Stefan is a hypocrite. And so is Caroline. They should really think about themselves before judging others. Stefan doesn't care about anybody but himself. He is to do whatever it takes to find this ridiculous cure to turn Elena back to human, eventhough this puts her back in Klaus' way. The fact is that eventhough she chose Stefan, she loved Damon before she became a vampire. I think that after the turn she lost her guilt about that, so she changed her choice. Stefan is willing to sacrifice Jeremy and he just keeps justifying his actions but he is just rationalizing. And Caroline is just full of BS! She is calling Damon evil and repulsive when she likes Klaus, the ultimate bad guy? Give me a break...
Rose
November 30th, 2012 2:28 PM
The Vampire Diaries just can't let this triangle die, can it?
No!! The writers are too scared to make Elena choose once and for all! They think if she did chose they would lose the other couples shippers as viewers!
And this thinking is ruining the show!!!!!!!!!
They just need to find the guy she doesn't choose a very good love interest and fans will be all over the new ship in no time!
Grow some balls writers!!!
Thank God, Klaus and the originals are on this show, it's my only reason for watching!
Amanda
November 30th, 2012 2:22 PM
Just a little intel on the sire bond thing. When you're "sired" you do what you believe is best for the person you're sired to. So even if Damon didn't "tell" Elena to do things, those were still his thoughts and intentions on situations. She has been going in and out of the sire bond since the beginning of her transformation into the vampire. Also, does anyone not remember that you need Elena's blood to form a hybrid who are all sired? So why is it so far fetched that she is sired to someone? Damon even said that it happens but it's rare, so obviously Elena has something to do with that. You guys have to look at it in a logical perspective not emotional because you're mad the Ian Somerhalder sex scene was cut into by a story line that did MAKE SENSE while Elena was hooking up with Damon like 2 days after her and Stefan broke up. Not in her character. Also, the fact is that Elena doesn't and never wanted to be a vampire and Stefan knows that so is doing everything to try and make it ri
Erica
November 30th, 2012 2:07 PM
Elana had to be sired to Damon from the get go. She couldnt keep blood down from day one. He didnt turn her and had no intentions of turning her, so how is he the bad guy? And he was trying to help her by feeding her his blood when she could keep nothing down. If she was sired wouldnt that have worked, because he told her it should? Also, he told her to stay in Ricks apartment, not to go help jeremy, but she fought him. THEN he told her to kill Connor. Her being sired makes no since to me.
Sharon
November 30th, 2012 2:04 PM
If she is "sired" I don't think even Damon is aware of it and would be very unhappy if he thought that was why she came to him. Elena has been attracted to Damon for some time and becoming a vampire has heightened all of her emotions, I think it just took a natural course. Like all couples, especially in TV land, it will be a "bumpy road" with many turns ahead. I too like the idea of Klaus and Caroline, it's obvious he really does care about her, or he would have killed her several times already. It's the socialite and the bad boy story brought into the supernatural world.
christa
November 30th, 2012 2:03 PM
This whole sire crap is ridicules. The way Caroline explains it also makes no sense. She said Elena couldn't drink from animals because Damon said she couldn't But she was getting sick from animals before Damon said anything about it. Same with drinking from a Vampire and from a blood bag. She got sick off it and that's how Damon found out she could only drink from the vein. He didn't tell her she wouldn't be able to drink from animals or anything before Elena tried. So Caroline is full of crap. I am all for Damon and Elena being together. She had these strong feelings for him before she turned. She said he consumed her. They are good together.
Dawn
November 30th, 2012 1:36 PM
If Jeremy is looking for vampires to kill I can only pray he will start with Stefan and Caroline. That whiny shrieking interupting of THE delena scene so long waiting for had me wanting to crash thru my tv set and stake them myself. What were the writers thinking and why were delena shippers to be punished like that, it couldn't have been two separate scenes - if they had to introduce that BS at all? That whole sire thing is just such crap I can't even comment i'ts just a bad joke. They must be running out of ways to keeps delena apart that's all I can say on it.
lea
November 30th, 2012 1:34 PM
i agree with everyone.....this is a cheap shot at everything.....after awhile this jumping between brothers gets old......im hoping that they are going somewhere with this....( and not back to stefan) inthe real wrld ppl get tired of ppl who have this on again off again relationship its a drag. a lot of ppl seem upset with what the writers are doing andi dont blame them. if elena and damon stay together there is more storyline twists and plots to draw out......it wouldnt be a done show. but i can
guarentee the more they keep writing the story like this the more ppl will start watching something else Thursday nights
Lauren
November 30th, 2012 1:30 PM
I am really glad that so many people agree with the stupidity of this episode. I really hope the writers get feedback from their viewers and rethink what they are doing. The only reason people get so into these shows or books is because the characters are believable. We feel for them and as an escape from reality, this becomes real in its own little fictional world. With that said, if I had known Elena personally, I would without a doubt believe that she has loved both brothers.. but that this thing that she feels for Damon has been haunting her for a very long time. She said in the end of last season that Damon consumes her.. before she was a vampire. She has had something building for season after season with him. I have waited a very long time for her to choose Damon. Regardless of who she will ultimately choose, I wanted her to choose Damon and mean it.. I expected that from her character based on the story that they have been telling for 3 seasons. This somehow cheapens the develo
MrsMorgan Rank: Guest Star
November 30th, 2012 1:17 PM
Also, just going to add that I hope they break this stupid sire bond and Elena still goes for Damon, just because it would make Caroline and Stefan look really stupid.
MrsMorgan Rank: Guest Star
November 30th, 2012 1:15 PM
oops.
werewolf who came to town a couple of episodes ago than every other major character on the show since day 1, there's a problem.
MrsMorgan Rank: Guest Star
November 30th, 2012 1:14 PM
This was the most ridiculous episode ever. This may have actually done it for my relationship with TVD... I honestly don't think I can watch this show anymore after it has somehow managed to ruin the one thing I have been looking forward to for the majority of the show. A sire bond is ridiculous and stupid, and such a cop out. Is it that far-fetched that Elena would pick Damon? It's ok, TVD, you don't need some supernatural explanation for this. She WAS making out with him as a human, too. There are actual feelings there.... Having her connect to him more as a vampire made sense, there was no need for this stupidity. It set her up to make the ultimate choice eventually: Vampire and Damon, or human and Stefan?
And honestly? Caroline is going to judge Elena for having feelings for Damon, when she's getting all chummy with KLAUS? This was pretty much the worst episode of TVD for me, and that's saying a lot. When you're more interested in the random werewolf who came to town a couple o
georgina
November 30th, 2012 1:06 PM
I was thinking over and over and OVER again about this whole sire thing.. And it didn't make any sense! But then it hit me! Damon persuaded Elena to drink his blood while she was a vampire 'cause she had to drink from the vain!!! Damon must have known that if she drank from him, she would kinda be sired to him!! It must be it! She drank Damon's blood when she was a vampire!!!
Samthwoo Rank: Guest Star
November 30th, 2012 1:01 PM
Pure craptasticness from plec. I'm so SICK delena/stelena. I did not care abt them at all this ep. Nada. Hell jeremy is WAY more interesting than them. Gah I had the thought of not watching this season anymore because of that contrived, nonsenseical, sire CRAP!!! AND CAN THEY PLEASE KILL APRIL!!! Jeremy is actually cool and interesting finally. Prof shane is so daggone evil. And hayley actually working with him . Poor bonnie gonna get burned again.
Qirat Hashmi
November 30th, 2012 1:00 PM
OMG...!!seriously,i wasn't expect any vampire siring thing at all. This episode made me speechless.How could writters do that!! Only thing that fascinated me was Klaroline.If they want stelena as end game;fine but,they shouldn't have portrayed damon as some freaking bad guy!
Traci
November 30th, 2012 12:56 PM
I thought this whole development with the sire bond was lame and a cheap shot by the writers. The books may have had that, but the circumstances and the character of Damon are quite different. She was sired to have a connection with him? Really? If you have been watching the last 3 seasons, there has been a spark since the begining. There has always been an attraction. Damon has stood by her while she pined over losing Stephan to Klaus, called Stephan about Jeremy in the previous episode, told her Stephan was trying to help her, and has not tried to change her or shun her like her friends and Stephan.He typically takes the higher road. No wonder she wants to be with him. Not too hard to see why. The writer keep trying to convince us, via the other characters, that Elena is a different person, but she does not seem different to me, just has a different diet! Weak writing.
Love TVD
November 30th, 2012 12:54 PM
Another fantastic episode!! Love what Julie Plec and team are doing. Why are all of you still watching???? Exactly! Because it is a great show, and is unpredictable and very entertaining! Stephan will always be the Epic True Love for Elena and Damon will always be the darker attractive struggle. Where would the show go if Damon and Elena ran off into the sunset? Nowhere, it can't happen.
HellyJelly Rank: Guest Star
November 30th, 2012 12:51 PM
If this ridiculous Elena sire-bond nonsense continues, I am going to stop watching TVD!!! Haven't Delena fans waited long enough? Do we have to endure another excruciating season of Stefan-Elena-Damon triangle?! Besides this new development totally doesn't make any sense. I mean - hello- remebmer that Damon who professed his love to Elena and then compelled her to forget because he (in his opinion) didn't deserve her??? Like that Damon would EVER use sire bond to make Elena love him. He wants to be truly loved back and doesn't need to sire-bond Elena in order to hook up with her. He's already had enough self-confirmation in that department with MANY much hotter and cooler women...
VD
November 30th, 2012 12:49 PM
I agree with everyone, this was a cop out...the whole sire thing between elena and damon doesn't really make sense. I can understand that she may be connected to dameon that way; but to me her feelings for him are real and genuine...so I'm confused as to why they said she's with damon because she's sired
Nikki
November 30th, 2012 12:44 PM
I am very torn about the episode- I love that they have chosen to incorporate more elements from the book series but at the same time, I wish Damon and Elena had their shot free of the sire plot.
I think most of the characters have been awful people all season, Elena has been selfish, Stefan hasn't accepted her changing and growing, Caroline for so many reasons... I haven't disliked Damon all that much which is a surprise because he is generally morally repugnant.
Loved the chemistry between Ian and Nina and looking forward to seeing where it goes! I may be on team Stefan but I am riveted by all characters involved. I don't always love Julie Plec's choice but she never bores me!
Madi
November 30th, 2012 12:41 PM
God, I really hope this sire-bond thing doesn't affect delena. and i have to say, i was very disappointed in this extension of the triangle. why can't delena fans just be truly happy for once?!
scarlitharlot Rank: Extra
November 30th, 2012 12:38 PM
I think we'll soon see the sire bond means nothing - much like it did with Klaus and Tyler - it can be broken and once it is, she won't suddenly decide to be with Stefan - she didn't decide right after turning to be with him, so why would she then? The whole season also started around Damon seeing her first - she had all those memories come flooding back of Damon when she was compelled to forget. They're bond is so strong and maybe that's why she got sired to him? I haven't read the series, but I'm hoping that she doesn't end up back with Stefan. It's not "Epic," as Caroline put it - it's romantic and whimsy - what she has with Damon is passionate and fiery, that's where its at.
BeBe
November 30th, 2012 12:36 PM
@PixieLavender I agree. The more I thought about this disastrous ending, I thought how selfish could Stefan and Caroline be in this? It doesn't matter if you are Team Delena or Team Stefan. Elena doesn't deserve to be a human blood bag on reserve for Klaus to make hybrids. What kind of life is that for Elena? Caroline is certainly no friend of Elena's if she wants her friend to be a human blood bag just so Stefan can resume a relationship with her. Didn't everyone fight in previous seasons so Elena wouldn't be drained by Klaus and live her life as a blood bank for him? Is that what Stefan wants for his "epic love." Yikes! Who wants that? I no longer like Caroline.
Elena is empowered and for once, she can take care of herself. She is no longer the damsel in distress.
Damon: She's strong and crafty and you'll die. Elena: At least I'll die trying.
Rank: Guest Star
November 30th, 2012 2:49 PM
Pfew.
I really don't know how I should feel right now.
November 30th, 2012 2:43 PM
I can't agree more with you Rose!!!You cover me up...
Rank: Extra
November 30th, 2012 2:37 PM
Stefan is a hypocrite. And so is Caroline. They should really think about themselves before judging others. Stefan doesn't care about anybody but himself. He is to do whatever it takes to find this ridiculous cure to turn Elena back to human, eventhough this puts her back in Klaus' way. The fact is that eventhough she chose Stefan, she loved Damon before she became a vampire. I think that after the turn she lost her guilt about that, so she changed her choice. Stefan is willing to sacrifice Jeremy and he just keeps justifying his actions but he is just rationalizing. And Caroline is just full of BS! She is calling Damon evil and repulsive when she likes Klaus, the ultimate bad guy? Give me a break...
November 30th, 2012 2:28 PM
The Vampire Diaries just can't let this triangle die, can it?
No!! The writers are too scared to make Elena choose once and for all! They think if she did chose they would lose the other couples shippers as viewers!
And this thinking is ruining the show!!!!!!!!!
They just need to find the guy she doesn't choose a very good love interest and fans will be all over the new ship in no time!
Grow some balls writers!!!
Thank God, Klaus and the originals are on this show, it's my only reason for watching!
November 30th, 2012 2:22 PM
Just a little intel on the sire bond thing. When you're "sired" you do what you believe is best for the person you're sired to. So even if Damon didn't "tell" Elena to do things, those were still his thoughts and intentions on situations. She has been going in and out of the sire bond since the beginning of her transformation into the vampire. Also, does anyone not remember that you need Elena's blood to form a hybrid who are all sired? So why is it so far fetched that she is sired to someone? Damon even said that it happens but it's rare, so obviously Elena has something to do with that. You guys have to look at it in a logical perspective not emotional because you're mad the Ian Somerhalder sex scene was cut into by a story line that did MAKE SENSE while Elena was hooking up with Damon like 2 days after her and Stefan broke up. Not in her character. Also, the fact is that Elena doesn't and never wanted to be a vampire and Stefan knows that so is doing everything to try and make it ri
November 30th, 2012 2:07 PM
Elana had to be sired to Damon from the get go. She couldnt keep blood down from day one. He didnt turn her and had no intentions of turning her, so how is he the bad guy? And he was trying to help her by feeding her his blood when she could keep nothing down. If she was sired wouldnt that have worked, because he told her it should? Also, he told her to stay in Ricks apartment, not to go help jeremy, but she fought him. THEN he told her to kill Connor. Her being sired makes no since to me.
November 30th, 2012 2:04 PM
If she is "sired" I don't think even Damon is aware of it and would be very unhappy if he thought that was why she came to him. Elena has been attracted to Damon for some time and becoming a vampire has heightened all of her emotions, I think it just took a natural course. Like all couples, especially in TV land, it will be a "bumpy road" with many turns ahead. I too like the idea of Klaus and Caroline, it's obvious he really does care about her, or he would have killed her several times already. It's the socialite and the bad boy story brought into the supernatural world.
November 30th, 2012 2:03 PM
This whole sire crap is ridicules. The way Caroline explains it also makes no sense. She said Elena couldn't drink from animals because Damon said she couldn't But she was getting sick from animals before Damon said anything about it. Same with drinking from a Vampire and from a blood bag. She got sick off it and that's how Damon found out she could only drink from the vein. He didn't tell her she wouldn't be able to drink from animals or anything before Elena tried. So Caroline is full of crap. I am all for Damon and Elena being together. She had these strong feelings for him before she turned. She said he consumed her. They are good together.
November 30th, 2012 1:36 PM
If Jeremy is looking for vampires to kill I can only pray he will start with Stefan and Caroline. That whiny shrieking interupting of THE delena scene so long waiting for had me wanting to crash thru my tv set and stake them myself. What were the writers thinking and why were delena shippers to be punished like that, it couldn't have been two separate scenes - if they had to introduce that BS at all? That whole sire thing is just such crap I can't even comment i'ts just a bad joke. They must be running out of ways to keeps delena apart that's all I can say on it.
November 30th, 2012 1:34 PM
i agree with everyone.....this is a cheap shot at everything.....after awhile this jumping between brothers gets old......im hoping that they are going somewhere with this....( and not back to stefan) inthe real wrld ppl get tired of ppl who have this on again off again relationship its a drag. a lot of ppl seem upset with what the writers are doing andi dont blame them. if elena and damon stay together there is more storyline twists and plots to draw out......it wouldnt be a done show. but i can
guarentee the more they keep writing the story like this the more ppl will start watching something else Thursday nights
November 30th, 2012 1:30 PM
I am really glad that so many people agree with the stupidity of this episode. I really hope the writers get feedback from their viewers and rethink what they are doing. The only reason people get so into these shows or books is because the characters are believable. We feel for them and as an escape from reality, this becomes real in its own little fictional world. With that said, if I had known Elena personally, I would without a doubt believe that she has loved both brothers.. but that this thing that she feels for Damon has been haunting her for a very long time. She said in the end of last season that Damon consumes her.. before she was a vampire. She has had something building for season after season with him. I have waited a very long time for her to choose Damon. Regardless of who she will ultimately choose, I wanted her to choose Damon and mean it.. I expected that from her character based on the story that they have been telling for 3 seasons. This somehow cheapens the develo
Rank: Guest Star
November 30th, 2012 1:17 PM
Also, just going to add that I hope they break this stupid sire bond and Elena still goes for Damon, just because it would make Caroline and Stefan look really stupid.
Rank: Guest Star
November 30th, 2012 1:15 PM
oops.
werewolf who came to town a couple of episodes ago than every other major character on the show since day 1, there's a problem.
Rank: Guest Star
November 30th, 2012 1:14 PM
This was the most ridiculous episode ever. This may have actually done it for my relationship with TVD... I honestly don't think I can watch this show anymore after it has somehow managed to ruin the one thing I have been looking forward to for the majority of the show. A sire bond is ridiculous and stupid, and such a cop out. Is it that far-fetched that Elena would pick Damon? It's ok, TVD, you don't need some supernatural explanation for this. She WAS making out with him as a human, too. There are actual feelings there.... Having her connect to him more as a vampire made sense, there was no need for this stupidity. It set her up to make the ultimate choice eventually: Vampire and Damon, or human and Stefan?
And honestly? Caroline is going to judge Elena for having feelings for Damon, when she's getting all chummy with KLAUS? This was pretty much the worst episode of TVD for me, and that's saying a lot. When you're more interested in the random werewolf who came to town a couple o
November 30th, 2012 1:06 PM
I was thinking over and over and OVER again about this whole sire thing.. And it didn't make any sense! But then it hit me! Damon persuaded Elena to drink his blood while she was a vampire 'cause she had to drink from the vain!!! Damon must have known that if she drank from him, she would kinda be sired to him!! It must be it! She drank Damon's blood when she was a vampire!!!
Rank: Guest Star
November 30th, 2012 1:01 PM
Pure craptasticness from plec. I'm so SICK delena/stelena. I did not care abt them at all this ep. Nada. Hell jeremy is WAY more interesting than them. Gah I had the thought of not watching this season anymore because of that contrived, nonsenseical, sire CRAP!!! AND CAN THEY PLEASE KILL APRIL!!! Jeremy is actually cool and interesting finally. Prof shane is so daggone evil. And hayley actually working with him . Poor bonnie gonna get burned again.
November 30th, 2012 1:00 PM
OMG...!!seriously,i wasn't expect any vampire siring thing at all. This episode made me speechless.How could writters do that!! Only thing that fascinated me was Klaroline.If they want stelena as end game;fine but,they shouldn't have portrayed damon as some freaking bad guy!
November 30th, 2012 12:56 PM
I thought this whole development with the sire bond was lame and a cheap shot by the writers. The books may have had that, but the circumstances and the character of Damon are quite different. She was sired to have a connection with him? Really? If you have been watching the last 3 seasons, there has been a spark since the begining. There has always been an attraction. Damon has stood by her while she pined over losing Stephan to Klaus, called Stephan about Jeremy in the previous episode, told her Stephan was trying to help her, and has not tried to change her or shun her like her friends and Stephan.He typically takes the higher road. No wonder she wants to be with him. Not too hard to see why. The writer keep trying to convince us, via the other characters, that Elena is a different person, but she does not seem different to me, just has a different diet! Weak writing.
November 30th, 2012 12:54 PM
Another fantastic episode!! Love what Julie Plec and team are doing. Why are all of you still watching???? Exactly! Because it is a great show, and is unpredictable and very entertaining! Stephan will always be the Epic True Love for Elena and Damon will always be the darker attractive struggle. Where would the show go if Damon and Elena ran off into the sunset? Nowhere, it can't happen.
Rank: Guest Star
November 30th, 2012 12:51 PM
If this ridiculous Elena sire-bond nonsense continues, I am going to stop watching TVD!!! Haven't Delena fans waited long enough? Do we have to endure another excruciating season of Stefan-Elena-Damon triangle?! Besides this new development totally doesn't make any sense. I mean - hello- remebmer that Damon who professed his love to Elena and then compelled her to forget because he (in his opinion) didn't deserve her??? Like that Damon would EVER use sire bond to make Elena love him. He wants to be truly loved back and doesn't need to sire-bond Elena in order to hook up with her. He's already had enough self-confirmation in that department with MANY much hotter and cooler women...
November 30th, 2012 12:49 PM
I agree with everyone, this was a cop out...the whole sire thing between elena and damon doesn't really make sense. I can understand that she may be connected to dameon that way; but to me her feelings for him are real and genuine...so I'm confused as to why they said she's with damon because she's sired
November 30th, 2012 12:44 PM
I am very torn about the episode- I love that they have chosen to incorporate more elements from the book series but at the same time, I wish Damon and Elena had their shot free of the sire plot.
I think most of the characters have been awful people all season, Elena has been selfish, Stefan hasn't accepted her changing and growing, Caroline for so many reasons... I haven't disliked Damon all that much which is a surprise because he is generally morally repugnant.
Loved the chemistry between Ian and Nina and looking forward to seeing where it goes! I may be on team Stefan but I am riveted by all characters involved. I don't always love Julie Plec's choice but she never bores me!
November 30th, 2012 12:41 PM
God, I really hope this sire-bond thing doesn't affect delena. and i have to say, i was very disappointed in this extension of the triangle. why can't delena fans just be truly happy for once?!
Rank: Extra
November 30th, 2012 12:38 PM
I think we'll soon see the sire bond means nothing - much like it did with Klaus and Tyler - it can be broken and once it is, she won't suddenly decide to be with Stefan - she didn't decide right after turning to be with him, so why would she then? The whole season also started around Damon seeing her first - she had all those memories come flooding back of Damon when she was compelled to forget. They're bond is so strong and maybe that's why she got sired to him? I haven't read the series, but I'm hoping that she doesn't end up back with Stefan. It's not "Epic," as Caroline put it - it's romantic and whimsy - what she has with Damon is passionate and fiery, that's where its at.
November 30th, 2012 12:36 PM
@PixieLavender I agree. The more I thought about this disastrous ending, I thought how selfish could Stefan and Caroline be in this? It doesn't matter if you are Team Delena or Team Stefan. Elena doesn't deserve to be a human blood bag on reserve for Klaus to make hybrids. What kind of life is that for Elena? Caroline is certainly no friend of Elena's if she wants her friend to be a human blood bag just so Stefan can resume a relationship with her. Didn't everyone fight in previous seasons so Elena wouldn't be drained by Klaus and live her life as a blood bank for him? Is that what Stefan wants for his "epic love." Yikes! Who wants that? I no longer like Caroline.
Elena is empowered and for once, she can take care of herself. She is no longer the damsel in distress.