Revolution Review: A Powerful Premiere? Comments (Page 3)
73 Comments
tony
September 18th, 2012 11:48 PM
The cause of the electrical circuit damage in this series in all cars, computers, and utility companies is likely from a large EMP (electromagnetic pulse). Even with this, older cars with points instead of electronic distributors would still run. Also cars that were in valleys, subways, or shielded by mountains, and large dirt encumbrances may survive this pulse. It's highly unlikely every new car would be damaged given the uneven terrain and locations of vehicles. Newer vehicles could have their electronic distributers bypassed with older point types, and fuel injector replaced with older type carburetors and should run fine. This would be an industry in itself converting newer vehicles over. Also, the few vital pieces in the manufacture facilities that need to be made to replace burnt electronics to get all the machines back and running could be fabricated with available means by generating mfg plant electricity via fuel generators. Where is solar, or water power from rivers such as
gazza
September 18th, 2012 11:12 PM
yeah, somewhat entertaining but could use better actors...will give it a chance.
If nothing else you could turn "spot the plot flaws" into a drinking game each episode, here's a few everyone seems to have missed:
1) The dad obviously knew people were coming after him so he decided to continue on for 15 years using his old name and then, when the people he feared showed up looking for him, he decided to confess to being the person they were looking for
2) At the end it appeared the device turned on technology in a limited radius...so where is the electricity in the light bulb coming from? the power stations don't work so nothing is coming down the lines...which wouldn't have been maintained for 15 years anyway. Same issue with the computer, it needs working infrastructure between itself and the person on the other end (although I might except that the secret people with power could still have some working satellites I guess)
however finding her uncle wasn't a plot flaw, her
Mike M
September 18th, 2012 9:13 PM
By the way, for those asking why the power went off, well that is obviously the big reveal that will take place at the end of a couple of seasons (I doubt this will last that long) or at the end of the show. You can just hear the Execs, we need another Lost, something that will keep everyone guessing and keep them tuning back in.
Mike M
September 18th, 2012 9:08 PM
OK, first all of the planes fall out of the sky in flat/inverted spins with their lights STILL ON!!!!! Ok it was only a few planes shown, but all spinning out of control.
Next, two young people are out sustenance hunting and the bow is strung on the girls back. If you are sustenance hunting YOU ARE HUNGRY, you have your bow ready and you don't explore things that can't help you get food.
The rest of it wasn't worth watching. I can see the meeting...OK, but can the lead be a young woman/girl and can she have a bow like ....
The rest is just more insulting TV. Learn from your mistakes or just keep recreating the same crap.
Tarsus
September 18th, 2012 7:15 PM
I liked it, but I won't be so kind in my review. The narrative said its only been 15 years since the electricity turned off. So...
1. What happened to the military? Are we to believe they all turned into militia? Extremely lame.
2. What happened to all the guns? What they all just disappeared? There is no way they would have all been used in 15 years. And, why is everyone using flintlocks? There is no way this would happen in just 15 years. 50 years maybe, but no way 15 years.
3. Why do the swords look like bayonets? At a minimum they would have opted for a katana type weapon.
4. Where was the solar and/or wind power at the settlement?
All of the above would have been commonly known at the time the electricity turned off. And, there is absolutely no chance that any of the above would/should not be present 15 years after the electricity turned off.
J. J. Abrams should have consulted with Kevin Costner about his Postman movie and it would have made far mor
DeAnn Rank: Recurring Character
September 18th, 2012 4:49 PM
I thought the same thing as the reviewer and some of the other commenters, as in, why didn't they get steam or other engines of industry working? I also thought their clothing looked too new and clean, and they all seemed very well fed for people having to live off the land for the past 15 years. Everyone had nice dental work, too, like they all just went off to the orthodontist...I also can't imagine where that woman got her inhaler, unless she ransacked a hospital and has a bunch of medical supplies that she has hoarded. And I saw a lot of candles in use, but what about oil lamps? And as someone who grew up with asthma and allergies, I can't imagine that Charlie's brother would have survived in a world without antihistamines and inhalers and cortisone, and he certainly wouldn't be a big, robust teenager if he grew up struggling to breathe. Still, I did like the main character and I will continue to watch the show
Sue Ann Rank: Regular Character
September 18th, 2012 4:38 PM
I bailed after the daughter heard shots, and came running into view to see what was going on. She is a total idiot. Assuming she lives in a society where that kind of militia exists, and where owning a gun is a capital offense, only a fool runs into view like that. The bit I saw up to that point apparently makes it clear to me why I have never seen any of the other programs mentioned in the comments up to this point. To watch this kind of show requires a willing suspension of disbelief, and my disbelief was sitting on my shoulder going, "No, they have to be KIDDING!" about way too much here. I have been reading science fiction since 1957. This is derivative, and poorly thought-out. I only watched because I am an admirer of Tim Guinee. Looks like his character will die. So did my interest.
wizarddrummer
September 18th, 2012 3:47 PM
Reading one of the other posts... It brought up a whole lot of things.
1) There are today working steam engines so some of the rail roads should have immediately started switching to those.
2) steam engines drove ships as well
3) Steam and water powered (mechanically) textile mills, wood mills and many factories.
4) They lost electricity, they didn't loose knowledge. People could start fabricating small steam engines to operate cars, horse and buggy.
As one person put it, they didn't have to go back into the Dark Ages.
The world was quite industrialized before Edison came up with the light bulb and Tesla came up with the solution to transmit the power efficiently.
wizarddrummer
September 18th, 2012 3:38 PM
Part I
Cool Concept but less than stellar execution
There was no lead time for the blackout.
"It's happening is isn't it?" she says. (Well what and how did they know?)
Production designer not very good lots of mistakes (at least if you're looking to be somewhat realistic)
As the headlights of the cars are turning off on the highway how come we don't see the RED tail lights going out also? Look at any highway at night and you see an almost equal amount of RED staring you in the face as well as white.
Plane is falling in the region where the lights just went out. Everything else has the lights out ... Why are the Navigation lights, interior lights and the engines still running? The way the plane was spinning (a flat spin) is really not possible with engines whining and power. There's no physical damage so engines running means hydraulic pressure to move control surfaces.
No one looks grimy or "rough" around the edges. I didn't see any really tattered clothes. I have T
wizarddrummer
September 18th, 2012 3:38 PM
Part II (I hope I posted it in the right order)
Are you kidding me? After 15 years of rain, snow, dust storms, hot summers, cold winters, wind all sorts critters rummaging about (not to mention a multitude of humans0 and nothing fell through that open window on to those lovely white seats? Or trashed out the interior?
How is it that no one else appeared to have "stumbled" upon it? It was too clean, too pristine, to cosmetic. It looked like they had just turned over a slightly used RV and put some plants Ivy on it to give a weathered effect. The show "Falling Skies" has some stellar production design. Those people are gritty. They look like they've been at war.
Ferris Wheel scene: Charlies brown jacket and blue shirt look almost brand new. The only thing I could see was that the cuffs were a little frayed.
The trunks, by the plane, had very little dirt on them. And why have they not been scattered or confiscated? It's like the only people on the planet that existed after the
alanapaints
September 18th, 2012 3:08 PM
The whole premise feels like "Ok, who's got the universal remote?"
tahonia
September 18th, 2012 2:51 PM
just looked at the cast members--why isn't Maggie, Ben's girlfriend, included in the cast?
tahonia
September 18th, 2012 2:48 PM
I ewnjoyed the pilot. I like Miles. That being said, I'll watch as long as they show the reruns on Saturday unless NBC streams it online. Monday at 9CDT, I'm already torn between Hawaii 5-0 and Castle. Revolution does open a new genre, but I'm already committed, not wavering, between the two established shows. I appreciate NBC doing the rebroadcast on Saturdays, so I'll watch then.... and I'm kind of hoping some of the Jericho characters show up...or Josh Holloway.... or maybe John Noble when Fringe is over.
tahonia
September 18th, 2012 2:41 PM
love the comment about the computer reboot :-)
Deborah S Petty
September 18th, 2012 2:32 PM
This Will Be A Great Show We Liked The Pilot Show Last Night!! Keep It Going!!
Ronnie
September 18th, 2012 2:22 PM
I liked this show the first time I saw it....only then it was called Jericho.
PDWallace Rank: Guest Star
September 18th, 2012 2:14 PM
very disappointed in the pilot.....forced myself to stay watching the whole hour...only character worth watching was Giancarlo Esposito as mentioned in the review...I will stay with the show for a few more episodes to give it a chance.
@ PRIMUS1 - the show you refer to was Jericho
PRIMUS1
September 18th, 2012 1:51 PM
Can't think of the name of the show but wonder how much they are going to play off the show where all the nuclear bombs went off in America. Gerald McRaney stared in it until they killed him off. Life was hard, not to mention even towns were against each other,just to survive. Bad guy wanting to gain control all of The power. A few people in the know. Were they good guys or bad? Networks, are running out of ideas for sure.
Barbara Stoner
September 18th, 2012 1:32 PM
Horrible writing - every lame action movie cliche' in the book. Plot sequence makes little sense. Stupid son causes unnecessary mayhem. Dying father sends daughter to find uncle in the big bad city when he's just warned her against straying too far from little Pleasantville home. Drunk guy kills 20. I forget who Tom is. First place they find in Chicago is Wrigley Field? They would have had to walk through miles of ruined suburbs not to mention the entire West Side - unless, of course, Pleasantville is the old Kenilworth. And all the people are in the Loop. Of course. I like the Picasso statue too.
No electricity, hmmmm? Is there still lightning?
gatvfan Rank: Guest Star
September 18th, 2012 1:30 PM
I for one will not be watching. Sad excuse for a show. Boring!!!!!
Kevin
September 18th, 2012 1:21 PM
It's like a Disney version of the apocalypse. All cleaned up with perfect hair. As if!
Martin Stein
September 18th, 2012 1:16 PM
This show is weak sauce indeed. Typical NBC crap, great concept + poor execution. I'll be very surprised if it lasts more than 13 episodes.
Kevin
September 18th, 2012 1:12 PM
The clothes should look more beat up, not so pretty and new. Same for hair and makeup. I like that it's fairly gritty, but not enough so considering the post-apocalyptic time frame.
turquoise
September 18th, 2012 1:05 PM
I will reserve judgement after a few more episodes..Right now all i can say is i guess alot of beauticians survived. The ladies and men look pretty well groomed!
dvc
September 18th, 2012 12:53 PM
Simply an update to the movie the Postman staring Kevin Costner same darn thing, he knows the militia main guy in a post Apocalyptic Earth, Been There, Done that, boring movie, boring show
Tom: I have to say, you are the most irritable pain in the ass I have ever known.
September 18th, 2012 11:48 PM
The cause of the electrical circuit damage in this series in all cars, computers, and utility companies is likely from a large EMP (electromagnetic pulse). Even with this, older cars with points instead of electronic distributors would still run. Also cars that were in valleys, subways, or shielded by mountains, and large dirt encumbrances may survive this pulse. It's highly unlikely every new car would be damaged given the uneven terrain and locations of vehicles. Newer vehicles could have their electronic distributers bypassed with older point types, and fuel injector replaced with older type carburetors and should run fine. This would be an industry in itself converting newer vehicles over. Also, the few vital pieces in the manufacture facilities that need to be made to replace burnt electronics to get all the machines back and running could be fabricated with available means by generating mfg plant electricity via fuel generators. Where is solar, or water power from rivers such as
September 18th, 2012 11:12 PM
yeah, somewhat entertaining but could use better actors...will give it a chance.
If nothing else you could turn "spot the plot flaws" into a drinking game each episode, here's a few everyone seems to have missed:
1) The dad obviously knew people were coming after him so he decided to continue on for 15 years using his old name and then, when the people he feared showed up looking for him, he decided to confess to being the person they were looking for
2) At the end it appeared the device turned on technology in a limited radius...so where is the electricity in the light bulb coming from? the power stations don't work so nothing is coming down the lines...which wouldn't have been maintained for 15 years anyway. Same issue with the computer, it needs working infrastructure between itself and the person on the other end (although I might except that the secret people with power could still have some working satellites I guess)
however finding her uncle wasn't a plot flaw, her
September 18th, 2012 9:13 PM
By the way, for those asking why the power went off, well that is obviously the big reveal that will take place at the end of a couple of seasons (I doubt this will last that long) or at the end of the show. You can just hear the Execs, we need another Lost, something that will keep everyone guessing and keep them tuning back in.
September 18th, 2012 9:08 PM
OK, first all of the planes fall out of the sky in flat/inverted spins with their lights STILL ON!!!!! Ok it was only a few planes shown, but all spinning out of control.
Next, two young people are out sustenance hunting and the bow is strung on the girls back. If you are sustenance hunting YOU ARE HUNGRY, you have your bow ready and you don't explore things that can't help you get food.
The rest of it wasn't worth watching. I can see the meeting...OK, but can the lead be a young woman/girl and can she have a bow like ....
The rest is just more insulting TV. Learn from your mistakes or just keep recreating the same crap.
September 18th, 2012 7:15 PM
I liked it, but I won't be so kind in my review. The narrative said its only been 15 years since the electricity turned off. So...
1. What happened to the military? Are we to believe they all turned into militia? Extremely lame.
2. What happened to all the guns? What they all just disappeared? There is no way they would have all been used in 15 years. And, why is everyone using flintlocks? There is no way this would happen in just 15 years. 50 years maybe, but no way 15 years.
3. Why do the swords look like bayonets? At a minimum they would have opted for a katana type weapon.
4. Where was the solar and/or wind power at the settlement?
All of the above would have been commonly known at the time the electricity turned off. And, there is absolutely no chance that any of the above would/should not be present 15 years after the electricity turned off.
J. J. Abrams should have consulted with Kevin Costner about his Postman movie and it would have made far mor
Rank: Recurring Character
September 18th, 2012 4:49 PM
I thought the same thing as the reviewer and some of the other commenters, as in, why didn't they get steam or other engines of industry working? I also thought their clothing looked too new and clean, and they all seemed very well fed for people having to live off the land for the past 15 years. Everyone had nice dental work, too, like they all just went off to the orthodontist...I also can't imagine where that woman got her inhaler, unless she ransacked a hospital and has a bunch of medical supplies that she has hoarded. And I saw a lot of candles in use, but what about oil lamps? And as someone who grew up with asthma and allergies, I can't imagine that Charlie's brother would have survived in a world without antihistamines and inhalers and cortisone, and he certainly wouldn't be a big, robust teenager if he grew up struggling to breathe. Still, I did like the main character and I will continue to watch the show
Rank: Regular Character
September 18th, 2012 4:38 PM
I bailed after the daughter heard shots, and came running into view to see what was going on. She is a total idiot. Assuming she lives in a society where that kind of militia exists, and where owning a gun is a capital offense, only a fool runs into view like that. The bit I saw up to that point apparently makes it clear to me why I have never seen any of the other programs mentioned in the comments up to this point. To watch this kind of show requires a willing suspension of disbelief, and my disbelief was sitting on my shoulder going, "No, they have to be KIDDING!" about way too much here. I have been reading science fiction since 1957. This is derivative, and poorly thought-out. I only watched because I am an admirer of Tim Guinee. Looks like his character will die. So did my interest.
September 18th, 2012 3:47 PM
Reading one of the other posts... It brought up a whole lot of things.
1) There are today working steam engines so some of the rail roads should have immediately started switching to those.
2) steam engines drove ships as well
3) Steam and water powered (mechanically) textile mills, wood mills and many factories.
4) They lost electricity, they didn't loose knowledge. People could start fabricating small steam engines to operate cars, horse and buggy.
As one person put it, they didn't have to go back into the Dark Ages.
The world was quite industrialized before Edison came up with the light bulb and Tesla came up with the solution to transmit the power efficiently.
September 18th, 2012 3:38 PM
Part I
Cool Concept but less than stellar execution
There was no lead time for the blackout.
"It's happening is isn't it?" she says. (Well what and how did they know?)
Production designer not very good lots of mistakes (at least if you're looking to be somewhat realistic)
As the headlights of the cars are turning off on the highway how come we don't see the RED tail lights going out also? Look at any highway at night and you see an almost equal amount of RED staring you in the face as well as white.
Plane is falling in the region where the lights just went out. Everything else has the lights out ... Why are the Navigation lights, interior lights and the engines still running? The way the plane was spinning (a flat spin) is really not possible with engines whining and power. There's no physical damage so engines running means hydraulic pressure to move control surfaces.
No one looks grimy or "rough" around the edges. I didn't see any really tattered clothes. I have T
September 18th, 2012 3:38 PM
Part II (I hope I posted it in the right order)
Are you kidding me? After 15 years of rain, snow, dust storms, hot summers, cold winters, wind all sorts critters rummaging about (not to mention a multitude of humans0 and nothing fell through that open window on to those lovely white seats? Or trashed out the interior?
How is it that no one else appeared to have "stumbled" upon it? It was too clean, too pristine, to cosmetic. It looked like they had just turned over a slightly used RV and put some plants Ivy on it to give a weathered effect. The show "Falling Skies" has some stellar production design. Those people are gritty. They look like they've been at war.
Ferris Wheel scene: Charlies brown jacket and blue shirt look almost brand new. The only thing I could see was that the cuffs were a little frayed.
The trunks, by the plane, had very little dirt on them. And why have they not been scattered or confiscated? It's like the only people on the planet that existed after the
September 18th, 2012 3:08 PM
The whole premise feels like "Ok, who's got the universal remote?"
September 18th, 2012 2:51 PM
just looked at the cast members--why isn't Maggie, Ben's girlfriend, included in the cast?
September 18th, 2012 2:48 PM
I ewnjoyed the pilot. I like Miles. That being said, I'll watch as long as they show the reruns on Saturday unless NBC streams it online. Monday at 9CDT, I'm already torn between Hawaii 5-0 and Castle. Revolution does open a new genre, but I'm already committed, not wavering, between the two established shows. I appreciate NBC doing the rebroadcast on Saturdays, so I'll watch then.... and I'm kind of hoping some of the Jericho characters show up...or Josh Holloway.... or maybe John Noble when Fringe is over.
September 18th, 2012 2:41 PM
love the comment about the computer reboot :-)
September 18th, 2012 2:32 PM
This Will Be A Great Show We Liked The Pilot Show Last Night!! Keep It Going!!
September 18th, 2012 2:22 PM
I liked this show the first time I saw it....only then it was called Jericho.
Rank: Guest Star
September 18th, 2012 2:14 PM
very disappointed in the pilot.....forced myself to stay watching the whole hour...only character worth watching was Giancarlo Esposito as mentioned in the review...I will stay with the show for a few more episodes to give it a chance.
@ PRIMUS1 - the show you refer to was Jericho
September 18th, 2012 1:51 PM
Can't think of the name of the show but wonder how much they are going to play off the show where all the nuclear bombs went off in America. Gerald McRaney stared in it until they killed him off. Life was hard, not to mention even towns were against each other,just to survive. Bad guy wanting to gain control all of The power. A few people in the know. Were they good guys or bad? Networks, are running out of ideas for sure.
September 18th, 2012 1:32 PM
Horrible writing - every lame action movie cliche' in the book. Plot sequence makes little sense. Stupid son causes unnecessary mayhem. Dying father sends daughter to find uncle in the big bad city when he's just warned her against straying too far from little Pleasantville home. Drunk guy kills 20. I forget who Tom is. First place they find in Chicago is Wrigley Field? They would have had to walk through miles of ruined suburbs not to mention the entire West Side - unless, of course, Pleasantville is the old Kenilworth. And all the people are in the Loop. Of course. I like the Picasso statue too.
No electricity, hmmmm? Is there still lightning?
Rank: Guest Star
September 18th, 2012 1:30 PM
I for one will not be watching. Sad excuse for a show. Boring!!!!!
September 18th, 2012 1:21 PM
It's like a Disney version of the apocalypse. All cleaned up with perfect hair. As if!
September 18th, 2012 1:16 PM
This show is weak sauce indeed. Typical NBC crap, great concept + poor execution. I'll be very surprised if it lasts more than 13 episodes.
September 18th, 2012 1:12 PM
The clothes should look more beat up, not so pretty and new. Same for hair and makeup. I like that it's fairly gritty, but not enough so considering the post-apocalyptic time frame.
September 18th, 2012 1:05 PM
I will reserve judgement after a few more episodes..Right now all i can say is i guess alot of beauticians survived. The ladies and men look pretty well groomed!
September 18th, 2012 12:53 PM
Simply an update to the movie the Postman staring Kevin Costner same darn thing, he knows the militia main guy in a post Apocalyptic Earth, Been There, Done that, boring movie, boring show