Sherlock Review: Know When You're Beaten Comments (Page 2)
16 Comments
M
May 7th, 2012 12:26 AM
(POSSIBLE) SPOILER
Moriarty didn't want to kill Sherlock, Irene's phone call or not. Meeting him was just part of the game. He has another plan for Sherlock and him and their issues.
The bigger question is whether Sherlock would shoot that bomb or not. Was he determined enough to die with John only to get rid of Moriarty?
Anne
May 7th, 2012 12:24 AM
y helped Adler plan out her blackmailing scheme against the British government.
So you see, the airliner wasn't to prove the value of her information to Mycroft, it was to pay Moriarty for his services. The information she has on her phone: codes like this one, incriminating photos, knowledge that someone knows someone/thing they're not supposed to, and other secrets like weapon designs, nuclear launch codes, and etc - they're useless to her because she either can't prove the value of her information (like in this case, where she needed Sherlock AND Moriarty's help to prove the info's true and get the terrorists to pay for the info), or she can't get any real use out of them (like with the royal photos) because they would only give her a few million - nothing to a woman like her.
Anne
May 7th, 2012 12:14 AM
From what I understood, Irene Adler had a client who worked for Mycroft Holmes. When the client met with her, he somehow let her know that the Mycroft's people infiltrated the terrorists' organizations, so much so that Mycroft could now know with great accuracy the identity of the terrorists' next target. This identity is then encoded (the one that Sherlock deciphered), and the government works toward foiling the damage that would have been done by the attack while keeping the fact that they now have an inside ear on the terrorists' operations under wraps.
Adler's "coin" with Moriarty, then, is her knowledge that the terrorists were infiltrated. I imagine her conversation would have been something like "Mycroft Holmes has infiltrated x, and if you leave Sherlock alive I can prove it to you. I can get Sherlock to tell you the terrorists' next target."
Moriarty can then go to the terrorists and demand payment for proof that they were infiltrated. And in return for her help, Moriart
Shmee
May 6th, 2012 11:45 PM
You think this one was amazing , wait until you get to the 3rd story - The Reichenbach Fall - it will blow your frelling minds!
"As for "And now my brain hurts" - that's a very common side affect of watching anything written by Steven Moffat." - HAH YES!
First Aid Kit Rank: Regular Character
May 6th, 2012 11:16 PM
It was the 3rd or 4th time I've seen this and I sill found the dialogue and suspense brilliant as ever. I also think this episode set a stage for what will be explored throughout the continuation of the whole series (which sadly only has 3 episodes): whether Sherlock actually can connect to someone emotionally. In Scandal in Belgravia he appears to not understand emotional vulnerability to the point of cruelty (poor dear Molly Cooper), but he gets attached to a relative stranger who challenges his brain. At the same time he feels very protective of Mrs. Hudson and throws her attacher out of the window (awesome moment). The guy is an enigma, but is oh so much fun to watch.
As for "And now my brain hurts" - that's a very common side affect of watching anything written by Steven Moffat.
Hayd
May 6th, 2012 11:06 PM
In the UK, this was shown over the xmas period. That mug of cocoa and the roaring fire did set a perfect scene for its showing
May 7th, 2012 12:26 AM
(POSSIBLE) SPOILER
Moriarty didn't want to kill Sherlock, Irene's phone call or not. Meeting him was just part of the game. He has another plan for Sherlock and him and their issues.
The bigger question is whether Sherlock would shoot that bomb or not. Was he determined enough to die with John only to get rid of Moriarty?
May 7th, 2012 12:24 AM
y helped Adler plan out her blackmailing scheme against the British government.
So you see, the airliner wasn't to prove the value of her information to Mycroft, it was to pay Moriarty for his services. The information she has on her phone: codes like this one, incriminating photos, knowledge that someone knows someone/thing they're not supposed to, and other secrets like weapon designs, nuclear launch codes, and etc - they're useless to her because she either can't prove the value of her information (like in this case, where she needed Sherlock AND Moriarty's help to prove the info's true and get the terrorists to pay for the info), or she can't get any real use out of them (like with the royal photos) because they would only give her a few million - nothing to a woman like her.
May 7th, 2012 12:14 AM
From what I understood, Irene Adler had a client who worked for Mycroft Holmes. When the client met with her, he somehow let her know that the Mycroft's people infiltrated the terrorists' organizations, so much so that Mycroft could now know with great accuracy the identity of the terrorists' next target. This identity is then encoded (the one that Sherlock deciphered), and the government works toward foiling the damage that would have been done by the attack while keeping the fact that they now have an inside ear on the terrorists' operations under wraps.
Adler's "coin" with Moriarty, then, is her knowledge that the terrorists were infiltrated. I imagine her conversation would have been something like "Mycroft Holmes has infiltrated x, and if you leave Sherlock alive I can prove it to you. I can get Sherlock to tell you the terrorists' next target."
Moriarty can then go to the terrorists and demand payment for proof that they were infiltrated. And in return for her help, Moriart
May 6th, 2012 11:45 PM
You think this one was amazing , wait until you get to the 3rd story - The Reichenbach Fall - it will blow your frelling minds!
"As for "And now my brain hurts" - that's a very common side affect of watching anything written by Steven Moffat." - HAH YES!
Rank: Regular Character
May 6th, 2012 11:16 PM
It was the 3rd or 4th time I've seen this and I sill found the dialogue and suspense brilliant as ever. I also think this episode set a stage for what will be explored throughout the continuation of the whole series (which sadly only has 3 episodes): whether Sherlock actually can connect to someone emotionally. In Scandal in Belgravia he appears to not understand emotional vulnerability to the point of cruelty (poor dear Molly Cooper), but he gets attached to a relative stranger who challenges his brain. At the same time he feels very protective of Mrs. Hudson and throws her attacher out of the window (awesome moment). The guy is an enigma, but is oh so much fun to watch.
As for "And now my brain hurts" - that's a very common side affect of watching anything written by Steven Moffat.
May 6th, 2012 11:06 PM
In the UK, this was shown over the xmas period. That mug of cocoa and the roaring fire did set a perfect scene for its showing