Despicable GG. I cannot believe a tv show has the ability to upset me so much. The worst part is I dare not tell my friends I watch GG talk less of sharing my displeasure with the complete mess it has become. For the love of all things good, why is the hotel incident suddenly the reason Blair lost herself? Sure Chuck traded her to Jack BUT she didn't know that when she CHOSE to trade sex for property. Blair was as terrible as Chuck. I mean, what if Chuck hadn't traded her for a hotel and she slept with Jack to get Chuck his hotel back, does that make her less of a manipulative b**ch? This hotel biz needs to ends asap since she forgave him & even sabotaged him & Eva. She should have hooked up with Dan & left Chuck with Eva pls. Enough of this crap!
Btw I don't know if it's just me but I think lily is justified for univiting Rufus to the dinner. I know he's lily's husband and all but since the issues there were mostly about the Rhodes and VDWs rufus doesn't need to be there. At least that's what I thought. And he should really get off of his high horse IMO. She married lily he knows how she is he should just accept those shortcomings and try to right them and not judge it.
Kopassus
April 24th, 2012 6:39 AM
"traded for a hotel" she doesn't forget what he did to her. & she know that chuck is not good for her life.
Can you imagine somebody else playing Serena other than her? And sometimes she makes me believe she really is Serena it seems so natural to her even leighton playing Blair.
I've always thought Blake can be a pretty good actress if she's given the right material. I mean I don't get why people say she so bad when in fact she's playing Serena van der woodsen for Pete's sake. And I think if she's not good she won't be able to pull this character well.
I really liked this episode. But it totally broke my heart when I saw
Serena and her father confrontation on the streets. Daddy vdw has really been an awful father to Serena. Another thing I really love is this scheming lily. Very calculated and heartless I like this side of lily once in awhile. Now that Lola has the gg password what do you think will she do with it? Will she be GG 4.0? Also now i'm more confuse more than ever with chuck's familial issue can't the writers think of any other SL about chuck ? I mean isn't it enough that he doesn't know who is real mother is now he's not even sure about who his real father is?! Give him a break please. Can't he have just a simple problem like which tie goes with what coat? also, I was expecting more of Serena as GG but as always I'm disappointed with the writers.
gg
April 24th, 2012 6:23 AM
@pty Blair was annoying until her final scene with Dan. She embarrassed herself at the function and was incredibly selfish. At least that was explained though. However only partially in my mind due to B not mentioning losing the baby. Now while her actions at the party make sense, many of her interactions with Dan don't. Like in the beginning when he leaned in for in a kiss? What was that? I find her often to be condescending and dismissive towards him. I don't know what they're going for in those scenes.
@Renee I thought Blake was great. I especially liked her scene with William at the end and also when she got her bitch on towards Lola (mean but well done acting wise). Like the rest of the cast, I think all she needs is some decent material to shine.
Renee
April 24th, 2012 6:09 AM
Thank God at least Serena has become really interesting this season. Blake is doing some fine acting thus far. She has managed to distract me from all this Chair/Dair madness. I can't wait to see what is next for her especially when the the season finale comes. Apparently, there are reports indicating that this final episode revolves around her.
mimi
April 24th, 2012 6:07 AM
OMG!! Guess Chuck n Blair will be reunited very soon.. Finally I'm happy.
gg
April 24th, 2012 6:03 AM
@db Oh I definitely agree with you. It seems everyone aside from Nate is unhappy to a certain degree. Both Serena and Blair are lost right now and I find it incredibly sad they don't talk to one another anymore. I don't get why Blairena can't share scenes because Dair is happening? I think Chuck and Serena's misery was more apparent to me because it was dwelled on for like 10 episodes straight. Most of Chuck and Serena's closing scenes have them staring blankly into some dark abyss. I've liked Serena as GG 3.0 since at least she's not so damn sad all the time. Now only part of the time! ha. I know they're doing this to evoke sympathy for the characters but it's not fun to watch and, ironically, the one terrible thing the actually needs to be addressed (the miscarriage) has been pushed under the rug. JMO of course.
pty
April 24th, 2012 6:00 AM
Until a couple weeks ago we used to have a CB troll around here, now it seems we have a DB troll, such a shame.
Blair really was despicable this episode. Regardless of shipping, I think we can all agree that what she did was horrible and uncalled for, and not at all like her former self, which shows these writers don't know what they are doing and talking about.
Going back to the shipping issue, I agree with Dr. Holland and others saying that this is actually something that shows the flaws in the Dair relationship, where Dan easily forgives something like this, because he has been enabling Blair childlish streak. And until this episode he was also enabling her "head buried in the sand" streak and we can even argue there is still some of that considering he didn't point out the miscarriage, a major faux paux in writing and storytelling in this scene in my opinion. He might not be so judgy with Blair like he's with others and it seems he has warmed to some aspects of her persona
Zoran
April 24th, 2012 5:52 AM
@db
I agree with you about Chuck and Blair. Also, I agree that there will be a break with friends without sex (Dan and Blair). However, I am afraid that the producers and writers are not completely finished with Dan and Blair. Something tells me that in season 6 we can see a triangle Chuck-Blair-Dan, which was copy from season 4 Dan-Serena-Nate. Then, in season four, failed love triangle, so I think that will in the future.
moe
April 24th, 2012 5:49 AM
1. I thought the writer's said Dan had a thing for B since High School? Now it's since working at W
2. Why in the world would Chuck ask for B's help with anything!!! especially after the way she treated him when he went to her house for advice????
the writer's suck.....
db
April 24th, 2012 5:37 AM
@ Zoran i did say that DAIR are best friends that couldn't have been more different in personality but share the same interests and decided to have a relationship. but remember i didn't say they will not fail. i actually think that this DAIR relationship is just a phase before the real end game. that's why i'm not hating on it too much because i believe it will pass. because i also believe somewhere deep in blair's heart is her love for chuck. i see DAIR as something like the stefan and elena love story something pure and will always be good for blair and CHAIR as something like damon and elena.
Zoran
April 24th, 2012 5:26 AM
@db
I agree with you that the love between Serena and Dan was a kind of fairy tale. Also, I agree that Dan and Blair are not lovers, I call them - friends who do not practice sex! But I disagree about the relationship Dan and Blair. Remember the Chuck and Blair, and Nate and Serena, and Dan and Vanessa were first friends, and had many common interests and their relationship failed. Here I exclude that Chuck and Blair, because I think their relationship is not over. Friendship and common interests are not a recipe to a successful love relationship. This was said Dan, about Vanessa and him, while he was talking with Serena in the final episode of season 3. I still think that only Serena and Dan deserve each other!
db
April 24th, 2012 5:26 AM
@gg i don't think chuck is the only miserable character i think blair and serena are miserable too. serena's life and whole world is falling apart she seems to be isolated and worse is that she's in this very difficult situation and she has no one, even blair to talk to. blair on the one hand , is miserable in the sense that she even admit that she lost herself. it's nice he ask dan to help her find herself. but lonely boy should be careful because if blair somehow find herself,he might not like what she'll find.
gg
April 24th, 2012 5:16 AM
Whoops. In the last comment I meant the emo Chuck Safran loves not Savage!
@greekfan lol! Maybe if he finds out who his mom is and Bart returns, we'll see Chuck's oedipal complex come out. Could be an interesting pay-off?
gg
April 24th, 2012 5:10 AM
@db I think most of us miss how the show used to be. How could we not? It was fresh, fun and clever. Now it's dull and stale. About Chuck: In the beginning of the season, I thought these writers were finally finding a way to blend the snarky Chuck that Schwartz and co. created with the later seasons emo Chuck that Savage loves. Especially in the premiere and and then in the Dan/Chuck interactions (I loved their weird pseudo friendship). Now it's all misery all the time with Chuck. It's a travesty what they're doing to Blair but all of the characters have been out of sorts.
Zoran
April 24th, 2012 5:07 AM
@db
I'm glad you're Serena fan. I also really like the character of Serena. But I think we disagree on the issue with whom would Serena should be. I've already written about it that Dan was for Serena the only guy worth being with her. All the others were with Serena because they wanted something from her, money, position on the UES. Or is Serena was with them because she thought that owed them something (Carter, Aaron, Nate, Ben). The only boyfriend who wanted to be with Serena because of her was Dan. Of course, since the two were from different social classes - there have been misunderstandings. However, I think Serena and Dan are old enough to raise their relationship to the final level. Nevertheless, Serena is love of his life, and Dan is love of her life.
greekfan
April 24th, 2012 5:00 AM
Sasha.if it was a greek tragedy Chuck would have slept with his mother and killed his father...
db
April 24th, 2012 4:55 AM
@gg i miss him too. i even miss all the chuck bass pun that was aplenty during S1 and S2 like motherchucker, basstard, basshole and the like. that's why i kinda miss josh schwartz and stephanie savage writing for the show because because they are clever writers unlike now.
db
April 24th, 2012 4:51 AM
@Zoran and of course DAIR will never have the same magic as say DERENA or CHAIR because the dynamics of each relationship is different. Derena was a fairytale of some sort, he UES it girl falling for a brooklyn boy. CHAIR's vibe is more about passion, great and twisted love story between two people who has mutual love for scheming. DAIR on the other hand has this vibe of two best friends that couldn't have been more different in personality but share the same interests and decided to have a relationship.
ps i can't say that DAIR is in love with each other i think dan is, but since 3 words 8 letters has been exchanged between the two and there are spoilers that said one may not be ready to jump in yet. this love story is still up for debate.
gg
April 24th, 2012 4:46 AM
@Master.mikmik I miss snarky S1-S2 Chuck too. I'm unclear about what it is that made you not be able to look at him though? I can think of plenty instances but don't know which you're talking about.
I don't see them pulling toward Chair. Spoilers in mind, I think they are pulling away from them possibly for good this time.
db
April 24th, 2012 4:40 AM
@Zoran actaully Zoran i'm not a DAIR fan i'm a big Serena fan. i just felt like after all that's happen between dan and serena. serena needs to be with someone else. and i only said that i wish serena would find someone just like how dan is with blair is because that's the way i wanted her to be treated. no judgment just accept her the way she is. and after several seasons i think it will be hard, albeit not impossible to bring back the same dynamics dan and serena have during the first two seasons.
Zoran
April 24th, 2012 4:29 AM
@db
Thanks to the recapitulation. You're a fan of Dan and Blair, and I am a big fan of Serena and Dan. Simply we are on opposite sides. Dan and Blair will never have what they had Serena and Dan. I still think that love story between Serena and Dan is not over!
Serena: Congratulations, you've officially joined the dark side.
April 24th, 2012 7:04 AM
Despicable GG. I cannot believe a tv show has the ability to upset me so much. The worst part is I dare not tell my friends I watch GG talk less of sharing my displeasure with the complete mess it has become. For the love of all things good, why is the hotel incident suddenly the reason Blair lost herself? Sure Chuck traded her to Jack BUT she didn't know that when she CHOSE to trade sex for property. Blair was as terrible as Chuck. I mean, what if Chuck hadn't traded her for a hotel and she slept with Jack to get Chuck his hotel back, does that make her less of a manipulative b**ch? This hotel biz needs to ends asap since she forgave him & even sabotaged him & Eva. She should have hooked up with Dan & left Chuck with Eva pls. Enough of this crap!
Rank: Guest Star
April 24th, 2012 6:40 AM
Btw I don't know if it's just me but I think lily is justified for univiting Rufus to the dinner. I know he's lily's husband and all but since the issues there were mostly about the Rhodes and VDWs rufus doesn't need to be there. At least that's what I thought. And he should really get off of his high horse IMO. She married lily he knows how she is he should just accept those shortcomings and try to right them and not judge it.
April 24th, 2012 6:39 AM
"traded for a hotel" she doesn't forget what he did to her. & she know that chuck is not good for her life.
Rank: Guest Star
April 24th, 2012 6:33 AM
Can you imagine somebody else playing Serena other than her? And sometimes she makes me believe she really is Serena it seems so natural to her even leighton playing Blair.
Rank: Guest Star
April 24th, 2012 6:31 AM
I've always thought Blake can be a pretty good actress if she's given the right material. I mean I don't get why people say she so bad when in fact she's playing Serena van der woodsen for Pete's sake. And I think if she's not good she won't be able to pull this character well.
Rank: Guest Star
April 24th, 2012 6:28 AM
I really liked this episode. But it totally broke my heart when I saw
Serena and her father confrontation on the streets. Daddy vdw has really been an awful father to Serena. Another thing I really love is this scheming lily. Very calculated and heartless I like this side of lily once in awhile. Now that Lola has the gg password what do you think will she do with it? Will she be GG 4.0? Also now i'm more confuse more than ever with chuck's familial issue can't the writers think of any other SL about chuck ? I mean isn't it enough that he doesn't know who is real mother is now he's not even sure about who his real father is?! Give him a break please. Can't he have just a simple problem like which tie goes with what coat? also, I was expecting more of Serena as GG but as always I'm disappointed with the writers.
April 24th, 2012 6:23 AM
@pty Blair was annoying until her final scene with Dan. She embarrassed herself at the function and was incredibly selfish. At least that was explained though. However only partially in my mind due to B not mentioning losing the baby. Now while her actions at the party make sense, many of her interactions with Dan don't. Like in the beginning when he leaned in for in a kiss? What was that? I find her often to be condescending and dismissive towards him. I don't know what they're going for in those scenes.
@Renee I thought Blake was great. I especially liked her scene with William at the end and also when she got her bitch on towards Lola (mean but well done acting wise). Like the rest of the cast, I think all she needs is some decent material to shine.
April 24th, 2012 6:09 AM
Thank God at least Serena has become really interesting this season. Blake is doing some fine acting thus far. She has managed to distract me from all this Chair/Dair madness. I can't wait to see what is next for her especially when the the season finale comes. Apparently, there are reports indicating that this final episode revolves around her.
April 24th, 2012 6:07 AM
OMG!! Guess Chuck n Blair will be reunited very soon.. Finally I'm happy.
April 24th, 2012 6:03 AM
@db Oh I definitely agree with you. It seems everyone aside from Nate is unhappy to a certain degree. Both Serena and Blair are lost right now and I find it incredibly sad they don't talk to one another anymore. I don't get why Blairena can't share scenes because Dair is happening? I think Chuck and Serena's misery was more apparent to me because it was dwelled on for like 10 episodes straight. Most of Chuck and Serena's closing scenes have them staring blankly into some dark abyss. I've liked Serena as GG 3.0 since at least she's not so damn sad all the time. Now only part of the time! ha. I know they're doing this to evoke sympathy for the characters but it's not fun to watch and, ironically, the one terrible thing the actually needs to be addressed (the miscarriage) has been pushed under the rug. JMO of course.
April 24th, 2012 6:00 AM
Until a couple weeks ago we used to have a CB troll around here, now it seems we have a DB troll, such a shame.
Blair really was despicable this episode. Regardless of shipping, I think we can all agree that what she did was horrible and uncalled for, and not at all like her former self, which shows these writers don't know what they are doing and talking about.
Going back to the shipping issue, I agree with Dr. Holland and others saying that this is actually something that shows the flaws in the Dair relationship, where Dan easily forgives something like this, because he has been enabling Blair childlish streak. And until this episode he was also enabling her "head buried in the sand" streak and we can even argue there is still some of that considering he didn't point out the miscarriage, a major faux paux in writing and storytelling in this scene in my opinion. He might not be so judgy with Blair like he's with others and it seems he has warmed to some aspects of her persona
April 24th, 2012 5:52 AM
@db
I agree with you about Chuck and Blair. Also, I agree that there will be a break with friends without sex (Dan and Blair). However, I am afraid that the producers and writers are not completely finished with Dan and Blair. Something tells me that in season 6 we can see a triangle Chuck-Blair-Dan, which was copy from season 4 Dan-Serena-Nate. Then, in season four, failed love triangle, so I think that will in the future.
April 24th, 2012 5:49 AM
1. I thought the writer's said Dan had a thing for B since High School? Now it's since working at W
2. Why in the world would Chuck ask for B's help with anything!!! especially after the way she treated him when he went to her house for advice????
the writer's suck.....
April 24th, 2012 5:37 AM
@ Zoran i did say that DAIR are best friends that couldn't have been more different in personality but share the same interests and decided to have a relationship. but remember i didn't say they will not fail. i actually think that this DAIR relationship is just a phase before the real end game. that's why i'm not hating on it too much because i believe it will pass. because i also believe somewhere deep in blair's heart is her love for chuck. i see DAIR as something like the stefan and elena love story something pure and will always be good for blair and CHAIR as something like damon and elena.
April 24th, 2012 5:26 AM
@db
I agree with you that the love between Serena and Dan was a kind of fairy tale. Also, I agree that Dan and Blair are not lovers, I call them - friends who do not practice sex! But I disagree about the relationship Dan and Blair. Remember the Chuck and Blair, and Nate and Serena, and Dan and Vanessa were first friends, and had many common interests and their relationship failed. Here I exclude that Chuck and Blair, because I think their relationship is not over. Friendship and common interests are not a recipe to a successful love relationship. This was said Dan, about Vanessa and him, while he was talking with Serena in the final episode of season 3. I still think that only Serena and Dan deserve each other!
April 24th, 2012 5:26 AM
@gg i don't think chuck is the only miserable character i think blair and serena are miserable too. serena's life and whole world is falling apart she seems to be isolated and worse is that she's in this very difficult situation and she has no one, even blair to talk to. blair on the one hand , is miserable in the sense that she even admit that she lost herself. it's nice he ask dan to help her find herself. but lonely boy should be careful because if blair somehow find herself,he might not like what she'll find.
April 24th, 2012 5:16 AM
Whoops. In the last comment I meant the emo Chuck Safran loves not Savage!
@greekfan lol! Maybe if he finds out who his mom is and Bart returns, we'll see Chuck's oedipal complex come out. Could be an interesting pay-off?
April 24th, 2012 5:10 AM
@db I think most of us miss how the show used to be. How could we not? It was fresh, fun and clever. Now it's dull and stale. About Chuck: In the beginning of the season, I thought these writers were finally finding a way to blend the snarky Chuck that Schwartz and co. created with the later seasons emo Chuck that Savage loves. Especially in the premiere and and then in the Dan/Chuck interactions (I loved their weird pseudo friendship). Now it's all misery all the time with Chuck. It's a travesty what they're doing to Blair but all of the characters have been out of sorts.
April 24th, 2012 5:07 AM
@db
I'm glad you're Serena fan. I also really like the character of Serena. But I think we disagree on the issue with whom would Serena should be. I've already written about it that Dan was for Serena the only guy worth being with her. All the others were with Serena because they wanted something from her, money, position on the UES. Or is Serena was with them because she thought that owed them something (Carter, Aaron, Nate, Ben). The only boyfriend who wanted to be with Serena because of her was Dan. Of course, since the two were from different social classes - there have been misunderstandings. However, I think Serena and Dan are old enough to raise their relationship to the final level. Nevertheless, Serena is love of his life, and Dan is love of her life.
April 24th, 2012 5:00 AM
Sasha.if it was a greek tragedy Chuck would have slept with his mother and killed his father...
April 24th, 2012 4:55 AM
@gg i miss him too. i even miss all the chuck bass pun that was aplenty during S1 and S2 like motherchucker, basstard, basshole and the like. that's why i kinda miss josh schwartz and stephanie savage writing for the show because because they are clever writers unlike now.
April 24th, 2012 4:51 AM
@Zoran and of course DAIR will never have the same magic as say DERENA or CHAIR because the dynamics of each relationship is different. Derena was a fairytale of some sort, he UES it girl falling for a brooklyn boy. CHAIR's vibe is more about passion, great and twisted love story between two people who has mutual love for scheming. DAIR on the other hand has this vibe of two best friends that couldn't have been more different in personality but share the same interests and decided to have a relationship.
ps i can't say that DAIR is in love with each other i think dan is, but since 3 words 8 letters has been exchanged between the two and there are spoilers that said one may not be ready to jump in yet. this love story is still up for debate.
April 24th, 2012 4:46 AM
@Master.mikmik I miss snarky S1-S2 Chuck too. I'm unclear about what it is that made you not be able to look at him though? I can think of plenty instances but don't know which you're talking about.
I don't see them pulling toward Chair. Spoilers in mind, I think they are pulling away from them possibly for good this time.
April 24th, 2012 4:40 AM
@Zoran actaully Zoran i'm not a DAIR fan i'm a big Serena fan. i just felt like after all that's happen between dan and serena. serena needs to be with someone else. and i only said that i wish serena would find someone just like how dan is with blair is because that's the way i wanted her to be treated. no judgment just accept her the way she is. and after several seasons i think it will be hard, albeit not impossible to bring back the same dynamics dan and serena have during the first two seasons.
April 24th, 2012 4:29 AM
@db
Thanks to the recapitulation. You're a fan of Dan and Blair, and I am a big fan of Serena and Dan. Simply we are on opposite sides. Dan and Blair will never have what they had Serena and Dan. I still think that love story between Serena and Dan is not over!