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February 6th, 2012 7:46 PM
(cont) i think that shonda is a unique talent when it comes to storytelling, and keeping a show like this going for 8 seasons just speaks for itself. and we shouldn't forget that as an artist she wants to try new things and new concepts of storytelling, so i get that after years of establishing the show in a "traditional" way you want to get some of your own crazy ideas in there - such as this epi, the musical, the documentary epi or the golden hour..
i'm sorry for the rant, i just feel like some fans think they have the attitude that shonda needs to cater every single one of their needs or they're just gonna stop watching, and that's pissing me off a bit.
i guess what i'm trying to say is: there have been storylines and episodes that i liked more, and those that i liked less, but i never felt like watching was a waste of time.
February 6th, 2012 7:44 PM
I really liked the episode! I mean, I get that it didn't drive the actual storylines any further, and of course that's what we all want to see - the REAL drama, the character development, etc. BUT what I don't get is people whining about the characters being so "different" - well, that was the point of this whole epi! I sometimes feel like people should be reminded of the fact that this is just a tv show, that it is all fiction, and that, in the case of this specific episode, it was an alternative universe within the whole fiction...
yes, shows like grey's exist because the fans are invested in the characters - and i am no exception! i've had my share of storylines that i've actually dreaded but still, it has always been a great show, and honestly, if every little thing had always gone the way i would have wanted it to i probably wouldn't be watching anymore cause i would've gotten bored with the show.
Rank: New User
February 6th, 2012 7:07 PM
The whole point of the episode is what would have happened if Ellis never had Alzheimer's. It's pretty clear that the people who should have ended up together by relationship or by friendship still ended up together. That's the beauty of this episode. Meredith was still "damaged" by having a "Christina" as a mom but she ended up with a father (Richard) who basically protected her and put a band aid on that fact.
Obviously I thought about this so much but that's because I'm such a fan of Shondas work. She still stayed true to characters (Alex using Mer to advance his career, April having no spine but also using Mer, Jackson having those soulful eyes and not seeing Lexie as a lost cause). I'm also very sick with the flu so I do have a bit of free time on my hands to reflect in my feverish disposition.
Rank: New User
February 6th, 2012 7:07 PM
Merediths character was shaped on her experience of not having a sympathetic mother and an absent father. In this reality it made her focus on pleasing her mom and stepfather Richard which caused her to not care about her fellow intern classmates Izzy and George when they had failed at being interns. They also failed because Bailey was a good teacher so without Miranda Bailey instilling the fear of God or going to bat for them, the class was unable to bond and look out for each other.
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Rank: New User
February 6th, 2012 7:07 PM
I loved this episode. I could see how all of this came about if Ellis did not have Alzheimer's. I mean its clear that Derek was lured to Seattle because of his talent and Addison followed to save their marriage. Derek still would have walked in on Addison and Mark but because he didnt have true love Meredith was forcing him to make a choice or basically being the better choice he opted to "make his marriage work" without ever really forgiving Addie for sleeping with her best friend. It clearly shows that Meredith was able to fare well not having the reminder that Thatcher was an awful dad and because of this Thatcher never tried to overcompensate for his shortcomings and killed himself when Susan died of the hiccups. Thus never pushing Lexie to try hard to succeed and having her cure her "illness" of being Lexipedia.
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February 6th, 2012 4:35 PM
I really enjoyed the episode, it was well written and reminded me of the earlier seasons I used to love. Also good to see that the couples that belong together eventually find each other. They needed to make this 2 parts. not only 1 episode.
Rank: Guest Star
February 6th, 2012 3:36 AM
The Der/Addi/Mark was inevitable as well, and that baby was the one she aborted...interesting. Mer/Webber, 'Dad' ?! Lol, always nice these two... And the mystery, who's new Lexie's sister lool. That's why I fear that this week's episode will continue this one...
It was light hearted, yes, but please, don't do this to us or yourself Shonda, especially when the ratings were starting to get better !
P.S. : Mer in "nice girl mode" was disgusting loool ! They at least mentionned old characters, still... And Cris, "The Terror" lmao ! And Charles, not dead, Yay !
Rank: Guest Star
February 6th, 2012 3:35 AM
I didn't like it...My mouth was still hanging open after 10 minutes wondering 'WHAT THE H... IS THIS'. The previous episode left us with a BIG conflict: Cris and Owen. Okay the beginning showed us some, but c'mon ! The had nooo imagination (or too much). So couples were totally a surprise and not a good one... Bailey keeping her mouth shut was outrageous ! Webber loosing his balls to Ellis, LOL. It was nice seeing her but grey scrubs, SERIOUSLY and the blue ones, hideous ! Though some characters kept their traits and iinevitably were pulled to each other Mer/Der, Mer/Cris, Mark/Lexie(who's name was different/Avery and Alex/Kepner and Calzona...and Cris/Owen( with kids lol) Though I kinda hoped it would be Kepner/Avery.
February 5th, 2012 5:28 AM
i love Alex and April!i hope in this relationship!Izzie stay to home!
February 5th, 2012 4:56 AM
I love it. I like the references to past episodes: a shirtless Mark, the "I'm just a girl in a bar" scene, the badass Bailey we know...I love it.
I hate Ellis. Thank you for reminding me why. And I love that at the end of it, it's all about fate. MerDer were fated to be together. It just got delayed a little. Arizona and Callie were supposed to be together, Callie's crush on Arizona and Owen's chemistry with Cristina.
I love it. Thank you. Now let's go back and get more good stuff.
By the way, can we get more quotes? Especially Mer's opening and closing lines.
February 5th, 2012 4:15 AM
i think its not about watching it again or not, I think you're really missing the point. It was only one episode like "golden hour" , but it was way better. It made fans go back to the first three seasons after 8years and it was really cool. I got to be honest, I wasnt expecting too much after watching the sneak peeks. But the Mer/Ellis and Mer/Richard scenes were pure perfection, it remind me why after really crappy seasons I cant stop watching this show. Her "she made you small, and I'm not going to let her do the same with me" was really good, it made me feel like was on the first three seasons again when meredith's conclusions helped with my own life, and wonder "Why the hell did shonda kill Ellis Grey?!" scenes like these could be gold in these days. And the merder scene at the end, even in a "what if" world, was the best merder scene fans got since season 5!
Rank: Regular Character
February 5th, 2012 4:06 AM
They should fix so if you want to fix your comment you can,
Should have been Want to see Mandy evolve into Miranda Bailey.
Rank: Regular Character
February 5th, 2012 3:36 AM
What to see Mandy evolve into our Miranda Bailey that we have come to love.
Noticed the awkward kiss between Callie & Owen in front of Cristina.
I could handle more of these types of episodes.
I would love to see a What/If situation with Cristina, she and Burke got married and she wants kids which is opposite to what Cristina does in this reality. Now because Cristina is married to Burke and he stayed in Seattle, he becomes Chief of Surgery for real, and Cristina could jump ahead in her training and is now an Attending while the rest of her class are still residents struggling to cope with 5th year residency.
Seattle Grace would be a different Hospital had Burke stayed. No Hahn.
Good to see Alex was the same in both realities, he cheated on Izzie with Olivia and he cheated on Meredith with April in the alt-reality. Once a cheater always a cheater, same goes for Addison and Mark.
Rank: Regular Character
February 5th, 2012 3:21 AM
There was so much drama, it was fun to watch reading some of the comments, I think it should have been extended to 2 episodes.
Noticed that Cristina & Burke only slept together no mention of them heading to the alter. And her sleeping with him was that bad he left the State.
Even if they don't do another 'what if' type episode they could do another 'Time Warp' episode, love seeing Bailey with long hair and glasses, love to see her actually transform from the quiet timmed
February 4th, 2012 6:57 PM
Contrary to your review I liked the episode. Best episode this season IMO. I'm sorry I didn't DVR it. Hope it sets up the rest of the season for the characters and couples in the "reality" and maintains the quality of the writing for this one. This season has been less than impressive. And my take on what was good and what was not good in this episode was almost opposite of yours for what it's worth.
Rank: Guest Star
February 4th, 2012 5:09 PM
Well, all in all, it seemed like it was going back somehow to things originally is. Mer and Dreamy, Addison and Sloan, Yang and Owen, Arizona and Callie and etc.. Maybe not as "smoothly" as it really went, but someway, but I say let's stick to original Grey's Anatomy. Much better! I want Bailey to be loud, Meredith and Christina to be bff, Alex a bit cocky, Derek with Meredith, Addison out of the way and the same for Ellis, Webber to be ex Chief and all of that.
February 4th, 2012 2:34 PM
At first I was like WTF but as the episode progressed I loved every minute of it..We always ask ourselves what if? and its nice to see that what if in our characters....My fav parts were with Weber and Mer she deserves a good father to balance out her evil mother. My least favorite and most random was Calli and Owen...where did that come from?..but nonetheless I liked how in the end everyone steered right into the right direction of the present....As always EXCELLENT JOB SHONDA!!! your amazing and I definitely disagree with the haters sometimes CHANGE is good..im sure this isn't something she will do again but as a one time thing it was INCREDIBLE TO VIEW and not to mention HILARIOUS and HEARTWARMING!!!
February 4th, 2012 12:15 PM
Somehow its cute that McDreamy and Meredith ended up together again, but on the otherside its boring aswell. You can show a what/if and its ok if there a things better in the other life. Im a romantic person, but I guess there can always be a better side. I mean Alex cheating - they didnt have to do that
February 4th, 2012 11:41 AM
I liked it. No, it wasn't perfect (having Izzy, George and Burke would have made it perfect) but it was an interesting twist. Shonda had said that there was something "off" on all the characters' what/if personas, because they weren't who they were supposed to be. But if you look at it, they all wound up (or were heading toward) who they really are by the end:
Alex: self-sabotaging and ruining good things in his life; Meredith: getting dark-n-twistied by her fiancé's and mother's rejection and becoming a tequila-drinking "girl in a bar"; Derek: sad to be w a woman he does not love and unmotivated to be anything out of the ordinary (bc Mer pushes him); Bailey: found her voice at the end after getting canned; Cristina: focused, and actually compassionate to Owen (and ultimately Mer) ..
February 4th, 2012 9:55 AM
I personally loved this episode. It was a gift for all of the true die hard fans out there. The multiple references to previous seasons and all the history that was shared between the characters was envigorating to a series that has in many ways lost its way from it's initial focus. It reminded me of all those episodes back in S1 and S2 that I loved. I loved Charles' little "shoot me now" comment thrown in there....you'd have to know the history to get that. And the music harkening back to previous seasons was the icing on the cake for me. This is the ONLY episode that will be saved on my DVR so far this season. I have already watched it twice and will likely watch it several more times. Kudos to all that gave us die hards this fun little gift.
Rank: Extra
February 4th, 2012 3:26 AM
I find it boring... The original plot is so much better especially when it ended with so much drama (when Owen finally flared at Cristina). The only thing I enjoyed about this episode was when Alex mentioned to everyone about Cristina and Burke, Izzie and her patient, and George. I miss these people. Now, this whole What-if plot could be so much better if there's Burke, Izzie and George in it, but since its impossible then yeah, this whole episode is pointless... sigh.
I can't wait for next episode though, especially Owen saving Cristina from the crash!!
February 4th, 2012 2:39 AM
Well, I liked it. But if they did an episode like this they should of done it big. With the Og's The first original cast. Come on WHERE WAS Izzy and George and even Burke. It was interesting to see how this show was written. It would of been nice to see 007 and Torres having that married life with children and all. It was confusing to see Owen and Ms.Capshaw there. I think shondra should of really write this one over. As a true Greys fan I felt many things were missing. But, It was funny.
February 4th, 2012 1:24 AM
urgh please. Compare this episode to Buffy's The Wish/Doppleganger, or even the OC one where Ryan's not there, or Friends' alternate. Or one of the funniest episodes of community ever. Watch those and try to tell me this episode of Grey's lives up to any of that. Pointless, and totally boring, honestly.
Rank: Extra
February 3rd, 2012 11:52 PM
Everyone is missing the Bailey/Alex scene in the elevator. It was a nod to the Bailey/Derek scene in the elevator when Bailey stops the elevator so Derek can cry over Bonnie from the "Into you like a train" episode. In this universe, she berates Alex for crying in the elevator. Thought that was pretty cool.
Rank: New User
February 3rd, 2012 9:40 PM
I enjoyed seeing the characters in a different light. I especially enjoyed how the first song played in the beginning of the episode was also the first song we heard in the pilot. Also, the other musical selections were from the earlier seasons of Grey's so the throw back to those episodes was great.