I like Lumen, except its difficult accepting a character knowing she's only temporary, and not a permanent fixture of the show. The fact they still cast credit her as 'special guest star' makes me think she either bails, or gets killed, before the end of this season. What I want to see is Dexter have an intimate interest in her, and see her carry on to the next season. She's a good character, even if she does overact a little. Impulsive, thoughtless, fearful, and angry, she's Dexter's total opposite. I love it!
meh
November 15th, 2010 10:09 AM
Up until this episode, I might agree on the side plots. However, I am intrigued with what is going to happen with this Debra-Laguerta thing. Especially glad that Batista seems to be doing the right thing, as well. I think they could redeem themselves with the side plots this season. Beating the Trinity story line will be a challenge though, no question.
Matt Richenthal Rank: Staff Member
November 15th, 2010 9:57 AM
@meh: Good call on the cell phone/belongings from the hotel. I forgot about that.
It's very possible that I'm down on Stiles/Lumen due to the impossibility of following Lithgow/Trinity. In that regard, I wish the show didn't even try to have another major guest star, as there's just no way anyone could compare.
It does see baffling that it can't find ANYthing interesting to do with supporting characters, though, doesn't it?
User
November 15th, 2010 9:52 AM
Yeah, is there anybody not tired of seeing Laguerta on the screen?
I think meh is probably right about the cell phone thing. Didn't think about that.
meh
November 15th, 2010 9:48 AM
I will admit that there are certain events that happen in this season that feel just a little bit too convenient. One of those being the whole thing with the nanny. The thing with the phone is not a plot hole, however. When Dexter first rescued Lumen he found her belongings that the motel had stored after she didn't pay her boarding. I am sure it is possible her phone was with those things and Dexter eventually returned it to her once he trusted her. I don't hold the opinion that there are plot holes that "break" the plot. The stuff about the hotel room is a valid concern, but we have yet to see if they do anything with that. I can understand if your personal taste prevents you from enjoying this season as much as others. Not everyone is going to like Julia Stiles or every direction a show goes, but I do think they are sticking to what makes the show good, and keeping it entertaining. Your complaints about the side plots in this season are complaints I had with season 4. Of course, it
User
November 15th, 2010 9:46 AM
You can get a new cell phone and keep the same number.
I don't remember exactly how Cole busted through the door. Did he break the door or just knock it off its hinges. The latter is a quick fix.
I'll give you the hotel camera complaint. Not sure of a way around that one.
Regardless, are you really that hung up on these details? I've noticed some other "plot holes" this season as well, but I find them to be relatively insignificant.
Really? You don't like Lumen? You must have really hated Rita.
I like the whole show. I like the twist with Lumen. Makes me wonder where this is going.
Matt Richenthal Rank: Staff Member
November 15th, 2010 9:30 AM
@meh: You make very good points about the over-arching theme, but my simple response is ironically the same as your user name: meh.
I simply find this season to be boring. That's all there is to it. Very little feels at stake, more so than ever with the supporting characters, all of which feel like pure filler in order to save Michael C. Hall from being in ever scene.
I also don't think sticking to a theme is an excuse for sloppy writing. It's not nit-picking to state that there's no way Lumen would have her cell phone. The series changed show runner hands at the conclusion of season four and such plot holes such as this have been more noticeable since, unfortunately.
meh
November 15th, 2010 9:14 AM
Has this reviewer been watching the series? I mean seriously. The whole over-arching theme of the series is Dexter's desire to be normal, or at least find a balance between what he wants in life and what his "dark passenger" wants. Lumen is a beautifully ironic but perfect candidate to explore Dexter's desire to truly connect with someone at the most intimate level. Admittedly, the timing of events is a little convenient for the story, but that is forgivable in my opinion. Nit-Picking Dexter's actions is pointless because a recurring theme of the series is how he makes more mistakes as he explores this part of him that could be "human." As we see Dexter get closer to someone than ever before we see some major changes in his execution. We don't know how that will all pan out yet, but it is obvious from the last scene of this episode that his carelessness is going to catch up with him. Please stop criticizing the show when it stays true to its central theme. If Dexter never explored this
Samee Islam Rank: New User
November 15th, 2010 8:43 AM
Wow, you completely underrated this episode. It's like you're LOOKING for things to moan about.
Vanessa
November 15th, 2010 7:15 AM
I actually really like Lumen and her storyline. I hope the relationship between her and Dexter continues. It's nice seeing him being open with someone, especially after the last few seasons where it was just Dexter taking care of himself
Dexter : Don't be sorry your darkness is gone. I'll carry if for you - always. I'll keep it with mine,
November 15th, 2010 12:54 PM
I like Lumen, except its difficult accepting a character knowing she's only temporary, and not a permanent fixture of the show. The fact they still cast credit her as 'special guest star' makes me think she either bails, or gets killed, before the end of this season. What I want to see is Dexter have an intimate interest in her, and see her carry on to the next season. She's a good character, even if she does overact a little. Impulsive, thoughtless, fearful, and angry, she's Dexter's total opposite. I love it!
November 15th, 2010 10:09 AM
Up until this episode, I might agree on the side plots. However, I am intrigued with what is going to happen with this Debra-Laguerta thing. Especially glad that Batista seems to be doing the right thing, as well. I think they could redeem themselves with the side plots this season. Beating the Trinity story line will be a challenge though, no question.
Rank: Staff Member
November 15th, 2010 9:57 AM
@meh: Good call on the cell phone/belongings from the hotel. I forgot about that.
It's very possible that I'm down on Stiles/Lumen due to the impossibility of following Lithgow/Trinity. In that regard, I wish the show didn't even try to have another major guest star, as there's just no way anyone could compare.
It does see baffling that it can't find ANYthing interesting to do with supporting characters, though, doesn't it?
November 15th, 2010 9:52 AM
Yeah, is there anybody not tired of seeing Laguerta on the screen?
I think meh is probably right about the cell phone thing. Didn't think about that.
November 15th, 2010 9:48 AM
I will admit that there are certain events that happen in this season that feel just a little bit too convenient. One of those being the whole thing with the nanny. The thing with the phone is not a plot hole, however. When Dexter first rescued Lumen he found her belongings that the motel had stored after she didn't pay her boarding. I am sure it is possible her phone was with those things and Dexter eventually returned it to her once he trusted her. I don't hold the opinion that there are plot holes that "break" the plot. The stuff about the hotel room is a valid concern, but we have yet to see if they do anything with that. I can understand if your personal taste prevents you from enjoying this season as much as others. Not everyone is going to like Julia Stiles or every direction a show goes, but I do think they are sticking to what makes the show good, and keeping it entertaining. Your complaints about the side plots in this season are complaints I had with season 4. Of course, it
November 15th, 2010 9:46 AM
You can get a new cell phone and keep the same number.
I don't remember exactly how Cole busted through the door. Did he break the door or just knock it off its hinges. The latter is a quick fix.
I'll give you the hotel camera complaint. Not sure of a way around that one.
Regardless, are you really that hung up on these details? I've noticed some other "plot holes" this season as well, but I find them to be relatively insignificant.
Really? You don't like Lumen? You must have really hated Rita.
Rank: New User
November 15th, 2010 9:38 AM
I like the whole show. I like the twist with Lumen. Makes me wonder where this is going.
Rank: Staff Member
November 15th, 2010 9:30 AM
@meh: You make very good points about the over-arching theme, but my simple response is ironically the same as your user name: meh.
I simply find this season to be boring. That's all there is to it. Very little feels at stake, more so than ever with the supporting characters, all of which feel like pure filler in order to save Michael C. Hall from being in ever scene.
I also don't think sticking to a theme is an excuse for sloppy writing. It's not nit-picking to state that there's no way Lumen would have her cell phone. The series changed show runner hands at the conclusion of season four and such plot holes such as this have been more noticeable since, unfortunately.
November 15th, 2010 9:14 AM
Has this reviewer been watching the series? I mean seriously. The whole over-arching theme of the series is Dexter's desire to be normal, or at least find a balance between what he wants in life and what his "dark passenger" wants. Lumen is a beautifully ironic but perfect candidate to explore Dexter's desire to truly connect with someone at the most intimate level. Admittedly, the timing of events is a little convenient for the story, but that is forgivable in my opinion. Nit-Picking Dexter's actions is pointless because a recurring theme of the series is how he makes more mistakes as he explores this part of him that could be "human." As we see Dexter get closer to someone than ever before we see some major changes in his execution. We don't know how that will all pan out yet, but it is obvious from the last scene of this episode that his carelessness is going to catch up with him. Please stop criticizing the show when it stays true to its central theme. If Dexter never explored this
Rank: New User
November 15th, 2010 8:43 AM
Wow, you completely underrated this episode. It's like you're LOOKING for things to moan about.
November 15th, 2010 7:15 AM
I actually really like Lumen and her storyline. I hope the relationship between her and Dexter continues. It's nice seeing him being open with someone, especially after the last few seasons where it was just Dexter taking care of himself