Game of Thrones Round Table: "What Is Dead May Never Die"

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The Game of Thrones Round Table has returned - and do we have a lot to discuss!

On "What is Dead May Never Die," viewers met a couple new characters; watched as Theon made a life-altering decision; saw an especially soft side to Sam; and observed, once again, Tyrion in all his awesomeness.

Join TV Fanatics Matt Richenthal, Carissa Pavlica, Dan Forcella and Eric Hochberger now as they relive the episode's best, worst and most memorable moments...


What was your favorite scene from the episode?
Matt: Gotta go with Cersei's complete and utter breakdown at having her daughter sent away. The Queen Regent coming to grips with what she has created in Joffrey is almost enough to make me feel bad for her. Almost.

Carissa: When Brienne took off her helmet and revealed her gender. I love a good ass-kicking female.

Dan: My favorite had to be when Adam Friedberg decided to add all the nudity to this week's episode. Wait, that was just a sketch on Saturday Night Live? Now I'm confused.

Eric: No clue if it was technically three different scenes, but Tyrion telling each of the little spies he was marrying Myrcella to three different suitors. Pretty hilarious to be the least trustworthy of a group that included Varys and Littlefinger...

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Should Tyrion team up with Varys?
Matt: What are we talking about here? In bar trivia? Absolutely, they'd dominate. In a two-on-two basketball tournament? No way. They'd get killed.

Carissa: No. Tyrion is too smart to team up with anyone who has stabbed others in the back in the past. He really shouldn't look beyond Bronn for fealty. Anybody who wants power is only going to turn on him in the end. If they are only after money, that can easily be appeased.

Dan: Nope. Tyrion shouldn't trust anyone but himself. It is nice to weed out the most untrustworthy, but don't settle there. If he needs Varys to help him for something, okay, but don't actually team up with him. He can't be trusted.

Eric: Absolutely! Tyrion is probably the only man smart and dubious enough to team up with the likes of Varys and Little Finger and not get tricked, Ned Stark style. Go ahead and play him.

More impressive debut: Brienne or Margaery?
Matt: Margaery. Her response to Renly's... less than excited reaction to her flirtation left me laughing and gasping. Do you want my brother to come in and help? Do you wanna bend me over and pretend I'm a guy? I loved her directness and her ambition. Already a fascinating character.

Carissa: Brienne. Not that I don't mind seeing Anne Bolelyn again, but she frightens me.

Dan: Brienne. That woman is huge! Did the show enhance her size like the direwolves or is the actress actually that big? Impressive.

Eric: Brienne! Wow, I always pictured her as being a big girl, but, man, did her presence make taking down the Knight of Flowers believable! Not that Margaery didn't hilariously win me over with the proposal of Loras getting Renley started.

Did Theon make the right choice?
Matt: No. He was guilt-tripped by his father, but he should have stayed strong and remained loyal to Robb. In a world where brothers are willing to kill each other for the Iron Throne, and where siblings procreate, the concept of family is quite malleable. The Starks are Theon's true family.

Carissa: I don't think Theon even knows how to make a choice. He was given away, raised by a decent enough fellow, returned home in what he hoped was to be a triumphant manner only to be pissed upon by the man that gave him away... His head has to be spinning in a million different directions right now. Who to please? Who to betray? My guess is he will end up only looking after himself.

Dan: No, but can you blame him? His life has been seriously messed up by that family. Who would know why he makes any of the decisions that he does.

Eric: No way. Prisoner or not, that guy was raised by the Starks and trusted by Robb when set free. Now you're just going to betray them?!? Have fun with your weird incestuous name-changing sister.

How would you define power?
Matt: I'm mostly with Cersei on this one. As Ned Stark found out, and as any country that goes to war with the United States finds out, power is most often the result of sheer might and impressive numbers. You know what Theodore Roosevelt said about talking and sticks, don't you?

Carissa: The ability to lead others without fear, to draw them to you with your wisdom, compassion and integrity. To treat them equally and allow them a way to earn their place in life. To protect them from harm and have the balls to put them in their place when they don't follow the rules set by you to attain those goals without placing others in harms way. I am made to be a queen, dammit.

Dan: I would define it as a dwarf son of the high lord Tywin Lannister, as well as Jaime and Cersei's younger brother. It is extremely cunning and a big fan of the brothels. Also known as Tyrion.

Eric: Much like Tyrion, I could barely follow Varys' riddle. Even putting that perception and shadows aside, as intelligent of a species as we are, at the end of the day, it really does just come down to the man with the sword... or crossbow.

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The best scene was when Brienne took off her helmet.


I kinda like joffry. He's interesting


Varys's riddle is an extremely important concept to the books and the series. HBO didn't choose to make it the voice over for their preseason trailers for nothing. Those of you who say that crossbows and swords are power are missing Varys's point a bit. Of course steel literally kills in ways that words cannot, but the question posed by the riddle is, how do you convince others to wield that steel in your name instead of your rival's? Power, he says, is the ability to get others to die and kill for you (or for your cause). Some men may value wealth and gold, and therefore they (as represented by the sellsword in the riddle) will choose to spare the proverbial 'rich man.' Others will pledge their swords to noble titles and royal claims, and therefore they would save the king in the riddle. Still others are motivated by metaphysical forces such as honor, duty, or faith, and will ignore the protests of the king and rich man in order to spare the priest. There could be other figures as well in this hypothetical dungeon since there are a million ways to bring someone to your cause. The big point is that power is a trick that can allow even someone of tiny physical stature and strength to control the lives of millions, so long as he knows how to get people to do what he wants (which can be done most effectively by convincing people that he has power). What Varys also hints at is that power, being an ephemeral shadow, can be lost in a heartbeat and therefore it is never really a thing we can possess. Ned Stark assumed that having the moral high ground, some impeccable honor, and a piece of paper declaring him Lord Protector of the Realm would allow him to triumph. He was wrong; the incest that lead to Joffrey's birth doesn't matter unless people believe that it matters, and not enough of them did at the time. However, as Littlefinger mentioned to Cersei, that could change anytime...


1. Tyrion outing Pycelle.
2. Nope.
3. Margaery
4. No. Falling on his sword to save us the pain of watching him is the right choice.


What was your favorite scene from the episode?
CourtzOLobster: Tommen's reference that he wouldn't like it if Joffrey killed Robb Stark, he is cute and the complete opposite of what Ceresei and Jamie procreated in Joffrey. Should Tyrion team up with Varys?
CourtzOLobster: Yes - Varys is smart, knows ALOT and can help those who need it and ask... Ned Stark never asked for help, I think if he had in those Black Cells then maybe it would of ended differently. Varys knows how to get a man out of the Black Cells... More impressive debut: Brienne or Margaery?
CourtzOLobster: MARGAERY - Without any doubt, I'm a big fan of Margaery in the books so getting a closer look at this Character is awesome. But the casting of Brienne was awesome, best casting ever! Did Theon make the right choice?
CourtzOLobster: At standing up to his Dad, yes. At betraying Robb, no. He will live to regret that decision... His Dad has proven that he is nothing to him whereas Robb has proved that Theon is a Brother to him. How would you define power?
CourtzOLobster: Loyalty - The Lannister's have none and at the end of the Game of Thrones your going to see it comes down to who is loyal to who, unfortunately for the Lannister's no one is loyal to them as they never been loyal to anyone bar themselves.


1. Tyrion giving the prostitute one coin, and then after more thought a second coin for having to suffer the attends of Prycelle. LOL! 2. Tyrion would have to be crazy to team up or trust Varys. Tyrion has honor, Varys appears to have none. 3. Brienne was amazing. She is a presence and far more interesting than Margaery. 4. Theon is such a dope. I have no clue how to answer this one. I can't stand him really. I am looking forward to someone running a sword through him. 5. The person who controls the best weapons is the most powerful.


some answers are miss placed, very confusing :P. other then that i see this episode as some crazy twists coming just around the corner for all characters, and this was just the servant calling everyone for the feast.

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