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June 19th, 2012 5:02 AM
Her sl this season has been so contrived. I hope to see more focus and better storyline for her next season. Overall a great season but two major flaws: extreme nudity which serve no purpose or sl and most sls are not tied down well. For eg: why do Bran have to fleee Winterfell? Arent the 500 men sent by his brother to protext Winterfell?
June 19th, 2012 4:57 AM
It was a good episode but it felt more like a prologue than a finale. I just hated that the lannisters are back in power and the only lannister I like is made irrelevant. Tyrion had been the best thing about this season and I wanted someone to acknowlege what ge did for king's landing. It leaves a bad taste that good deeds are necer rewarded and the unworthy always win. Stannis is really an unnecessary character and left. no impact on me. Robb started out as a really strong character but ever since his love interest was introduced, his character lost direction. His sisters are captive in Kings landing which is being stormed by stannis and co. and his brothers are supposedly dead and Winterfell is at seige, Jaime has escaped and he spend the last two episodes on his marriage... that seriously weakened Robb for me. Dany remains onr of the best contenders for Iron throne...she is honorable and strong.She is gentle and yet so
June 13th, 2012 5:41 AM
Loved season 1! Really hooked me. However Season 2 left me feeling blah. Seems like a lot of build up for nothing. I mean I loved how Arya Stark was learning the sword but aside from her killing that fat boy by accident why did they have her train with it for half of season 1? I loved the dire wolves....but not much done with them this season (I feel) other then some cool dreams from the boy.
Robb Stark for as good as he has done in battle is a fool!! How will he get back home now that he will not be able to cross the bridge because he has broken his word? Being a prince he should have always know he couldn't ever marry for love!!! Come on! Not like he couldn't keep a lover as he is the King of the North. Oh no better to totally hose yourself and marry your love! Just give up the throne and the fight then or be a man! Just seems so out of character.
Winterfall falling to 1 boat of men really? You leave so few behind you can't even police your own lands? Hell bandits coul
June 8th, 2012 11:18 PM
(cont. because post was cut off in "submit")
The fact Martin was able to make his human characters passably human is no proof of his talents as a writer.
It's obvious to me that you are a vehement fan of Martin's work so there isn't a single thing that anyone could say that could make you open your mind to another persons point of view rather than seeing anything other than what you want to see.
As for feeling the need to insult the intelligence of anyone who dares commit the evil crime of not thinking Martin's writing is, in your words, "the literary highlight of the last decade", you have no right to do that. I know what my IQ is. Do you?
June 8th, 2012 11:17 PM
@Izzy:
Pardon me, but I don't recall anyone in this discussion saying Twilight was any sort of literary highlight. You're the only one who has made that statement. Closeted Twilight fan are we and have to get our true feelings out some way?
First, this "Rowland" you speak of. Perhaps you mean Rowling? Thought so.
You know, I think you are right. Anyone who would compare Martin's writing to anything by Tolkien, Rowling or any other author for that matter has to be bonkers. That's like comparing lightening (other high fantasy writers) to lightening bugs (Martin). One is brilliant and the other weak.
I'd hope that Martin's characters would show they have weaknesses and are inherently human. Characters that ARE human beings should display human characteristics. You wouldn't expect the Whitewalkers to act the same, feel the same and want the same things as the humans they oppose, now would you? The fact Martin was able to make his human characters passably human is no
June 8th, 2012 11:06 PM
@Izzy
I will not even attempt to debate one author's work against another, but if you think that the characters of Game of Thrones - especially the TV version - are anything but one dimensional then you need to adjust your set.
What is it with the fans of this program? It's OK to switch out of Martin Worship mode for a bit. You won't lose your membership cards or anything.
June 8th, 2012 5:45 AM
I have read through the comments and read the review and am disappointed in both! I have read the books and watched since ep1 s1 and have to say that while they are changing some storylines, they are still doing justice to the brilliance that is Martin's work. People who are trying to compare this to Tolkien, Rowland or Meyer are completely BONKERS...I have read LOTR, HP and TWI series and can say that while characters from those series are either completely evil or completely good and are totally one dimensional, Martin's characters have all displayed shades of grey! They are multi faceted showing that they all have there weaknesses and ARE inherently HUMAN. These books are pure genius in that while it is fantasy, the characters and their motivations are utterly realistic. Both the TV and book series are maybe way too sophisticated for those people who think that TWILIGHT was the literary highlight of the last decade! These are not the same as other series where there have been a majo
June 5th, 2012 8:55 PM
@Karl:
(cont. because the form cut off my post at 'submit')
But, then again, that's my opinion. If that displeases you, Joffrey, well, deal with it. If we all were forced to like the same things you'd be the #1 fan of that Harry Potter series you seem to dislike so much based on how vehemently you are defending this series.
June 5th, 2012 8:54 PM
@Karl:
I'm going to assume you are really Joffrey in disguise because it's apparent no one here other than you (and that even includes the reviewer!) is allowed to express an opinion.
YOU might find the books and series to be nothing short of brilliant but there are many who do not. They are perfectly allowed to say so any place they choose on the web as long as site guidelines are followed.
I've read the books and found them to be absolutely short of brilliant. No nothing about it. The books & series are seriously flawed IMO, in more ways than one. I've also read both the Harry Potter and Twilight (only one "L" in that word there, dear) series'. While Twilight is complete and utter garbage, Martin's writing, in my opinion, isn't anywhere near the caliber of Rowling's or other writers such as Tolkien, Piers Anthony, David Eddings, Fred Saberhagen and Anne McCaffrey.
But, then again, that's my opinion. If that displeases you, Joffrey, well, deal with it. If
June 5th, 2012 6:15 PM
@karl
Perhaps it is you that needs to "grow up"...
Since when is posting twice a crime? Should I take a hundred lines? 40 lashes? Maybe a rat in bucket strapped to my chest?
Get a grip and stop being such a fanboi unable to deal with criticism about a set of fantasy novels. If you enjoy them so much, head back to your basement, curl up in your homemade iron thrown and read them now.
As for the TV show, well, the fact that you found the finale "nothing short of brilliant" suggests that it likely your own intelligence that needs examining.
June 5th, 2012 3:30 PM
what the hell is wrong with people here? What is up with this reviewer? Last time I enter this page when googling a review.
I found the finale nothing short of brilliant. Any and all complaints are nothing short of buffoonery. Except for the often over-the-top nudity, it does get a bit dreary.
It was a strong season for a show that will only get stronger.
oh, and BigOldBallsOfDragonFire. reposting as if you are reviewing several times, makes you lame. Grow up. And if you don'y like the books maybe try Harry Potter or Twillight, I'm sure they are more within your intellectual capacity.
Rank: Guest Star
June 5th, 2012 7:44 AM
After reading a ton of comments from various sites, I wonder if GoT the show is going to suffer by being tied to the book structure.
Already people are saying "the white walkers have been too absent", "Danny should just get to Westeros already", etc...
It's only been 2 seasons!
Book readers have had to endure over a decade and some of the things people are already harping about (slowness) STILL hasn't been resolved (not saying which things).
If you consider that book 3 will be seasons 3 & 4, and a re-combined books 4/5 will be at LEAST seasons 5 & 6.
That's 4 years minimum from now to get to where the books are currently.
Are people going to stick with the show when people are already complaining things are too slow?
June 5th, 2012 5:27 AM
I also love seeing the devlopment of Theon Greyjoy. He's turned from somewhat of a nonechelant bravado into a scared snivveling child. During his speech I felt myself thinking "ah jeez... typical 'heroic speech'. I can't believe his men simply follow him all of a sudden" but then suddenly; "oh woah! did not see that comming! epic way to put him in his place!" I nearly feel sorry for him, as weak a character he has. He has no place playing with the big boys.
June 5th, 2012 5:27 AM
The denaeris line was kind of cool, though a bit difficult to follow. The wizard tower was appearantly filled with illusions to keep her there voluntairilly and when that didn't work the wizard chained her... But the iron throne room didn't look all that appealing as it was completely ruined.
I love how you see Tyrion losing everything he's worked for the moment daddy returned (even if I feel really sorry for him). From episode one his dad was supposed to be a stern man that neglected Tyrion on behalf of his dwarfish looks. It seems, now that Therion has served his purpose, good old dad is quick to set him aside again like the failure he is. Tyrion is gonna have some daddy issues. I wonder if he's going to realise his family sucks and joins Robbs army next season.
I also love seeing the devlopment of Theon Greyjoy. He's turned from somewhat of a nonechelant bravado into a scared snivveling child. During his speech I felt myself thinking "ah jeez... typical 'heroic speech'. I can
Rank: Guest Star
June 5th, 2012 12:16 AM
I was not impressed with finale. Too little details how Winterfell burned. I didnt' like the wedding.
I felt like this was an episode wasted setting up next year.
But the dragons were cool.
June 4th, 2012 10:35 PM
(This cutting off of posts is really annoying.)
I truly did feel sorry for Bran, Rickon, Hodor and Osha. The brothers lost someone they loved (Master Luwin) and they're heading off to the Wall to find someone who isn't even there anymore to help them IF they make it there.
All in all, after two seasons I feel extremely let down by this show. It isn't a very good series to start with and this finale just made it worse. I know the series is only as good as Martin's novels so I don't blame HBO or the production. I never have. The show always looks good. It's the content that is severely lacking. I keep watching in hopes that Martin will stop writing what he thinks fantasy readers want to see and start writing what the story needs but that doesn't happen. The same held true with the books. I completely agree with DragonFire to NOT read the books as they are one of VERY few instances where the books truly were worse than the movie/series. At least with the series you can see
June 4th, 2012 10:34 PM
Continued...
Good on you, Robb for disobeying your annoying mother and marrying for love instead of obligation. Only problem is now that there's all this sweet lovey dovey romance in the picture he appears to have fully been castrated as a character. His eye isn't totally on the prize anymore. Same with Jon Snow. Next season, once he reaches his final destination, I'm sure we'll see him and the red haired girl set up housekeeping together. Yawn.
Daenerys finally has her dragon "babies" back and she's stopped whining for a few minutes. She's spent so much time whining this season that it felt completely out of character for her to finally step up. I expect the whining to resume next season as she and her people continue on their long journey. Things won't go to plan, she won't get what she wants and needs, obstacles will fall in her path and how will be the best way to deal with it? Whine!
I truly did feel sorry for Bran, Rickon, Hodor and Osha. The brothers lost some
June 4th, 2012 10:34 PM
What can be said about this finale? There was a lot going on, that's for sure. But was what happened in this finale worth the road to get here or not?
It took two years to get the Whitewalkers into the mix. Is that some slow plot development or is that some slow plot development? When we were introduced to them in the pilot I liked the idea of them. However, Martin failed to do anything with them for so long that they were all but forgotten with the exception of a mention here and there. When they were mentioned, one is given the impression they are the worst things that can cross ones path. While what came on screen at the end was by no means handsome, it wasn't anything we haven't seen before. For a second, I had to check the channel and make sure I wasn't on AMC because I thought I was watching a snowy The Walking Dead. Someone in the makeup department has spent WAY too much time watching that show and is apparently enamoured by the zombies as the Whitewalkers are virtua
June 4th, 2012 9:35 PM
I have read the books and honestly I don't know what they are doing to the story. They have missed valuable pieces of story that make the events that did happen make sense. Like Jon killing Quron half hand. He told Jon to kill him so mance raydar would believe him a traitor and he could infiltrate the wildlings. That was not made clear. Dany ( her dragons really) burned down the house of the undying. Theon is not knocked out by his own men. So many inconsistencies, it is leaving me confused watching the show and having read the books. I am sometimes wondering if I am watching a completely different story. Hope season three is better.
June 4th, 2012 5:27 PM
NO! Don't read the books. They are horrendous! If there's anything worse that the TV version of the show, it's the books it's based on.
June 4th, 2012 5:25 PM
But the invincible creatures looked a bit too alive If you ask me.. The darkness element to them was not there.. I expected darker, more frightening, faster and definitely much more white walkers.. Kind of like they were introduced in the first place... Only larger in numbers.. Again maybe it's just me and maybe this scene was true to the book more than what I would've had in mind.
June 4th, 2012 5:21 PM
I have never read "A song of ice and fire".. And in fact never knew of it before I started watching Game of Thrones.. But again.. I'm not much of a reader. I'm not a series fan either.. Rather more into movies.. However Game of Thrones was the exception.. From the opening scene of season 1 I was hooked.. It is the greatest series ever made in my opinion. And as a viewer I can easily say season 1 overall takes the cake.. It was epic and surprising from start to finish. I couldn't wait for season 2 and maybe another glimps or hint of the white walkers' presence... Season 2 was still very good.. Black water especially. However I must say I'm a little disappointed with the season finale.. Particularly the ending.. The sound of the horn going off 3 times sent chills up my spine.. I was craving that horrific feeling that hooked me to the story in the first place.. But disappointedly I wasn't.. I think the plot for the white walkers appearance could've been staged much better... But the invi
June 4th, 2012 5:04 PM
For some reason I can't help but read your reviews, especially seeing as I constantly want to yell at you and tell you WHY the show plays out the way it does, so I will just say this... READ THE GOSH DARN BOOKS!!! Trust me, you will still be able to review every episode as thoroughly as you do now even though you already know the outcome from the books perspective.
Rank: Guest Star
June 4th, 2012 4:34 PM
Sansa dear, you gotta go, wanna go but can't go... Tough ! Liked the way she laughed, thinking she was free. How wrong she was... Little Finger, a man she shouldn't trust AT ALL . The way she got "repudiated" in front of everyone...damn ! Cersei... hate that woman !
Tyron, wow, so many emotions ! Hope he'll get better, but yup, the man loves the game ! That's gonna cost him though...
Robb and his word...doesn't mean crap. And That Jamie Lanister, whether use him properly or just kill the man, but please DO SOMETHING !
Master Luwin...that was sad... And Winterfell FELL (lame but the truth). The Greyjoy bro, LOL, "his" people had enough of him ! Good his gone, but well, felt strange...
All in all, the episode wasn't really Finale worthy, but nonetheless, good and enjoyable episode ! Cannot wait for next year's season 3 !!!!!
Rank: Guest Star
June 4th, 2012 4:28 PM
Yoooooooooooo, that was AN AWFUL LOT of Night-Walkers !!!! Damn ! Sam, hun, hope you'll still be alive... I like u waaaayy too much !!!
Seriously, I can't believe Joffrey is not dead yet ! Isn't there anybody out there who wants to kill him and actually act on it ?!
Dany Dany Dany...this season was not your friend...But brownie point for bringing back Khal Drogo, as sad as it was. The Dragons and her, wow, Awesome stuff, wanna see more of that magic ! Woulda killed the maid but hey, Dany sure didn't need to have her blood on her hands ! B**ch !
Jacquen H'gar, gosh I love the guy, glad they put the changing-my-face part ! Hope we'll see him(1st face) soon !
I too, thought Stannis to be captured...but well, I do not like his character AT ALL, and the red whatever she is, grr, can't stand her ! I feel like they are useless...
Jon killing that man was weirdly handled. I thought it was part of a plan too, but the way it was played didn't feel the same...
Sansa dear, you gotta go, w