i think the colorado kid is nathan's father which would make him audrey's grandson. Wild i know but makes sense the colorado kid sounds like nathan.
Rosie Lynn
November 13th, 2012 12:40 AM
I do not get this Audrey and Duke obsession! They are like brother and sister. Love the chemistry between Audrey and Nathan, they are just so adorable! Please writers do not play with our feelings and let this pair at least some happy moments before the season is over. P.S. Claire and Duke would be great together!
jenn
November 11th, 2012 9:08 PM
Omg I love this show. That was such a setup to let Tommy get away the whole accidentally falling on duke. I don't trust Jordan. Loved the Nathan Audrey moments and their chemistry. Can't wait for next week.
ariel
November 11th, 2012 6:32 PM
The Colorado kid's grave said find him before the hunter... what if tommy's trouble is that he is a hunter? And he's hunting the Kid? As the bolt gun killer, he seemed concerned with what Audrey knew and what the brothers were holding back.
carol
November 11th, 2012 1:54 PM
I don't think it was a house on the hill that he saw at the end....I think that is the mysterious "barn" that Audrey, Sarah, etc go into and don't come back out for 27 years.
I hope before the finale Audrey and Nathan get to have their moment! I don't like how a lot of shows drag these situations out and I would be greatly disappointed if Haven did that with Audrey and Nathan. I felt sorry for Duke because it is obvious that he is in love with Audrey as well.
thomo171
November 11th, 2012 12:39 PM
surely the house on the hill is the same as the one in season 2 which the 'original' Audrey went to find and came back with no memory?
mindi
November 11th, 2012 9:38 AM
Great episode!Nathan and Audrey killed it in tonights performances!!!Love the fact that audrey didnt care who heard her declaration of love.To her only nathan existed.Lucas and Emily blow it out of the water every time.The look in their eyes at the end....pure love.Cant wait for next week!
Jennifer
November 11th, 2012 6:55 AM
Also prefer audrey and duke better chemistry from the start. always saw the audrey-nathan pairing as a ,sibling type friendship but if the writers are not brave enough they will just take the obvious choice of nathan and audrey. though i think she won't end up with either of them.
i think audrey is probably the mother of all the troubled (family tree in opening credits) thus the ability to empathize and help them. The Teagues still know more than they are saying and i'm sure they also know who the colorado kid's father is. they probably want the troubles to continue because they've made lots of money from living for generations (i really believe they are VERY OLD and would probably die should the troubles stop) they are very motivated by self interest
Sarah
November 11th, 2012 2:23 AM
I'm going with the Tommy really isn't dead theory. No body it's just too easy. I'm also all for the Duke-Audrey hook up. They are so relaxed together and it works easily. Something that has never happened for Audrey and Nathan. Just my opinion though.
SperoMeliora Rank: Extra
November 10th, 2012 11:53 PM
Great episode. It was so frustrating when they didn't know that Tommy was the boltgun killer. Thankfully Audrey found the evil sister and with her the truth. The house on the island that the Teague brother saw at the end was obviously the "barn". I guess it's reappearing to take Audrey away, wipe her memory, keep her in suspended animation for decades and then spit her back out again. Question: When Audrey leaves, does the trouble leave as well? The boltgun killer is probably still alive. I wonder if he will still be in the Tommy body when we see him again. He is probably at least as old as Sarah, maybe more. He knows a lot about Haven's secrets for a young guy. I just hope he is not the Colorado kid's father. That will probably be Duke or Nathan during their time travel. On a side note, I can't believe the evil sister is being allowed to start a new life. Didn't she kill some people and fail to bring one of them back. I don't know if saving Nathan wipes the slate clean. Oh well.
Suzie
November 10th, 2012 10:48 PM
I'm Audrey/Duke too!!
Like I said in a previous post, there's a lot I like about Nathan and his dynamic with Audrey and I'm mostly certain they'll end up together, and really, that's not so bad, but there's an easiness between duke and Audrey that just screams chemistry!
I'm also mostly certain that tommy is still alive, there's just too much information we need from him.
There seems to be a lot of speculation that Nathan is the father of the Colorado kid and that's something I'm against( for the record, I wouldn't want duke be the father either). If I were betting, I'd still go with one of the teagues or someone we haven't met yet.
Lola
November 10th, 2012 9:51 PM
Pamela you are not the only one. I find the Nathan and Audrey pairing, predictable and we've seen it all before. Even the way it is being written with the supposed obstacles is old hat. i don't know when writers will dare to be different and bold and go for the not so obvious pairing. Besides, I find the chemistry between Balfour and Rose much more electric than Bryant and Rose. Lucas Bryant comes to life with Kate kelton. Nathan should stay with Jordan. Anyway, at this point I don't care anymore. It's the same trick, different show.
pamela
November 10th, 2012 8:10 PM
great episode! but, am i the only one who thinks that audrey and duke are the better couple?! nathan always has a stick up his you know what, i just have never liked his character. just my opinion on the matter. wonderful news about the renewal :)
kate
November 10th, 2012 7:11 PM
The whole sister storyline bothered me because I think it hit too close to home for me as I think mine has forgiven me for a misperceived wrong....anyway...I think what Vince saw was the barn that Audrey saw in her dreams and that Tommy was looking for. I theorize he was trying to recreate a Audrey frankenmonster to access the barn or something (he was weirdly upset when whichever Teague referred to the Colorado Kid as a drifter) I don't think he is actually dead..1 because we didn't see the actual boat right before the blow up and 2. we don't know what Tommy's trouble actually was. How about Dwight's tattoo? It could just be he is Guard but he doesn't like Duke (and not in that little brother way that Nathan does). I am curious if maybe Tommy and Audrey technically have the same mission and James was supposed to stop the cycle of the troubles but died before he could which was an outlier of destiny. I wonder if fate has put both Nathan and Duke in Audrey's path to actually have J
SapphireBlue8
November 10th, 2012 2:25 PM
It seems part 2's are never as good as part one's but this wasn't bad. actually wish Tommy had got more time with the Teagues they are annoying with their reluctance to divulge info, wouldn't be surprised if they are also troubled and are centuries old. Tommy cared about or cares about the colorado kid a lot so i think its arla cogan his wife because i don't think she was mentioned for no reasoson.
i hope there is more to the declaration of love than the viewers knowing audrey loves nathan and watching them avoid the issue till the end ( that's boring and has been done to death). i think audrey is related to either nathan or duke or both. max hansen nathan's father was surprisingly niice to audrey in the last episode of season 1 though everyone else hated him(that's interesting)
JJA
November 10th, 2012 12:41 PM
I have this theory that the "late" Chief Wournos is the Colorado kid.
We know that he & Lucy worked together to help the troubled, in the same way Nathan & Audrey are working together. Chronologically, he could be Sarah's son, which would make him 55-60 years old at the time of his death in season 1. The similarities to Nathan can also be explained by virtue of the fact that the Chief was his father (albeit, his adopted father). Also, if you recall, when the Chief died, the rocks he turned into continued to move after Vince & Dave collected them.
The only thing disputing this theory is that we saw the Chief's ghost in the season 2 finale. But, can the Chief come back to life when the rocks assemble?
DMH
November 10th, 2012 12:38 PM
Hooray! Haven renewed for Season 4! What we learned in this episode. Audrey/Nathan: I knew it all along that she loved him, had ALWAYS loved him and WILL ALWAYS love him, seeing Duke's face as he realized what he already knew was touching. Seeing Jordan touch Audrey's arm showed a connection that they both share for Nathan. I agree it took Nathan dyeing for Audrey to reveal her TRUE feelings for him, you could see the agony/desperation that she felt at the possibility of not bringing him back. Audrey/Duke: We got to see Duke come to understand their relationship and to see Audrey's pain at having pushed Nathan away. The Teague Brothers: I want to ring their necks! I am getting tired of them holding back information about Audrey! Very frustrating! Tommy: I don't believe he's dead, no body. Questions: what was Tommy's trouble? Will Andrea keep pushing Nathan away or will she FINALLY tell him she loves him? When will the Teague brothers spill what they know?nand what's up with the house
Marisa1983 Rank: Recurring Character
November 10th, 2012 7:32 AM
Oh my god, I just saw spoiler pictures and NATHAN is definitely the Colorado Kid's father. On the picture, we see them together in 1955 on a romantic date...
ariel
November 10th, 2012 6:57 AM
Tommy wanted to see the barn ...which apparently only appears to Audrey. But back when the other Audrey was there in Haven, she saw something so traumatic it took her memories. She saw it but Duke didn't. I think she saw what Tommy is looking for.
BRILLIANT episode. So many new questions, so many great scenes.
I am beginning to think that Vince and Dave will turn out to be some sort of antagonistic figures - they seemed more amused than frightened by Tommy's torture and its the second time Vince mentioned killing(the first time was in S1 finale when he confronted Nathan's real father and he was scared shitless).
Also the last Vince's line about "Everything being the way it's supposed to be" was hell of a creepy one.
Marisa1983 Rank: Recurring Character
November 10th, 2012 2:26 AM
I was on the edge of my seat all hour wondering how she would trigger the trouble. Seeing the preview for next week, I think DUKE is the Colorado Kid's father, since he's the one stuck in 1955. It would explain their connection as friends and why Audrey trusts him so much. it would also explain why no one knows who the father is. Unless Nathan goes back in time too to rescue Duke and he's the one sleeping with Sarah. Maybe she had a feeling he was the father, that's why she said she ALWAYS loved him. So much questions to answer and I like that we get tidbits of information every week. Like the reviewer said it's great that we get another season of Haven. That news made my day.
GeneralRapunzel Rank: Guest Star
November 10th, 2012 2:11 AM
I agree this wasn't quite as good as part one, but it did move the story along quite well. I don't believe Tommy is dead. After all, whenever the police fail to recover a body on TV that almost always means the bad guy got away. I loved that Audrey declared herself; now she just needs to tell a conscious Nathan. Duke is such a good guy to accept what happened, although deep inside he probably always knew. I doubt the Teagues will 'fess up everything to Audrey. Otherwise why wouldn't Vance have told her what was so significant on the island? The barn? I think Nathan might be the Colorado Kid's father.
Did anyone else think Tommy got offended when Duke called the Colorado Kid a drifter?
Gosh, poor Moira and Noelle. I did foresee that Noelle had saved Moira and thus not their father. If Moira hadn't been so blind, she might have seen that too. I think Noelle should have told her, however. However, that is seriously wonderful Trouble to have.
November 13th, 2012 4:56 PM
i think the colorado kid is nathan's father which would make him audrey's grandson. Wild i know but makes sense the colorado kid sounds like nathan.
November 13th, 2012 12:40 AM
I do not get this Audrey and Duke obsession! They are like brother and sister. Love the chemistry between Audrey and Nathan, they are just so adorable! Please writers do not play with our feelings and let this pair at least some happy moments before the season is over. P.S. Claire and Duke would be great together!
November 11th, 2012 9:08 PM
Omg I love this show. That was such a setup to let Tommy get away the whole accidentally falling on duke. I don't trust Jordan. Loved the Nathan Audrey moments and their chemistry. Can't wait for next week.
November 11th, 2012 6:32 PM
The Colorado kid's grave said find him before the hunter... what if tommy's trouble is that he is a hunter? And he's hunting the Kid? As the bolt gun killer, he seemed concerned with what Audrey knew and what the brothers were holding back.
November 11th, 2012 1:54 PM
I don't think it was a house on the hill that he saw at the end....I think that is the mysterious "barn" that Audrey, Sarah, etc go into and don't come back out for 27 years.
I hope before the finale Audrey and Nathan get to have their moment! I don't like how a lot of shows drag these situations out and I would be greatly disappointed if Haven did that with Audrey and Nathan. I felt sorry for Duke because it is obvious that he is in love with Audrey as well.
November 11th, 2012 12:39 PM
surely the house on the hill is the same as the one in season 2 which the 'original' Audrey went to find and came back with no memory?
November 11th, 2012 9:38 AM
Great episode!Nathan and Audrey killed it in tonights performances!!!Love the fact that audrey didnt care who heard her declaration of love.To her only nathan existed.Lucas and Emily blow it out of the water every time.The look in their eyes at the end....pure love.Cant wait for next week!
November 11th, 2012 6:55 AM
Also prefer audrey and duke better chemistry from the start. always saw the audrey-nathan pairing as a ,sibling type friendship but if the writers are not brave enough they will just take the obvious choice of nathan and audrey. though i think she won't end up with either of them.
i think audrey is probably the mother of all the troubled (family tree in opening credits) thus the ability to empathize and help them. The Teagues still know more than they are saying and i'm sure they also know who the colorado kid's father is. they probably want the troubles to continue because they've made lots of money from living for generations (i really believe they are VERY OLD and would probably die should the troubles stop) they are very motivated by self interest
November 11th, 2012 2:23 AM
I'm going with the Tommy really isn't dead theory. No body it's just too easy. I'm also all for the Duke-Audrey hook up. They are so relaxed together and it works easily. Something that has never happened for Audrey and Nathan. Just my opinion though.
Rank: Extra
November 10th, 2012 11:53 PM
Great episode. It was so frustrating when they didn't know that Tommy was the boltgun killer. Thankfully Audrey found the evil sister and with her the truth. The house on the island that the Teague brother saw at the end was obviously the "barn". I guess it's reappearing to take Audrey away, wipe her memory, keep her in suspended animation for decades and then spit her back out again. Question: When Audrey leaves, does the trouble leave as well? The boltgun killer is probably still alive. I wonder if he will still be in the Tommy body when we see him again. He is probably at least as old as Sarah, maybe more. He knows a lot about Haven's secrets for a young guy. I just hope he is not the Colorado kid's father. That will probably be Duke or Nathan during their time travel. On a side note, I can't believe the evil sister is being allowed to start a new life. Didn't she kill some people and fail to bring one of them back. I don't know if saving Nathan wipes the slate clean. Oh well.
November 10th, 2012 10:48 PM
I'm Audrey/Duke too!!
Like I said in a previous post, there's a lot I like about Nathan and his dynamic with Audrey and I'm mostly certain they'll end up together, and really, that's not so bad, but there's an easiness between duke and Audrey that just screams chemistry!
I'm also mostly certain that tommy is still alive, there's just too much information we need from him.
There seems to be a lot of speculation that Nathan is the father of the Colorado kid and that's something I'm against( for the record, I wouldn't want duke be the father either). If I were betting, I'd still go with one of the teagues or someone we haven't met yet.
November 10th, 2012 9:51 PM
Pamela you are not the only one. I find the Nathan and Audrey pairing, predictable and we've seen it all before. Even the way it is being written with the supposed obstacles is old hat. i don't know when writers will dare to be different and bold and go for the not so obvious pairing. Besides, I find the chemistry between Balfour and Rose much more electric than Bryant and Rose. Lucas Bryant comes to life with Kate kelton. Nathan should stay with Jordan. Anyway, at this point I don't care anymore. It's the same trick, different show.
November 10th, 2012 8:10 PM
great episode! but, am i the only one who thinks that audrey and duke are the better couple?! nathan always has a stick up his you know what, i just have never liked his character. just my opinion on the matter. wonderful news about the renewal :)
November 10th, 2012 7:11 PM
The whole sister storyline bothered me because I think it hit too close to home for me as I think mine has forgiven me for a misperceived wrong....anyway...I think what Vince saw was the barn that Audrey saw in her dreams and that Tommy was looking for. I theorize he was trying to recreate a Audrey frankenmonster to access the barn or something (he was weirdly upset when whichever Teague referred to the Colorado Kid as a drifter) I don't think he is actually dead..1 because we didn't see the actual boat right before the blow up and 2. we don't know what Tommy's trouble actually was. How about Dwight's tattoo? It could just be he is Guard but he doesn't like Duke (and not in that little brother way that Nathan does). I am curious if maybe Tommy and Audrey technically have the same mission and James was supposed to stop the cycle of the troubles but died before he could which was an outlier of destiny. I wonder if fate has put both Nathan and Duke in Audrey's path to actually have J
November 10th, 2012 2:25 PM
It seems part 2's are never as good as part one's but this wasn't bad. actually wish Tommy had got more time with the Teagues they are annoying with their reluctance to divulge info, wouldn't be surprised if they are also troubled and are centuries old. Tommy cared about or cares about the colorado kid a lot so i think its arla cogan his wife because i don't think she was mentioned for no reasoson.
i hope there is more to the declaration of love than the viewers knowing audrey loves nathan and watching them avoid the issue till the end ( that's boring and has been done to death). i think audrey is related to either nathan or duke or both. max hansen nathan's father was surprisingly niice to audrey in the last episode of season 1 though everyone else hated him(that's interesting)
November 10th, 2012 12:41 PM
I have this theory that the "late" Chief Wournos is the Colorado kid.
We know that he & Lucy worked together to help the troubled, in the same way Nathan & Audrey are working together. Chronologically, he could be Sarah's son, which would make him 55-60 years old at the time of his death in season 1. The similarities to Nathan can also be explained by virtue of the fact that the Chief was his father (albeit, his adopted father). Also, if you recall, when the Chief died, the rocks he turned into continued to move after Vince & Dave collected them.
The only thing disputing this theory is that we saw the Chief's ghost in the season 2 finale. But, can the Chief come back to life when the rocks assemble?
November 10th, 2012 12:38 PM
Hooray! Haven renewed for Season 4! What we learned in this episode. Audrey/Nathan: I knew it all along that she loved him, had ALWAYS loved him and WILL ALWAYS love him, seeing Duke's face as he realized what he already knew was touching. Seeing Jordan touch Audrey's arm showed a connection that they both share for Nathan. I agree it took Nathan dyeing for Audrey to reveal her TRUE feelings for him, you could see the agony/desperation that she felt at the possibility of not bringing him back. Audrey/Duke: We got to see Duke come to understand their relationship and to see Audrey's pain at having pushed Nathan away. The Teague Brothers: I want to ring their necks! I am getting tired of them holding back information about Audrey! Very frustrating! Tommy: I don't believe he's dead, no body. Questions: what was Tommy's trouble? Will Andrea keep pushing Nathan away or will she FINALLY tell him she loves him? When will the Teague brothers spill what they know?nand what's up with the house
Rank: Recurring Character
November 10th, 2012 7:32 AM
Oh my god, I just saw spoiler pictures and NATHAN is definitely the Colorado Kid's father. On the picture, we see them together in 1955 on a romantic date...
November 10th, 2012 6:57 AM
Tommy wanted to see the barn ...which apparently only appears to Audrey. But back when the other Audrey was there in Haven, she saw something so traumatic it took her memories. She saw it but Duke didn't. I think she saw what Tommy is looking for.
November 10th, 2012 4:15 AM
BRILLIANT episode. So many new questions, so many great scenes.
I am beginning to think that Vince and Dave will turn out to be some sort of antagonistic figures - they seemed more amused than frightened by Tommy's torture and its the second time Vince mentioned killing(the first time was in S1 finale when he confronted Nathan's real father and he was scared shitless).
Also the last Vince's line about "Everything being the way it's supposed to be" was hell of a creepy one.
Rank: Recurring Character
November 10th, 2012 2:26 AM
I was on the edge of my seat all hour wondering how she would trigger the trouble. Seeing the preview for next week, I think DUKE is the Colorado Kid's father, since he's the one stuck in 1955. It would explain their connection as friends and why Audrey trusts him so much. it would also explain why no one knows who the father is. Unless Nathan goes back in time too to rescue Duke and he's the one sleeping with Sarah. Maybe she had a feeling he was the father, that's why she said she ALWAYS loved him. So much questions to answer and I like that we get tidbits of information every week. Like the reviewer said it's great that we get another season of Haven. That news made my day.
Rank: Guest Star
November 10th, 2012 2:11 AM
I agree this wasn't quite as good as part one, but it did move the story along quite well. I don't believe Tommy is dead. After all, whenever the police fail to recover a body on TV that almost always means the bad guy got away. I loved that Audrey declared herself; now she just needs to tell a conscious Nathan. Duke is such a good guy to accept what happened, although deep inside he probably always knew. I doubt the Teagues will 'fess up everything to Audrey. Otherwise why wouldn't Vance have told her what was so significant on the island? The barn? I think Nathan might be the Colorado Kid's father.
Did anyone else think Tommy got offended when Duke called the Colorado Kid a drifter?
Gosh, poor Moira and Noelle. I did foresee that Noelle had saved Moira and thus not their father. If Moira hadn't been so blind, she might have seen that too. I think Noelle should have told her, however. However, that is seriously wonderful Trouble to have.