Still Love Chuck Rank: Leading Character
April 24th, 2012 7:53 PM
I don't know what show Safran was watching, but that was NOT vintage Blair! That was some foolish, pretentious, silly school girl, and it was so hard to watch because the girl has no pride left. Even Dan was embarrassed by her behavior. She must be having some kind of emotional breakdown.
latinalover
April 24th, 2012 7:47 PM
@gg4 .0 are you racest?
diane
April 24th, 2012 7:42 PM
My gosh I could just vomit all over my screen right now with Lily's speech about Rufus finding another UES woman to take care of him... where is the woman who just ONE episode ago was talking about getting a new apartment that could fit both of their lifestyles? I really really would like to know where that bitter, evil Lily came from.
?
April 24th, 2012 6:37 PM
question for dair shippers (i am actually just really curious):
1. do you not think that chuck loves blair for blair bc that seems to be the main justificationn of dan and blair's relationship? THAT USED TO BE THE REASON CHUCK LIKED BLAIR WHICH MAKES ME FURIOUS!! ITS LIKE THEY ARE TRYING TO COPY EVERYTHING WE LOVED ABOUT CHAIR INTO DAIR
2. do you really think that chuck and blair were not equals when they were dating? at least blair was in college...
3. you do realize that the w magazine job was after the hotel trading thing so blair obviously didn't lose her self due to chuck?
4. dan has not been friends with the "real" blair waldorf yet so do you really think he will like what he sees? (especially after hating that blair in season 1-3 when she banished his sister and a lot of other stuff)
SO MUCH INCONSISTENCY IT KILLS ME!! I DONT RECOGNIZE DAN OR BLAIR ANYMORE!!!! gossip girl is going down hill I'm sorry
dewdrop
April 24th, 2012 6:25 PM
Gossip Girl is back on track!!!!!!Scheming succcessful, complicated relationsips, sex secrets and lies and finally...Blair came back toher senses
(From what i saw next week is going to be magnificent!) Blair is the heart of GG, no matter whose she's with(i am chair fan but Dan was so adorable in this ep i have the decency to admit)that's the show we know we love! XOXO
V
April 24th, 2012 5:52 PM
GossipGirlFan, to quote Blair "...somehow between being traded for a hotel and selling out for a tiara I lost my true self but I wanna be found, could you possibly help me?" Since your name claims you are a fan of the show, you should know Dan's response to that statement @W magazine. Feel free to also cast your mind back to season 4 and where Dan sabotaged B and got both of them fired from W before he righted his wrong. Did you per chance say she wasn't pining over Chuck? Do you remember Raina and how Blair was pining over Chuck and oblivious/in denial over his feeling for Raina? I think I am now convinced Ban fans started watching the show from 4th or 5th season.
gg
April 24th, 2012 5:51 PM
Blair has realised she has become a lesser version of herself and has acknowledged that her toxic relationships with Louis and Chuck are to blame. She knows Dan loves her for her and can help her become the strong, independent woman she was. So my question is if she knows all this why would she want to go back to Chuck who has essentially turned her into a person she doesn't like and is trying to fix?
GossipGirlFan
April 24th, 2012 5:07 PM
W showed she was all this things. she got the place at w with no connections but her own determination. she sabotaged her competition classic Blair. she replaced epperly and treated her interns as minions. she was definitely not lost Blair then probably due to her friendship with Dan and the fact she wasn't pining over Chuck for once
GossipGirlFan
April 24th, 2012 5:04 PM
Blair may have lost herself after Chuck traded her for a hotel. Dan fell for the strong and independent Blair who is capable of anything. Her time at
GGlovesCB
April 24th, 2012 4:46 PM
(Cont...)
She said that she and Chuck couldn't be together yet because she needed to be Blair Waldorf first - she isn't that person now! So it feels like she's just rediscovering herself so that she can be ready to be with Chuck, so that she can be strong and secure in herself and admit her own part in their downfall so that they can move on. If Dan helps her do that, then so be it - he has been a great FRIEND to her.
All these reasons as to why she's acting as she is and why she's so happy now with Dan are all contradictory and don't add up! I'd be a lot more believing if I felt like there was any substance to the arguments.
GGlovesCB
April 24th, 2012 4:45 PM
People have got to stop saying that Blair and Dan are 'equals' in their relationship! They simply aren't because Blair is this sad excuse of herself - which she has even acknowledged. They can not be equal while Blair is struggling to find herself, to rediscover her ambition and to regain her confidence.
Those scenes where it's just the two of them and they're being sweet are just that - sweet. But the true B loves to be the respected, admired Queen of society and she hasn't been able to achieve this recently, even with Dan etc. Maybe she will get there but she HAS NOT YET.
(Cont...)
V
April 24th, 2012 4:41 PM
GossipGirlFan I wish Dan was as forgiving and understanding of Serena when he also claimed to love the real her. @ your comment, "Dan fell for her strength and independence": Dan claimed he fell in love with Blair while they were both at W magazine. That period was when Blair claimed she lost herself since it came after Chuck traded her for a hotel/She chose to trade sex for a hotel without knowing she had been traded+ selling out for a tiara to live her princess dream. In a nutshell, Dan loves the lost Blair.
Skittles
April 24th, 2012 4:12 PM
Dair are cute they just don't work on GG any other show but their relationship makes Blairs character bomb completely.
Dair fans are Dan fans not Blair cos this version of her is pitiful. Unfortunately the writers don't see it.
I just want the super Blair back and this thing with Dan just doesn't work on this show.
Blair and Serena BFF's for endgame and a new found friendship with Chuck he's going to need it!
GossipGirlFan
April 24th, 2012 4:04 PM
I definitely believe Blair can find her true self with Dan. He truly loves Blair for Blair. Having been on the receiving end of many a Waldorf scheme he knows she has a dark side but recognises that it is her own insecurities that feed it. Her relationships with Chuck and Louis have reduced her to a shadow of her former self because she was literally living in their shadows. She became Chuck's property and Louis's prisoner but with Dan she can finally be with someone who sees her as his equal and who loves the fact that they are equal. He knows her latest scheme is fuelled by her own self-doubt and he tells her how strong and independent she is. Dan fell for her strength and independence and when she sees herself through his eyes it makes her want to be the better version of herself.
Zoran
April 24th, 2012 3:50 PM
@Elisa
I agree with you. You can not expect big changes by the end of the season. But what has been announced should happen. Dan should tell Blair that he loves her and that she does not answer to him what he expected. This is one of the changes that can disrupt between Dan and Blair, who is scheduled to be the end of the season. Also, going or not going to Rome by Dan should happen, and this can have consequences compared to Blair and Dan. And of course, for me a very important issue which the two boys will have a romance with Serena until the end of the season?
Elisa
April 24th, 2012 3:23 PM
@Zoran, I totally agree with your last comment.
Well, you immediately understood that I am very angry at the moment, just because I really can't stand this situation at all. It's not just because of Dair itself (even though my dislike for Dan helps a little), but what the writers did to make it. And all these expextations about this "pure and simple love" are actually blown out in less than an episode. I mean, I don't know if the writers meant it to be this way (which I actually hope), but this couple has just so many problems and even Blair admitted twice that maybe they shouldn't be together.
I don't know what to think anymore, so I just keep my fingers crossed, maybe something (of course not everything, since there are just 3 episodes left) will actually change. I'm very hopeful about next episode (the promo sounds very interesting and I can see a glimpse of the old Blair)and, moreover, about those Chair pictures at the casino...
Madeleine
April 24th, 2012 3:10 PM
Also - why is there SUCH inconsistency in the way Dan treats Blair and the way he treated Serena? He never gave Serena the true trust and acceptance as he's given Blair. It seems like Dan doesn't REALLY accept Blair for who she is, he just knows that at the moment she's this weak version of herself. Therefore, if she tries to reclaim herself and do something sneaky or slightly bitchy, he can just scold her and 'forgive her' for being her true self - and then she, being so weak and alone, apologises and goes back to being that part of her.
I'm hoping that next week, Blair embraces this side properly and doesn't allow Dan to stop her. And if he magically decides that he likes the devious side of her, then it makes NO SENSE how he completely judged Serena over and over for the same things!
I'm really not a Dan hater, I've just found these inconsistencies irritating, including the way he encourages Blair to be this person that no one else wants her to be. The fact that he helps her t
Madeleine
April 24th, 2012 3:06 PM
Let's be honest here; Dair are the right couple at the moment because Blair has no idea what on earth she's doing and needs someone to lean on, who in turn likes to play the hero.
While we've seen Dan's feelings grow from dislike to tolerance to like to love, we haven't seen any of this growth from Blair. We've literally seen her go from liking him as a friend, to her telling him (and the audience) that she's with him romantically - without us being shown this journey. Therefore I'm very skeptical about how true these feelings really are; it seems more like Blair is enamored with Dan's ability to sit by her and forgive her anything, then for HIM as a three-dimensional purpose.
So for now Dair is good; Blair has a comfort figure, who she likes but never has to feel frightened by the strength of her love for him, and hopefully this will be the support she needs to 'find herself'. Atm, Blair doesn't deserve to get Chuck back - as wonderfully explained by Elise, Chuck has apologised an
Zoran
April 24th, 2012 2:50 PM
Really that's enough. When you mention the characters in the series, there was always someone to prove that the characters have become mature people. Our heroes have progressed from high school, but in that they become other people with the same names as our heroes! By millionth time, they can not changed characters without losing the base character that they had at the beginning of the series. Now our heroes have no connection with those of the pre season 2-3.
adge
April 24th, 2012 2:49 PM
I always thought of Blair and Dan like Jackie and Eric from That 70's Show. Dan and Eric are the boyfriend (ex-boyfriend) of Jackie and Blair best friends. Always hated each other, spoke alone about a few times. And no one ever thought they'd date, just like Dan and Blair, cause it's just wrong. Now imagine Jackie and Eric dating. How gross is that? That's exactly Dan and Blair. But clearly the writers on That 70's Show were much more intelligent and didn't ruin the show like the Gossip Girl writers did by making them get together. Anyone else agree?
stephy
April 24th, 2012 2:45 PM
@carda name one reason why you say blair has grown up? she is still insecure, she doesnt even know who she is..she is beyond pathethic now..which is a shame she used to be my fav character..but now she is just iritating to watch. She said last night in between being traded for a hotel and selling out for a tiara she lost her self..thats not growth that imature for not taking responsabilty for her own choices. She put her self in those situations and now she cant even find herself with out the help of a man? wow! they really messed her up.
Zoran
April 24th, 2012 2:35 PM
@Brian
Lecturing for free, what happened happened. Dan and Blair can have sex, except when they discuss about the books, only when they drunk whiskey and vodka. And since then there is no mention of sex. So that is about friends with no sex! They satisfy enough with books, because they have 70 years!
Lm
April 24th, 2012 2:27 PM
For cripes can we stop with the let's go back to the golden age of S1/S2. The show was excellent then - no disputing of that fact but we are at S5 and if these characters hadn't changed and moved on from high school I would've stopped watching a long time ago. If you're comparing Dair to the drama of Chair then of course it's going to be pale in comparison but they have completely different dynamics and I quite like the touching sweetness of Dair for the moment. The ship rants are getting so old and no one can come up with a rational deconstruction without bashing characters and other fans. It's a real shame.
thefan
April 24th, 2012 2:17 PM
Since when are Dan and Blair an "equal" partnership while Chuck and Blair were not?? I think the writer of this article meant to say that the "new" Blair is in an equal partnership with Dan. The "old" Blair was also in an equal partnership with Chuck. The real Blair loves her UES life, her money, her superficial friends and all that goes with it, including Chuck Bass!!!
Now, will those idiot GG writers pleeeaaase go back to reality and give us back our real characters, with the real firey romance (Chair) and all the bells and whistles that come with it, already!!!
Brian
April 24th, 2012 2:13 PM
@Zoran "barrel of whiskey" - That would fit Chuck's alcoholic way better, doesn't it? Didn't Blair appear in a robe together with Dan at the beginning? Why don't you google the word "subtext" and get back to me on that sex remark.
Serena: Congratulations, you've officially joined the dark side.
Rank: Leading Character
April 24th, 2012 7:53 PM
I don't know what show Safran was watching, but that was NOT vintage Blair! That was some foolish, pretentious, silly school girl, and it was so hard to watch because the girl has no pride left. Even Dan was embarrassed by her behavior. She must be having some kind of emotional breakdown.
April 24th, 2012 7:47 PM
@gg4 .0 are you racest?
April 24th, 2012 7:42 PM
My gosh I could just vomit all over my screen right now with Lily's speech about Rufus finding another UES woman to take care of him... where is the woman who just ONE episode ago was talking about getting a new apartment that could fit both of their lifestyles? I really really would like to know where that bitter, evil Lily came from.
April 24th, 2012 6:37 PM
question for dair shippers (i am actually just really curious):
1. do you not think that chuck loves blair for blair bc that seems to be the main justificationn of dan and blair's relationship? THAT USED TO BE THE REASON CHUCK LIKED BLAIR WHICH MAKES ME FURIOUS!! ITS LIKE THEY ARE TRYING TO COPY EVERYTHING WE LOVED ABOUT CHAIR INTO DAIR
2. do you really think that chuck and blair were not equals when they were dating? at least blair was in college...
3. you do realize that the w magazine job was after the hotel trading thing so blair obviously didn't lose her self due to chuck?
4. dan has not been friends with the "real" blair waldorf yet so do you really think he will like what he sees? (especially after hating that blair in season 1-3 when she banished his sister and a lot of other stuff)
SO MUCH INCONSISTENCY IT KILLS ME!! I DONT RECOGNIZE DAN OR BLAIR ANYMORE!!!! gossip girl is going down hill I'm sorry
April 24th, 2012 6:25 PM
Gossip Girl is back on track!!!!!!Scheming succcessful, complicated relationsips, sex secrets and lies and finally...Blair came back toher senses
(From what i saw next week is going to be magnificent!) Blair is the heart of GG, no matter whose she's with(i am chair fan but Dan was so adorable in this ep i have the decency to admit)that's the show we know we love! XOXO
April 24th, 2012 5:52 PM
GossipGirlFan, to quote Blair "...somehow between being traded for a hotel and selling out for a tiara I lost my true self but I wanna be found, could you possibly help me?" Since your name claims you are a fan of the show, you should know Dan's response to that statement @W magazine. Feel free to also cast your mind back to season 4 and where Dan sabotaged B and got both of them fired from W before he righted his wrong. Did you per chance say she wasn't pining over Chuck? Do you remember Raina and how Blair was pining over Chuck and oblivious/in denial over his feeling for Raina? I think I am now convinced Ban fans started watching the show from 4th or 5th season.
April 24th, 2012 5:51 PM
Blair has realised she has become a lesser version of herself and has acknowledged that her toxic relationships with Louis and Chuck are to blame. She knows Dan loves her for her and can help her become the strong, independent woman she was. So my question is if she knows all this why would she want to go back to Chuck who has essentially turned her into a person she doesn't like and is trying to fix?
April 24th, 2012 5:07 PM
W showed she was all this things. she got the place at w with no connections but her own determination. she sabotaged her competition classic Blair. she replaced epperly and treated her interns as minions. she was definitely not lost Blair then probably due to her friendship with Dan and the fact she wasn't pining over Chuck for once
April 24th, 2012 5:04 PM
Blair may have lost herself after Chuck traded her for a hotel. Dan fell for the strong and independent Blair who is capable of anything. Her time at
April 24th, 2012 4:46 PM
(Cont...)
She said that she and Chuck couldn't be together yet because she needed to be Blair Waldorf first - she isn't that person now! So it feels like she's just rediscovering herself so that she can be ready to be with Chuck, so that she can be strong and secure in herself and admit her own part in their downfall so that they can move on. If Dan helps her do that, then so be it - he has been a great FRIEND to her.
All these reasons as to why she's acting as she is and why she's so happy now with Dan are all contradictory and don't add up! I'd be a lot more believing if I felt like there was any substance to the arguments.
April 24th, 2012 4:45 PM
People have got to stop saying that Blair and Dan are 'equals' in their relationship! They simply aren't because Blair is this sad excuse of herself - which she has even acknowledged. They can not be equal while Blair is struggling to find herself, to rediscover her ambition and to regain her confidence.
Those scenes where it's just the two of them and they're being sweet are just that - sweet. But the true B loves to be the respected, admired Queen of society and she hasn't been able to achieve this recently, even with Dan etc. Maybe she will get there but she HAS NOT YET.
(Cont...)
April 24th, 2012 4:41 PM
GossipGirlFan I wish Dan was as forgiving and understanding of Serena when he also claimed to love the real her. @ your comment, "Dan fell for her strength and independence": Dan claimed he fell in love with Blair while they were both at W magazine. That period was when Blair claimed she lost herself since it came after Chuck traded her for a hotel/She chose to trade sex for a hotel without knowing she had been traded+ selling out for a tiara to live her princess dream. In a nutshell, Dan loves the lost Blair.
April 24th, 2012 4:12 PM
Dair are cute they just don't work on GG any other show but their relationship makes Blairs character bomb completely.
Dair fans are Dan fans not Blair cos this version of her is pitiful. Unfortunately the writers don't see it.
I just want the super Blair back and this thing with Dan just doesn't work on this show.
Blair and Serena BFF's for endgame and a new found friendship with Chuck he's going to need it!
April 24th, 2012 4:04 PM
I definitely believe Blair can find her true self with Dan. He truly loves Blair for Blair. Having been on the receiving end of many a Waldorf scheme he knows she has a dark side but recognises that it is her own insecurities that feed it. Her relationships with Chuck and Louis have reduced her to a shadow of her former self because she was literally living in their shadows. She became Chuck's property and Louis's prisoner but with Dan she can finally be with someone who sees her as his equal and who loves the fact that they are equal. He knows her latest scheme is fuelled by her own self-doubt and he tells her how strong and independent she is. Dan fell for her strength and independence and when she sees herself through his eyes it makes her want to be the better version of herself.
April 24th, 2012 3:50 PM
@Elisa
I agree with you. You can not expect big changes by the end of the season. But what has been announced should happen. Dan should tell Blair that he loves her and that she does not answer to him what he expected. This is one of the changes that can disrupt between Dan and Blair, who is scheduled to be the end of the season. Also, going or not going to Rome by Dan should happen, and this can have consequences compared to Blair and Dan. And of course, for me a very important issue which the two boys will have a romance with Serena until the end of the season?
April 24th, 2012 3:23 PM
@Zoran, I totally agree with your last comment.
Well, you immediately understood that I am very angry at the moment, just because I really can't stand this situation at all. It's not just because of Dair itself (even though my dislike for Dan helps a little), but what the writers did to make it. And all these expextations about this "pure and simple love" are actually blown out in less than an episode. I mean, I don't know if the writers meant it to be this way (which I actually hope), but this couple has just so many problems and even Blair admitted twice that maybe they shouldn't be together.
I don't know what to think anymore, so I just keep my fingers crossed, maybe something (of course not everything, since there are just 3 episodes left) will actually change. I'm very hopeful about next episode (the promo sounds very interesting and I can see a glimpse of the old Blair)and, moreover, about those Chair pictures at the casino...
April 24th, 2012 3:10 PM
Also - why is there SUCH inconsistency in the way Dan treats Blair and the way he treated Serena? He never gave Serena the true trust and acceptance as he's given Blair. It seems like Dan doesn't REALLY accept Blair for who she is, he just knows that at the moment she's this weak version of herself. Therefore, if she tries to reclaim herself and do something sneaky or slightly bitchy, he can just scold her and 'forgive her' for being her true self - and then she, being so weak and alone, apologises and goes back to being that part of her.
I'm hoping that next week, Blair embraces this side properly and doesn't allow Dan to stop her. And if he magically decides that he likes the devious side of her, then it makes NO SENSE how he completely judged Serena over and over for the same things!
I'm really not a Dan hater, I've just found these inconsistencies irritating, including the way he encourages Blair to be this person that no one else wants her to be. The fact that he helps her t
April 24th, 2012 3:06 PM
Let's be honest here; Dair are the right couple at the moment because Blair has no idea what on earth she's doing and needs someone to lean on, who in turn likes to play the hero.
While we've seen Dan's feelings grow from dislike to tolerance to like to love, we haven't seen any of this growth from Blair. We've literally seen her go from liking him as a friend, to her telling him (and the audience) that she's with him romantically - without us being shown this journey. Therefore I'm very skeptical about how true these feelings really are; it seems more like Blair is enamored with Dan's ability to sit by her and forgive her anything, then for HIM as a three-dimensional purpose.
So for now Dair is good; Blair has a comfort figure, who she likes but never has to feel frightened by the strength of her love for him, and hopefully this will be the support she needs to 'find herself'. Atm, Blair doesn't deserve to get Chuck back - as wonderfully explained by Elise, Chuck has apologised an
April 24th, 2012 2:50 PM
Really that's enough. When you mention the characters in the series, there was always someone to prove that the characters have become mature people. Our heroes have progressed from high school, but in that they become other people with the same names as our heroes! By millionth time, they can not changed characters without losing the base character that they had at the beginning of the series. Now our heroes have no connection with those of the pre season 2-3.
April 24th, 2012 2:49 PM
I always thought of Blair and Dan like Jackie and Eric from That 70's Show. Dan and Eric are the boyfriend (ex-boyfriend) of Jackie and Blair best friends. Always hated each other, spoke alone about a few times. And no one ever thought they'd date, just like Dan and Blair, cause it's just wrong. Now imagine Jackie and Eric dating. How gross is that? That's exactly Dan and Blair. But clearly the writers on That 70's Show were much more intelligent and didn't ruin the show like the Gossip Girl writers did by making them get together. Anyone else agree?
April 24th, 2012 2:45 PM
@carda name one reason why you say blair has grown up? she is still insecure, she doesnt even know who she is..she is beyond pathethic now..which is a shame she used to be my fav character..but now she is just iritating to watch. She said last night in between being traded for a hotel and selling out for a tiara she lost her self..thats not growth that imature for not taking responsabilty for her own choices. She put her self in those situations and now she cant even find herself with out the help of a man? wow! they really messed her up.
April 24th, 2012 2:35 PM
@Brian
Lecturing for free, what happened happened. Dan and Blair can have sex, except when they discuss about the books, only when they drunk whiskey and vodka. And since then there is no mention of sex. So that is about friends with no sex! They satisfy enough with books, because they have 70 years!
April 24th, 2012 2:27 PM
For cripes can we stop with the let's go back to the golden age of S1/S2. The show was excellent then - no disputing of that fact but we are at S5 and if these characters hadn't changed and moved on from high school I would've stopped watching a long time ago. If you're comparing Dair to the drama of Chair then of course it's going to be pale in comparison but they have completely different dynamics and I quite like the touching sweetness of Dair for the moment. The ship rants are getting so old and no one can come up with a rational deconstruction without bashing characters and other fans. It's a real shame.
April 24th, 2012 2:17 PM
Since when are Dan and Blair an "equal" partnership while Chuck and Blair were not?? I think the writer of this article meant to say that the "new" Blair is in an equal partnership with Dan. The "old" Blair was also in an equal partnership with Chuck. The real Blair loves her UES life, her money, her superficial friends and all that goes with it, including Chuck Bass!!!
Now, will those idiot GG writers pleeeaaase go back to reality and give us back our real characters, with the real firey romance (Chair) and all the bells and whistles that come with it, already!!!
April 24th, 2012 2:13 PM
@Zoran "barrel of whiskey" - That would fit Chuck's alcoholic way better, doesn't it? Didn't Blair appear in a robe together with Dan at the beginning? Why don't you google the word "subtext" and get back to me on that sex remark.