Ugh, I love this show, but Ivy gets on my last nerve! She and Karen won't be friends. Shouldn't be friends.
Tom should dump the Republican. For real.
I never understood why Julia was messing around with Michael in the first place. So what, he wants you, big deal, that is what masturbation is for.
SuzyQ
April 3rd, 2012 1:47 PM
PART 2 (Hate character limit, TVFanatic!)...
Watch THE VOICE if you want to see singers being coached on technique. Watch SMASH to see how the personal informs and inspires creative output.
The only nitpick I had w/this episode is that Ivy is so immature for a performer who should be more seasoned. The character has theatre roots. Her mom cautioned her on all the pitfalls and didn't even want her to get into the business. So, her whining about a newcomer who gets a juice commercial comes across as a big pity party. How did someone this weak and sensitive survive on Broadway all these years? Don't you have to be stronger and more resilient? Geez, Louise, everyone knew it was a WORKSHOP. The chorus knew the chances of it becoming a real musical are low. The behavior just doesn't ring true to the character - a veteran member of the chorus, with a Broadway legacy, who knows the score and has more experience.
SuzyQ
April 3rd, 2012 1:38 PM
Very good episode. I really enjoyed what was basically a straight dramatic episode with one featured song. Karen in her green commercial frog suit was hilarious. And, watching Ellis' ambition take shape into action was thought-provoking. You can't put a label on him, as in "hetero" or "homo." "Power hungry maniac who will sleep w/anyone to get ahead" is the most accurate. When SMASH was described as having an "All About Eve" plot, I never thought the "Eve" part would be given to a guy who wants to produce. But, I like it! Even more, I like that Eileen knows exactly who Ellis is and how she can use HIS ambition to further HER goals.
Would it be too much for this reviewer to quit with the nonsense criticism that SMASH should drop the "personal storylines and concentrate on the musical." They are one and the same! This show would have been cancelled fast if all we saw were prop crew building sets, meetings with bankers, and rehearsals. Watch THE VOICE if you want to see si
La_Mosca
April 3rd, 2012 11:38 AM
I love this episode. Best one since the pilot. I want to see the orange juice commercial. Silly Julia, no one has an affair by accident and I really felt for Frank when he confronted her, and I cheered when Frank landed a punch on Michael. Speaking of punches, Karen should have punched Ivy when she started her "woe is me" self pity, mama was mean to me behavior. In fact I was mentally egging Karen to whack the bitch. If it was me, I would have done it.
I really enjoyed this episode.
Once again Ivy was queen beyotch! She puts so much time and effort into hating and dissing Karen that if she would have applied that much time and energy into her career I think she would have been a star on Broadway a long time ago, however she is super insecure and I do not think she could ever handle the lead in any musical. That other girl ( I should know her name by now) has a bigger part in Heaven on Earth than Ivy does so I wonder why she never tried out for Marilyn.
I like Tom and John, however I see Sam and Tom becoming a couple.
As for Ellis, we all know he is not straight but putting up a front for some reason. He has no problem sleeping with a guy to get what he wants. I also liked that after doing so Eileen did not agree to make him co producer, she can put him in his place and he has no witty comeback for her!!
I am so happy that Karen told Ivy that Derek wanted to sleep with her first, Ivy needed a wake up call! However Ivy
Rose
April 3rd, 2012 9:24 AM
i'm with stbob.. i was very confused that Frank figured out the "love song" was about an affair.. I though that he must have known about the previous affair...and then when Michael made the reference to it being over "a long time ago" he seemed sooo shocked. I think Frank would've stayed if he had only known about the recent betrayel. But finding out that Julia had an affair before and with the same man, just was tooo much for him. I don't blame him for leaving. Leo's heartfelt plea broke me though...I thought the episode was all around good. Julia's affair to me wasn't a poor story arc.. people have affairs for a number of reasons... all we know is it happened before, she fell in love with him, maybe her and Frank at that point were going through a tough time... we don't know.. we can only imagine
Robyn
April 3rd, 2012 9:18 AM
It seemed completely out of character to me to see Karen and Ivy signing it up and acting all chummy - just came out of no where....still really like this show though!
Terrie Rank: Regular Character
April 3rd, 2012 9:16 AM
Con't HATE THE CHARACTER CUT OFF
This episode was one of the best of the season (other than Ton and John and politics)...........
Terrie Rank: Regular Character
April 3rd, 2012 9:14 AM
Who DIDN'T see that coming between Julia and Frank????? I'm not sure I buy him finding a song she wrote leading him to believe or think she'd had an affair. But, she owned up to it and thus the fallout began.
LOVED LOVED LOVED Eileen putting Ellis in his place. That was the best part of the whole show last night. Ellis is going to be his own downfall and I, for one, can't wait for that to happen.
I still can't stand IVY. And NO, I definitely don't think her and Karen will ever be friends. I do see Ivy and Derrick getting in yet another argument since Ivy knows now that he went for Karen first.
I don't think politics has a place in this show. I don't care about Tom being gay OR his gay REPUBLICAN boyfriend. It adds nothing to the story in my opinion.
I was thinking last night, Katharine McPhee can sing, don't get me wrong. But is she just coming across as just bland? Maybe she's supposed to because of her character...........I don't know.
This episode was one of the be
StBob
April 3rd, 2012 8:17 AM
Why would Frank be so sure that Julia had had an affair on the basis of a love song she wrote when she writes songs, including love songs, for a living? Very contrived.
Tanner1511 Rank: Recurring Character
April 3rd, 2012 3:48 AM
Ellis must go!!!
I liked the episode. solid but not great and I think that is because I also missed the musical aspect of it!
April 3rd, 2012 2:03 PM
Ugh, I love this show, but Ivy gets on my last nerve! She and Karen won't be friends. Shouldn't be friends.
Tom should dump the Republican. For real.
I never understood why Julia was messing around with Michael in the first place. So what, he wants you, big deal, that is what masturbation is for.
April 3rd, 2012 1:47 PM
PART 2 (Hate character limit, TVFanatic!)...
Watch THE VOICE if you want to see singers being coached on technique. Watch SMASH to see how the personal informs and inspires creative output.
The only nitpick I had w/this episode is that Ivy is so immature for a performer who should be more seasoned. The character has theatre roots. Her mom cautioned her on all the pitfalls and didn't even want her to get into the business. So, her whining about a newcomer who gets a juice commercial comes across as a big pity party. How did someone this weak and sensitive survive on Broadway all these years? Don't you have to be stronger and more resilient? Geez, Louise, everyone knew it was a WORKSHOP. The chorus knew the chances of it becoming a real musical are low. The behavior just doesn't ring true to the character - a veteran member of the chorus, with a Broadway legacy, who knows the score and has more experience.
April 3rd, 2012 1:38 PM
Very good episode. I really enjoyed what was basically a straight dramatic episode with one featured song. Karen in her green commercial frog suit was hilarious. And, watching Ellis' ambition take shape into action was thought-provoking. You can't put a label on him, as in "hetero" or "homo." "Power hungry maniac who will sleep w/anyone to get ahead" is the most accurate. When SMASH was described as having an "All About Eve" plot, I never thought the "Eve" part would be given to a guy who wants to produce. But, I like it! Even more, I like that Eileen knows exactly who Ellis is and how she can use HIS ambition to further HER goals.
Would it be too much for this reviewer to quit with the nonsense criticism that SMASH should drop the "personal storylines and concentrate on the musical." They are one and the same! This show would have been cancelled fast if all we saw were prop crew building sets, meetings with bankers, and rehearsals. Watch THE VOICE if you want to see si
April 3rd, 2012 11:38 AM
I love this episode. Best one since the pilot. I want to see the orange juice commercial. Silly Julia, no one has an affair by accident and I really felt for Frank when he confronted her, and I cheered when Frank landed a punch on Michael. Speaking of punches, Karen should have punched Ivy when she started her "woe is me" self pity, mama was mean to me behavior. In fact I was mentally egging Karen to whack the bitch. If it was me, I would have done it.
Rank: Regular Character
April 3rd, 2012 10:44 AM
I really enjoyed this episode.
Once again Ivy was queen beyotch! She puts so much time and effort into hating and dissing Karen that if she would have applied that much time and energy into her career I think she would have been a star on Broadway a long time ago, however she is super insecure and I do not think she could ever handle the lead in any musical. That other girl ( I should know her name by now) has a bigger part in Heaven on Earth than Ivy does so I wonder why she never tried out for Marilyn.
I like Tom and John, however I see Sam and Tom becoming a couple.
As for Ellis, we all know he is not straight but putting up a front for some reason. He has no problem sleeping with a guy to get what he wants. I also liked that after doing so Eileen did not agree to make him co producer, she can put him in his place and he has no witty comeback for her!!
I am so happy that Karen told Ivy that Derek wanted to sleep with her first, Ivy needed a wake up call! However Ivy
April 3rd, 2012 9:24 AM
i'm with stbob.. i was very confused that Frank figured out the "love song" was about an affair.. I though that he must have known about the previous affair...and then when Michael made the reference to it being over "a long time ago" he seemed sooo shocked. I think Frank would've stayed if he had only known about the recent betrayel. But finding out that Julia had an affair before and with the same man, just was tooo much for him. I don't blame him for leaving. Leo's heartfelt plea broke me though...I thought the episode was all around good. Julia's affair to me wasn't a poor story arc.. people have affairs for a number of reasons... all we know is it happened before, she fell in love with him, maybe her and Frank at that point were going through a tough time... we don't know.. we can only imagine
April 3rd, 2012 9:18 AM
It seemed completely out of character to me to see Karen and Ivy signing it up and acting all chummy - just came out of no where....still really like this show though!
Rank: Regular Character
April 3rd, 2012 9:16 AM
Con't HATE THE CHARACTER CUT OFF
This episode was one of the best of the season (other than Ton and John and politics)...........
Rank: Regular Character
April 3rd, 2012 9:14 AM
Who DIDN'T see that coming between Julia and Frank????? I'm not sure I buy him finding a song she wrote leading him to believe or think she'd had an affair. But, she owned up to it and thus the fallout began.
LOVED LOVED LOVED Eileen putting Ellis in his place. That was the best part of the whole show last night. Ellis is going to be his own downfall and I, for one, can't wait for that to happen.
I still can't stand IVY. And NO, I definitely don't think her and Karen will ever be friends. I do see Ivy and Derrick getting in yet another argument since Ivy knows now that he went for Karen first.
I don't think politics has a place in this show. I don't care about Tom being gay OR his gay REPUBLICAN boyfriend. It adds nothing to the story in my opinion.
I was thinking last night, Katharine McPhee can sing, don't get me wrong. But is she just coming across as just bland? Maybe she's supposed to because of her character...........I don't know.
This episode was one of the be
April 3rd, 2012 8:17 AM
Why would Frank be so sure that Julia had had an affair on the basis of a love song she wrote when she writes songs, including love songs, for a living? Very contrived.
Rank: Recurring Character
April 3rd, 2012 3:48 AM
Ellis must go!!!
I liked the episode. solid but not great and I think that is because I also missed the musical aspect of it!
Loved ivy and karen singing Cheers!