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I disagree wholeheartedly with this article. The DV topic was on point, and an important topic for young girls leaving high school and finding their way in the real world. The biggest complaint I have about this ep is that MORE attention should have been paid to the DV topic and less to Puck's story line. It felt disjointed. I'm hoping this topic will continue into the next ep seeing as how despite the lesson, Beiste went back to her husband.
I LOVE Glee and am another fan that will watch to the show until it dies a rating related death. The problem (for me at least) is that I fell in love with this show because of the amazing music, great acting, and solid story lines that made me anticipate each new episode. I knew that some plots would get a resolution, some story lines would be moved farther along, and new plot twists would be introduced.
Now it seems like every other episode has some unnecessary after school special plot moment that comes out of left field.
This episode could have been unfreakinbelievable. The auditions and Pucks situations were both major plot points that anyone who is graduating soon (or like me graduated some time ago) can relate to. Throwing the domestic violence story line into the mix completely threw me for a loop.
The actors did an amazing job considering the heavy handed way the writers introduced the story (you'd think I'd be used to being beat over the head with the latest hot
@Charmed-Jenna: But that's the entire problem: Puck's failing his test had the same screen time as a storyline about DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. You can't just casually touch on such a monumental topic such as that and write it off as the C-plot of an episode. Talk about tone deaf. Talk about showing utter disrespect to anyone who has actually gone through this horrible situation.
IF you are going to bring up this sort of storyline - and does anyone understand why Glee feels a need to do so? - then, my goodness, you need to give it the attention it deserves.
As for Puck's storyline and the NYADA auditions, it makes me wonder if this is the route the writers are planning on going to justify characters like Rachel/Puck/Finn for sticking around through next season. If that's the case, they have no faith in the remaining cast members who aren't "graduating" this season. In my opinion, this feels like a contrived way to keep the audience interested beyond an abysmal season 3 into season 4 in hopes that Glee will not turn into another "OC" and fall into oblivion after next season. As a side note, though Kurt's audition was very good, it was too convenient and ridiculous to make us believe that he would "change his mind" at the last second to take that risk and have his background dancers, different costume under his first one, and band ready to perform that song. Another example of hypocrisy by the Glee writers wanting the audience to take them serious by putting out serious subjects, then throwing out that ridiculous "improvisation" by Kurt
I actually felt bad for rachel as soon as she messed up I was like aww she should be the one to go to new york and I also like the two song santana,mercedes,tina,brittany,and sugar was singing mostly santan,mercedes,and tina on the second one and I knew that the coach was going to go back to him its sad but that is reality.
Whether its Matt or Miranda, it doesn't matter, because they are both correct. Glee has gone from that entertaining, solid plotlines, song-filled, episodic program from a couple years ago to the PSA of the week. Granted, again, as she stated, there were some semblances of the early Glee throughout the episode, namely the NYADA auditions. However, the domestic violence issue was so far out there that it ruined the entire episode. If the writers do not include that issue, but keep everything else, then this is one of the better episodes in a long time, but that was not the case. I will give the writers this one credit in logical dialogue when the swim coach totally berated the girls of the glee club for singing a song that completely missed the point of strength and overcoming obstacles. That song was the exact opposite, and it did not allow me to enjoy what the girls were wearing because the song was so ridiculous. As for Puck's storyline and the NYADA auditions, it makes me wond
Let me start of by saying that I do respect your opinion, Miranda, but feel like you stared yourself blind at the whole PSA part of the episode. Puck's storyline and the Nyada audtions had equal screentime and they were absolutely AMAZING!!!! I even, dare I say it, enjoyed the PSA this week, but I think that's because Dot sold it so well. The acting in this episode I think was amazing, Dot and Lea are brilliant and I was brought to tears more than once during the course of this ep. "Cry" was absolutely wonderful. Looking back, this was actually quite depressing, I think this is the first time in this season, that almost all of the storylines ended with no "happy" ending. Sad, but amzing at the same time.
I think where the writers are going astray this season is that they are trying to put too many subplots into each episode, so it all feels choppy and disjointed. You don't have time to get invested in a storyline before it's over, and they are just inserting random storylines without any logic or ties from the character's personalities/history. Coach Beiste as a domestic violence victim? She was always a voice of reason, tender hearted and yet with great strength of character. She'd never be a victim, and though the writers tried to play that off with her saying she's afraid no one would ever love her, it didn't ring true that she'd be one to allow that to happen to her. (NO offense to Dot Marie, who is fantastic as always no matter what they give her to portray.) They've delegated Finn to being just a prop for Rachel, there to hold her hand and smile adoringly at her. He has gotten boring, which pains me as I love his character, or what it used to be. They've done the same to Bri
I compleetly agree with this review, the PSA was so out of nowhere, that it did not cary any weight with it. Maybe if they had spent time building up towards this (haha like Glee would ever do that) it would have worked. As it was it seemed like just an excuse to sing those two songs and make Ryan Murphy feel like he is doing something important. And where was Quinn? I did like the sceenes with the guys though.
alden: fair question. I don't know, Glee is really special to me and it hurt a little when I would come here to see other people's opinions only to read negatives after negatives from the same person. I know that it's not perfect but I also know that there's at least ONE positive thing each week, and it made me start to think I was just a delusional fangirl or something.
I get more worked up about this than I should, I know. I just wanted to say it was a nice change to see both sides pointed out this week.
besides Coach Beiste's storyline I loved this episode. I don't think Beiste's story doesn't belong in Glee but it was totally out of the left field which is why I didn't like it. For once I felt really bad for Rachel.
Why does it matter to you so much, Amber? it's a review, it's a persons opinion, if your opinion is worth something to you, it shouldn't be affected by another's.
I thought for sure that Rachel would get in, and I think I was pleasantly surprised that the tables were turned and Kurt became the champion that Rachel was. I still have a feeling that she'll get into NYADA at some point anyways though.
To end, can we PLEASE keep the change in reviewers this time? Please? This is finally a good happy medium!
Ah, another nice change. Maybe this is a happy medium between the always negative and the 99% positive. This is positive + negative = fair and better review.
But I would like to point out that yes, we did know Puck's dad was a deadbeat. It was mentioned several times in season 1 and I believe once in season 2.
I actually thought that the Beiste storyline was well handled. Maybe back in season 1 when Glee was fluffy and all about the underdogs getting their chance to shine, this storyline wouldn't belong. But Glee has an audience now and I think it wants to use its power now to say something. I'm glad they didn't make it into a huge joke like in season 1 (sue-icide).
Chris Colfer has made me fall in love with him all over again with those two performances. I LOVE Phantom and I've wanted him to do a song from it since I first heard him sing. Not the Boy Next Door was absolutely amazing and I can watch that man dance for DAYS.
I thought for sure that Rachel would get in, and I thin
I'd like to preface this comment by saying that (believe it or not) I am a Glee fan and will continue to watch until the painful end (which may be next season if the show continues on its current trajectory). I agree with every word of this review. In typical season three format we see the formula that the writers have been using for quite some time now: 3 or more storylines, one being Glee-esque and mildly enjoyable, one being fitting, but not great, and one being a psa that seems to be pulled out of someone's ass. This episode, in my opinion, was saved thanks to my fairly low expectations of late, the Kurt/Rachel storyline (which really was a nice throwback to Glee days of yore), and "Shake it Off." At this point, the season is a wash. My hope (albeit extremely unrealistic) is that the powers that be actually do troll sights like this, see some of the excellent criticisms being made, and get back to making (what was once) a really fun show to watch. Here's hoping season 4 is a
The music was awful (particularly Pucks songs, Audrey Hepburn just rolled over in her grave, and she lip-synced in the movie!!!), the plot itself just depressed me. Tried to watch 'New Girl' afterwards and even that failed to cheer me up (which NEVER normally happens, I blame Glee).
I'm sticking with the show till the end of THIS season (no idea why, probably a glutton for punishment) but then I'm out, I'm amazed I'm still watching. All this buddy-love and cheerfulness makes me want to gag and it's contrasted with depressing plots like tonights episode, too much. If I want sappy teen crud where people burst into vomit-inducing song that's what High School Musical is for!
Very well said Marisa1983. I feel the same. I know I will always continue to watch even though I miss the only story telling. But I see the disappointment of others and I fear that there are not enough people like us to keep it going. If they don't get their stuff together there won't be a season 5. I'm not bashing the show or saying I don't enjoy it or don't want to wash it.
Can teachers not learn life lessons without their students?
I didn't really like Puck's songs or his story. I don't think i was necessary for his dad to be there (I'd rather have seen the boys just confront him) and it grossed me out when he was kissing on his teachers neck. I didn't like The Rain in Spain but I liked the idea of it. It was a similar situation to the original but with a twist.
I loved all of the Rachael and Kurt stuff. Especially him saying he loved her at the end. Lea is amazing and had me in tears several times.
I normally agree with Matt's reviews but don't actually feel bothered by Glee's poor storylines/lack of story arcs. But this episode was just too much for me and I agree with Miranda. I felt like Bieste's story came out of nowhere and really did prove that the show feels compelled to include these PSA's. But I do agree that the great thing about it was Shake It Off. The girls sang it wonderfully. And I too am glad it wasn't all wrapped up and maybe this is the start of a longer arc. But I was annoyed by yet another scene where someone tells Will "his kids" were doing something he didn't believe they would do and where they get sat down and preached to (they even said that this time)and then in the end they actually teach the grown ups a lesson (even if Bieste lied when she told them that). I'm not a teacher but really do students really impact their teachers lives this much? Can teachers not learn life lessons without their students?
I didn't really like Puck's songs or his story. I
Just for your information, Matt did not review this episode, it was Miranda. Even when they changed the reviewer the last couple of months, the show got bad reviews. That says something... She is right, we don't get built-up storylines anymore like we did in season 1. Remember Quinn's pregnancy and Terry's fake one? The anticipation of when Shuester would find out? The sparkles between Will and Emma that made us wonder when they would get together? The very built-up romance of Rachel and Finn? I do and I've been missing that in Glee. For a long time. And I think the reviewers do too. While episodes can be entertaining, the series as a whole is not what it used to be. And trust me, this comes from a big fan of the show who still watches it hoping it will come back to its former glory. I am still watching, but a lot of people stopped. The ratings have gotten lower and lower this season and there's a reason for it, unfortunately...
At the start of the episode I was actually looking forward to seeing what the episode would bring - with that acapella music and the monologue, it felt more like Glee before it completely derailed in season 2.
I'm pretty much 100% certain that by some miracle Rachel will manage to get into NYADA. I was actually half-expecting Whoopi to show up at the end of her song with an excuse like "I forgot my bag, that was incredible, you're in!"
The Bieste stuff came out of nowhere at all. We literally haven't seen her since she got married, and now she just rocks up one day to deliver a heartfelt sermon about domestic violence??
I did, however, like the fact that the writers managed to give secondary characters like Tina and Sugar some more screentime by lumping them all together in the Bieste sub-plot. It's nice to see some plots that involve more than one of the 'main' characters.
I'd also like to point out to some of the people complaining about the review that Matt didn't actu
Obviously I didn't read who wrote this article. I'm used to just reading Matt reviews, that I didn't pay attention this time. Sorry Matt and Miranda if it seemed like I was bashing you. I wasn't, but that's hard to get across through a computer. Sorry again.
Its not Matt doing the Review peeps, its Miranda - Yes there is more than one blogger willing to pan Glee for their poor story telling techniques.
Its always been obvious to me that Kurt would end up in Nyada and Rachel wouldn't. Everything in Kurt's life has been portrayed in a good way. He got off lightly in season 1 when he creepily came onto Finn. he has the perfect boyfriend who has never cheated on him, he got his audition letter before Rachel. Even during the bullying fiasco we were told to feel sorry for him, despite alot of other equally as bad cases of bullying gone unchecked. Ryan Murphy's agenda is clear.
@Max, I did say, at least twice, that this episode felt like a throwback to the old days of the show. And truly, it did. But it left me longing for the old days of the show more than it renewed my faith in the current writers.
No need to bash on Matt. There's a new reviewer in town for Glee. I do, however, share a quite a few of his sympathies regarding the nosedive the writing has taken this season.
I'm bothered by Beiste's SIDE story because it should've been just that. A SIDE story. Kurt and Rachel SHOULD HAVE been the sole focus of this episode but, once again, the writers tried to do too much in one hour. One of the things that bothers me about Beiste's story and the interaction with the students is that the lines are all blurry at McKinley about just what, exactly, are normal student-teacher interactions. I can assure you that this isn't it. Had that story only involved Sue and Roz, and maybe Will, sure. But not the students.
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