility now that Claire outed the existence of supers. I must admit though that I'm afraid the conclusion of that storyline will wind up being something along the lines of Hiro going back in time and stopping her from launching herself off of that carousel: that would royally suck.