@ms.m I wanted to see GG until its end (mostly thinking this would be the last season anyway) but you're totally right. The show's completely stagnated. It's flat out boring, everything is boring and feels lifeless. The last 3 or so episode have been slightly better technically (less plot holes and OTT obstacles) but way more boring to me. At least the God pact and Louis turning evil at the wedding from hell was funny in it's awfulness. Anyway, GG sucks and I don't know how I'm going to hang in.
About the vintage "Blair" comment...this crew disguises inconsistent characterization as "character growth". A character should grow and evolve (and to me that doesn't mean it has to be positive in nature) however there's a huge difference between allowing a character to growth and completely changing it. GG is guilty of the latter with all characters imo.
pty
April 20th, 2012 8:18 PM
These bozos always say the storylines are fun and everybody always end up disgusted, angry or unhappy.
Zoran
April 20th, 2012 4:56 PM
@Elisa
I am glad that we agree, again. But hardly anything will change until the end of the season. If the previous 20 episodes are not be good, I do not think it can last 4 to improve. Of course it would be good to make it happen. You can not imagine how surprised I was when watching season 1 again in March saw the exact same scene as in 100 episode. I had to watch several times that if I did see right. If they can not think of anything better, then let back Serena and Dan, and Chuck and Blair, and perfect. I think it will be the same set of NJBC copy of season 3, but this time instead of Jenny will be Charlotte. For me in the rest of this season is only interested in who these are two guys with whom will be Serena? Good is your that comparison with the goat!
ms.m
April 20th, 2012 4:28 PM
things that should've happened:
Lola blackmailing Serena with the GG info she now has. Lily working WITH William and Carole to take Ivy down. That would make the Lola being WIlliam's daughter reveal much better. Diane actually being Chuck's half sister....both Jack and Diane plotting to take Chuck's money/inheritance so they're sending him on a wild goose chase. Blair and Dan having a secret affair underneath everyone's noses on UES, including Chuck/Serena...then Ivy finding out about it and blackmailing them.
surprise alliances, crazy schemes, fabulous parties is what this show used to be about. there's nothing resembling that anymore. just lots of recycled couple and family drama.
ms.m
April 20th, 2012 4:21 PM
meh. i feel about Dair what i used to feel about Chair. they've already stagnated b/c they've completely isolated them from everyone else. thanks writers for not being able to write even one relationship right on GG.
Chuck/Nate---boring. Blair---yawn. Where was this 'fight' during the royal stuff when your family's money was on the line?! the only thing that seems interesting is the Serena/Lily/Lola/Ivy stuff but that's starting to stagnate quickly as well.
just meh.
Elisa
April 20th, 2012 3:16 PM
@Zoran, now that you make me think about it, you're 100% right! Not only they replayed season 2 (Dan is the new Nate and so many other similarities), but they even redid season 1! How lame of Safran the "capra"! (in Italian, it means "goat". I don't want to be offensive, but I'll call him that way until he will prove me wrong by having my beloved Blair back. Hopefully, I will be satisfied in 5x21/5x22...)
Chare
April 20th, 2012 2:43 PM
@Agent BIN - What an idiotic statement about Chuck. Like the other characters havent done dispicable things.
Dr. Holland Rank: Leading Character
April 20th, 2012 2:37 PM
Not even "vintage Blair" can save this joke of a season. It's so sad to see what's become of these characters.
Madmaniek Rank: Recurring Character
April 20th, 2012 12:16 PM
I think most people nowdays enjoy more the fan wars, than the show itself... to bad :(
Zoran
April 20th, 2012 11:50 AM
@ G. Singular, Perhaps, will be enjoyed Safran, like was enjoyed Serena! Hahaha!
G. Singular
April 20th, 2012 11:32 AM
Hahaha!
Anyway, here's my most ultimate endgame: Dan + Safran. They deserve each other.
Enjoy!
Zoran
April 20th, 2012 10:48 AM
@ G. Singular, Sorry, then we do not agree! Because Blair is just as insecure now in season 5 as it was in the first. For me, the perfect end of the series: Serena +Dan, Blair +Chuck and Nate +Charlotte (or Nate to be alone, because he is playboy)!
@ G. Singular for me, the ultimate endgame would be
Dan & Blair
Nate & Lola
Serena & her hands
chuck forever alone (because no woman would love him because they know he didn't deserve to be loved, he's a jerk. maybe just a crazy girl who will love him)
Zoran
April 20th, 2012 10:34 AM
Unbelievable, how producer on the series is trying to sell the audience the same story twice. It is entirely copied a season1 to now in season 5. With this difference, they replaced the main actress - what was Serena now is Blair, and vice versa. In the 100th episode, Serena told Dan that she loves him and he did not answer. This same scene was in the 1x1 episode when Blair also said that to Nate, who gives the same answer as Dan. Dan said to Serena in season 1 that he loves her, and she did not immediately respond. Now that same Dan will do again but now with Blair. It was announced that by the end of the season, Serena will be in a romance with two men. I think we all remember that in season 1, Blair had sex with Chuck and Nate. Now in this season Serena will have sex with Nate and with Chuck. Incredible stupidity replace actress and turn the story upside down!
TinaTrina Rank: Regular Character
April 20th, 2012 10:18 AM
G.Singular, I never said Season 5 Blair was Season 1 Blair. However, Safran himself is the one saying the next episode will be Vintage Blair. And the use of the word "Vintage" does imply that Blair in Season 5 isn't like Blair in Season 1 which should make sense. Characters should change. For the better or worse is debatable, of course.
However, saying that the mere fact that Blair is with Dan means she's not her real self is ridiculous. And claiming that Season 1 Blair wasn't whiny when she was, and also very insecure is ignoring the story and making up your own version.
Plus your blind hatred of Dan is ridiculous. Dan has acted no worse than Chuck, Blair or Serena in this season but you want him lost on an island.
Anyway, I don't want to fight here so this will be my last post.
G. Singular
April 20th, 2012 10:10 AM
Zoran, for me, the ultimate endgame would be Serena + Nate, Blair + new Guy, Chuck + Ivy, and Dan would be lost in some unknown island where he won't be able to come back. Ooooh. Lovely!
G. Singular
April 20th, 2012 10:07 AM
Tina Trina, only stupid people will be saying that the season 1 Blair is still the same with season 5 Blair. Try to watch the last 3 previous episodes, where this Blair cares for nothing but to please Dan and their bland relationship. Well what can I say? Dair fans are blind fanatics.
TinaTrina Rank: Regular Character
April 20th, 2012 9:58 AM
One final comment. I do apologize for calling people silly. I shouldn't make personal attacks.
Zoran
April 20th, 2012 9:56 AM
@ G. Singular, Well done. Completely're right. The only thing that can save a series of complete collapse in six season is a return to that as it was in season 1 and 2. Meaning return - Serena and Dan, and Chuck and Blair! A story in the series has to cover all the characters, no one should be favored at the expense of another.
TinaTrina Rank: Regular Character
April 20th, 2012 9:55 AM
And to say Blair wasn't whiny in Season 1? "You take everything from me!" doesn't ring a bell? Blair was very insecure in Season 1 and that drove a lot of her actions.
TinaTrina Rank: Regular Character
April 20th, 2012 9:50 AM
How dumb. Blair can't be herself if she's emotionally attached to Dan Humphrey? How very silly of you.
b
April 20th, 2012 9:27 AM
G.I couldnt have said it better since the mid season finale I've been horrified by the way the writers have ruined Blair she was my favorite character and to have her go from being in love with Chuck to loving but not being in love with him in an episode was the biggest wtf seriously so subtle safran
G. Singular
April 20th, 2012 9:20 AM
Safran, honey, you're so naive. Don't you know that you can't bring the old Blair from Season 1 as long as she's emotionally attached with Humphrey? That Blair was powerful, today's Blair is whiny. Thanks to you.
Serena: Congratulations, you've officially joined the dark side.
April 21st, 2012 5:25 AM
@ms.m I wanted to see GG until its end (mostly thinking this would be the last season anyway) but you're totally right. The show's completely stagnated. It's flat out boring, everything is boring and feels lifeless. The last 3 or so episode have been slightly better technically (less plot holes and OTT obstacles) but way more boring to me. At least the God pact and Louis turning evil at the wedding from hell was funny in it's awfulness. Anyway, GG sucks and I don't know how I'm going to hang in.
About the vintage "Blair" comment...this crew disguises inconsistent characterization as "character growth". A character should grow and evolve (and to me that doesn't mean it has to be positive in nature) however there's a huge difference between allowing a character to growth and completely changing it. GG is guilty of the latter with all characters imo.
April 20th, 2012 8:18 PM
These bozos always say the storylines are fun and everybody always end up disgusted, angry or unhappy.
April 20th, 2012 4:56 PM
@Elisa
I am glad that we agree, again. But hardly anything will change until the end of the season. If the previous 20 episodes are not be good, I do not think it can last 4 to improve. Of course it would be good to make it happen. You can not imagine how surprised I was when watching season 1 again in March saw the exact same scene as in 100 episode. I had to watch several times that if I did see right. If they can not think of anything better, then let back Serena and Dan, and Chuck and Blair, and perfect. I think it will be the same set of NJBC copy of season 3, but this time instead of Jenny will be Charlotte. For me in the rest of this season is only interested in who these are two guys with whom will be Serena? Good is your that comparison with the goat!
April 20th, 2012 4:28 PM
things that should've happened:
Lola blackmailing Serena with the GG info she now has. Lily working WITH William and Carole to take Ivy down. That would make the Lola being WIlliam's daughter reveal much better. Diane actually being Chuck's half sister....both Jack and Diane plotting to take Chuck's money/inheritance so they're sending him on a wild goose chase. Blair and Dan having a secret affair underneath everyone's noses on UES, including Chuck/Serena...then Ivy finding out about it and blackmailing them.
surprise alliances, crazy schemes, fabulous parties is what this show used to be about. there's nothing resembling that anymore. just lots of recycled couple and family drama.
April 20th, 2012 4:21 PM
meh. i feel about Dair what i used to feel about Chair. they've already stagnated b/c they've completely isolated them from everyone else. thanks writers for not being able to write even one relationship right on GG.
Chuck/Nate---boring. Blair---yawn. Where was this 'fight' during the royal stuff when your family's money was on the line?! the only thing that seems interesting is the Serena/Lily/Lola/Ivy stuff but that's starting to stagnate quickly as well.
just meh.
April 20th, 2012 3:16 PM
@Zoran, now that you make me think about it, you're 100% right! Not only they replayed season 2 (Dan is the new Nate and so many other similarities), but they even redid season 1! How lame of Safran the "capra"! (in Italian, it means "goat". I don't want to be offensive, but I'll call him that way until he will prove me wrong by having my beloved Blair back. Hopefully, I will be satisfied in 5x21/5x22...)
April 20th, 2012 2:43 PM
@Agent BIN - What an idiotic statement about Chuck. Like the other characters havent done dispicable things.
Rank: Leading Character
April 20th, 2012 2:37 PM
Not even "vintage Blair" can save this joke of a season. It's so sad to see what's become of these characters.
Rank: Recurring Character
April 20th, 2012 12:16 PM
I think most people nowdays enjoy more the fan wars, than the show itself... to bad :(
April 20th, 2012 11:50 AM
@ G. Singular, Perhaps, will be enjoyed Safran, like was enjoyed Serena! Hahaha!
April 20th, 2012 11:32 AM
Hahaha!
Anyway, here's my most ultimate endgame: Dan + Safran. They deserve each other.
Enjoy!
April 20th, 2012 10:48 AM
@ G. Singular, Sorry, then we do not agree! Because Blair is just as insecure now in season 5 as it was in the first. For me, the perfect end of the series: Serena +Dan, Blair +Chuck and Nate +Charlotte (or Nate to be alone, because he is playboy)!
Rank: Extra
April 20th, 2012 10:44 AM
@ G. Singular for me, the ultimate endgame would be
Dan & Blair
Nate & Lola
Serena & her hands
chuck forever alone (because no woman would love him because they know he didn't deserve to be loved, he's a jerk. maybe just a crazy girl who will love him)
April 20th, 2012 10:34 AM
Unbelievable, how producer on the series is trying to sell the audience the same story twice. It is entirely copied a season1 to now in season 5. With this difference, they replaced the main actress - what was Serena now is Blair, and vice versa. In the 100th episode, Serena told Dan that she loves him and he did not answer. This same scene was in the 1x1 episode when Blair also said that to Nate, who gives the same answer as Dan. Dan said to Serena in season 1 that he loves her, and she did not immediately respond. Now that same Dan will do again but now with Blair. It was announced that by the end of the season, Serena will be in a romance with two men. I think we all remember that in season 1, Blair had sex with Chuck and Nate. Now in this season Serena will have sex with Nate and with Chuck. Incredible stupidity replace actress and turn the story upside down!
Rank: Regular Character
April 20th, 2012 10:18 AM
G.Singular, I never said Season 5 Blair was Season 1 Blair. However, Safran himself is the one saying the next episode will be Vintage Blair. And the use of the word "Vintage" does imply that Blair in Season 5 isn't like Blair in Season 1 which should make sense. Characters should change. For the better or worse is debatable, of course.
However, saying that the mere fact that Blair is with Dan means she's not her real self is ridiculous. And claiming that Season 1 Blair wasn't whiny when she was, and also very insecure is ignoring the story and making up your own version.
Plus your blind hatred of Dan is ridiculous. Dan has acted no worse than Chuck, Blair or Serena in this season but you want him lost on an island.
Anyway, I don't want to fight here so this will be my last post.
April 20th, 2012 10:10 AM
Zoran, for me, the ultimate endgame would be Serena + Nate, Blair + new Guy, Chuck + Ivy, and Dan would be lost in some unknown island where he won't be able to come back. Ooooh. Lovely!
April 20th, 2012 10:07 AM
Tina Trina, only stupid people will be saying that the season 1 Blair is still the same with season 5 Blair. Try to watch the last 3 previous episodes, where this Blair cares for nothing but to please Dan and their bland relationship. Well what can I say? Dair fans are blind fanatics.
Rank: Regular Character
April 20th, 2012 9:58 AM
One final comment. I do apologize for calling people silly. I shouldn't make personal attacks.
April 20th, 2012 9:56 AM
@ G. Singular, Well done. Completely're right. The only thing that can save a series of complete collapse in six season is a return to that as it was in season 1 and 2. Meaning return - Serena and Dan, and Chuck and Blair! A story in the series has to cover all the characters, no one should be favored at the expense of another.
Rank: Regular Character
April 20th, 2012 9:55 AM
And to say Blair wasn't whiny in Season 1? "You take everything from me!" doesn't ring a bell? Blair was very insecure in Season 1 and that drove a lot of her actions.
Rank: Regular Character
April 20th, 2012 9:50 AM
How dumb. Blair can't be herself if she's emotionally attached to Dan Humphrey? How very silly of you.
April 20th, 2012 9:27 AM
G.I couldnt have said it better since the mid season finale I've been horrified by the way the writers have ruined Blair she was my favorite character and to have her go from being in love with Chuck to loving but not being in love with him in an episode was the biggest wtf seriously so subtle safran
April 20th, 2012 9:20 AM
Safran, honey, you're so naive. Don't you know that you can't bring the old Blair from Season 1 as long as she's emotionally attached with Humphrey? That Blair was powerful, today's Blair is whiny. Thanks to you.