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December 7th, 2010 12:09 AM
Hi Bloop,
You are an amazingly rude person yourself! Consider that before pointing a finger at me. I never claimed that my posts are free of typographical errors. I am also human, BUT the gargantuan difference here is, my posts may have two or three errors, whereas other posts will have a thousand and one errors. So, if I made one error, it is forgivable. I do not need lessons on English or Grammar, especially from you! Secondly, PLEASE don't talk to me about linguistics! I speak in a formal sort of way---that's me. You have absolutely no right to point out 'commendable' as a wrong word to use, because it is a widely accepted English word, which is used in common parlance by most people who are native speakers of English. So unless you are a hippie or a weirdo who has made a habit of diluting and showing contempt for the English language, please note that whatever I have written does not have a disclaimer notice below it...From next time I shall consider adding this as a dis
December 6th, 2010 11:59 PM
@Rose I'm not saying you can't have an opinion. I'm just saying you should do it decently without name calling. And I know it's not me your attacking but nonetheless I feel like I'm a part of a group here, so no one in this group should be called names because there spelling isn't perfect or they say things that you can't resonate with. Like you said, everyone should have an opinion. Even if you don't think it sounds intelligent.
December 6th, 2010 11:54 PM
@bloop
Thank you. That's all I'm going to say about that.
Anyways I do agree with you on many points. The first being the following: the characters on Grey's are flawed. That's why I love them. They allow me (and other viewers I hope) to connect with said characters because life isn't always hunky dory. Heck, 75% of the time, life really sucks. These are characters who are built on imperfections in such a great way that I can only applaud the writers.
Second: The Meredith and Owen tension was bound to erupt. Both of them have reached there breaking point and they were both going to crack. Both of them miss Christina; Owen wants his wife back and Meredith wants her soul mate back. Because as mentioned, Meredith is barely hanging on, even though she doesn't realize it yet. She needs Christina to be okay. If Christina's crashes, then she crashes as well. Christina holds her up. And as people in the real world do, Owen and Meredith argued. The glass broke. I get it. But I still believ
December 6th, 2010 11:48 PM
Dear KP,
I never knew that you feel so strongly about all this...Honestly, I had no intentions of hurting any feelings! I am not trying to prove any point. This is just a matter of perception. I think Derek's character is great. You may not...But at the end of the day, this is JUST A SHOW! Right? Secondly, there are people out here who write utter nonsense. It is not necessarily your posts. So why take it personally? Do you think that analysis of episodes by the average viewer is ever accurate? Are you a critic? The answer to both is no! I jotted down my opinions, you jotted down yours! Whatever happened to freedom of speech?
December 6th, 2010 10:02 PM
Dear Rose,
I do agree with you in one point: GA is a show where the characters are depicted realistically, they make mistakes, they are flawed, but they also grow - and yes, as adults they have disputes, professional and personal ones.
I can only speak for myself (but I do think that many people on this forum agree) when I say that I do see that Owen and Meredith were both just trying to stand up for what they believe is the best thing for a person they both love. Yes, situations like that come up between adults and yes, it was depicted in a very emotional, realistic way.
But acknowledging that does not mean you can't have - and voice - your own opinion about it. After all, that's what these forums are there for!
On another note, do you really think leading with "take no offence" makes the fact that you mock both people's English and their intellect any less offensive??
First of all, the 'writers' are called 'writers' here, because they are referred to like that anywhere w
December 6th, 2010 9:50 PM
@Rose
This is a television show. Meaning people will have opinions. Often times, those opinions will clash. So I find it rude that you would feel the need to call us "idiots" because we point out the flaws we believe appear on the show. Flaws we have the right to point out on this website. There is great beauty on this show and there is great tragedy, that everyone can agree on. But unlike you, not all of us want to discuss how "beautiful" Derek is inside and out or how adult like the Meredith and Owen situation was played out. Last time I checked, being a mature adult does not mean yelling at someone to get out of the OR in the middle of surgery.
December 6th, 2010 3:53 AM
First of all people...Take no offence, but some comments here seriously need corrections--they are full of typographical errors and silly spelling mistakes, which would make it really difficult for you guys to get your comments across to the 'writers', as one person calls them. One more thing-- do you guys really think that off-hand wise-cracks on how the 'writers' of the show (I found this hilarious, creative heads or scriptwriters would have been better) are ruining it, are appreciated? This is a show where the characters have grown together, come closer together...look at how sensitive and mature Alex Karev, the eternal playboy has come to become. Some people here who are masters at publishing wise-cracks online may think he is a 'loser', but then, its all about a mature perception. Look at how beautiful Derek is, inside out. Its his turn now to help Christina, and he is doing all he can, and commendably so. Look at Meredith--she may be 'dark and twisty', but her character is worthy
December 6th, 2010 12:27 AM
I'm so glad Mark and Lexie seem to be getting back together. They've been my favourite couple since they got together and they're the only reason I kept watching during season 6. So I definitely think Mark is the better match for her! I do love Jackson though. I'm not sure who he should be with, but I hope he gets a good love interest (that isn't Lexie--I hate love triangles, and Mark/Lexie already went through that one). I've always liked the idea of Jackson/Cristina, but I know the writers are pretty set on Cristina/Hunt. Maybe April? I dislike how platonic relationships are practically impossible in Grey's land, but April/Jackson would still be cute.
December 5th, 2010 10:47 PM
Am I the only one who likes Lexie with Jackson?! Teehee.
December 5th, 2010 6:47 PM
I can't really tell who is wrong and who is right, regarding the Owen/Mer breakout, I can see both sides...
Still, I don't think Owen has the right to tell Meredith to stay away from Cristina. Owen might be married to her, but still, Meredith knows her much better and for much longer, and even though they're not talking right now, Mer is Cris' soulmate. And I don't think that Mer is reckless (anymore). She has grown a lot those past years, and the situation in the OR with the shooter, well, Owen more then anybody else should know what an extraordinary and traumatic situation and Mer wasn't herself. It took her years to get to the point where she had this stable happy relationship with Derek and finally allowed herself to be happy in that relationship, she was pregnant (and even happy about it, who would've ever imagined that??) and the man she loved was lying there with a whole in his chest and on the verge of dying. She was in shock!! Her reaction wasn't rational!! It was just all
Rank: Guest Star
December 5th, 2010 1:16 PM
1. Christina and Derek (I just realized that how Awful name is Derrrreek :P)Anyways, Christina and Derek chemistry was Awesome and the dialogues were really quirky and funny. Christina looking at her hands while holding a Trout was Amazing... their were no dialogues but it put the whole picture in-front of you I think (Christina is Back).
2. Owen & Meredith Both miss Christina and one way or another they blame each other so I liked that finally they Came face to face (Intense)
3. Who can say no to McSteamy ? Lexie really got some balls (Not literally)but eventually a Kiss patch them together though I'm assuming McBlue Eyed can give a Competition ."Rumors has it that Gorgeous Rachael Taylor (Transformers 1 - yes there was another girl besides Stunning MEGAN FOX)has been cast as Dr./Love interest for Jackson".
4. Loved the whole New Butt case and Callie N Alex had their funny moments. Well Arizona is Back (If someone didn't knew, she was on Marital leave, So, I knew she wil
December 5th, 2010 1:08 PM
I guess we will have to agree to disagree. Because it doesn't make any sense to me that he was wrong this time just because he was wrong last time. If you hold that standard, no one can tell anyone what to do because everyone has done wrong at some point. The 2 instances are not related.
As for the time with Jackson, it is likely he kicked her out and not him because he had already warned her about her disrespect during that surgery. Jackson wasn't trying to be disrespectful. Meredith had been giving him crap all day and then undermined him in the OR twice. He was right to kick her.
December 5th, 2010 11:24 AM
I guess adults acting like kids never happens on this show so spare me on that one. All of them know right from wrong and every last one of them at one time or another has crossed the line and put people's life at risk. I never said Mer didn't deserve punishment, my point was that maybe if the attending hadn't first acted unprofessionally in the past then maybe the resident would not have been so inclined to do it herself and all this could have been avoided.
Whether you agree with or not, yes, she's following the very example he set. If you're pissed at someone you're allowed to bring that in the OR. Yes, it would have been nice if Mer could have risen above that kind of petty behavior but no, she choose to act unprofessionally for personal reasons. She acted just like him, the only difference is that one is the attending and one is the resident so the punishments would have been different, but the actions taken were not.
What if that day when he dismissed her from the OR for
December 5th, 2010 9:46 AM
can the people who are talking about how owen was right just go back to episode 7x09 and watch the scene where he and jackson were in the OR and the patient started bleeding out and jackson grabbed the clamp to control the bleed and owen told him not to and that he will do it and jakcson did it anyway and he did not get thrown out of the OR owen actually told him "nice work"!!!. Meanwhile in this situation the patient was not bleeding he was stable and she wanted to practice her skills she was not being bad ass or showing off like most of the residents do all the time and the attendings let them because they know how driven the are . so please can u just stop making owen like some kind of a victim here and i am not saying that mer is the victim either but he didn't kick her out because of the stitch, he kicked her out because he was being unprofessional and because he was irritated by meredith judgement of him.
December 5th, 2010 9:46 AM
can the people talking about how owen was right just go back to episode 7x09 and watch the scene where he and jackson were in the OR and the patient started bleeding out and jackson grabbed the clamp to control the bleed and owen told him not to and that he will do it and jakcson did it anyway and he did not get thrown out of the OR owen actually told him "nice work"!!!. Meanwhile in this situation the patient was not bleeding he was stable and she wanted to practice her skills she was not being bad ass or showing off like most of the residents do all the time and the attendings let them because they know how driven the are . so please can u just stop making owen like some kind of a victim here and i am not saying that mer is the victim either but he didn't kick her out because of the stitch, he kicked her out because he was being unprofessional and because he was irritated by meredith judgement of him.
Rank: Regular Character
December 5th, 2010 7:23 AM
That moment between Meredith and Owen regarding Cristina was so intense. It's like you can't help but get frustrated at the both of them because you think that they're both out of line. I don't know how they're going to resolve this but I think it was a very good angle for the writers to go through. Like who is right -- the husband she married right after the trauma or the best friend who was possibly the cause of her going through that trauma. It's exciting to see in what direction this story is going to be in next. Still, that moment wherein Cristina was holding her trout and crying was absolutely beautiful. You could tell it was something monumental for the character.
As for the storyline with Teddy, first of all I find it really great how she's so invested in Cristina. I don't think any of her other mentors have had such a deep interest in her development as a doctor. It's a beautiful thing to see that a teacher is so invested in a student and affected by that student's downfall
December 5th, 2010 4:31 AM
It isn't about petty games, like who did what the last time. The situations are different anyway. She took an unnecessary risk with a person's life. When people's lives are on the line, you don't play those types of games. She can also jeopardize his career if something goes wrong, because he is the one that will be held accountable. Undermining him in his OR can cost people their lives. He has every right to levy punishment. Any other attending would have.
You speak as if she is a child that doesn't know right from wrong. She knows that isn't the right thing to do, she did it anyway and she suffered the consequences. She wasn't following anyone's example, she did it because she wanted to.
December 5th, 2010 3:03 AM
It has everything to do with the last time because the attendings are suppose to set the example, not be hypocrites. If you actually read what I said, I already said Mer stepped out of line but its kinda hard to levy punishment when you your self set the precedent for how to act unprofessionally in an OR. No one called Owen on his crap though, he got away with it because he was the attending. He used his position of power. Hey though, i'm glad he was in the ready though to call Mer on her crap. How dare he let her get away with the same unprofessional behavior that he himself did.
The example is set from the top. Its hard to gain respect when you don't give it. Mer stepped out of line and made it personal in Owen's OR. She disrespected him. So yes, Owen was right, Mer was out of line. Unfortunately though, she was only following the example that he had set. Maybe if he hadn't opened that can of worms she doesn't act that way in his OR, but he did so as I said before they are both to
December 4th, 2010 10:32 PM
She deserved to get kicked out and he kicked her out. I don't see what the last time has to do with it. Last time he was wrong, this time he was right. He even gave her a warning. Any of the other attendings, except maybe Derek, would have kicked her out for that type of disrespect.
December 4th, 2010 7:42 PM
I get why people see Meredith side more than Owen's. The writers have the annoying habit of making Meredith look bad. Last season it was with the Chief's drinking, Derek was rigth, Meredith was wrong. Now it was with how to handle Cristina. Meredith was proven once again to be wrong, when is Derek's method that facilitates a breakthrough in Cristina struggle. We the audience see this as the writers not being fair to the character of Meredith. The writers need to stop protecting the male characters and they need to stop throwing Meredith under bus to make the male character look like heros.
December 4th, 2010 6:23 PM
I would buy that excuse for Owen putting Mer in her place if he hadn't made it personal before in the past. Last season when he thought Mer told Cristina about him and Teddy he kept her out the OR. In my view he opened that can of worms last season for making it personal in the OR and this time Mer did the same thing back. She wasn't being disrespectful the first time, she was acting as a resident listening to her attending and he made it personal. He set the precedent. He can't have it both ways anymore than she can.
What happened in that OR this past episode has been building for a while, it doesn't have to do with what just happened that day. Mer doesn't have great trust in Owen because of what happened last season and she feels she knows Cristina better and Owen isn't crazy about Mer because he feels she has to big of an influence on Cristina and a lot of times her word has come over his in Cristina's mind.
They aren't crazy about each other, plain and simple. They have tri
Rank: Guest Star
December 4th, 2010 4:57 PM
Oh and Owen did said that he didn't want Meredith's "recklessness" around Cristina, he basically told Meredith that she wasn't good enough to be Cristina's friends.
I wonder if when Cristina comes back Meredith is going to stay away from Cristina because of what Owen told her and how Cristina is going to handle that?
I'm going to laugh so hard if Meredith cuts Cristina off because of what Owen said.
Rank: Guest Star
December 4th, 2010 4:51 PM
Someone who is constantly worrying about some else is not fearless.
Meredith is constantly worrying about her makeshift family, the writer's words.
Rank: Leading Character
December 4th, 2010 4:48 PM
I was rooting for Callie during the door thing.
I would shut the door on Arizona anytime after she left.
December 4th, 2010 1:49 PM
I think in the OR, Owen was 100% right. If I were him, I wouldn't have given her the first warning. That was blatant disrespect on her part, both times. Taking unnecessary risks can cost people their lives. He is the one that is going to be held accountable for anything that goes wrong, so he should be able to do it his way, without question.
As far as their argument goes, I agreed and disagreed with both sides on parts. But some people seem to think he doesn't have a right to defend himself and has to just take her being disrespectful and blaming him. Yes, it is understandable that she lashes out, but it is also understandable that he lashed out back at her. He tried to be nice in the beginning and she threw that back in his face, so he doesn't have to be nice after that. If you dish it out, you have to be able to take it as well. If she can tell him what she thinks about him and his approach it isn't wrong that he does the same to her. I like Meredith much more than I d