The Walking Dead Review: Taking Lives Comments (Page 2)
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staylor2011
November 29th, 2011 3:15 PM
@sbaileydev IM ONE SMART FEMALE LOL :)
StBob
November 29th, 2011 3:14 PM
One should always remember that title The Walking Dead could also refer to the survivors as in Dead Men Walking. All the little conflicts between and within the group are about how much of their humanity they retain and how much they sacrifice for the sake of survival. Too much and what is the point of surviving?
The Zombies are both their nemesis and a metaphor for what they have become - reborn but literally lacking as much humanity as before - more or less. For this reason I find it occasionally annoying and frustrating but ultimately intriguing. What would I do in their place?
Because the Zombies are "the other" it took this episode and Sophie's reappearance to remind us of the constantly thin dividing line between the groups. As Hershel might say: "there but for the grace of God go I" or "Don't bite off more than you can chew".
John Moshier Rank: New User
November 29th, 2011 1:22 PM
I thought the first time they saw the walkers in the barnd they were in a whole below then all of a sudden they were right ther in the top of the barn
Rachel
November 29th, 2011 1:19 PM
@ Che Che, I love Shane too and agree about him being the voice of reason in a war against extinction. However, I don't think Shane is the only one. I also feel Daryl has some true survival skills.
On the other hand, I can't believe they all haven't gotten infected since Daryl uses the same arrows to hunt as to kill zombies. Curious if Otis found the little girl hurt in the woods [the same day she went missing], and perhaps brought him back to the house for medical help. The CDC guy said it can take anywhere from 2 minutes to 2 days for the zombification process. Perhaps Hershel thought they would give up, and he could wait around for a cure. I think this next half of the season, we will see Hershel give in to an old alcohol addiction, Darryl and Shane team up against Dale, and Andrea gets pissed off that Lori is pregnant with Shane's baby.
Chucko
November 29th, 2011 12:25 PM
I think that Sophia coming out of the barn will tie into what the Doc at the CDC whispered to Rick. (SPOILER for the COMIC) In the comics, everyone is infected, you just have to die and you come back as a Zombie. Having seen no marks on Sophia, it doesn't look like she was bitten. She may have eaten poison berries, broke her neck, whatever. This is where Rick tells what the Doc whispered to him before they left. He said the were "no Surprises" with their blood work. He was looking for sort of immunity, or someone that escaped the infection to try to find a cure. But who knows really. So much has changed from the comics. Sophia is still alive (outliving both parents), Shane gets gunned down by Carl very early.
Che Che
November 29th, 2011 12:51 AM
The user ohmygodjohntravolta pretty much gave an accurate spoiler, but I noticed it was removed from last week's review. Anyway, I skipped through most of this episode because of this, I was like "can we cut to the chase?" That's the problem with spoilers - I hope what he/she said was just fan fiction. I've read the comics so I wasn't quite sure how close Season 2 was going to stick with the graphic novel.
Anyway, I'm glad they finally dispensed with all the mini-dramas, they were dragging the storyline. I personally love Shane, he's the harsh but true voice of reason. Everyone else still hasn't come to terms with the reality of the new world "order", just like their hopeless search for Sophia (which has cost far more lives than necessary) and their false sense of security at Hershel's farm (which again has been more costly than safe due to Hershel's duplicity concerning Sophia's whereabouts and the walkers in general). Plus Lori's guilt about her torn feelings
sbaileydev
November 28th, 2011 11:59 PM
@staylor2011 You've got to be right! I can't believe I've never put two and two together before. That makes perfect sense seeing how the scientist at the CDC got all of their blood work. So if that's what he whispered to Rick, Then the baby must be Shanes! Which also explains how Rick knew that Shane and Lori slept together.
You sir, are a smart man ;)
staylor2011 Rank: Extra
November 28th, 2011 3:32 PM
correction: i think its SHANES baby based on that info! sorry i got excited :/
staylor2011 Rank: Extra
November 28th, 2011 3:31 PM
I posted earlier: does anywoe remember when they where at the CDC and the doc wispered something in ricks ear? i bet he told rick lori was preggo!!! i think the baby is ricks based on that info....any thoughts????
staylor2011 Rank: Extra
November 28th, 2011 3:27 PM
@ stephen I agreee with you!!!! lori was way out of line...shane is a ticking time bomb!!!! and he want her and now that she preggo hes gonna use it to HIS advantage!!!
Patti Miller Rank: New User
November 28th, 2011 12:36 PM
I am so mad at Shane!!!After his blow up he should have steped up and shot Sophia himself!He is a loose cannon and I wouldn't be sorry to see him get bitten in the next episode!I love this show and the people in it,so I don't want to see Shane hurt any one else!
Stephen
November 28th, 2011 11:52 AM
Lol I'm a bit on edge too after I see one of these episodes. There's something kind of close to home about a plague ending civilization as we know it. I just picked up a copy of World War Z.
Barb Bacon Rank: New User
November 28th, 2011 11:40 AM
Thank you all very much--I can no longer stay alone at night. Totally spooked by the idea of the walking dead. Nightmares...the whole deal.
Can't watch it any more; just read the reviews the day after.
Wow what an ending.never expected that.come on Feb why so long?Hope the last 6 episodes are that good/
Kim Kennedy
November 28th, 2011 11:33 AM
They are going to have to put Shane down like a rabid dog before it's all over with.
bindy
November 28th, 2011 11:12 AM
I love the Walking dead season 2 the first half was a little on the slow side at time and left some whole but did expand on other-- like what with the cattle drive of walker on the road but they don't go down to the farm? You had walker in the woods but they didn't go to the farm field in the whole time that the group was camping? I'm remember Hershel's girl saying that all the other farms in the area were over run and destroyed. As for Sophia story maybe a web-stories line could be done to help there. But I love the show and will can't wait to see were it is going in feb.
Paul
November 28th, 2011 11:09 AM
I see a show down coming - one where Dale tells what he knows to Rick and Rick has to have a moment of truth concerning Shane . . . & realizes the only way to maintain order & discipline in the group is to kill Shane . . . and Carl witnesses it !
Stina
November 28th, 2011 10:58 AM
Shane is passionate and more exciting to watch then any of the other characters. I want him and Darryl to survive it all! + I think he (Shane) was happy/proud to see Rick kill Zombie-Sofia, to see that he finally showed some survival instinct.. Can't wait until february...!
Pam
November 28th, 2011 10:50 AM
@Stephen - I thought Lori was really harsh with Shane - I guess she hasn't noticed that he is a man on the edge. However, in regards to the law - there is no law. That is what I see as Rick's struggle - he keeps trying to do the right thing in a world that doesn't have to listen to "law" anymore.
Stephen
November 28th, 2011 10:22 AM
....oh and Carl better take that hat off, he looks ridiculous doing his 4 foot tall Dirty Hairy thing. They should've gotten a taller actor.
Stephen
November 28th, 2011 10:19 AM
Anyone else think that first zombie to come out of the barn had kind of a bright happy smile on his face :D I mean it was probably just a facial wound but that's what it looked like to me lol.
I kinda hated Lori in this episode, regarding her baby conversation with Shane. "Even if it is yours, it'll never be yours, and there's nothing you can do about it!". WOAH back it up.
First of all according to law, the father always has rights over his own child.
And secondly this is Shane, he sure as hell CAN do something about it, so how is it a smart idea to provoke him?
All told she was pretty immature.
Tiffany
November 28th, 2011 9:23 AM
They discussed the backstory of Sophia on the Talking Dead. Otis was the one who was responsible previously for fishing the walkers out of the swamp. He was the one who "caught" Sophia. Otis had been out and killed before anyone had talked about it; Hershel may not have even known she was in there. Otis "managed" that. They said she had a bite on the back of her neck. Keep in mind the zombies are slow, humans are fast - you are bitten and can run, but eventually the fever gets you.
As for Glenn, remember the scene was dark - all you saw were dark eyes and shadowed rotting flesh looking up at you. You could't discern one from the other, how would you have expected him to see Sophia in that crowd?
I think Lori thinks it's Rick's based on how far along she is: how many weeks since the missed period, the symptoms (each trimester has its own unusual bag of joys), so she can count back. I'm not sure in the show's timeframe how long it's been since Rick has been back, but I know
Hammspsp
November 28th, 2011 9:07 AM
The way the show played out makes perfect sense. We don't know what kind of a zombie Sophia was attacked by or if she was bitten or scratched. It was most likely in the woods where there are plenty of ways for her to get away if attacked. Why would Hershel tell the group they had found a little girl. He wanted to treat the zombie's like real people and he knew if he told them she was in the barn they would either kill all of the zombie's or give them a reason to never leave, both options Hershel didn't want to happen. At the end of it the storyline arcs and shows although Shane is built for this world to kill zombie's he is not built to lead. He is to emotional and emotions will one day get you killed.
Jarrod Mitchell Rank: Leading Character
November 28th, 2011 8:49 AM
If you think that Shane shows leadership, think on this. The argument that Shane killed Otis to save himself and Carl is wrong. If Shane had the dignity and strength of character that some are saying, he could have shot himself and allowed his life to be the sacrifice to save Carl. Otis wasn't so fat that he couldn't have gotten away. Shane just wanted to get back at any cost, to show Lori that he is more of a man for her than Rick. Shane is just a ticking time bag waiting to explode and I hope Dale or someone else empties a barrel of bullets into his chest.
Jas
November 28th, 2011 8:02 AM
Hershel and the others knew Rick and crew were looking for Sofia. Why wouldn't they have told them they found a little zombie girl?
I like the show, but while this ending was a surprise and had a nice arc (due to Shane's growing desire to survive at all costs), it does seem like a major plot hole. It seems like they want us to forget some things that happened earlier. Also make you wonder how she became a zombie and wasn't just devoured. Perhaps they'll show a flashback to it when the show resumes in Feb.
November 29th, 2011 3:15 PM
@sbaileydev IM ONE SMART FEMALE LOL :)
November 29th, 2011 3:14 PM
One should always remember that title The Walking Dead could also refer to the survivors as in Dead Men Walking. All the little conflicts between and within the group are about how much of their humanity they retain and how much they sacrifice for the sake of survival. Too much and what is the point of surviving?
The Zombies are both their nemesis and a metaphor for what they have become - reborn but literally lacking as much humanity as before - more or less. For this reason I find it occasionally annoying and frustrating but ultimately intriguing. What would I do in their place?
Because the Zombies are "the other" it took this episode and Sophie's reappearance to remind us of the constantly thin dividing line between the groups. As Hershel might say: "there but for the grace of God go I" or "Don't bite off more than you can chew".
Rank: New User
November 29th, 2011 1:22 PM
I thought the first time they saw the walkers in the barnd they were in a whole below then all of a sudden they were right ther in the top of the barn
November 29th, 2011 1:19 PM
@ Che Che, I love Shane too and agree about him being the voice of reason in a war against extinction. However, I don't think Shane is the only one. I also feel Daryl has some true survival skills.
On the other hand, I can't believe they all haven't gotten infected since Daryl uses the same arrows to hunt as to kill zombies. Curious if Otis found the little girl hurt in the woods [the same day she went missing], and perhaps brought him back to the house for medical help. The CDC guy said it can take anywhere from 2 minutes to 2 days for the zombification process. Perhaps Hershel thought they would give up, and he could wait around for a cure. I think this next half of the season, we will see Hershel give in to an old alcohol addiction, Darryl and Shane team up against Dale, and Andrea gets pissed off that Lori is pregnant with Shane's baby.
November 29th, 2011 12:25 PM
I think that Sophia coming out of the barn will tie into what the Doc at the CDC whispered to Rick. (SPOILER for the COMIC) In the comics, everyone is infected, you just have to die and you come back as a Zombie. Having seen no marks on Sophia, it doesn't look like she was bitten. She may have eaten poison berries, broke her neck, whatever. This is where Rick tells what the Doc whispered to him before they left. He said the were "no Surprises" with their blood work. He was looking for sort of immunity, or someone that escaped the infection to try to find a cure. But who knows really. So much has changed from the comics. Sophia is still alive (outliving both parents), Shane gets gunned down by Carl very early.
November 29th, 2011 12:51 AM
The user ohmygodjohntravolta pretty much gave an accurate spoiler, but I noticed it was removed from last week's review. Anyway, I skipped through most of this episode because of this, I was like "can we cut to the chase?" That's the problem with spoilers - I hope what he/she said was just fan fiction. I've read the comics so I wasn't quite sure how close Season 2 was going to stick with the graphic novel.
Anyway, I'm glad they finally dispensed with all the mini-dramas, they were dragging the storyline. I personally love Shane, he's the harsh but true voice of reason. Everyone else still hasn't come to terms with the reality of the new world "order", just like their hopeless search for Sophia (which has cost far more lives than necessary) and their false sense of security at Hershel's farm (which again has been more costly than safe due to Hershel's duplicity concerning Sophia's whereabouts and the walkers in general). Plus Lori's guilt about her torn feelings
November 28th, 2011 11:59 PM
@staylor2011 You've got to be right! I can't believe I've never put two and two together before. That makes perfect sense seeing how the scientist at the CDC got all of their blood work. So if that's what he whispered to Rick, Then the baby must be Shanes! Which also explains how Rick knew that Shane and Lori slept together.
You sir, are a smart man ;)
Rank: Extra
November 28th, 2011 3:32 PM
correction: i think its SHANES baby based on that info! sorry i got excited :/
Rank: Extra
November 28th, 2011 3:31 PM
I posted earlier: does anywoe remember when they where at the CDC and the doc wispered something in ricks ear? i bet he told rick lori was preggo!!! i think the baby is ricks based on that info....any thoughts????
Rank: Extra
November 28th, 2011 3:27 PM
@ stephen I agreee with you!!!! lori was way out of line...shane is a ticking time bomb!!!! and he want her and now that she preggo hes gonna use it to HIS advantage!!!
Rank: New User
November 28th, 2011 12:36 PM
I am so mad at Shane!!!After his blow up he should have steped up and shot Sophia himself!He is a loose cannon and I wouldn't be sorry to see him get bitten in the next episode!I love this show and the people in it,so I don't want to see Shane hurt any one else!
November 28th, 2011 11:52 AM
Lol I'm a bit on edge too after I see one of these episodes. There's something kind of close to home about a plague ending civilization as we know it. I just picked up a copy of World War Z.
Rank: New User
November 28th, 2011 11:40 AM
Thank you all very much--I can no longer stay alone at night. Totally spooked by the idea of the walking dead. Nightmares...the whole deal.
Can't watch it any more; just read the reviews the day after.
Rank: New User
November 28th, 2011 11:35 AM
Wow what an ending.never expected that.come on Feb why so long?Hope the last 6 episodes are that good/
November 28th, 2011 11:33 AM
They are going to have to put Shane down like a rabid dog before it's all over with.
November 28th, 2011 11:12 AM
I love the Walking dead season 2 the first half was a little on the slow side at time and left some whole but did expand on other-- like what with the cattle drive of walker on the road but they don't go down to the farm? You had walker in the woods but they didn't go to the farm field in the whole time that the group was camping? I'm remember Hershel's girl saying that all the other farms in the area were over run and destroyed. As for Sophia story maybe a web-stories line could be done to help there. But I love the show and will can't wait to see were it is going in feb.
November 28th, 2011 11:09 AM
I see a show down coming - one where Dale tells what he knows to Rick and Rick has to have a moment of truth concerning Shane . . . & realizes the only way to maintain order & discipline in the group is to kill Shane . . . and Carl witnesses it !
November 28th, 2011 10:58 AM
Shane is passionate and more exciting to watch then any of the other characters. I want him and Darryl to survive it all! + I think he (Shane) was happy/proud to see Rick kill Zombie-Sofia, to see that he finally showed some survival instinct.. Can't wait until february...!
November 28th, 2011 10:50 AM
@Stephen - I thought Lori was really harsh with Shane - I guess she hasn't noticed that he is a man on the edge. However, in regards to the law - there is no law. That is what I see as Rick's struggle - he keeps trying to do the right thing in a world that doesn't have to listen to "law" anymore.
November 28th, 2011 10:22 AM
....oh and Carl better take that hat off, he looks ridiculous doing his 4 foot tall Dirty Hairy thing. They should've gotten a taller actor.
November 28th, 2011 10:19 AM
Anyone else think that first zombie to come out of the barn had kind of a bright happy smile on his face :D I mean it was probably just a facial wound but that's what it looked like to me lol.
I kinda hated Lori in this episode, regarding her baby conversation with Shane. "Even if it is yours, it'll never be yours, and there's nothing you can do about it!". WOAH back it up.
First of all according to law, the father always has rights over his own child.
And secondly this is Shane, he sure as hell CAN do something about it, so how is it a smart idea to provoke him?
All told she was pretty immature.
November 28th, 2011 9:23 AM
They discussed the backstory of Sophia on the Talking Dead. Otis was the one who was responsible previously for fishing the walkers out of the swamp. He was the one who "caught" Sophia. Otis had been out and killed before anyone had talked about it; Hershel may not have even known she was in there. Otis "managed" that. They said she had a bite on the back of her neck. Keep in mind the zombies are slow, humans are fast - you are bitten and can run, but eventually the fever gets you.
As for Glenn, remember the scene was dark - all you saw were dark eyes and shadowed rotting flesh looking up at you. You could't discern one from the other, how would you have expected him to see Sophia in that crowd?
I think Lori thinks it's Rick's based on how far along she is: how many weeks since the missed period, the symptoms (each trimester has its own unusual bag of joys), so she can count back. I'm not sure in the show's timeframe how long it's been since Rick has been back, but I know
November 28th, 2011 9:07 AM
The way the show played out makes perfect sense. We don't know what kind of a zombie Sophia was attacked by or if she was bitten or scratched. It was most likely in the woods where there are plenty of ways for her to get away if attacked. Why would Hershel tell the group they had found a little girl. He wanted to treat the zombie's like real people and he knew if he told them she was in the barn they would either kill all of the zombie's or give them a reason to never leave, both options Hershel didn't want to happen. At the end of it the storyline arcs and shows although Shane is built for this world to kill zombie's he is not built to lead. He is to emotional and emotions will one day get you killed.
Rank: Leading Character
November 28th, 2011 8:49 AM
If you think that Shane shows leadership, think on this. The argument that Shane killed Otis to save himself and Carl is wrong. If Shane had the dignity and strength of character that some are saying, he could have shot himself and allowed his life to be the sacrifice to save Carl. Otis wasn't so fat that he couldn't have gotten away. Shane just wanted to get back at any cost, to show Lori that he is more of a man for her than Rick. Shane is just a ticking time bag waiting to explode and I hope Dale or someone else empties a barrel of bullets into his chest.
November 28th, 2011 8:02 AM
Hershel and the others knew Rick and crew were looking for Sofia. Why wouldn't they have told them they found a little zombie girl?
I like the show, but while this ending was a surprise and had a nice arc (due to Shane's growing desire to survive at all costs), it does seem like a major plot hole. It seems like they want us to forget some things that happened earlier. Also make you wonder how she became a zombie and wasn't just devoured. Perhaps they'll show a flashback to it when the show resumes in Feb.