The Vampire Diaries Clip: Is Stefan Really Gone? Comments (Page 2)
29 Comments
Groffles love Rank: Regular Character
September 22nd, 2011 3:14 AM
"Ok I know that Damon killed Lexi but the way that was because he was protecting stefan and himself like san has said..."
Are we watching the same show? Damon killed and murdered Lexie, for himself. So no one thought it was him who was killing everyone, even though it was. Damon was selfish. Don't try and sugar coat what he did. It was evil. Stefan watched his best friend die. Much like what Stefan did was evil. However, Damon's was worse.
"What Stefan did to Andy was out of spite."
Seriously. Are we watching the same show? It was because Klaus was going to kill Damon if he didn't stop following them. There was no spite. It was sick and twisted but it was to protect Damon. Of course it wasn't a good thing, but it was definitely not for his personal benefit, unlike Damon's murder. It was, once again, to protect Damon, Elena and everyone else at Mystic Falls.
"He could have done something else to get the message home..."
I don't really think of Stefan being permanently gone. Klaus is messing with
Stefan's mind that's causing him to act evil under his stupid own rules. I would mostly want Klaus to be dead already and get the hell out of Mystic Falls cause he's done already enough mischief that it's pissing me off. I hope that Stefan will return to his normal self later on in the season or else it's another fact that makes the show topsy turvy. Episode 1 was sure a big season blowout. XD =) =P
Sa'ad702 Rank: Regular Character
September 21st, 2011 1:42 PM
Ok I know that Damon killed Lexi but the way that was because he was protecting stefan and himself like san has said... What Stefan did to Andy was out of spite. He could have done something else to get the message home... He killed someone that grounded Damon, made him more human. Under the anger, Damon liked Andy. Damon killed people that stefan grew close to, cuz he thought that Stefan was trying to steal Katherine, but he found out that Katherine compelled him and that it wasn't real.
I kinda hate stefan right now and I hope that elena doesn't take him back with open arms when he comes back. Maybe she chooses him eventually, but not at first....
MrsBass (aka Jov) Rank: Regular Character
September 21st, 2011 1:19 PM
Damon killed Lexi and Jeremy, yet Stefan gets shit on?
I hate fangirls.
Samantha
September 21st, 2011 12:39 PM
Damon and Elena should end up together. I think they would make a really cute couple. The percentage of Stefan coming back is 52%. The percentage of Damon and Elena ending up together is 67%. If Stefan does come back Damon will end up dead.
bamboodo Rank: Guest Star
September 21st, 2011 11:45 AM
let me refresh u about Lexie's death. Damon killed her by using a stake to her heart in front of Stefan and Elena. so who's worse? Lexie didn't do anything to be dead like that. she's the lovelinest vampire i'd ever watched! and she's his brother's best friend! she's the girl who came to Stefan's rescue when he's desperate. Damon knew all that but he didn't regret doing that at all. it's not a matter of being fair!! who killed who? i know Stefan did think a lot before doing that to Andie. but he had to. Poor Stefan!
guinea
September 21st, 2011 11:40 AM
I think people need to stop hating on anyone. Everyone has their own thought process.
So what if Elena thinks that finding Stefan is more important than Andie dying? She was never close to Andie and although Damon liked Andie, it's not like he truly cared about her. Elena doesn't need to sympathize with everyone. She has her own life issues and has the right to focus on them. Plus, Stefan did call her. And don't tell me you didn't feel the incredible amount of love during that phone scene. I cried for both of them.
Yes, Damon killed Lexi. Damon was mean, bad, borderline evil (nowhere near Klaus, but borderline). He's changed. It doesn't excuse what he's done in the past, but he's trying to be better. Right now he's bitter, so it makes sense that he would try to convince Elena that Stefan is gone. He only saw the Ripper and not Stefan.
And Stefan? Well, just like Damon, there's no excuse to killing, but if Damon can be forgiven, then why can't Stefan? Right now he shouldn't be
Groffles love Rank: Regular Character
September 21st, 2011 11:17 AM
Damon killing Lexie was SO much worse than Stefan killing Andie. Damon did it for selfish reasons, Stefan did it for selfless reasons. Of course killing is wrong in all cases, if you're going to compare the two, what Damon did was a lot worse. Lexie happened to be Stefan's greatest, dearest and best friend for over 100 years. Andie? She was Damon's toy and he did rape her. He compelled her to love him, and she was just a distraction for whenever she got bored. It was brainwash. Hell, in just episode 19 he was about to kill her himself. He was upset at her death, sure, but I think he was more upset about what Stefan had become. I don't think he ever truly cared for Andie. There was no connection.
Then the actual reasons behind the killings were a lot different too. Stefan had to kill Andie, so that Damon would stop looking for him, therefore protecting him from death aka KLAUS. Damon killed Lexie so that the council wouldn't think it was him who had killed all of the humans (even th
cupidity Rank: Extra
September 21st, 2011 10:13 AM
Damon killing Lexi was strategic. He did it to gain the council's trust and protect his and Stefan's secret. What did killing Andie get Stefan?
cupidity Rank: Extra
September 21st, 2011 10:12 AM
I get that Stefan feels incredibly guilty for what he is doing what Klaus is making him do but was any of it really necessary? The excuse is that he is doing all this to keep his loved ones(Damon and Elena) safe, but is it justified to kill all these people just to save two? The whole reason he agreed to work with Klaus was to save Damon, but his brother had lived for over 100 years. Although I am a huge Damon and Dalena fan even I dont think that poor girl Stefan killed in last seasons finale to prove his loyalty to Klaus deserved to die in Damon's place let alone all the people he killed over the summer. And dont even get me started on Andie. There was absolutely no need to kill her just to ensure Dalena stopped looking for him.
manty
September 21st, 2011 8:29 AM
@san,dat's nt enuf reason 4 damon to killed lexi,wat's there if stefan killed andy,fair is fair.
San
September 21st, 2011 8:08 AM
When Damon killed Lexie he was desperate. Sheriff Forbes and the others knew there was a Vampire in town, so - for Damon - it came down to "my brother or that annoying girl or me"! That wasn't evil, that was math.
Ok, it was evil, but killing your brothers girlfriend in front of his eyes when there's absolutely no need for it... not cool.
But, actually, I like the darker side of Stefan ;-) With Elena he was kind of whiny and boring, now he gets interesting.
bamboodo Rank: Guest Star
September 21st, 2011 6:11 AM
all u guys totally forgot about a "devilish Damon" who used to kill someone Stefan really cared about, Lexie sans any regrets.he even did to serve his selfish malicious purpose!! don't blame Stefan for doing that. he's trying to protect his love ones, including Damon! i thought Elena's reaction was just normal. she'll forgive him like she does to Damon. that's why i love Stelena so much. Stelene shippers always!!
Ruthie
September 21st, 2011 1:53 AM
I knew Elena would be tough to take this season,bt,now,I know she will piss me off,,
quinn
September 21st, 2011 12:00 AM
omg! i hate elena in this clip....why is she so selfish? oh yeah sorry damon andie died...oh yeah and stefan killed her! ohhh but he called me and even though he didn't say anything....its more important
whateva
September 20th, 2011 9:09 PM
@ Uncle Jackass
Spike did consider himself to be evil hence his frustration over liking Buffy and in fact the no soul portion is what made them evil as vampires in Buffy were considered to be a form of demon. Also both Spike, Angelus, Darla, and Drusilla were not typical vampires as in Buffyverse most vamps were dumb and the Fab Four were quite intelligent.
Uncle Jackass Rank: Regular Character
September 20th, 2011 8:18 PM
We only see the universe as we see it.
Analogies with both Spike and Damon characters, I don't believe that these characters ever thought that they were actually evil; in comparison to the brooding Stefan, like Angel. They were just staying true to their nature. In the novels the constant invitation from Damon to Elena to be his "Princess of Darkness" was just no different from proposing a happily vampire ever after scenario. Admittedly, it would probably the same killing, feeding, etc on the bender...
On the other-hand, the series version does portray a lot of characters with judgmental personalities; I suppose the line between who lives and dies has been drawn.
Millie
September 20th, 2011 6:45 PM
Seriously right? Andie just freakin' died, that's horrible news, show some respect. I enjoy the show well enough but sometimes Elena's little-picture whinyness gets to be a little too much.
OMGQT Rank: Regular Character
September 20th, 2011 5:12 PM
very sensitive from u elena, very sensitive :] .. andie is dead - oh ok, stefan called me ... srsly wtf
Elena : I just want to kill her. It's that simple.
Rank: Regular Character
September 22nd, 2011 3:14 AM
"Ok I know that Damon killed Lexi but the way that was because he was protecting stefan and himself like san has said..."
Are we watching the same show? Damon killed and murdered Lexie, for himself. So no one thought it was him who was killing everyone, even though it was. Damon was selfish. Don't try and sugar coat what he did. It was evil. Stefan watched his best friend die. Much like what Stefan did was evil. However, Damon's was worse.
"What Stefan did to Andy was out of spite."
Seriously. Are we watching the same show? It was because Klaus was going to kill Damon if he didn't stop following them. There was no spite. It was sick and twisted but it was to protect Damon. Of course it wasn't a good thing, but it was definitely not for his personal benefit, unlike Damon's murder. It was, once again, to protect Damon, Elena and everyone else at Mystic Falls.
"He could have done something else to get the message home..."
Of course he could have. He could have simply to
Rank: Regular Character
September 21st, 2011 5:47 PM
I don't really think of Stefan being permanently gone. Klaus is messing with
Stefan's mind that's causing him to act evil under his stupid own rules. I would mostly want Klaus to be dead already and get the hell out of Mystic Falls cause he's done already enough mischief that it's pissing me off. I hope that Stefan will return to his normal self later on in the season or else it's another fact that makes the show topsy turvy. Episode 1 was sure a big season blowout. XD =) =P
Rank: Regular Character
September 21st, 2011 1:42 PM
Ok I know that Damon killed Lexi but the way that was because he was protecting stefan and himself like san has said... What Stefan did to Andy was out of spite. He could have done something else to get the message home... He killed someone that grounded Damon, made him more human. Under the anger, Damon liked Andy. Damon killed people that stefan grew close to, cuz he thought that Stefan was trying to steal Katherine, but he found out that Katherine compelled him and that it wasn't real.
I kinda hate stefan right now and I hope that elena doesn't take him back with open arms when he comes back. Maybe she chooses him eventually, but not at first....
Rank: Regular Character
September 21st, 2011 1:19 PM
Damon killed Lexi and Jeremy, yet Stefan gets shit on?
I hate fangirls.
September 21st, 2011 12:39 PM
Damon and Elena should end up together. I think they would make a really cute couple. The percentage of Stefan coming back is 52%. The percentage of Damon and Elena ending up together is 67%. If Stefan does come back Damon will end up dead.
Rank: Guest Star
September 21st, 2011 11:45 AM
let me refresh u about Lexie's death. Damon killed her by using a stake to her heart in front of Stefan and Elena. so who's worse? Lexie didn't do anything to be dead like that. she's the lovelinest vampire i'd ever watched! and she's his brother's best friend! she's the girl who came to Stefan's rescue when he's desperate. Damon knew all that but he didn't regret doing that at all. it's not a matter of being fair!! who killed who? i know Stefan did think a lot before doing that to Andie. but he had to. Poor Stefan!
September 21st, 2011 11:40 AM
I think people need to stop hating on anyone. Everyone has their own thought process.
So what if Elena thinks that finding Stefan is more important than Andie dying? She was never close to Andie and although Damon liked Andie, it's not like he truly cared about her. Elena doesn't need to sympathize with everyone. She has her own life issues and has the right to focus on them. Plus, Stefan did call her. And don't tell me you didn't feel the incredible amount of love during that phone scene. I cried for both of them.
Yes, Damon killed Lexi. Damon was mean, bad, borderline evil (nowhere near Klaus, but borderline). He's changed. It doesn't excuse what he's done in the past, but he's trying to be better. Right now he's bitter, so it makes sense that he would try to convince Elena that Stefan is gone. He only saw the Ripper and not Stefan.
And Stefan? Well, just like Damon, there's no excuse to killing, but if Damon can be forgiven, then why can't Stefan? Right now he shouldn't be
Rank: Regular Character
September 21st, 2011 11:17 AM
Damon killing Lexie was SO much worse than Stefan killing Andie. Damon did it for selfish reasons, Stefan did it for selfless reasons. Of course killing is wrong in all cases, if you're going to compare the two, what Damon did was a lot worse. Lexie happened to be Stefan's greatest, dearest and best friend for over 100 years. Andie? She was Damon's toy and he did rape her. He compelled her to love him, and she was just a distraction for whenever she got bored. It was brainwash. Hell, in just episode 19 he was about to kill her himself. He was upset at her death, sure, but I think he was more upset about what Stefan had become. I don't think he ever truly cared for Andie. There was no connection.
Then the actual reasons behind the killings were a lot different too. Stefan had to kill Andie, so that Damon would stop looking for him, therefore protecting him from death aka KLAUS. Damon killed Lexie so that the council wouldn't think it was him who had killed all of the humans (even th
Rank: Extra
September 21st, 2011 10:13 AM
Damon killing Lexi was strategic. He did it to gain the council's trust and protect his and Stefan's secret. What did killing Andie get Stefan?
Rank: Extra
September 21st, 2011 10:12 AM
I get that Stefan feels incredibly guilty for what he is doing what Klaus is making him do but was any of it really necessary? The excuse is that he is doing all this to keep his loved ones(Damon and Elena) safe, but is it justified to kill all these people just to save two? The whole reason he agreed to work with Klaus was to save Damon, but his brother had lived for over 100 years. Although I am a huge Damon and Dalena fan even I dont think that poor girl Stefan killed in last seasons finale to prove his loyalty to Klaus deserved to die in Damon's place let alone all the people he killed over the summer. And dont even get me started on Andie. There was absolutely no need to kill her just to ensure Dalena stopped looking for him.
September 21st, 2011 8:29 AM
@san,dat's nt enuf reason 4 damon to killed lexi,wat's there if stefan killed andy,fair is fair.
September 21st, 2011 8:08 AM
When Damon killed Lexie he was desperate. Sheriff Forbes and the others knew there was a Vampire in town, so - for Damon - it came down to "my brother or that annoying girl or me"! That wasn't evil, that was math.
Ok, it was evil, but killing your brothers girlfriend in front of his eyes when there's absolutely no need for it... not cool.
But, actually, I like the darker side of Stefan ;-) With Elena he was kind of whiny and boring, now he gets interesting.
Rank: Guest Star
September 21st, 2011 6:11 AM
all u guys totally forgot about a "devilish Damon" who used to kill someone Stefan really cared about, Lexie sans any regrets.he even did to serve his selfish malicious purpose!! don't blame Stefan for doing that. he's trying to protect his love ones, including Damon! i thought Elena's reaction was just normal. she'll forgive him like she does to Damon. that's why i love Stelena so much. Stelene shippers always!!
September 21st, 2011 1:53 AM
I knew Elena would be tough to take this season,bt,now,I know she will piss me off,,
September 21st, 2011 12:00 AM
omg! i hate elena in this clip....why is she so selfish? oh yeah sorry damon andie died...oh yeah and stefan killed her! ohhh but he called me and even though he didn't say anything....its more important
September 20th, 2011 9:09 PM
@ Uncle Jackass
Spike did consider himself to be evil hence his frustration over liking Buffy and in fact the no soul portion is what made them evil as vampires in Buffy were considered to be a form of demon. Also both Spike, Angelus, Darla, and Drusilla were not typical vampires as in Buffyverse most vamps were dumb and the Fab Four were quite intelligent.
Rank: Regular Character
September 20th, 2011 8:18 PM
We only see the universe as we see it.
Analogies with both Spike and Damon characters, I don't believe that these characters ever thought that they were actually evil; in comparison to the brooding Stefan, like Angel. They were just staying true to their nature. In the novels the constant invitation from Damon to Elena to be his "Princess of Darkness" was just no different from proposing a happily vampire ever after scenario. Admittedly, it would probably the same killing, feeding, etc on the bender...
On the other-hand, the series version does portray a lot of characters with judgmental personalities; I suppose the line between who lives and dies has been drawn.
September 20th, 2011 6:45 PM
Seriously right? Andie just freakin' died, that's horrible news, show some respect. I enjoy the show well enough but sometimes Elena's little-picture whinyness gets to be a little too much.
Rank: Regular Character
September 20th, 2011 5:12 PM
very sensitive from u elena, very sensitive :] .. andie is dead - oh ok, stefan called me ... srsly wtf