The Killing Season Finale Review: Who Killed Rosie? Comments (Page 2)
35 Comments
bev cochran
June 19th, 2012 12:42 PM
My question is: How did Jaime get Rosie out of the casino? We all saw him leaving alone in the elevator...
KT
June 19th, 2012 11:07 AM
Did it work as a drama? I'd give it a 3 out of 5. As a police show? 2 out of 5. Story, plot, and making sense? 2 out of 5.
Jamie gunned down? Did it for Richmond? don't buy it. The aunt? did it so her lover wouldn't go back to his wife? Don't buy it. That he would be screaming all that at Jamie over and over while the aunt was 20 feet away? Don't buy it. These are not shortfalls of the viewer, they are shortfalls of the writers who didn't set any of this up - really anyone could have killed her - and changed characters however they wanted in order to fill the many, glaring plot holes. Mostly great acting, but the writing was middle of the road.
irene
June 18th, 2012 8:25 PM
I was really surprised to find out that the aunt was the one who made the car go in the water. What a twist to whole story. Loved it.
Bob from Mass.
June 18th, 2012 8:20 PM
I picked up this series in the second season, prepped by story summaries and my daughter who had watched season one. Though confusing and slow going sometimes, I thought the ending was well-done, nicely articulated, subtle, unusual in the way it left you down, but at least authentically so. How often do you feel like, once you discover the real killer, like Terri, you have compassion for them? And the final scene with Richmond, one of the best understated scenes I've seen in memory. I'll pass on one observation about Terri from my daughter, however: it feels like they pulled that one out of their ass, only because her previous behavior didn't seem in synch with the terrible secret she had been keeping.
james chan
June 18th, 2012 7:10 PM
@dcornelius
I agree
It means
a.There is no trial.
b.Ames has to go down because he was at the scene of the crime, an accessory, and co-conspirator. If a felony is committed....with Jaimie dead, the umbrella would include both Terry and Ames.
c.either way richmond is a complete corrupt jerk.
kay
June 18th, 2012 5:36 PM
This season was a little on the boring side. So glad they finally found the killers. I couldn't believe Terry killing for a Man wow. I will definetly be watching next season I really like the Detectives.
Colleen
June 18th, 2012 4:06 PM
Sooo drawn out! Seriously! They way over did it! I almost didn't care anymore. Two seasons to present the killer was one season too long. Obviously they drew me back this year so they did something right. I probably wouldn't watch another season inless they conclude in one season. Liked the main characters and would like to see how things work out for them but not at the expense of having to watch it drag on endlessly!
I really liked reading these blogs and everyone's take on the show, it actually makes me hope they come back!
mike
June 18th, 2012 2:10 PM
I liked the narrative and the way the series took chances. I hope it returns for season three, although the dark ending fits in with the atmosphere and the overall arc of the story. If there is no Season Three, "The Killing" could go down as one of the best "two season TV shows" in the history of TV!
Sean McKenna Rank: Staff Member
June 18th, 2012 1:58 PM
@Jack - Yeah, Linden and Holder probably could have used a shower or something. Maybe find a clean sweater? I think there are loose ends as well, but for me the conclusiveness and emotional ending to figuring it all out in regards to what happened, worked for me.
@Suzanne - Security really did seem non existent. I was even surprised that both the Richmond camp and Adams camp were in the same building. I never knew that they were that close. Does it always work like that or just works for this story. And it does work well as a final episode, and I kind of hope that if they do get the chance to come back, to take a new direction and leave the Larsen case and its surrounding connections behind to try something different.
@Marisa1983 - At first I suspected Terry was involved and committed the murder out of her desire and love for Aames. And she did, but it was shocking that she had no idea that it was Rosie. Such an anguished filled scene.
Suzanne
June 18th, 2012 1:29 PM
I loved the finale, if that wasn't clear.
Not sure how they will continue, if it is renewed. This felt pretty final -especially if Linden really leaves. Perhaps it would be better for them to end it here, resting on their considerable laurels.
Millie
June 18th, 2012 1:03 PM
I thought the series is (hopefully not "was")phenomenal in that it is not a copy of anything else or a brainless reality show. The finale was perfect. It was shocking and the flashback of how the young girl ended up dying was upsetting. A brilliant show, totally satisfying. I hope they come back; Linden & Holder are such interesting characters. And I hope they do not change the way the show looks, depressing or not, because that's what makes it different than all the other crap on t.v.
Marisa1983 Rank: Recurring Character
June 18th, 2012 11:56 AM
As opposed to many of you, I thought the finale was great. So heartbreaking when Terry realised she killed her niece. I could feel her pain. That's why I never suspected her. She might have been shady and lack morals, but I felt she loved her niece and would never hurt her. Was disappointed at the end to see Richmond turned out to be exactly like Adams... Could we at least for once see a politician on TV who is not corrupt. Already that we have to deal with real-life corrupt politicians.
Suzanne
June 18th, 2012 11:50 AM
Oops - Sorry! Joel Kinnaman; not Billy Campbell, of course. Duh!
Oh, and one more quibble: Security at Seattle City Hall seems to be non-existent, with all the running around and skulking around with nary a question.
Suzanne
June 18th, 2012 11:47 AM
Jamie: Clearly suicide-by-cop. Great acting throughout the episode by Eric Ladin.
Great final plot twist with Terry - Made even more chilling by the fact that she didn't seem to care that she murdered A girl; her only remorse was for it having been Rosie.
Richmond - Having a relationship with Gwen and keeping her on his staff would have been very problematic, but to just freeze her out of both aspects of his life was horrible - Bastard!
Aames - Seems like he could at least have been nailed as an accessory, and for fraud (the Chief should have been charged with fraud, too, given the bones falsely buried - further proof Richmond is, indeed taking steps toward the Dark Side)
Linden - Shouldn't she have been calling Jack as she walked away, telling him she loved him and perhaps that she'd be joining him or seeing him soon? Or did she forget him? One would have thought the family drama of the Larson's would have been a sharp reminder.
Holder/Billy Campbell is still my favor
dcornelius
June 18th, 2012 11:41 AM
My thoughts:
I am actually not that surprised about Terry...I always saw her as kind of unscrupulous person. Getting her niece involved in dodgy stuff, kissing her sister's husband, dating a married man...she clearly has no morals whatsoever.
As for how Terry was implicated: They knew that Ames (the man she was seeing was involved somehow) and also a car with a broken tail light...when they see her car with the broken tail light and they already knew she had an affair with Ames they put two and two together. Granted, they had no evidence whatsoever other than the car...which could have belonged to anyone and the only people at that could corroborate this version of events were Jamie (dead) and Ames that would never have talked because it would had placed him there at the scene of a crime. The fact that she confessed was dumb.
Long wait ... And it is a great show and last night great....AMC rocks ......BUT... The Borgias finale was Better !!!!!
Jack
June 18th, 2012 11:14 AM
I found that Enos and Kinnaman mumbled a great deal of the time, therefore I miseed hearing some crucial information. Did you also feel like these two were in desperste need of a shower, or a change of clothing? And will someone please tell me about how Terry was implicated? What was she doing there to begin with? Was Rosie working at the casino? In what capacity? I also feel that Jamie was madly in love with Richmond and would kill for him. But what could Rosie have heard that was so damnning thatJamie had to beat the s...t out of her? The time span of the series was about 28 days in total. So little time for so much to transpire and be solved in that period. I still thin that there were a lot of loose ends. Does Linden ever go back to California to be with the guy she was going to marry?And what about the little affair between Tery and her brother-in-law? Where did that go, except for Mitch finding some very abbreviated black panties. I would love to see a printed summation of the f
Sall23
June 18th, 2012 11:11 AM
A let-down, but then again, so was much of this series in terms of the writing. This is not a show for the observant, and the writing often lacked credibility in the investigation. The acting was great and deserves awards for a wonderful ensemble cast. The original was more cohesive, dynamic and intelligent.
Chip
June 18th, 2012 9:25 AM
(continued from previous post)
both committing murder only over desperation that they might lose what they're most pining for (i.e., in both cases from their perspective, a ticket to a better life).
I want much more of Linden and Holder, but not in a murder-per-season format. The Killing is (unfortunately probably now was) best in showing the impact of a murder on a community.
Chip
June 18th, 2012 9:24 AM
You've got to hand it to the much-maligned creative team -- most of what went on over the two seasons was not aimless wandering, but slow-burn character and atmosphere development that contributed to the final resolution (even if the plot details themselves were weak). Jamie's "I did it all for you" speech to Richmond was way over the top, but to be fair he's acted like a spurned lover ever since the "you left me out in the cold" discussion with Richmond in season 1. Gwen and Jamie played a rivalry game of who would watch over Richmond in the first few episodes of season 2, with Jamie winning and influencing Gwen to quit and go to DC. Terry's shock in reaction to finding pictures of Rosie in the car a few episodes back pointed to her possible involvement. And given the disparity between social classes that was so much a part of the creative team's interest, it's fitting that the two people most responsible for Rosie Larson's death would be one from each side of the tracks, both committ
Sean McKenna Rank: Staff Member
June 18th, 2012 8:41 AM
@adge - I think JH is right in that Linden still had some questions about the lake and using her non stop detective skills continued to mull over the clues and evidence until all the dots connected together. Linden's hunch because of it led them to Terry but Terry's confession allowed for everything to finally make sense.
@Guest - Jamie was clearly eager to do whatever was necessary for Richmond. Talk about intense devotion.
@EosEmma - I agree about the one season thing and would love to see Enos and Kinnaman back. And if the show doesn't make it back, I'll be certainly sure to follow Kinnaman's career because man that guy can act.
EosEmma
June 18th, 2012 6:57 AM
Great acting, Enos and Kinnaman .. interesting characters, Holder and Linden. Would like to see them team up again .. but only to solve the crime in one season. I got the impression that Terry thought the girl in the trunk was already dead when she eased the car into the lake .. which would make sense of Linden's "Oh yeah, who was that?" when Holder said "We got the bad guy."
JH
June 18th, 2012 5:27 AM
If I remember correctly it was said earlier in the season that there was a car with a broken tail light the night of the murder.So with them knowing she had relationship with Adams and he was there that night, it connected the dots. Hope that helps.
Guest
June 18th, 2012 2:59 AM
I thought Jamie did the suicide by cop thing because it was best for Richmond. If he'd let himself be arrested, there'd be cameras and interviews and all sorts of stuff haunting Richmond's time in office. But, by dying the way he did, everything was finalized...
adge
June 18th, 2012 2:23 AM
Amazing ending...I just don't remember why they knew it was Terry because of the broken light on the car? Can someone explain that to me? Thanks :)
June 19th, 2012 12:42 PM
My question is: How did Jaime get Rosie out of the casino? We all saw him leaving alone in the elevator...
June 19th, 2012 11:07 AM
Did it work as a drama? I'd give it a 3 out of 5. As a police show? 2 out of 5. Story, plot, and making sense? 2 out of 5.
Jamie gunned down? Did it for Richmond? don't buy it. The aunt? did it so her lover wouldn't go back to his wife? Don't buy it. That he would be screaming all that at Jamie over and over while the aunt was 20 feet away? Don't buy it. These are not shortfalls of the viewer, they are shortfalls of the writers who didn't set any of this up - really anyone could have killed her - and changed characters however they wanted in order to fill the many, glaring plot holes. Mostly great acting, but the writing was middle of the road.
June 18th, 2012 8:25 PM
I was really surprised to find out that the aunt was the one who made the car go in the water. What a twist to whole story. Loved it.
June 18th, 2012 8:20 PM
I picked up this series in the second season, prepped by story summaries and my daughter who had watched season one. Though confusing and slow going sometimes, I thought the ending was well-done, nicely articulated, subtle, unusual in the way it left you down, but at least authentically so. How often do you feel like, once you discover the real killer, like Terri, you have compassion for them? And the final scene with Richmond, one of the best understated scenes I've seen in memory. I'll pass on one observation about Terri from my daughter, however: it feels like they pulled that one out of their ass, only because her previous behavior didn't seem in synch with the terrible secret she had been keeping.
June 18th, 2012 7:10 PM
@dcornelius
I agree
It means
a.There is no trial.
b.Ames has to go down because he was at the scene of the crime, an accessory, and co-conspirator. If a felony is committed....with Jaimie dead, the umbrella would include both Terry and Ames.
c.either way richmond is a complete corrupt jerk.
June 18th, 2012 5:36 PM
This season was a little on the boring side. So glad they finally found the killers. I couldn't believe Terry killing for a Man wow. I will definetly be watching next season I really like the Detectives.
June 18th, 2012 4:06 PM
Sooo drawn out! Seriously! They way over did it! I almost didn't care anymore. Two seasons to present the killer was one season too long. Obviously they drew me back this year so they did something right. I probably wouldn't watch another season inless they conclude in one season. Liked the main characters and would like to see how things work out for them but not at the expense of having to watch it drag on endlessly!
I really liked reading these blogs and everyone's take on the show, it actually makes me hope they come back!
June 18th, 2012 2:10 PM
I liked the narrative and the way the series took chances. I hope it returns for season three, although the dark ending fits in with the atmosphere and the overall arc of the story. If there is no Season Three, "The Killing" could go down as one of the best "two season TV shows" in the history of TV!
Rank: Staff Member
June 18th, 2012 1:58 PM
@Jack - Yeah, Linden and Holder probably could have used a shower or something. Maybe find a clean sweater? I think there are loose ends as well, but for me the conclusiveness and emotional ending to figuring it all out in regards to what happened, worked for me.
@Suzanne - Security really did seem non existent. I was even surprised that both the Richmond camp and Adams camp were in the same building. I never knew that they were that close. Does it always work like that or just works for this story. And it does work well as a final episode, and I kind of hope that if they do get the chance to come back, to take a new direction and leave the Larsen case and its surrounding connections behind to try something different.
@Marisa1983 - At first I suspected Terry was involved and committed the murder out of her desire and love for Aames. And she did, but it was shocking that she had no idea that it was Rosie. Such an anguished filled scene.
June 18th, 2012 1:29 PM
I loved the finale, if that wasn't clear.
Not sure how they will continue, if it is renewed. This felt pretty final -especially if Linden really leaves. Perhaps it would be better for them to end it here, resting on their considerable laurels.
June 18th, 2012 1:03 PM
I thought the series is (hopefully not "was")phenomenal in that it is not a copy of anything else or a brainless reality show. The finale was perfect. It was shocking and the flashback of how the young girl ended up dying was upsetting. A brilliant show, totally satisfying. I hope they come back; Linden & Holder are such interesting characters. And I hope they do not change the way the show looks, depressing or not, because that's what makes it different than all the other crap on t.v.
Rank: Recurring Character
June 18th, 2012 11:56 AM
As opposed to many of you, I thought the finale was great. So heartbreaking when Terry realised she killed her niece. I could feel her pain. That's why I never suspected her. She might have been shady and lack morals, but I felt she loved her niece and would never hurt her. Was disappointed at the end to see Richmond turned out to be exactly like Adams... Could we at least for once see a politician on TV who is not corrupt. Already that we have to deal with real-life corrupt politicians.
June 18th, 2012 11:50 AM
Oops - Sorry! Joel Kinnaman; not Billy Campbell, of course. Duh!
Oh, and one more quibble: Security at Seattle City Hall seems to be non-existent, with all the running around and skulking around with nary a question.
June 18th, 2012 11:47 AM
Jamie: Clearly suicide-by-cop. Great acting throughout the episode by Eric Ladin.
Great final plot twist with Terry - Made even more chilling by the fact that she didn't seem to care that she murdered A girl; her only remorse was for it having been Rosie.
Richmond - Having a relationship with Gwen and keeping her on his staff would have been very problematic, but to just freeze her out of both aspects of his life was horrible - Bastard!
Aames - Seems like he could at least have been nailed as an accessory, and for fraud (the Chief should have been charged with fraud, too, given the bones falsely buried - further proof Richmond is, indeed taking steps toward the Dark Side)
Linden - Shouldn't she have been calling Jack as she walked away, telling him she loved him and perhaps that she'd be joining him or seeing him soon? Or did she forget him? One would have thought the family drama of the Larson's would have been a sharp reminder.
Holder/Billy Campbell is still my favor
June 18th, 2012 11:41 AM
My thoughts:
I am actually not that surprised about Terry...I always saw her as kind of unscrupulous person. Getting her niece involved in dodgy stuff, kissing her sister's husband, dating a married man...she clearly has no morals whatsoever.
As for how Terry was implicated: They knew that Ames (the man she was seeing was involved somehow) and also a car with a broken tail light...when they see her car with the broken tail light and they already knew she had an affair with Ames they put two and two together. Granted, they had no evidence whatsoever other than the car...which could have belonged to anyone and the only people at that could corroborate this version of events were Jamie (dead) and Ames that would never have talked because it would had placed him there at the scene of a crime. The fact that she confessed was dumb.
Rank: Guest Star
June 18th, 2012 11:37 AM
Long wait ... And it is a great show and last night great....AMC rocks ......BUT... The Borgias finale was Better !!!!!
June 18th, 2012 11:14 AM
I found that Enos and Kinnaman mumbled a great deal of the time, therefore I miseed hearing some crucial information. Did you also feel like these two were in desperste need of a shower, or a change of clothing? And will someone please tell me about how Terry was implicated? What was she doing there to begin with? Was Rosie working at the casino? In what capacity? I also feel that Jamie was madly in love with Richmond and would kill for him. But what could Rosie have heard that was so damnning thatJamie had to beat the s...t out of her? The time span of the series was about 28 days in total. So little time for so much to transpire and be solved in that period. I still thin that there were a lot of loose ends. Does Linden ever go back to California to be with the guy she was going to marry?And what about the little affair between Tery and her brother-in-law? Where did that go, except for Mitch finding some very abbreviated black panties. I would love to see a printed summation of the f
June 18th, 2012 11:11 AM
A let-down, but then again, so was much of this series in terms of the writing. This is not a show for the observant, and the writing often lacked credibility in the investigation. The acting was great and deserves awards for a wonderful ensemble cast. The original was more cohesive, dynamic and intelligent.
June 18th, 2012 9:25 AM
(continued from previous post)
both committing murder only over desperation that they might lose what they're most pining for (i.e., in both cases from their perspective, a ticket to a better life).
I want much more of Linden and Holder, but not in a murder-per-season format. The Killing is (unfortunately probably now was) best in showing the impact of a murder on a community.
June 18th, 2012 9:24 AM
You've got to hand it to the much-maligned creative team -- most of what went on over the two seasons was not aimless wandering, but slow-burn character and atmosphere development that contributed to the final resolution (even if the plot details themselves were weak). Jamie's "I did it all for you" speech to Richmond was way over the top, but to be fair he's acted like a spurned lover ever since the "you left me out in the cold" discussion with Richmond in season 1. Gwen and Jamie played a rivalry game of who would watch over Richmond in the first few episodes of season 2, with Jamie winning and influencing Gwen to quit and go to DC. Terry's shock in reaction to finding pictures of Rosie in the car a few episodes back pointed to her possible involvement. And given the disparity between social classes that was so much a part of the creative team's interest, it's fitting that the two people most responsible for Rosie Larson's death would be one from each side of the tracks, both committ
Rank: Staff Member
June 18th, 2012 8:41 AM
@adge - I think JH is right in that Linden still had some questions about the lake and using her non stop detective skills continued to mull over the clues and evidence until all the dots connected together. Linden's hunch because of it led them to Terry but Terry's confession allowed for everything to finally make sense.
@Guest - Jamie was clearly eager to do whatever was necessary for Richmond. Talk about intense devotion.
@EosEmma - I agree about the one season thing and would love to see Enos and Kinnaman back. And if the show doesn't make it back, I'll be certainly sure to follow Kinnaman's career because man that guy can act.
June 18th, 2012 6:57 AM
Great acting, Enos and Kinnaman .. interesting characters, Holder and Linden. Would like to see them team up again .. but only to solve the crime in one season. I got the impression that Terry thought the girl in the trunk was already dead when she eased the car into the lake .. which would make sense of Linden's "Oh yeah, who was that?" when Holder said "We got the bad guy."
June 18th, 2012 5:27 AM
If I remember correctly it was said earlier in the season that there was a car with a broken tail light the night of the murder.So with them knowing she had relationship with Adams and he was there that night, it connected the dots. Hope that helps.
June 18th, 2012 2:59 AM
I thought Jamie did the suicide by cop thing because it was best for Richmond. If he'd let himself be arrested, there'd be cameras and interviews and all sorts of stuff haunting Richmond's time in office. But, by dying the way he did, everything was finalized...
June 18th, 2012 2:23 AM
Amazing ending...I just don't remember why they knew it was Terry because of the broken light on the car? Can someone explain that to me? Thanks :)