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Once Upon a Time Round Table: "7:15 A.M."

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It was 7:15 A.M. in Storybrooke last Sunday. Meaning what, exactly?

Our Once Upon a Time Round panel of author Molly Harper ("Nice Girls Don't Have Fangs"), Jim Garner, Christine Orlando and Nick McHatton are here to discuss that precise question, as they debate the latest episode of this ABC favorite...

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Now that Snow no longer remembers who Charming is will that overlap or parallel in to Storybrooke with Mary Margaret at all?
Molly: I think the moment of "forgetting," may have been what allowed Mary Margaret to say, "Screw it" and throw her arms around David, kissing the royal hell out of him. She had to let go of all that guilt and baggage before she could accept love on Storybrooke's twisted terms.

On a sidenote, as much as I love the empowered, Princess-of-Thieves, "I skinned a muppet for this pink fur forest wanderer ensemble" version of Snow White, I'm looking forward to how the forgetfulness will progress the fairytale land storyline.  Blank-canvas Snow White is going to be more approachable, less guarded than the original Snow White. But Charming is going to have to woo her all over again.  And that's going to be interesting- to see how that could change the way the Prince sees/feels about her, and to see if it changes the tone of their love story.

Jim: No, because Storybrooke takes place after Charming and Snow were married and had Emma, would make sense for her to forget again.

Christine: I think that they parallel one another in that they are two love stories starting out all over again both with obstacles to face. Charming will have to make Snow fall in love with him all over again or somehow break the spell. David and Mary Margaret have Kathryn, Regina, and the Storybrooke curse to get past to find their happy ending.

Nick: I can’t help but wonder if Snow’s amnesia of Charming is a way of subtlety mirroring David’s amnesia in Storybrooke. In order for true love to work out, both worlds have to work their way through their respective obstacles towards it.

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Do you think the feelings David says he has for Kathryn are real or are they part of the curse Regina has put over the town?
Molly: They would have to be part of the curse, wouldn't they?  Caused by Mr. Gold's windmill whammy in the pawn shop?  It seems like the characters' feelings in Storybrooke reflect what they felt in fairytale land.  He had no feelings for Abbigail except pity and contempt.

Jim: Absolutely part of the curse. And as Rumple pointed out, love is powerful magic and their love is over-riding Regina's spell.

Christine: Definitely part of the curse. Charming felt nothing for Abigail so whatever "memories" David has of being married to Kathryn are simply meant to keep him and Mary Margaret apart.

Nick: You can add my name to the definitely by curse list. Charming only went with Abigail because he was forced too, and that’s been carried over to Storybrooke as well. His feelings have been forced with Abigail by Regina.

What did you think of Once's version of Snow's Dwarves?
Molly: I want more children's stories to feature ninja dwarves named Stealthy.

Jim: Stealthy Smurf... errr dwarf? Really Molly?!? Okay, minus that I really like grumpy and his advice to Snow. Holding judgement on the rest till we see more of them.

Christine: Grumpy was great but Stealthy obviously needed to be a little more stealthy. So now we're down to seven.

Nick: Grumpy was a riot and had instant chemistry with Snow, but I’m sad to see Stealthy go so quickly.

Any guesses to who this mysterious writer is? Did he write Henry's fairy tale book?
Molly: As soon as I saw the typewriter, I thought, "GRIMM!" Either he's an original Grimm brother or a descendant of the Grimm brothers, and now that Emma has loosened the curse's hold on the town, he can help re-write the Happy Ever Afters that Regina has held out of their reach.

Jim: First thought is that he is a brother Grimm, and I think he may have the ability to change the story. Let's just hope he can write Graham back in.

Christine: I'm at a loss but it would be great if he wrote Henry's book.  Somebody had to, right?  It would be fun to see he and Emma rewrite the ending but I doubt it will be that easy.

Nick: It’s hard to say, but I have to believe he is some kind fairy tale person otherwise he wouldn’t be able to go to Storybrooke, right? I like the idea of him writing Henry’s book, but that kind of reveal seems a little early for the show.

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I think Snow's amnesia is mirroring David's. I thought Stealthy was such a plot device if ever I saw one. If he really was stealthy he wouldn't have gotten caught. I love the Stranger. He's a babe. It didn't occur to me that her wrote Henry's book and could rewrite the ending as a way of breaking the curse but GRIMM was the first thing that came to mind when i saw the typewriter. So keen for the next installment!

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1. I think it's meant to parallel. After all they had Snow's meeting of Grumpy in a prison, which parallels with Emma's meeting Leroy in jail in the pilot. 2. Definitely the curse. 3. Stealthy (I like the name someone else said he should have had - Sneaky - better) was a fun red shirt addition to the story. 4. Yeah I think he's supposed to help with the curse somehow. I've read how he believes in what Henry tells him about the curse and is supposed to help get Emma to believe in it.

Blu

1.I think the show has a great way of making both Stonybrooke and the fairytale land parallel or give nods to each other in direct and indirect ways. Snow White losing her memory is reflective of David being in a coma in Stonybrooke, but I think the obstacle faced by Mary will be not being able to forget losing control and kissing David.They can't ignore things now.
2.Curse. Even Abigal's description of David before the coma seemed outlandish and off compared to who we've seen in both realms.
3.STEALTHY!!!!I MISS YOU!!! Ok he was awesome for the two minutes we seen him.I like the dwarves or what we've seen of them so far.Grumpy/Leroy is awesome, but we need to see more of the others. I've only really caught Grumpy,Sneezy, and Sleepy.
4.Knew he was a writer!Hopefully the one able to rewrite the happy endings.It would be great if he somehow were able to bring back graham.

Saad702

1.I don't think so. In the fairy tale she takes the potion to forget everything, jsut in Storybrooke the curse is preventing them from remembering anything. I just think that the potion is a plot device made to create drama and show the audience how she eat the apple. 2. I think its part of the curse. In the fairy tale land he did not like her and these feelings could not be there unless we are missing an event which allowed James to have feelings for the princess. 3. They didn't have much of a story except loosing one of the original 8. That was an excellent touch tho! I love it. 4. I agree with the writers that is has to be the person who wrote Henry's book: The Grimm Brothers or a descendant. It would actually be an interesting story.

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1. I agree with christine
2. Part of the curse, he never loved kathryn
3. Loved once's version of 7 dwarfs, and obviously stealthy wasnt stealthy enough.....lol
4. I immediately thought "grimm!" And I'm sticking to it....maybe not himself, but hes a descendant. Grimm (original) wrote all the stories we know and love, after the witches curse there was no more stories. When emma showed up, and "unfroze" the town I think he felt it and was compelled to travel there to tell the stories.

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Clearly the show has big plans for this mysterious writer, and I think the character having some power over fairytale narratives, whether he's the Narrator/Creator, a Grimm, or just the writer of Henry's book, is a great idea. But that seems to lead to a quick end to the show. I'm sure there will be lots of obstacles thrown in the path of Emma, writer friend, and co., but I don't want Once Upon A Time to move too quickly and write itself out of existence! Also, my first thought about why Rumple took Snow White's hair is so the Queen can use it to curse the poison apple JUST for Snow White. All magic has a price!

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Every fairy tale has a Narrator. The Narrator could come and go as he pleased without necessarily being part of the story itself. Just food for thought.

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I loved how Snow's first meeting with Grumpy mirrored when Emma first met his Storybrooke counterpart, Leroy. Like mother, like daughter! It was heartwrenching seeing that Snow couldn't hold onto her pain for just one more day, but I'm so curious as to where Snow & Charming's story goes from here! Surely she will get those memories back at some point. I keep thinking maybe Rumple wanted her hair so he could make a reverse-potion, anticipating Charming coming to him for one.

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