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October 12th, 2012 12:31 PM
To be entirely honest, I think this should have been between the last episode of season 3 and the opening of 4. I felt like it just wrapped up all the loose ends and then created an entirely new problem. Everything was just so "here in the moment". Not to mention the plot line exploded in our faces with the whole pastor thing. I don't know - I liked watching Stefan and Elena suffer with the supposed dooming thought of Elena turning (but we all knew that wasn't going to happen), and how Elena tried to fight against it and then ended up having to fight to even fully turn before she died. And here's where it's said out loud that Damon was right. Ugh, I'm so sick up Stefan being this (no pun intended) life-sucking fiend and Damon being the behind the scenes good guy.
October 12th, 2012 12:22 PM
Obviously When elena got the blood she was probably close enough to the cop to grab the keys to the cells, or was able to pull him closer and grab him and get them, it looked like it could be possible and it was probably easier when she got her strength back.
Rank: Recurring Character
October 12th, 2012 11:55 AM
She's nog gona 'Stick' with stefan. DELENA is gonna last forever&Etirnity.
October 12th, 2012 11:34 AM
WOW I LOVED the episode!
I guess I had low expectations before watching because I thought it was all gonna be about Elena and she'll be back to "I chose Stefan but uh-oh these memories are coming back and I'm back to being confused" but GLADLY, SHE STUCK WITH STEFAN. I hope that stays because the back and forth between the siblings is getting boring.
I also love Rebekah even more now. Loved that barn scene between Elena and Stefan and Rebekah listening.
I also loved Michael Trevino as Klaus! I'm a Forwood-turned-Klaroline fan and in some twisted way, I liked the forest scene. ;) But I'm also glad they're back in their bodies. :)
I loved the Klaus-Rebekah scene as well. I know, what an ass for a brother, right? But still... Klaus is a BAMF villain.
Missed Elijah!
Personally, I don't really care much about Bonnie's storyline.
Rank: Recurring Character
October 12th, 2012 10:26 AM
Yeah, but they were all vampires with a lot of strength..how would Elena free everyone? On TVD, Vampires get stronger with time, age and blood. It's Twilight mythos that says newborn vampires are the strongest, but not on TVD. I am still stumped by their escape.
Rank: Guest Star
October 12th, 2012 10:07 AM
Bonnie crossed a line, now she knows what awaits her if she ever does it again.
Honestly, I didn't like season 3 and felt it was dragging it a little bit. Hope this season won't, but it already hasn't started well. For me anyways. I couldn't even enjoy the hot scene in the woods, laughed a little, but still... How did they get out of the prison... well Elena now a vampire, has A LOT OF STRENGTH, meaning, she freed everyone ! Ta-da !
Rank: Guest Star
October 12th, 2012 10:04 AM
I am disappointed. When finally Elena becomes a vampire, it has to be like this. Of course they had to try and save her, as usual ! How many people have to die for her sake everytime. Gramms had to be the one, AGAIN ! Poor Bonnie, she is the witch, ALWAYS have to rely on her for EVERYTHING ! The only thing I enjoyed was Elena's struggle to drink the blood. THAT WAS IT !
That pastor, WHO THE HELL was he ! And why did he kill everyone at the end PLUS the verveine ? And I agree, how could he access the Salvator's supply, MAYBE through Lise...she probably had a set of keys, as the Sheriff.
Tyler is BACK YAY ! Unfortunately, so is Klaus. Minus Elena's blood. Good one Bekkah ! Thought he was really gonna kill her after that. Well, so long Klaus, you are no longer welcome !
Love the memories coming back part: that scene, LOVED IT ! Well now, Elena is a Vampire, with Stefan, and Damon is angry, AGAIN. What a circle !
Bonnie crossed a line, now she knows what awaits her if she ever does i
Rank: Recurring Character
October 12th, 2012 9:54 AM
One last comment, I DO think it's a great idea that the writers made Elena a vampire. They planned it well...slowly had everyone stripped from her (parents, Aunt Jenna, Uncle John, Alaric) so there are no real adult figures in her life. She was left with nothing but Jeremy. It was a good time for her to turn. I also changes the dynamic of the show and is a bit of a "next chapter" I'd say...no longer about protecting Elena all the time. More of vampires/werewolves/hybrids/witches against those that want to eliminate them.
But, everyone needs to get over these "ship wars". The triangle is the premise of the show. She will change her mind 100 times while the show is still on. Deal with it and focus on the other elements of the show.
Oh, I did forget to mention one other great scene...Klaus and Rebekah...beautifully acted by both :-)
Rank: Recurring Character
October 12th, 2012 9:46 AM
I, just like Matt R, would like to know how the council got their hands on the vervain. And I honestly was NOT happy with all the council drama in the first place...this episode should have focused entirely on Elena: the fall-out of Stefan's choice, the confrontation between the brothers, the guilt of Matt, Elena's sadness that she was going to give up so much and get a life she didn't want. I think they gave more attention to Caroline's transformation in Season 2!
And, yeah, how DID Stefan, Beks and Elena get out of the cages????
There WERE good parts: the Damon/Elena conversation, Jeremy frantically trying to revive Bonnie, Rebekah's change of heart while listening to Elena and Stefan (kudos to Paul Wesley in that scene), Caroline and Tyler/Klaus in the woods...
Overall, I think the problem was too much time between Season 3 final and Season 4 premiere, which was filled with spoilers, anticipation and ridiculously high expectations.
Rank: Recurring Character
October 12th, 2012 9:39 AM
As for the whole "shipping" thing, I don't really care. The triangle is the premise of the show, always will be. I loved the scene with Damon and Elena but I'm glad she stuck with Stefan for now. But she did say, at the end, "I can be with you forever...if that's what I want". I did think the way so remembered the time in her bedroom with Damon was done well!
The dying Elena/Stefan scene would have been more emotional if not for four months of spoilers, interviews and confirmations from Julie Plec that Elena would, in fact, turn. Plus, no show if she didn't. Not all that emotion really.
Rank: Recurring Character
October 12th, 2012 9:37 AM
Not going to lie, I agree with Matt. I liked the episode but was a tad disappointed. Perhaps too much anticipation and build-up? Maybe I was just expecting TOO MUCH epic-ness?
I was very confused by Bonnie crossing over to get Elena's soul but all she really did was go to Elena in the barn...not soul Elena, human-in-transition Elena. Way too confusing. And what's all this nonsense about Elena being on both sides? When to TVD EVER say that, once a person becomes a vampire, their spirit is on the other side while their body remains a vampire on this side? Huh? Again, I also agree that there is too much reliance on magic and this was terribly explained.
October 12th, 2012 8:50 AM
To those saying DE should happen right now, you might want to think again. Yes, DE shippers have waited forever and a day for it to happen, and yes, it's terrible to see Damon so alone and miserable all the time, especially now, but if DE happened right now, it would wreck the storyline and cheapen it for sure. Even WHEN Elena breaks it off with Stefan, she needs to be alone for a while before she can ever be with Damon, he deserves nothing less.
But to those saying DE will NEVER happen, I can promise one day you will eat your words. They will be together at some point in the series - maybe even as endgame.
Rank: Extra
October 12th, 2012 8:39 AM
Am I the only one who actually liked this episode ? ;D The plot was moving too fast, but still I liked it. A surprise Elena became a vampire ? Think not. It's been in the air for a long time.
It's funny how some people accuse Damon for killing Jeremy. Ok, he DID kill him, but Jer's alive and end of the story. That's why Elena should be with the most boring Stefan ?
See people, this is not real life. When you're watching a TV series, you don't want it to be straight from you own life - it gets boring ! That's why many want to see Elena with Damon, and Caroline with Klaus, including myself. With the bad guys ! Because it's SO.MUCH.MORE.INTERESTING.
Rank: Guest Star
October 12th, 2012 8:18 AM
i wanna see more of Dark Bonnie!
October 12th, 2012 8:07 AM
BEYOND bored with the constant reliance on Bonnie to get everyone out of problems. They really need to stop!
Rank: Guest Star
October 12th, 2012 7:07 AM
How DARE Stefan tell Matt he needs to "earn" his second life!!
HELLO you moronic hick! Matt had absolutely nothing to do with what happened, Rebekah drove HIM off the road and Elena and Stefan made the choice not Matt! The characters on his show are just becoming too much!
And Damon wasn't S01 Damon he was an idiot. As usual. Does this character have a brain, some sense?
Bonnie Bonnie Bonnie, I just don't know what to say about this girl anymore
October 12th, 2012 6:53 AM
Disappointing episode after last season and how that ended with Elena
as a vampire,was looking forward to how Elena would cope.
Rank: Guest Star
October 12th, 2012 6:38 AM
I even picked up the "love" usage, so I get how Caroline could.
Rank: Extra
October 12th, 2012 6:27 AM
I think I know why they were able to break out - Elena completed the transition and therefore had super-vampire strength (the others didn't because they were injured or vervained).
I actually liked the episode! A lot!
October 12th, 2012 6:27 AM
seriously?! Stefan and Elena...again?! what the hell is wrong with julie plec? We all want DELENA!
October 12th, 2012 5:30 AM
love love love Rebekah, Bonnie, Caroline like Elena but im sick of the love triangle i hope its barley present this season it will make the show way better.
October 12th, 2012 5:28 AM
The review was spot on. I still can't say why I watch the Vampire Diaries when I'm also addicting to shows like Fringe, in which there is no comparison. The writing is getting a li'll sloppy, mostly because they're trying to juggle too much in these episodes. Rule of writing I wish more TV shows would adapt - if you can't carry it, don't do it. Moving on, this show is my guilty pleasure despite its obvious flaws. Especially all the pretty mens constantly taking off their shirt. I do so appreciate. What I don't understand about TVD is why all you Damon lovers want him with Elena? I love Damon snarky. He's sexy. He's badass. He's rude. He does the things nobody else wants to do because they need to be done. He lets Matt die to save Elena he's that awesome a-hole. He's the one that stays with Alaric while he's dying because nobody else can handle it. Why do you want him with miss goody I-dun-wanna-be-a- vampire-two-shoes? Of course she has chemistry with Damon he's fraking hot. Dea
October 12th, 2012 5:17 AM
Great episode with better acting! Was fast paced but not too fast (for some) to work out what's going on. Love Bonnie and glad they're giving her more scenes as per viewer's requests. Want to see how this season pans out! ...
October 12th, 2012 5:14 AM
C'mon people. They are never ever putting Elena in bed with Damon. She sleeping with the brother of someone she has had that intense feelibgs for and that kind of relationship with is just nasty (not to mention he started the killings in the town, "killed" her brother, Stefan's bestie...and so on).
Never going further than that kiss!
October 12th, 2012 4:52 AM
i have to say, I was extremely disappointed by this episode.