I am thinking the Olivia that Peter thinks is the real Olivia was just some sort of projection.
review
February 18th, 2012 4:29 PM
I am from the idea that Nina is playing double like AltBroyles, forced to do so by Jones, blackmail?
In the preview at the end of the episode Jones puts some needles in Olivia again, and the other bit Clarissa refers to, could just be to test her.
What I do hope that both Olivia and Nina (if she is the godd one) will escape by themselves, and that Henry will be the Cabdriver not the baby (no one like that storyline, so why go back to that, everyone loved the cabdriver great to bring him back).
Every week I think that Anna Torv can not get more awesome, but she does, mindblowingly awesome.
She must be on top of everyones lists in case a lead with multiple personality disorder is needed,,well in any case I should think by now.
Anya
February 18th, 2012 12:18 PM
I figured Nina was pretending to be a prisoner, like someone else upthread posited. I'm hoping that Olivia was taken on her way to the bathroom (to the alternate universe?) instead of being a prisoner the whole episode. I would be devastated if the Olivia since we came back from Westfield was a different Olivia. I love this show!
Carissa Pavlica Rank: Staff Member
February 18th, 2012 12:05 PM
Wait. I just saw the extended promo. And what they are doing to Nina (the one wearing the outfit and held captive with Olivia) erases everything I just said. She and Mr. Jones are NOT friends. I CAN'T WAIT!!!!
Carissa Pavlica Rank: Staff Member
February 18th, 2012 11:58 AM
@Cest The more I think about it, the more I think you may be right. Walter & Peter were definitely with Alt-Nina, but she may be a late player in the game and at a complete loss. They promise answers next week - let's hope this is one of them because I'm going to be driven crazy in the meantime, just speculating!
Cest
February 18th, 2012 11:49 AM
I disagree, I think the Fringe creators are pulling a double bluff. I think the alt-Nina is tied up with Olivia to pump her for original timeline info, while the our Nina will be accused by Walter and Lincoln. The Nina who went with Walter and Lincoln seemed confused by the missing drugs. She seemed defensive because Walter was so in her face. Original Nina has always, to me anyway, to have that sort of semi-dark ambiguity as part of her personality.
I think this idea has more of a Fringe like twistability.
olga
February 18th, 2012 11:26 AM
MORE MORE MORE exactly!!
Segun
February 18th, 2012 10:30 AM
Nothing says sucker punch like the bad girl sitting in a locked room with the captive. Lets not jump to conclusions just yet.
Jennifer
February 18th, 2012 9:04 AM
Maybe Henry grew up to be the Observer & that is why he is so close to Olivia & Peter because keep in mind...they can travel all through time. Just a thought!
Taki
February 18th, 2012 6:18 AM
@nikitadri
If it was shapeshifter Olivia, it wouldn't be possible because if you remember the scene where Olivia was telling about the storage that blew up, Peter never knew about what was in it.
@CeS
Considering that she got cortexaphan, maybe she regained her power and shifted over to the other side and got nabbed?
Edgar
February 18th, 2012 5:25 AM
I think that Jones needed an ally and Alt-Nina is the best for that.
Our Nina is too good to go that evil and disappearance of Peter couldn't make her so.
George
February 18th, 2012 3:40 AM
Now that Oliva has regained(?!) her memory, does Altoliva does as well? Will the topic of Baby Henry come up?
Carissa Pavlica Rank: Staff Member
February 18th, 2012 12:57 AM
@CeS I don't think she was in a dungeon, so much as a crappy restroom type of place. Someplace underground. Just guessing, as I always do!
@nikidari If our Nina was replaced with a Shapeshifter, who cares? OUR Nina is still alive, if kidnapped with Olivia, and that is all I care about. If Alt-Nina is evil, she can equal a shapeshifter for all I care, because we never got to know her as we did the other alts, some of whom I dearly love.
nikitadri
February 18th, 2012 12:51 AM
My fear is, that perhaps Nina was replaced for one of the new high tech shape shifters we know are out there, just like alt-Broyles. And another thought that i had, which i am hoping is not true. Is that, the Olivia that was kidnaped was there from the beginning of the episode. And the Olivia that has been "remembering" everything is in fact a shape shifter too, and the reason she is suddenly remembering everything is because she read the files from Peter statements about his "timeline" while he was captive at the Fringe cell. Thoughts?
Great review. Any idea how Olivia got from the gas station to tied up in the dungeon with Nina?? The gas station attendant never saw her, so she must have been removed before she entered the gas station, right? But then Peter would have seen something. I'm so confused... and I love it. Yay Fringe!
Walter: It's a beautiful name. Astrid: What is? Walter: Astrid.
February 18th, 2012 7:04 PM
i love this episode it was so good
February 18th, 2012 6:12 PM
I am thinking the Olivia that Peter thinks is the real Olivia was just some sort of projection.
February 18th, 2012 4:29 PM
I am from the idea that Nina is playing double like AltBroyles, forced to do so by Jones, blackmail?
In the preview at the end of the episode Jones puts some needles in Olivia again, and the other bit Clarissa refers to, could just be to test her.
What I do hope that both Olivia and Nina (if she is the godd one) will escape by themselves, and that Henry will be the Cabdriver not the baby (no one like that storyline, so why go back to that, everyone loved the cabdriver great to bring him back).
Every week I think that Anna Torv can not get more awesome, but she does, mindblowingly awesome.
She must be on top of everyones lists in case a lead with multiple personality disorder is needed,,well in any case I should think by now.
February 18th, 2012 12:18 PM
I figured Nina was pretending to be a prisoner, like someone else upthread posited. I'm hoping that Olivia was taken on her way to the bathroom (to the alternate universe?) instead of being a prisoner the whole episode. I would be devastated if the Olivia since we came back from Westfield was a different Olivia. I love this show!
Rank: Staff Member
February 18th, 2012 12:05 PM
Wait. I just saw the extended promo. And what they are doing to Nina (the one wearing the outfit and held captive with Olivia) erases everything I just said. She and Mr. Jones are NOT friends. I CAN'T WAIT!!!!
Rank: Staff Member
February 18th, 2012 11:58 AM
@Cest The more I think about it, the more I think you may be right. Walter & Peter were definitely with Alt-Nina, but she may be a late player in the game and at a complete loss. They promise answers next week - let's hope this is one of them because I'm going to be driven crazy in the meantime, just speculating!
February 18th, 2012 11:49 AM
I disagree, I think the Fringe creators are pulling a double bluff. I think the alt-Nina is tied up with Olivia to pump her for original timeline info, while the our Nina will be accused by Walter and Lincoln. The Nina who went with Walter and Lincoln seemed confused by the missing drugs. She seemed defensive because Walter was so in her face. Original Nina has always, to me anyway, to have that sort of semi-dark ambiguity as part of her personality.
I think this idea has more of a Fringe like twistability.
February 18th, 2012 11:26 AM
MORE MORE MORE exactly!!
February 18th, 2012 10:30 AM
Nothing says sucker punch like the bad girl sitting in a locked room with the captive. Lets not jump to conclusions just yet.
February 18th, 2012 9:04 AM
Maybe Henry grew up to be the Observer & that is why he is so close to Olivia & Peter because keep in mind...they can travel all through time. Just a thought!
February 18th, 2012 6:18 AM
@nikitadri
If it was shapeshifter Olivia, it wouldn't be possible because if you remember the scene where Olivia was telling about the storage that blew up, Peter never knew about what was in it.
@CeS
Considering that she got cortexaphan, maybe she regained her power and shifted over to the other side and got nabbed?
February 18th, 2012 5:25 AM
I think that Jones needed an ally and Alt-Nina is the best for that.
Our Nina is too good to go that evil and disappearance of Peter couldn't make her so.
February 18th, 2012 3:40 AM
Now that Oliva has regained(?!) her memory, does Altoliva does as well? Will the topic of Baby Henry come up?
Rank: Staff Member
February 18th, 2012 12:57 AM
@CeS I don't think she was in a dungeon, so much as a crappy restroom type of place. Someplace underground. Just guessing, as I always do!
@nikidari If our Nina was replaced with a Shapeshifter, who cares? OUR Nina is still alive, if kidnapped with Olivia, and that is all I care about. If Alt-Nina is evil, she can equal a shapeshifter for all I care, because we never got to know her as we did the other alts, some of whom I dearly love.
February 18th, 2012 12:51 AM
My fear is, that perhaps Nina was replaced for one of the new high tech shape shifters we know are out there, just like alt-Broyles. And another thought that i had, which i am hoping is not true. Is that, the Olivia that was kidnaped was there from the beginning of the episode. And the Olivia that has been "remembering" everything is in fact a shape shifter too, and the reason she is suddenly remembering everything is because she read the files from Peter statements about his "timeline" while he was captive at the Fringe cell. Thoughts?
Rank: Extra
February 18th, 2012 12:38 AM
Great review. Any idea how Olivia got from the gas station to tied up in the dungeon with Nina?? The gas station attendant never saw her, so she must have been removed before she entered the gas station, right? But then Peter would have seen something. I'm so confused... and I love it. Yay Fringe!