Mad Men Review: Mystery Halluci-date Comments (Page 2)
24 Comments
Kathy
April 9th, 2012 12:33 PM
I remember that story from the 60's of the guy who killed the 8 nurses...so a theme was "under the bed" .... The surviving nurse hid under the bed, Don put the strangled girlfriend under his bed, Sally hid under the bed/couch, lots of people sleeping....Don with his cold sleeping...Don's new secretary sleeping on his office couch and then on Peggy's couch, Joan sleeping and tired, Roger sleeping on his office recliner. LOVED THIS EPISODE!
Betty Draper Rank: Recurring Character
April 9th, 2012 10:18 AM
I really don't like Megan either but her reactions were actually quite normal this episode. She was good at handling the situation, she didn't make a big scene but she let Don know it will never be ok that he was (or maybe still is) a cheater. And she wasn't bossy but worried when she told him to stop smoking and to go home. Oh, I can't believe I'm defending Megan, I called her evil the last episode haha.
Don was so desperate in his dream, desperate to keep his image of his new marriage and his new self as clean and perfect as possible but you can't run away from who you are. He maybe should deal with his problem in a therapy or something cause he still has big issues.
My favorite part was with Sally and Pauline, they were hilarious.
And I'm really glad Greg is gone, I just don't get how he couldn't put two and two together and see that the baby is too young to be his.
I thought this was one of the best episodes of the series as it has the characters struggling for survival. The only interpretation of Don's dream that I will make is this: is he killing off his desires to cheat? I liked that Joan told her husband its over, but was expecting to her to tell him it's not his baby, I also want her back at work interacting with the other characters. I am also beginning to like Roger more as he has to make deals to keep up. His lines are the best of the show. I also wonder if this episode sets the stage for a dark turn in the characters story lines. Placing these first three episodes against the current events of the time show how the characters are experiencing the same things the country is times are changing in a dramatic way and everyone is struggling to survive.
[Anyway I like your observation about him not being afraid to cheat out of love for Megan but because he's scared to fail (and be alone) again. He wouldn't have left Betty on his own, I don't think he ever thought they would split up - not because he loved her so much but because he can't be alone and he always knew that Betty was] at home waiting for him. But then she quit waiting for him and he moved out and he was miserable. That's the only explanation why he married Megan so quickly. He thought she's good with the kids and she's good-looking enough so he can marry her and have someone he can come home to again and who cares for him. An that's exactly what she does, she's being the wife. Ofc she's not the "fun" sexy secretary anymore - she got what she wanted and now she's Don's wife. Why would this contradict her character? In fact it's displayed very accurately.
Actually half-expected to see his new wife lying dead
@ Mia, ofc she's upset and why wouldn't she be? The fact she cheated with him makes it even worse for her because she knows how easily he hops in bed with someone else - and that someone once was her. It doesn't matter what she did before she is his wife now and she would be naive to think that this fact keeps Don from cheating and she must know that it will eventually happen again. Betty didn't "drive" him to cheat, he is a cheater, that's just something in his nature and to be honest I wasn't surprised at all when he gave in to Andrea in his hallucination. I've been waiting for him to cheat since the season started and it's gonna happen sooner or later.
Anyway I like your observation about him not being afraid to cheat out of love for Megan but because he's scared to fail (and be alone) again. He wouldn't have left Betty on his own, I don't think he ever thought they would split up - not because he loved her so much but because he can't be alone and he always knew that Betty was a
@Mia, ofc she's upset and why wouldn't she be? The fact she cheated with him makes it even worse for her because she knows how easily he hops in bed with someone else - and that someone once was her. It doesn't matter what she did before she is his wife now and she would be naive to think that this fact keeps Don from cheating and she must know that it will eventually happen again. Betty didn't "drive" him to cheat, he is a cheater, that's just something in his nature and to be honest I wasn't surprised at all when he gave in to Andrea in his hallucination. I've been waiting for him to cheat since the season started and it's gonna happen sooner or later.
Anyway I like your observation about him not being afraid to cheat out of love for Megan but because he's scared to fail (and be alone) again. He wouldn't have left Betty on his own, I don't think he ever thought they would split up - not because he loved her so much but because he can't be alone and he always knew that Betty was at
Mia
April 9th, 2012 4:41 AM
Don and Megan's story line is quickly becoming very boring. It doesn't make sense that Megan, someone who knowingly seduced him while he had a girlfriend, is upset when they run into former flames. Where's the Megan who cleaned-up knocked over milkshakes and tossed awards. Where's the Megan who still slept with a man, knowing the mess he created with a former secretary and declared she just wanted to be with him, she wasn't expecting anything more. Did anyone noticed how bossy she was when she told Don not to smoke. I don't see the creative reasoning behind making her this annoying contradiction of her former self.
It's very evident that Don's fear of cheating on her is not out of love, but because he doesn't want to fail at life again. And that fear is slowly emasculating him, anyhow unfortunately it seems Megan is here until the end, either hers or his, which mega sucks!
Sally and the Grams was very entertaining, and the comical aspect of the new copywriter is so spot-on. Pegg
carol
April 9th, 2012 4:39 AM
We had a tv with a remote control, it had 3 buttons 2 for volume and 1 for channel selection. I could not wait to show it off to my friends at the time, and they were all very impressed.
arbo
April 9th, 2012 1:23 AM
I found Don's hallucinations boring tbh. Actually half-expected to see his new wife lying dead on the floor the next morning.
The best part of the episode for me was when the daughter and grandmother bonded over the serial killer news, and then split a sleeping pill with the butcher knife 'burglar alarm' close by.
And yeah, I found the accordion loudly playing while everybody was fighting to be quite amusing. Btw, Joan is no angel either - she had Roger's baby after all.
leenokinnee Rank: Guest Star
April 9th, 2012 1:01 AM
I love that Joan and Greg are done...but I'm not sure that I love the way it was done. She goes from planning his welcome home meal to kicking him out in one day's time? I guess I just didn't expect that to happen in this episode. With that said, Christina Hendricks was fantastic in this episode. Good for you, Joan, for kicking that jerk to the curb!
ka
April 9th, 2012 12:58 AM
@ karen
i think we're at the mid-late 60's
and to answer your question, there were remote controls back then....
i think it started in the 50's
karen hillebrand
April 9th, 2012 12:41 AM
Were there remote controls for television in the early 60s?
Thor Winnipeg
April 9th, 2012 12:30 AM
You're right about the accordian scene - hilarious and brilliant. I loved the line from mom, "Joanie plays the accordian, too."
Pete: Don't act like you had a plan. You're Tarzan, swinging from vine to vine.
April 9th, 2012 12:33 PM
I remember that story from the 60's of the guy who killed the 8 nurses...so a theme was "under the bed" .... The surviving nurse hid under the bed, Don put the strangled girlfriend under his bed, Sally hid under the bed/couch, lots of people sleeping....Don with his cold sleeping...Don's new secretary sleeping on his office couch and then on Peggy's couch, Joan sleeping and tired, Roger sleeping on his office recliner. LOVED THIS EPISODE!
Rank: Recurring Character
April 9th, 2012 10:18 AM
I really don't like Megan either but her reactions were actually quite normal this episode. She was good at handling the situation, she didn't make a big scene but she let Don know it will never be ok that he was (or maybe still is) a cheater. And she wasn't bossy but worried when she told him to stop smoking and to go home. Oh, I can't believe I'm defending Megan, I called her evil the last episode haha.
Don was so desperate in his dream, desperate to keep his image of his new marriage and his new self as clean and perfect as possible but you can't run away from who you are. He maybe should deal with his problem in a therapy or something cause he still has big issues.
My favorite part was with Sally and Pauline, they were hilarious.
And I'm really glad Greg is gone, I just don't get how he couldn't put two and two together and see that the baby is too young to be his.
Rank: Extra
April 9th, 2012 10:07 AM
I thought this was one of the best episodes of the series as it has the characters struggling for survival. The only interpretation of Don's dream that I will make is this: is he killing off his desires to cheat? I liked that Joan told her husband its over, but was expecting to her to tell him it's not his baby, I also want her back at work interacting with the other characters. I am also beginning to like Roger more as he has to make deals to keep up. His lines are the best of the show. I also wonder if this episode sets the stage for a dark turn in the characters story lines. Placing these first three episodes against the current events of the time show how the characters are experiencing the same things the country is times are changing in a dramatic way and everyone is struggling to survive.
Rank: Leading Character
April 9th, 2012 10:03 AM
Actually half-expected to see his new wife lying dead on the floor the next morning.
I know, right?
I actually hoped that this would happen. I can't exactly stand Megan...
Rank: Leading Character
April 9th, 2012 10:03 AM
Urgh, stupid TVF cut of the rest of my comment...
[Anyway I like your observation about him not being afraid to cheat out of love for Megan but because he's scared to fail (and be alone) again. He wouldn't have left Betty on his own, I don't think he ever thought they would split up - not because he loved her so much but because he can't be alone and he always knew that Betty was] at home waiting for him. But then she quit waiting for him and he moved out and he was miserable. That's the only explanation why he married Megan so quickly. He thought she's good with the kids and she's good-looking enough so he can marry her and have someone he can come home to again and who cares for him. An that's exactly what she does, she's being the wife. Ofc she's not the "fun" sexy secretary anymore - she got what she wanted and now she's Don's wife. Why would this contradict her character? In fact it's displayed very accurately.
Actually half-expected to see his new wife lying dead
Rank: Leading Character
April 9th, 2012 10:01 AM
@ Mia, ofc she's upset and why wouldn't she be? The fact she cheated with him makes it even worse for her because she knows how easily he hops in bed with someone else - and that someone once was her. It doesn't matter what she did before she is his wife now and she would be naive to think that this fact keeps Don from cheating and she must know that it will eventually happen again. Betty didn't "drive" him to cheat, he is a cheater, that's just something in his nature and to be honest I wasn't surprised at all when he gave in to Andrea in his hallucination. I've been waiting for him to cheat since the season started and it's gonna happen sooner or later.
Anyway I like your observation about him not being afraid to cheat out of love for Megan but because he's scared to fail (and be alone) again. He wouldn't have left Betty on his own, I don't think he ever thought they would split up - not because he loved her so much but because he can't be alone and he always knew that Betty was a
Rank: Leading Character
April 9th, 2012 10:00 AM
@Mia, ofc she's upset and why wouldn't she be? The fact she cheated with him makes it even worse for her because she knows how easily he hops in bed with someone else - and that someone once was her. It doesn't matter what she did before she is his wife now and she would be naive to think that this fact keeps Don from cheating and she must know that it will eventually happen again. Betty didn't "drive" him to cheat, he is a cheater, that's just something in his nature and to be honest I wasn't surprised at all when he gave in to Andrea in his hallucination. I've been waiting for him to cheat since the season started and it's gonna happen sooner or later.
Anyway I like your observation about him not being afraid to cheat out of love for Megan but because he's scared to fail (and be alone) again. He wouldn't have left Betty on his own, I don't think he ever thought they would split up - not because he loved her so much but because he can't be alone and he always knew that Betty was at
April 9th, 2012 4:41 AM
Don and Megan's story line is quickly becoming very boring. It doesn't make sense that Megan, someone who knowingly seduced him while he had a girlfriend, is upset when they run into former flames. Where's the Megan who cleaned-up knocked over milkshakes and tossed awards. Where's the Megan who still slept with a man, knowing the mess he created with a former secretary and declared she just wanted to be with him, she wasn't expecting anything more. Did anyone noticed how bossy she was when she told Don not to smoke. I don't see the creative reasoning behind making her this annoying contradiction of her former self.
It's very evident that Don's fear of cheating on her is not out of love, but because he doesn't want to fail at life again. And that fear is slowly emasculating him, anyhow unfortunately it seems Megan is here until the end, either hers or his, which mega sucks!
Sally and the Grams was very entertaining, and the comical aspect of the new copywriter is so spot-on. Pegg
April 9th, 2012 4:39 AM
We had a tv with a remote control, it had 3 buttons 2 for volume and 1 for channel selection. I could not wait to show it off to my friends at the time, and they were all very impressed.
April 9th, 2012 1:23 AM
I found Don's hallucinations boring tbh. Actually half-expected to see his new wife lying dead on the floor the next morning.
The best part of the episode for me was when the daughter and grandmother bonded over the serial killer news, and then split a sleeping pill with the butcher knife 'burglar alarm' close by.
And yeah, I found the accordion loudly playing while everybody was fighting to be quite amusing. Btw, Joan is no angel either - she had Roger's baby after all.
Rank: Guest Star
April 9th, 2012 1:01 AM
I love that Joan and Greg are done...but I'm not sure that I love the way it was done. She goes from planning his welcome home meal to kicking him out in one day's time? I guess I just didn't expect that to happen in this episode. With that said, Christina Hendricks was fantastic in this episode. Good for you, Joan, for kicking that jerk to the curb!
April 9th, 2012 12:58 AM
@ karen
i think we're at the mid-late 60's
and to answer your question, there were remote controls back then....
i think it started in the 50's
April 9th, 2012 12:41 AM
Were there remote controls for television in the early 60s?
April 9th, 2012 12:30 AM
You're right about the accordian scene - hilarious and brilliant. I loved the line from mom, "Joanie plays the accordian, too."