Maybe it would be better to move H5O to Tuesday night where we have NCIS & NCIS LA as lead in. On Monday's It's a comedy night on CBS, and H50 is an Drama/action show.
walter Rank: Guest Star
October 17th, 2012 8:57 AM
One additional comment about ratings. H50 isn't getting much help from the CBS comedies that precede it. They are being beaten significantly by the two "talent" shows The Voice(NBC) and Dancing With the Stars(ABC) which run from 8-10 PM.
walter Rank: Guest Star
October 17th, 2012 8:37 AM
Enjoyable episode. One question - the team's star player is killed in the morning and that afternoon they play a game as if nothing happened? at least guys black arm bands?. Here are the ratings so far:
Revolution Castle H50
9/25 9.2 10.4 8.1
10/2 8.3 10.3 8.0
10/9 8.0 10.6 8.4
10/16 8.6 10.9 8.7
Numbers are millions of viewers. Revolution leads in the 18-49 age group. Castle has the most viewers but is last in the 18-49.
kelly
October 17th, 2012 5:20 AM
Doris is not like a normal mom just dropping in on her son. Firstly she abandoned Steve and pretended to be dead for 20 years. She keeps lying to him and told him she was leaving the Island but suddenly turns up making breakfast. Doesn't Steve want any answers or is "I did it to protect you" sufficient for him. Suddenly she wants to settle down but what happened to all the "danger". How is she protecting Steve by inviting danger to his home. She's putting Steve and especially Cath in danger - wouldn't Steve have a problem with that. What happened to Cath's Navy career. Where is she getting all this time to keep doing favours. So yeah the characterization is still a huge problem for me and I'll continue to express my issues with it. But it was nice to see a mix up in the pairings this week and I really hope the writers continue to do this. The show needs to keep mixing things up otherwise it becomes repetitive and less interesting.
martinelli Rank: Regular Character
October 17th, 2012 4:22 AM
@Emmydee23 - According to my poll 71% of the voters (252 people) think Wo Fat is Doris's son.
Emmydee23
October 17th, 2012 1:52 AM
my theory: I'm thinkin Wo Fat and Steve are half brothers...and he didnt kill her bc he cant shoot his mom.....just a thought
Allie
October 17th, 2012 1:19 AM
I agree, Lynette! A larger word count would be nice. I had to re type and I think my original comments that disappeared into Internet limbo was more eloquent than the final posting. Hehehe.
Lynnette
October 17th, 2012 12:01 AM
(cont.) his mom's room.
Would be nice if TVFanatic would give us a slightly larger word count to work with! H5-0 fans are a wordy group! LOL!
Lynnette
October 16th, 2012 11:58 PM
Thanks, Carissa, for your entertaining review! I enjoyed this episode, but then, I'm a pretty hardcore fan and as such, a rather boring commenter, because I have a hard time seeing anything wrong with an episode! This week, Christine Lahti wins kudos from me for portraying Doris as a woman attempting to fall back into the role of mother that she abandoned 20 years before. Talking to Steve as if he's a 15 year old boy again, pretending that nothing has changed in their relationship. It's not going to work, of course, Steve isn't 15 and he's had enough experiences to know better than to blindly trust someone who faked her death 20 years ago, abandoned her family and then waltzes back into the home cooking breakfast! Lots of other things I liked this week, too! Danny/Kono at the fortuneteller's and their little cargument afterwards! A "cowed" Chin telling Steve his mother is very convincing! All good. Oh, good procedural, too! Didn't figure out the killer until I saw him walk out of his
Allie
October 16th, 2012 11:51 PM
Cont-
The ball is in her court. I want to know how Joe fits into this. How long has he known about Doris being alive? How could he keep this from Steve's Dad, especially since they were as close as brothers could be. What was the timeline? What has Doris been up to all these years? And just for the record, i always liked Joe. Especially after the Korean rescue mission and the final scene where Joe had his hands on Steve's shoulders for the ride. Joe is Steve's surrogate Dad. Aaah, the questions are many. I'm buckling up for the ride :-) I think this will be a stellar season IMHO.
Allie
October 16th, 2012 11:41 PM
Great episode. Mixing up the partnerships with Kono and Danno was really enjoyable. They have great chemistry, not romantic, just very comfortable and funny. Loved the scene when Steve finds out that Chin brought Mom to HQ. Priceless expressions on Steve's face when Chin told him that his Mom called him out, when she was in the kitchen cooking breakfast and when she told him her plans to stay with him. Thought the writers did a great job of keeping all the characters in play and it wasn't awkward to watch. I like how they're easing Catherine in, good pace. And of course Mom's lying about the Wofat encounter but there's a story, just wait... for it.
I personally like Mom and think that the future episode will be exciting to watch. Can't wait to see MaryAnn come back and see her Mom. And my guess is WoFat knows who Doris is but not as Shelburne. She has something he wants and Doris knows it which makes her feel it's safe to come back to the island and stop hiding. The
Mrs. Cleaver Rank: Guest Star
October 16th, 2012 10:55 PM
Can we all at least agree that Alex O is looking FABULOUS and fit again? Saw where he and his girl are having a baby (in real life) so hoping he's in a good place and happy.
I've been a fan of Hawaii 50 since the first episode of the ORIGINAL SERIES way back in the SIXTIES. Gasp!!
I loved the fortune teller thinking that Dano and Kono were a couple: and their expressions and 'never-gonna-happen' denials.
Besides, back in the sixties, I was the geeky little sister who watched cop shows. Now I get to say things like: "you think that was scary, wait until Wo Fat shows up" and "Mary finally showed up, now the fun begins" and "Kono used to be a boy". That last one really got my sister's attention.
DeAnn Rank: Recurring Character
October 16th, 2012 9:50 PM
I enjoy H5O, as a rule, and I think the acting is pretty darned great for the most part, sure there are mistakes, there always will be, actors are human, directors are human, etc.
Still this episode was a bit too gross for my tastes, I honestly do not think they needed to show us this guys head being sliced off over and over...nasty. More suited to a horror movie than a crime drama.
But I did enjoy Christine Lahti as Steve's mom, and I loved how awkward his reaction was to her just dropping in, because it was realistic, as most boys/men react that way when mom drops by unexpectedly! I also enjoyed her chat with Daniel Dae Kim...she knew why he was there right away! Good job!
Kathy
October 16th, 2012 8:30 PM
I don't think the problem is that people have different opinions, what people have a problem with is the same people, week after week ripping the show apart same people as last year. It's ok to dislike something, but try to give credit when its due. This is not telling them what to think or feel, but if they go back and read every comment that they have made, they themselves have to see that they aren't happy, and its probably time to find a show that is more suited to them. Not saying, everyone who has a dislike does this, but if you have been on this site long enough, you just need to look at the name and figure out what they are going to say without reading it. I've complaints as well, and I don't look at it through rose colored glasses, but the majority of this show is great, as are the actors and their acting.
GA Viewer
October 16th, 2012 7:37 PM
The constant hand gestures and over acting by the Danny character are driving me away from the show. And now the director has the Steve character doing all that silly nonsense. Enough already. What made Alex O'Locklin so cool and sexy in Twilight was that he was laid back, understated, strong, and calm - this frenetic activity in the Hawaii 5 0 role is going to ruin his acting career.
kelly
October 16th, 2012 7:22 PM
Why do some feel the need to tell others how to think. It's pretty obvious there are many different viewpoints on what is good and not so good about the show. But whatever the writers are doing its not bringing back the viewers. Everyone blamed Lori last year but it was the weak writing and bad characterization that caused many to give up on the show and sadly that has continued into season 3.
I also agree that the chemistry is not there anymore because its been forced too much and I enjoyed the break from the McDanno. In fact I actually enjoyed Danny when he was away from Steve. I'm not as invested in the characters as I used to be, but except for Doris last night was an improvement.
This is a comment section so everyone has the right to his own opinion, we all have different tastes, Thank god otherwise it would very soon get bored in here. It's normal that people love some episodes and some don't.
I like Christine Lathi she plays her role perfectly and her scene's with Alex are wonderful. It is her character Doris I dislike but she is here for a reason to continue the storyline for Steve. What changed from 20 years ago that makes it safe for Doris to decide to stay in the house now? Wo-Fat is still there why fake her own death and leave her family in the first place. I hope we get answers soon and not in the season finale I don't want that Doris becomes a second Joe.
Kelly I can see your side of things. I too did not lik Lori. I do not like Doris but we are not supposed to like her and for that works.
I am sure some people find Danny annoying but I really like him.
jschoi
October 16th, 2012 5:54 PM
Not everyone is going to like every ep and if we don't I'd like to think we have as much a right to express that, but I guess I'm wrong.
As a student if I get a 90% on a paper I would like some criticism so I can make adjustments. Most eps I enjoy very much and love this show, it's the only show I watch every week and I have every ep and will probably download this one eventually, but I don't believe I have to like everything about every ep and I don't think that makes me a "crank". I just did not find this particular ep that enjoying. Thank for allowing me to have my opinion. Some sarcasm intended.
Teresa
October 16th, 2012 5:40 PM
@Lizzie I agree with you 100%!!! I. Always enjoy the show and then read comments and they bring me down. It's such and entertaining show with such a great cast. The writers try so hard to put a little bit of everything into a 40 minute show and people always pick everything apart. Try to watch it for laughs and entertainment not for realism.
null
October 16th, 2012 4:07 PM
I don't like the storyline with Steve's Mom. Either it was miscast or the acting is off. I don't buy it.
kelly
October 16th, 2012 3:54 PM
The writers probably see Doris as some complex character who had to make a difficult decision 20 years ago. They seem intent on telling us that's she just like Steve and her snarky personality shows how tough she is. But she's not tough and nothing like Steve at all, otherwise why did she have to hide for 20 years. She's just a rude opinionated woman. Why would Steve have loving memories of this woman. I hope he finally calls her on her crap and they don't have him accepting her lame excuses anymore. Maybe Steve then can close this chapter in his life and move on and finally realise that Cath is far more to him than someone to ask favours of.
dcb
October 16th, 2012 3:41 PM
i think the show has lost its way. it's still fairly enjoyable, but the formula that made it so great in the beginning seems to be gone. the rhythm of the show and chemistry between the characters is just off to me.
Rank: Regular Character
October 17th, 2012 10:59 AM
There is a poll on my blog about the ratings. You are welcome to vote. let's see what people think.
Rank: Guest Star
October 17th, 2012 9:08 AM
Maybe it would be better to move H5O to Tuesday night where we have NCIS & NCIS LA as lead in. On Monday's It's a comedy night on CBS, and H50 is an Drama/action show.
Rank: Guest Star
October 17th, 2012 8:57 AM
One additional comment about ratings. H50 isn't getting much help from the CBS comedies that precede it. They are being beaten significantly by the two "talent" shows The Voice(NBC) and Dancing With the Stars(ABC) which run from 8-10 PM.
Rank: Guest Star
October 17th, 2012 8:37 AM
Enjoyable episode. One question - the team's star player is killed in the morning and that afternoon they play a game as if nothing happened? at least guys black arm bands?. Here are the ratings so far:
Revolution Castle H50
9/25 9.2 10.4 8.1
10/2 8.3 10.3 8.0
10/9 8.0 10.6 8.4
10/16 8.6 10.9 8.7
Numbers are millions of viewers. Revolution leads in the 18-49 age group. Castle has the most viewers but is last in the 18-49.
October 17th, 2012 5:20 AM
Doris is not like a normal mom just dropping in on her son. Firstly she abandoned Steve and pretended to be dead for 20 years. She keeps lying to him and told him she was leaving the Island but suddenly turns up making breakfast. Doesn't Steve want any answers or is "I did it to protect you" sufficient for him. Suddenly she wants to settle down but what happened to all the "danger". How is she protecting Steve by inviting danger to his home. She's putting Steve and especially Cath in danger - wouldn't Steve have a problem with that. What happened to Cath's Navy career. Where is she getting all this time to keep doing favours. So yeah the characterization is still a huge problem for me and I'll continue to express my issues with it. But it was nice to see a mix up in the pairings this week and I really hope the writers continue to do this. The show needs to keep mixing things up otherwise it becomes repetitive and less interesting.
Rank: Regular Character
October 17th, 2012 4:22 AM
@Emmydee23 - According to my poll 71% of the voters (252 people) think Wo Fat is Doris's son.
October 17th, 2012 1:52 AM
my theory: I'm thinkin Wo Fat and Steve are half brothers...and he didnt kill her bc he cant shoot his mom.....just a thought
October 17th, 2012 1:19 AM
I agree, Lynette! A larger word count would be nice. I had to re type and I think my original comments that disappeared into Internet limbo was more eloquent than the final posting. Hehehe.
October 17th, 2012 12:01 AM
(cont.) his mom's room.
Would be nice if TVFanatic would give us a slightly larger word count to work with! H5-0 fans are a wordy group! LOL!
October 16th, 2012 11:58 PM
Thanks, Carissa, for your entertaining review! I enjoyed this episode, but then, I'm a pretty hardcore fan and as such, a rather boring commenter, because I have a hard time seeing anything wrong with an episode! This week, Christine Lahti wins kudos from me for portraying Doris as a woman attempting to fall back into the role of mother that she abandoned 20 years before. Talking to Steve as if he's a 15 year old boy again, pretending that nothing has changed in their relationship. It's not going to work, of course, Steve isn't 15 and he's had enough experiences to know better than to blindly trust someone who faked her death 20 years ago, abandoned her family and then waltzes back into the home cooking breakfast! Lots of other things I liked this week, too! Danny/Kono at the fortuneteller's and their little cargument afterwards! A "cowed" Chin telling Steve his mother is very convincing! All good. Oh, good procedural, too! Didn't figure out the killer until I saw him walk out of his
October 16th, 2012 11:51 PM
Cont-
The ball is in her court. I want to know how Joe fits into this. How long has he known about Doris being alive? How could he keep this from Steve's Dad, especially since they were as close as brothers could be. What was the timeline? What has Doris been up to all these years? And just for the record, i always liked Joe. Especially after the Korean rescue mission and the final scene where Joe had his hands on Steve's shoulders for the ride. Joe is Steve's surrogate Dad. Aaah, the questions are many. I'm buckling up for the ride :-) I think this will be a stellar season IMHO.
October 16th, 2012 11:41 PM
Great episode. Mixing up the partnerships with Kono and Danno was really enjoyable. They have great chemistry, not romantic, just very comfortable and funny. Loved the scene when Steve finds out that Chin brought Mom to HQ. Priceless expressions on Steve's face when Chin told him that his Mom called him out, when she was in the kitchen cooking breakfast and when she told him her plans to stay with him. Thought the writers did a great job of keeping all the characters in play and it wasn't awkward to watch. I like how they're easing Catherine in, good pace. And of course Mom's lying about the Wofat encounter but there's a story, just wait... for it.
I personally like Mom and think that the future episode will be exciting to watch. Can't wait to see MaryAnn come back and see her Mom. And my guess is WoFat knows who Doris is but not as Shelburne. She has something he wants and Doris knows it which makes her feel it's safe to come back to the island and stop hiding. The
Rank: Guest Star
October 16th, 2012 10:55 PM
Can we all at least agree that Alex O is looking FABULOUS and fit again? Saw where he and his girl are having a baby (in real life) so hoping he's in a good place and happy.
Rank: Extra
October 16th, 2012 10:29 PM
I've been a fan of Hawaii 50 since the first episode of the ORIGINAL SERIES way back in the SIXTIES. Gasp!!
I loved the fortune teller thinking that Dano and Kono were a couple: and their expressions and 'never-gonna-happen' denials.
Besides, back in the sixties, I was the geeky little sister who watched cop shows. Now I get to say things like: "you think that was scary, wait until Wo Fat shows up" and "Mary finally showed up, now the fun begins" and "Kono used to be a boy". That last one really got my sister's attention.
Rank: Recurring Character
October 16th, 2012 9:50 PM
I enjoy H5O, as a rule, and I think the acting is pretty darned great for the most part, sure there are mistakes, there always will be, actors are human, directors are human, etc.
Still this episode was a bit too gross for my tastes, I honestly do not think they needed to show us this guys head being sliced off over and over...nasty. More suited to a horror movie than a crime drama.
But I did enjoy Christine Lahti as Steve's mom, and I loved how awkward his reaction was to her just dropping in, because it was realistic, as most boys/men react that way when mom drops by unexpectedly! I also enjoyed her chat with Daniel Dae Kim...she knew why he was there right away! Good job!
October 16th, 2012 8:30 PM
I don't think the problem is that people have different opinions, what people have a problem with is the same people, week after week ripping the show apart same people as last year. It's ok to dislike something, but try to give credit when its due. This is not telling them what to think or feel, but if they go back and read every comment that they have made, they themselves have to see that they aren't happy, and its probably time to find a show that is more suited to them. Not saying, everyone who has a dislike does this, but if you have been on this site long enough, you just need to look at the name and figure out what they are going to say without reading it. I've complaints as well, and I don't look at it through rose colored glasses, but the majority of this show is great, as are the actors and their acting.
October 16th, 2012 7:37 PM
The constant hand gestures and over acting by the Danny character are driving me away from the show. And now the director has the Steve character doing all that silly nonsense. Enough already. What made Alex O'Locklin so cool and sexy in Twilight was that he was laid back, understated, strong, and calm - this frenetic activity in the Hawaii 5 0 role is going to ruin his acting career.
October 16th, 2012 7:22 PM
Why do some feel the need to tell others how to think. It's pretty obvious there are many different viewpoints on what is good and not so good about the show. But whatever the writers are doing its not bringing back the viewers. Everyone blamed Lori last year but it was the weak writing and bad characterization that caused many to give up on the show and sadly that has continued into season 3.
I also agree that the chemistry is not there anymore because its been forced too much and I enjoyed the break from the McDanno. In fact I actually enjoyed Danny when he was away from Steve. I'm not as invested in the characters as I used to be, but except for Doris last night was an improvement.
Rank: Guest Star
October 16th, 2012 6:50 PM
This is a comment section so everyone has the right to his own opinion, we all have different tastes, Thank god otherwise it would very soon get bored in here. It's normal that people love some episodes and some don't.
I like Christine Lathi she plays her role perfectly and her scene's with Alex are wonderful. It is her character Doris I dislike but she is here for a reason to continue the storyline for Steve. What changed from 20 years ago that makes it safe for Doris to decide to stay in the house now? Wo-Fat is still there why fake her own death and leave her family in the first place. I hope we get answers soon and not in the season finale I don't want that Doris becomes a second Joe.
Rank: Regular Character
October 16th, 2012 6:10 PM
Kelly I can see your side of things. I too did not lik Lori. I do not like Doris but we are not supposed to like her and for that works.
I am sure some people find Danny annoying but I really like him.
October 16th, 2012 5:54 PM
Not everyone is going to like every ep and if we don't I'd like to think we have as much a right to express that, but I guess I'm wrong.
As a student if I get a 90% on a paper I would like some criticism so I can make adjustments. Most eps I enjoy very much and love this show, it's the only show I watch every week and I have every ep and will probably download this one eventually, but I don't believe I have to like everything about every ep and I don't think that makes me a "crank". I just did not find this particular ep that enjoying. Thank for allowing me to have my opinion. Some sarcasm intended.
October 16th, 2012 5:40 PM
@Lizzie I agree with you 100%!!! I. Always enjoy the show and then read comments and they bring me down. It's such and entertaining show with such a great cast. The writers try so hard to put a little bit of everything into a 40 minute show and people always pick everything apart. Try to watch it for laughs and entertainment not for realism.
October 16th, 2012 4:07 PM
I don't like the storyline with Steve's Mom. Either it was miscast or the acting is off. I don't buy it.
October 16th, 2012 3:54 PM
The writers probably see Doris as some complex character who had to make a difficult decision 20 years ago. They seem intent on telling us that's she just like Steve and her snarky personality shows how tough she is. But she's not tough and nothing like Steve at all, otherwise why did she have to hide for 20 years. She's just a rude opinionated woman. Why would Steve have loving memories of this woman. I hope he finally calls her on her crap and they don't have him accepting her lame excuses anymore. Maybe Steve then can close this chapter in his life and move on and finally realise that Cath is far more to him than someone to ask favours of.
October 16th, 2012 3:41 PM
i think the show has lost its way. it's still fairly enjoyable, but the formula that made it so great in the beginning seems to be gone. the rhythm of the show and chemistry between the characters is just off to me.
that being said, i really enjoyed this review!