Mad Men Review: Very Dirty Business Comments (Page 3)
49 Comments
Stingo
May 28th, 2012 1:19 PM
Best episode of the series, hands down.
Ana
May 28th, 2012 1:11 PM
This was the best mad men episode I have seen within the entire series. I'm still thinking about!
I'm not sure if Joan prostituting herself was totally within the character that the writers have created. Joan always seemed to walk with so much pride for who she is and what she's accomplished within a sexist environment. Im racking my brain wondering if she would realistically be willing to trade the respect and admiration of the partners of SCDP for anything. Anything--especially money-- which Roger, her baby's father has plenty of-- and is offering up to her on a silver platter. How could Joan deny Rogers offer for child support out of pride but than allow this? Plus, it's office humiliation and a public moral demotion. I'm not saying it it isn't plausible, because people are flawed, but really?!
So proud of Peggy! Thankful for a much needed good guy- Ken Cosgrove to balance out the darkness. Great episode.
Betty Draper Rank: Recurring Character
May 28th, 2012 11:19 AM
Why would Joan turn down Roger's child support money and whore herself out instead? What are they trying to tell us about Joan?
EXACTLY Vicky!!!
Why would she do that???
From the minute Joan told Pete ''they couldn't afford her'' she made her choice. The vote happened later on. She was clearly thinking about it and not rejecting it from the start like she should have. You can't blame anyone for that, not even Roger who really offered to take care of the baby in the last episode. She is not the victim, she wasn't doing it for the firm, she was doing it for money.
I'm really disappointed in her. What a waste of great potential.
Although I have to say that in earlier seasons I'm not sure if Don would reject sleeping with a female client to get a big account. Not sure, but think about it. Pete would do it for sure, even Roger would. So, I think they voted based on what they would do in that kind of situation.
I worked at a company where a salesperson and designer went on a meeting together. After the meeting, the client approached the salesperson about arranging a date with the client, who was smitten with the designer. The client was in his 40's or 50's, the designer was 22. The salesperson actually tried to make the case that this designer should go out w/ him for the sake of the account. And this was in 1988. This shit really happens.
Vicki
May 28th, 2012 8:42 AM
Why would Joan turn down Roger's child support money and whore herself out instead? What are they trying to tell us about Joan? Or did she do it out of spite after learning that Roger pimped her out? And the Jaguar ad campaign as a metaphor for Don's relationship with Megan was spot on. This episode was coherent, and completely fell into place. All the loose ends were tied up.
Mia
May 28th, 2012 8:22 AM
The fact I didn't miss Betty and wasn't annoyed by Megan's whining is a testament to how absolutely amazing was this episode. So many emotions, it was like all of the five stages of grief in one episode.
I was misty-eyed when I realized Don was too late, the moment she said she was about to take a shower, I knew the deed was done. When Joan touched Don's face, you could see the regret in her eyes. If only Don consoled her as soon as he found out slimy Pete asked her.
Lane is far worse than Pete, and deserves a flogging, not just a punch. At least Pete is in-your-face dirty, like the city, while Lane is a wolf in sheep's clothing wicked, like the suburbs. I loathe Lane more than Pete, and now hope he's the one to die this season.
StBob
May 28th, 2012 8:19 AM
She should have said she would do it provided Pete slept with Roger.
Bite me
May 28th, 2012 7:22 AM
bye Peggy great acting for the episode,I was shocked by Joan how could you?
Don should have hit Pete for suggesting the liason.
Trae
May 28th, 2012 4:48 AM
We just witnessed the Emmy winning episode. Phenomenal writing, acting, story and all around presentation.
Finally a real Mad Men episode this season. Peggy made the right choice. There was nothing left for her to achieve in SCDP. Her career was stuck and she made the right choice.
i cannot believe they actually voted on whether joan should sleep with that guy. Even for the 60s that seems disgusting. If i was joan I would have pulled a lane and punched pete right in the mouth. It's like this season is look how terriblly we treat women
THIS.
Seriously, what the hell?! How on earth can they even think to have the right to vote on something like this? Why don't they slept with him if they find it such a good idea that they are just pimping out one of their employees? BTW speaking in terms of business, is any of their competitors really taking SDCP serious when they see how they actually get their accounts? I wouldn't. That doesn't really say anything good about the quality of their advertisements if they have to go to extremes to "impress" the possible client.
Also I don't know why Joan went for it. Yes, we all know that she is in a very difficult situation but I still can't fathom that she actually would do this. I expected her to punch all of them
marly
May 28th, 2012 4:20 AM
Go Don for sticking up for Joan.And Roger, I expected more.
Marc
May 28th, 2012 3:15 AM
Always look forward to your reviews, they are harsh at times but you were spot on with this review. Personally, this was the best episode Ive seen through the 5 seasons. The Kinks song to end was perfect as Peggy is moving up with her life and she deserves it after being disrespected time after time. Joan on the other hand is moving down, and that was disturbing that the men sold her like a farm animal so they could win this corporation. Pete Campbell was at his worst and one of the most fascinating characters ever made. I loved the scene with Don pitching for Jaguar while Joan goes to do her thing. And the Don kissing Peggys hand was bittersweet. Im gonna miss this show when it ends.
kay
May 28th, 2012 3:14 AM
i cannot believe they actually voted on whether joan should sleep with that guy. Even for the 60s that seems disgusting. If i was joan I would have pulled a lane and punched pete right in the mouth. It's like this season is look how terriblly we treat women
Pete: Don't act like you had a plan. You're Tarzan, swinging from vine to vine.
May 28th, 2012 1:19 PM
Best episode of the series, hands down.
May 28th, 2012 1:11 PM
This was the best mad men episode I have seen within the entire series. I'm still thinking about!
I'm not sure if Joan prostituting herself was totally within the character that the writers have created. Joan always seemed to walk with so much pride for who she is and what she's accomplished within a sexist environment. Im racking my brain wondering if she would realistically be willing to trade the respect and admiration of the partners of SCDP for anything. Anything--especially money-- which Roger, her baby's father has plenty of-- and is offering up to her on a silver platter. How could Joan deny Rogers offer for child support out of pride but than allow this? Plus, it's office humiliation and a public moral demotion. I'm not saying it it isn't plausible, because people are flawed, but really?!
So proud of Peggy! Thankful for a much needed good guy- Ken Cosgrove to balance out the darkness. Great episode.
Rank: Recurring Character
May 28th, 2012 11:19 AM
Why would Joan turn down Roger's child support money and whore herself out instead? What are they trying to tell us about Joan?
EXACTLY Vicky!!!
Why would she do that???
From the minute Joan told Pete ''they couldn't afford her'' she made her choice. The vote happened later on. She was clearly thinking about it and not rejecting it from the start like she should have. You can't blame anyone for that, not even Roger who really offered to take care of the baby in the last episode. She is not the victim, she wasn't doing it for the firm, she was doing it for money.
I'm really disappointed in her. What a waste of great potential.
Although I have to say that in earlier seasons I'm not sure if Don would reject sleeping with a female client to get a big account. Not sure, but think about it. Pete would do it for sure, even Roger would. So, I think they voted based on what they would do in that kind of situation.
Rank: New User
May 28th, 2012 8:49 AM
I worked at a company where a salesperson and designer went on a meeting together. After the meeting, the client approached the salesperson about arranging a date with the client, who was smitten with the designer. The client was in his 40's or 50's, the designer was 22. The salesperson actually tried to make the case that this designer should go out w/ him for the sake of the account. And this was in 1988. This shit really happens.
May 28th, 2012 8:42 AM
Why would Joan turn down Roger's child support money and whore herself out instead? What are they trying to tell us about Joan? Or did she do it out of spite after learning that Roger pimped her out? And the Jaguar ad campaign as a metaphor for Don's relationship with Megan was spot on. This episode was coherent, and completely fell into place. All the loose ends were tied up.
May 28th, 2012 8:22 AM
The fact I didn't miss Betty and wasn't annoyed by Megan's whining is a testament to how absolutely amazing was this episode. So many emotions, it was like all of the five stages of grief in one episode.
I was misty-eyed when I realized Don was too late, the moment she said she was about to take a shower, I knew the deed was done. When Joan touched Don's face, you could see the regret in her eyes. If only Don consoled her as soon as he found out slimy Pete asked her.
Lane is far worse than Pete, and deserves a flogging, not just a punch. At least Pete is in-your-face dirty, like the city, while Lane is a wolf in sheep's clothing wicked, like the suburbs. I loathe Lane more than Pete, and now hope he's the one to die this season.
May 28th, 2012 8:19 AM
She should have said she would do it provided Pete slept with Roger.
May 28th, 2012 7:22 AM
bye Peggy great acting for the episode,I was shocked by Joan how could you?
Don should have hit Pete for suggesting the liason.
May 28th, 2012 4:48 AM
We just witnessed the Emmy winning episode. Phenomenal writing, acting, story and all around presentation.
Rank: Guest Star
May 28th, 2012 4:23 AM
Finally a real Mad Men episode this season. Peggy made the right choice. There was nothing left for her to achieve in SCDP. Her career was stuck and she made the right choice.
Rank: Leading Character
May 28th, 2012 4:22 AM
i cannot believe they actually voted on whether joan should sleep with that guy. Even for the 60s that seems disgusting. If i was joan I would have pulled a lane and punched pete right in the mouth. It's like this season is look how terriblly we treat women
THIS.
Seriously, what the hell?! How on earth can they even think to have the right to vote on something like this? Why don't they slept with him if they find it such a good idea that they are just pimping out one of their employees? BTW speaking in terms of business, is any of their competitors really taking SDCP serious when they see how they actually get their accounts? I wouldn't. That doesn't really say anything good about the quality of their advertisements if they have to go to extremes to "impress" the possible client.
Also I don't know why Joan went for it. Yes, we all know that she is in a very difficult situation but I still can't fathom that she actually would do this. I expected her to punch all of them
May 28th, 2012 4:20 AM
Go Don for sticking up for Joan.And Roger, I expected more.
May 28th, 2012 3:15 AM
Always look forward to your reviews, they are harsh at times but you were spot on with this review. Personally, this was the best episode Ive seen through the 5 seasons. The Kinks song to end was perfect as Peggy is moving up with her life and she deserves it after being disrespected time after time. Joan on the other hand is moving down, and that was disturbing that the men sold her like a farm animal so they could win this corporation. Pete Campbell was at his worst and one of the most fascinating characters ever made. I loved the scene with Don pitching for Jaguar while Joan goes to do her thing. And the Don kissing Peggys hand was bittersweet. Im gonna miss this show when it ends.
May 28th, 2012 3:14 AM
i cannot believe they actually voted on whether joan should sleep with that guy. Even for the 60s that seems disgusting. If i was joan I would have pulled a lane and punched pete right in the mouth. It's like this season is look how terriblly we treat women