I must have missed the covenant that said being a Grimm gets passed down like a superpower. In the first two episodes it was clear that there a few Grimms in the world as well as a few Reapers. So where did the mythos that "Grimmdom" came down on the death of a familty member? Maybe it a talent that takes time to debelope. Cleary from the finale Nick's mother didn't have to be dead for him to inherit his Grimmness.
pbjgirl
May 22nd, 2012 2:40 AM
I see a lot of comments wanting to be rid of Hank and Juliette. I think they are necessary to the story. Nick has to have some balance in his life. Nick is still a police officer and a Grimm. Hank is his partner. I like the story arc for Hank, though I don't think the show is showing the depth of a police officer partnership. Juliette has her special veterinary skills that will come in as useful if she makes it through the cat scratch fever. I see Juliette partnering with Rosalie. We've seen Hank slowly slide into insanity from the cookies, then coins episodes through the last. Remember, Hank is very honorable, he wouldn't cross the line a date Adalind. This may be a lesson for Nick, that his life is very dangerous to those around him and it is cruel to expose someone to that life daily and not take them into your confidence. Hank has been left open to cling onto anyone that offers him an explanation and restores his sanity. If Nick doesn't reveal all to Hank, someone else will and Nic
I guess no one actually read the intro to the episode. About the "Snow White" reference about sleeping. I think the cat was the poisoned apple.
Overall I loved the episode especially after seeing it again. Certainly opens up all kinds of stuff for next season.
farsia2010 Rank: Recurring Character
May 21st, 2012 4:45 AM
Ummm, people just thought of sth, if mommy dearest is alive then how did the Grimm gift pass to Aunt Mary??
franniemae
May 20th, 2012 8:12 PM
And yes, i did crack up at the shot of Hank loaded for bear in his home.
funny
franniemae
May 20th, 2012 8:10 PM
And not to mention Renard is the most interesting character... and he's hot.
franniemae
May 20th, 2012 8:07 PM
wow Farsia2010 encapsulated all my thoughts about Hank and Juliette... please kill them both. Can't tell if it's just crappy character writing or the actors are just yuck. blah!
Richard
May 20th, 2012 8:38 AM
I enjoyed the finale. The reveal to Juliette scene, disappointing.
Hopes for the future...Less Hank, or at least, an interesting Hank. More Adalind please.She is deliciously wicked. Juliette in a coma for the entirety of season 2. And for goodness sake, do something with Renard--great character!
Monroe and Rosalee, awesome.
farsia2010 Rank: Recurring Character
May 20th, 2012 2:48 AM
i wanted to say sth last time but forgot, another reason the finale didn't cut it for me is because 2 of the cliffhangers were about characters that i either don't care about or want to die. Juliette and Hank. i just don't care about them so i am not worried about their wellbeing. they can live they can die, whatever, just as long as they leave the show. and next season maybe Nick will get a good looking girl for a change not sb who looks older than him. he looks like he is a prince but she looks like Cinderella's ugly stepsister and Hank should die already! the actor has such a heavy presence that it sucks all energy out of the shot and makes it hard to smile or even breath.
joyeful Rank: Regular Character
May 19th, 2012 11:38 PM
Hank: Okay - am I the only one that burst out laughing at the scene with Hank and his weapons of Wesen destruction? I'm sorry, but the only times I can tolerate him are when he's at the precinct. Other than that...well, I can hope for better in the next season.
Renard: I'm a little disappointed that we didn't get to see more of his agenda. At this point I don't think there's any possibility that he's a Wesen, but he's some kind of human power-wielder.
Great review, Mr. McHatton. Good call on Nick's power-ups being related to the visual stimulus of the Wesen's face, I'm going to watch the reruns for clues LOL. I also agree with the timing - there was a lot, though I loved it. It might have been better as a 90 min finale.
joyeful Rank: Regular Character
May 19th, 2012 11:32 PM
Okay - I loved this finale. It was exciting, maddening, bad-ass, cliff-hanging; it was everything I would want from a season finale. Good job, Grimm.
Starting with Nick: I loved the scene where he was telling Juliette the truth. You can really see how he's embraced it all by how enthusiastic he was getting. Also, his "power-up" in the final scene when he wiped the floor with Akira - what an awesome scene. I kind of figured that the woman in black was his mother, but I'm glad we had the reveal anyway - I'm looking forward to those explanations.
Juliette/Monroe: Of course Juliette thinks the man is nuts! That was acted really, really well by Bitsie Tulloch. Again, looking forward to seeing how she wakes up, and what happens with that cat. As always, Monroe is one of the strongest links in the show.
DiamondLife Rank: Guest Star
May 19th, 2012 9:35 PM
OK.
2 things:
Why didn't Renard turn? Or why didn't Akira recognize him as royalty like all the others that have come to Portland?
And, curious to see Momma's reaction to Nick's take on Grimm/Wessen relations and his friend Monroe(especially with all he knows).
Great finale and can't wait to see where things go from here!
Simone
May 19th, 2012 7:44 PM
@KansasGuest
You misread what I wrote. I never said that there was one Grimm "in the entire world."
This is what I said:
I can't wait to see how the writers explain how there can be more than one Grimm in a family with powers. They always strongly implied that Nick came into his powers because Marie was dying.
Cathleen
May 19th, 2012 7:38 PM
As for Juliette, I never saw it coming! Some of us have speculated that she might have undiscovered Grimm or Wesen abilities, but the idea of her being transformed is intriguing. Will her transformation be permanent, if this is what happened? If a regular human can be made Wesen, does that mean they'll try it with others? Have Adalind's powers been restored, or did someone else put a hex on her cat's claws?
And speaking of the cat, I remember a past episode during which Hank and Adalind double-dated with Juliette and Nick. Adalind told Juliette the breed of cat she had, and Juliette exclaimed that it's a rare, ancient breed. Nick's reaction implied that it's a typical witches' cat or maybe even a type of Wesen itself. Maybe there are shape-shifter Wesen or Wesen that stay in animal form most of the time? It really opens up all sorts of possibilities and makes me want to see what happens in Season Two.
Cathleen
May 19th, 2012 7:28 PM
It's funny: I wasn't that thrilled with the Aunt Marie character (although obviously she was crucial to Nick's and the audience's understanding of what a Grimm is), yet it seems like a good time for another Grimm to come into the series to further explain/train Nick. Monroe is great, but Nick depends on him so much. Bringing in another Grimm now makes sense--and for her to Nick's mother? Even better.
I agree with the person who said it was dangerous for Nick to bring Juliette to the trailer. She might mention it while in the hospital or discuss her concerns about Nick to a "friend" who happens to be Wesen. And does anyone else feel like Nick is vulnerable every time he's in the trailer? Could he at least put shades up on the windows so the trailer isn't lit up like Christmas in the middle of the night? Especially since he parks his car right there? Anyone following him could "discover" and mess with the trailer...or haul it away.
As for Juliette, I never saw that coming! Some o
fortyseven Rank: Regular Character
May 19th, 2012 7:11 PM
Good not great. Rushed and didn't explain any mysyteries ( not counting Nick's mom being alive or Nick's possible "abilities" which we've seen some of and suspected there was more. I was thinking that Juliette was turned into a wesen. I know the mythology is all worked out but something substantial about Renard would have been great.
I never had the impression that there was only one Grimm in the entire world at one time. I thought Aunt Marie said that Grimm abilities emerged at a certain age, and not in every Grimm. It's been inferred that the Grimms in Europe work for the "royal houses."
Yep itsbeen stated countless times that there are multiple grimm bloodlines all around the world going back to few thousand years back. Nick just happens to be a part of this bloodline.
Also it might be two per bloodline since, after all, you had TWO grimm brothers at once.
KansasGuest Rank: Recurring Character
May 19th, 2012 4:45 PM
Maid Marian is back and kicking butt! I'm so glad to see her, and also a little depressed because if Mary Elizabeth is now old enough to have a son as old as Nicky (25+), that makes me old. :-(
@Simone below - I never had the impression that there was only one Grimm in the entire world at one time. I thought Aunt Marie said that Grimm abilities emerged at a certain age, and not in every Grimm. It's been inferred that the Grimms in Europe work for the "royal houses."
Nick, just tell poor Hank that he's not crazy. It's the unknown that is making him freak out because he thinks he's all alone. I hope Nick & Mama Grimm, with Monroe & Rosalie, can help him understand.
Simone
May 19th, 2012 4:02 PM
Another issue that I had with the episode is that I wished that Nick had told Hank the truth. It is clear that he would be far more receptive to the truth after what he had seen, if only to know that he is not losing his mind. I really hope that the plan is for Hank to find out the truth early next season.
Also, next season better include Nick figuring out that Renard's game. There is nothing wrong with having the protagonist engage directly with his main nemesis.
Kate
May 19th, 2012 3:25 PM
While I guessed who she was from early on I liked that she is nicks mom. I really think Renard is keen on establishing his own kingdom in Portland and sees nick as his own way to deal with the Wesson pop without destroying his rep but I am also thinking the writers aren't sure about what he is because there have been at leAst two stressful scenes and he hasn't turned. I was so feeling Juliet and her distress over nick, heck I was a little concerned and I knew he was making it up. I wondered with the quote whether Juliet would wake up...now I wonder if Adeline has somehow turned her into something. I hope nick mentioned what he wants to do to rosalee she might be able to talk to Juliet better about this stuff .
steve
May 19th, 2012 3:23 PM
Just want to point out that when you poo-poo'ed the last episode, I commented this:
"The last episode did nothing for the character development or mythology or impending showdown between Nick and whoever. The same can't be said about this episode. This episode did a lot in that regard. I agree with the other commenters about how Nick's world is closing down around him. It will be interesting to see where they go with Hank's character. I don't know that it's as simple as revealing the truth to him. I think Hank's moving along the trajectory of becoming an antagonist with a vendetta against Wesen without the benefit of knowing good from bad."
Glad to see you've come around...
ghalbig
May 19th, 2012 1:20 PM
It was interesting that the cliffhangers for Hawaii 5O and Grimm were surprisingly similar. Both McGarrett and Nick ended the season with the single word "Mom" as they confronted their supposedly deceased mothers. I like both shows, but I think Grimm's inclusion of a parent makes more sense. Mary Elizabeth Mastroantonio is perfect for the role!
I have never liked the dynamic between Nick and Hank, and I hope the writers will remedy this next season. The relationship between Monroe and Nick is much more satisfying. I also hope we receive more hints about Renard. We know he is using Nick but not sure why. What is his endgame?
Douglas Wolfe Rank: Staff Member
May 19th, 2012 7:52 AM
This is the Grimm I've been waiting to see. Akira was shown as being a deadly assassin all the way through: ominous and unstoppable. But then Nick's failed attempt to hit him with the crossbow dart, allowed him (Nick) to finally burst forth with his amazing physical abilities. Turns out Nick is even more unstoppable - just like (as it turns out) his amazingly agile mother.
Yes, I think it was too cheap of the writers to have Juliette pass out just as Monroe was going to give her the big reveal. And it's frustrating to see Renard continue on without any kind of back story or agenda to keep us hooked. That said - I enjoyed this show.
Simone
May 19th, 2012 7:36 AM
cont'd
On a negative note, like farsia correctly pointed out, none of the mysteries were resolved from this season. I am becoming more and more convinced that the writers don't know what Renard's back story or his agenda. This is not good and is what causes viewers to leave.
Simone
May 19th, 2012 7:36 AM
I found the episode slow at first, but it got thrilling fast and cliffhanger was excellent. A very good set up for next season.
I really enjoyed the scenes where Nick told Juliette the truth and she obviously thought that he was crazy. I am looking forward to seeing what Analind did to her.
I absolutely loved the fight scene. Nick was kicking butt Grimm style. I had no clue that the woman in black was Nick's mother until they acknowledged each other, but was sure that she was a Grimm. I can't wait to see how the writers explain how there can be more than one Grimm in a family with powers. They always strongly implied that Nick came into his powers because Marie was dying. I really felt for Hank who is becoming more and more unbalances. Nick has got to tell him the truth.
On a negative note, like farsia correctly pointed out, none of the mysteries were resolved from this season. I am becoming more and more convinced that the writers don't know what Renard's back story
Rank: Guest Star
May 22nd, 2012 7:52 PM
I must have missed the covenant that said being a Grimm gets passed down like a superpower. In the first two episodes it was clear that there a few Grimms in the world as well as a few Reapers. So where did the mythos that "Grimmdom" came down on the death of a familty member? Maybe it a talent that takes time to debelope. Cleary from the finale Nick's mother didn't have to be dead for him to inherit his Grimmness.
May 22nd, 2012 2:40 AM
I see a lot of comments wanting to be rid of Hank and Juliette. I think they are necessary to the story. Nick has to have some balance in his life. Nick is still a police officer and a Grimm. Hank is his partner. I like the story arc for Hank, though I don't think the show is showing the depth of a police officer partnership. Juliette has her special veterinary skills that will come in as useful if she makes it through the cat scratch fever. I see Juliette partnering with Rosalie. We've seen Hank slowly slide into insanity from the cookies, then coins episodes through the last. Remember, Hank is very honorable, he wouldn't cross the line a date Adalind. This may be a lesson for Nick, that his life is very dangerous to those around him and it is cruel to expose someone to that life daily and not take them into your confidence. Hank has been left open to cling onto anyone that offers him an explanation and restores his sanity. If Nick doesn't reveal all to Hank, someone else will and Nic
Rank: Guest Star
May 21st, 2012 5:06 PM
I guess no one actually read the intro to the episode. About the "Snow White" reference about sleeping. I think the cat was the poisoned apple.
Overall I loved the episode especially after seeing it again. Certainly opens up all kinds of stuff for next season.
Rank: Recurring Character
May 21st, 2012 4:45 AM
Ummm, people just thought of sth, if mommy dearest is alive then how did the Grimm gift pass to Aunt Mary??
May 20th, 2012 8:12 PM
And yes, i did crack up at the shot of Hank loaded for bear in his home.
funny
May 20th, 2012 8:10 PM
And not to mention Renard is the most interesting character... and he's hot.
May 20th, 2012 8:07 PM
wow Farsia2010 encapsulated all my thoughts about Hank and Juliette... please kill them both. Can't tell if it's just crappy character writing or the actors are just yuck. blah!
May 20th, 2012 8:38 AM
I enjoyed the finale. The reveal to Juliette scene, disappointing.
Hopes for the future...Less Hank, or at least, an interesting Hank. More Adalind please.She is deliciously wicked. Juliette in a coma for the entirety of season 2. And for goodness sake, do something with Renard--great character!
Monroe and Rosalee, awesome.
Rank: Recurring Character
May 20th, 2012 2:48 AM
i wanted to say sth last time but forgot, another reason the finale didn't cut it for me is because 2 of the cliffhangers were about characters that i either don't care about or want to die. Juliette and Hank. i just don't care about them so i am not worried about their wellbeing. they can live they can die, whatever, just as long as they leave the show. and next season maybe Nick will get a good looking girl for a change not sb who looks older than him. he looks like he is a prince but she looks like Cinderella's ugly stepsister and Hank should die already! the actor has such a heavy presence that it sucks all energy out of the shot and makes it hard to smile or even breath.
Rank: Regular Character
May 19th, 2012 11:38 PM
Hank: Okay - am I the only one that burst out laughing at the scene with Hank and his weapons of Wesen destruction? I'm sorry, but the only times I can tolerate him are when he's at the precinct. Other than that...well, I can hope for better in the next season.
Renard: I'm a little disappointed that we didn't get to see more of his agenda. At this point I don't think there's any possibility that he's a Wesen, but he's some kind of human power-wielder.
Great review, Mr. McHatton. Good call on Nick's power-ups being related to the visual stimulus of the Wesen's face, I'm going to watch the reruns for clues LOL. I also agree with the timing - there was a lot, though I loved it. It might have been better as a 90 min finale.
Rank: Regular Character
May 19th, 2012 11:32 PM
Okay - I loved this finale. It was exciting, maddening, bad-ass, cliff-hanging; it was everything I would want from a season finale. Good job, Grimm.
Starting with Nick: I loved the scene where he was telling Juliette the truth. You can really see how he's embraced it all by how enthusiastic he was getting. Also, his "power-up" in the final scene when he wiped the floor with Akira - what an awesome scene. I kind of figured that the woman in black was his mother, but I'm glad we had the reveal anyway - I'm looking forward to those explanations.
Juliette/Monroe: Of course Juliette thinks the man is nuts! That was acted really, really well by Bitsie Tulloch. Again, looking forward to seeing how she wakes up, and what happens with that cat. As always, Monroe is one of the strongest links in the show.
Rank: Guest Star
May 19th, 2012 9:35 PM
OK.
2 things:
Why didn't Renard turn? Or why didn't Akira recognize him as royalty like all the others that have come to Portland?
And, curious to see Momma's reaction to Nick's take on Grimm/Wessen relations and his friend Monroe(especially with all he knows).
Great finale and can't wait to see where things go from here!
May 19th, 2012 7:44 PM
@KansasGuest
You misread what I wrote. I never said that there was one Grimm "in the entire world."
This is what I said:
I can't wait to see how the writers explain how there can be more than one Grimm in a family with powers. They always strongly implied that Nick came into his powers because Marie was dying.
May 19th, 2012 7:38 PM
As for Juliette, I never saw it coming! Some of us have speculated that she might have undiscovered Grimm or Wesen abilities, but the idea of her being transformed is intriguing. Will her transformation be permanent, if this is what happened? If a regular human can be made Wesen, does that mean they'll try it with others? Have Adalind's powers been restored, or did someone else put a hex on her cat's claws?
And speaking of the cat, I remember a past episode during which Hank and Adalind double-dated with Juliette and Nick. Adalind told Juliette the breed of cat she had, and Juliette exclaimed that it's a rare, ancient breed. Nick's reaction implied that it's a typical witches' cat or maybe even a type of Wesen itself. Maybe there are shape-shifter Wesen or Wesen that stay in animal form most of the time? It really opens up all sorts of possibilities and makes me want to see what happens in Season Two.
May 19th, 2012 7:28 PM
It's funny: I wasn't that thrilled with the Aunt Marie character (although obviously she was crucial to Nick's and the audience's understanding of what a Grimm is), yet it seems like a good time for another Grimm to come into the series to further explain/train Nick. Monroe is great, but Nick depends on him so much. Bringing in another Grimm now makes sense--and for her to Nick's mother? Even better.
I agree with the person who said it was dangerous for Nick to bring Juliette to the trailer. She might mention it while in the hospital or discuss her concerns about Nick to a "friend" who happens to be Wesen. And does anyone else feel like Nick is vulnerable every time he's in the trailer? Could he at least put shades up on the windows so the trailer isn't lit up like Christmas in the middle of the night? Especially since he parks his car right there? Anyone following him could "discover" and mess with the trailer...or haul it away.
As for Juliette, I never saw that coming! Some o
Rank: Regular Character
May 19th, 2012 7:11 PM
Good not great. Rushed and didn't explain any mysyteries ( not counting Nick's mom being alive or Nick's possible "abilities" which we've seen some of and suspected there was more. I was thinking that Juliette was turned into a wesen. I know the mythology is all worked out but something substantial about Renard would have been great.
May 19th, 2012 5:16 PM
I never had the impression that there was only one Grimm in the entire world at one time. I thought Aunt Marie said that Grimm abilities emerged at a certain age, and not in every Grimm. It's been inferred that the Grimms in Europe work for the "royal houses."
Yep itsbeen stated countless times that there are multiple grimm bloodlines all around the world going back to few thousand years back. Nick just happens to be a part of this bloodline.
Also it might be two per bloodline since, after all, you had TWO grimm brothers at once.
Rank: Recurring Character
May 19th, 2012 4:45 PM
Maid Marian is back and kicking butt! I'm so glad to see her, and also a little depressed because if Mary Elizabeth is now old enough to have a son as old as Nicky (25+), that makes me old. :-(
@Simone below - I never had the impression that there was only one Grimm in the entire world at one time. I thought Aunt Marie said that Grimm abilities emerged at a certain age, and not in every Grimm. It's been inferred that the Grimms in Europe work for the "royal houses."
Nick, just tell poor Hank that he's not crazy. It's the unknown that is making him freak out because he thinks he's all alone. I hope Nick & Mama Grimm, with Monroe & Rosalie, can help him understand.
May 19th, 2012 4:02 PM
Another issue that I had with the episode is that I wished that Nick had told Hank the truth. It is clear that he would be far more receptive to the truth after what he had seen, if only to know that he is not losing his mind. I really hope that the plan is for Hank to find out the truth early next season.
Also, next season better include Nick figuring out that Renard's game. There is nothing wrong with having the protagonist engage directly with his main nemesis.
May 19th, 2012 3:25 PM
While I guessed who she was from early on I liked that she is nicks mom. I really think Renard is keen on establishing his own kingdom in Portland and sees nick as his own way to deal with the Wesson pop without destroying his rep but I am also thinking the writers aren't sure about what he is because there have been at leAst two stressful scenes and he hasn't turned. I was so feeling Juliet and her distress over nick, heck I was a little concerned and I knew he was making it up. I wondered with the quote whether Juliet would wake up...now I wonder if Adeline has somehow turned her into something. I hope nick mentioned what he wants to do to rosalee she might be able to talk to Juliet better about this stuff .
May 19th, 2012 3:23 PM
Just want to point out that when you poo-poo'ed the last episode, I commented this:
"The last episode did nothing for the character development or mythology or impending showdown between Nick and whoever. The same can't be said about this episode. This episode did a lot in that regard. I agree with the other commenters about how Nick's world is closing down around him. It will be interesting to see where they go with Hank's character. I don't know that it's as simple as revealing the truth to him. I think Hank's moving along the trajectory of becoming an antagonist with a vendetta against Wesen without the benefit of knowing good from bad."
Glad to see you've come around...
May 19th, 2012 1:20 PM
It was interesting that the cliffhangers for Hawaii 5O and Grimm were surprisingly similar. Both McGarrett and Nick ended the season with the single word "Mom" as they confronted their supposedly deceased mothers. I like both shows, but I think Grimm's inclusion of a parent makes more sense. Mary Elizabeth Mastroantonio is perfect for the role!
I have never liked the dynamic between Nick and Hank, and I hope the writers will remedy this next season. The relationship between Monroe and Nick is much more satisfying. I also hope we receive more hints about Renard. We know he is using Nick but not sure why. What is his endgame?
Rank: Staff Member
May 19th, 2012 7:52 AM
This is the Grimm I've been waiting to see. Akira was shown as being a deadly assassin all the way through: ominous and unstoppable. But then Nick's failed attempt to hit him with the crossbow dart, allowed him (Nick) to finally burst forth with his amazing physical abilities. Turns out Nick is even more unstoppable - just like (as it turns out) his amazingly agile mother.
Yes, I think it was too cheap of the writers to have Juliette pass out just as Monroe was going to give her the big reveal. And it's frustrating to see Renard continue on without any kind of back story or agenda to keep us hooked. That said - I enjoyed this show.
May 19th, 2012 7:36 AM
cont'd
On a negative note, like farsia correctly pointed out, none of the mysteries were resolved from this season. I am becoming more and more convinced that the writers don't know what Renard's back story or his agenda. This is not good and is what causes viewers to leave.
May 19th, 2012 7:36 AM
I found the episode slow at first, but it got thrilling fast and cliffhanger was excellent. A very good set up for next season.
I really enjoyed the scenes where Nick told Juliette the truth and she obviously thought that he was crazy. I am looking forward to seeing what Analind did to her.
I absolutely loved the fight scene. Nick was kicking butt Grimm style. I had no clue that the woman in black was Nick's mother until they acknowledged each other, but was sure that she was a Grimm. I can't wait to see how the writers explain how there can be more than one Grimm in a family with powers. They always strongly implied that Nick came into his powers because Marie was dying. I really felt for Hank who is becoming more and more unbalances. Nick has got to tell him the truth.
On a negative note, like farsia correctly pointed out, none of the mysteries were resolved from this season. I am becoming more and more convinced that the writers don't know what Renard's back story