I tried watching this show a few times but I just can't wrap my head around this actor as "Green Arrow" after Justin Hartley's portrayal in "Smallville".Too soon to cast someone else in the title role.
JSallette Rank: Guest Star
February 14th, 2013 2:29 PM
This was too much Island for my liking. It seems that the writers are determined to turn this into another show with so much lengthy island flashback. They are really risking losing a loyal audience with these moves.
Positives: I am glad to see Felicity become a member of the team. This and Diggles holding firmly to his principles that the Moira might be in deeper than Oliver expects.
Hopefully the writers will wake up and develop intense storylines instead of these extended island scenes. Our patience is wearing thin.
Danna
February 14th, 2013 2:15 PM
I dont't get the island love, I understand it is necessary so we can learn what happened to Oli but I can't wait to finally move on from that. I like the interaction between the Present characters and I didn't get much of that this episode, nonetheless it was a great ep.
Argonath
February 14th, 2013 2:09 PM
We still have ALOT to go through on the island. First, Oliver is around them long enough to learn Mandarin. Second, we have YET to be introduced to the Russian mafia aspect. My guess is that whatever Fires and the mercs are doing on that island, draws the attention of some Ruskie criminals as well, and there is a battle between them and Fires crew.
Lastly... since Oliver saves the life of a high ranking Russian mobster, then why would they not take him off the island when they depart? Probably they were in a getaway, and Oliver, like tonights show with Slade, missed the departure ride to focus on something else.
And THAT must take some time as well... for Oliver to get Tatted, trained, and learn Russian.
Back story has a LONG way to go too... as does the list and intrigue of the present day one.
BonesForever Rank: Extra
February 14th, 2013 1:50 PM
This was a really good backstory episode. Not having been a Green Arrow comic book fan, it's really helpful to see more of his time on the island. I liked the way Felicity got more involved and yet was able to hold back from embracing it all--yet. Seems like she's destined to be more involved than she plans to now, but her story is unfolding in a cool way. The more I see of this, the more intrigued I am. Liked Moira even less when she followed up Arrow's mercy with shooting him--almost fatally, no less. That woman is more "morally challenged" than I even thought she was!
PWallace Rank: Guest Star
February 14th, 2013 1:46 PM
awesome episode!!!! best so far.....show definitely getting better and better
I loved that they mixed it up this week and we got to see almost a whole epiosde of flashbacks. I like Slade Wilson!
We all knew Ollie would survive! I am glad to see that so far my suspicion that Felicity is bad has so far been proven wrong. I really like her.
For Oliver to be the great fighter etc that he is now, he sure came a long way in 4 1/2 years as they flashback showed that he has been on the island for 6 months but was still (for lack of a better word) meek.
arrowfan333
February 14th, 2013 10:52 AM
Incredible episode!
I'm glad Slade Wilson is an ally to Oliver (for now) and definitely didn't see that coming. The fact that they have a deep history together should make it all the more interesting when Deathstroke appears in the current timeline.
Great info on Shado I was not aware of the tie-in (and other reviewers are apparently unaware) good on you.
I was on the edge of my seat the entire episode. i enjoy the flashbacks thoroughly (mostly b/c Deathstroke is one of my DC favs) so having an almost entire episode about the island was like a dream come true... and it didn't disappoint.
SoapJunk Rank: Recurring Character
February 14th, 2013 10:21 AM
I like it when oliver&Felicity join screen time so i am glad she found out, though i thin kshe suspected something, Oliver really has to work on his coverstorys
For the island scenes
I don't think it is told from Olivers point of view, i think we are learning what happened there and especially what happened to Oliver, how did he become the man he is today, how did he become Arrow. And without those scenes we would never understand what happened. I wonder if he ever got off the island before the boat saved him. Because the phonecall was so intense! i don't even know who to call if i got stranded on a island
I like that there was more island than Starling city in this episode, Arrow is still thrillingly awesome! I want more
fortyseven Rank: Regular Character
February 14th, 2013 5:06 AM
I don't like flashbacks. I like the flashbacks when they are absent or few in number and directly related to the present but I did like learning a full story this episode. The flashback did drag in places. Now that Felicity will have a bigger role, I hope there's not as many "Felicity magically solves X in 2 seconds" moments. I hope Felicity doesn't pine over Oliver for years. The 2 characters, Oliver has the most chemistry with are Felicity and Diggle. Felicity walking in on Oliver training should be amusing.
Ilk_vomit Rank: Regular Character
February 14th, 2013 1:59 AM
Wintergreen needs an actor, not just a
stuntman.
GeneralRapunzel Rank: Guest Star
February 14th, 2013 1:29 AM
How evil is Moira? Merlyn Sr had her first husband killed, tortured her son to satisfy himself Oliver knew nothing (luckily for us, Ollie's a good liar), threatened her family to ensure her co-operation, and kidnapped Walter for good measure. She may be working with the bad guys, but does she really want to? Of course she has secrets she's hiding, but given Arrow's reputation, I can genuinely believe she was scared for her life.
I really like Felicity. I hope she's around more. I like how she made the distinction about "collateral damage". With her perspective can she really hang around Ollie for long once/if they rescue Walter? Oliver's life is exciting, but I don't think she entirely approves, not that she'd ever turn him in.
help
February 14th, 2013 12:50 AM
can you someone please just catch me up on what we know so far on the island
marissa Rank: Regular Character
February 13th, 2013 11:54 PM
Great episode I loved how felicity finally found out about Oliver and especially love how she agreed to help them even if its only for a little while. I was so glad to see a lot more of the island it's one of my favorite things to see and more than half the episode being on the island was great. Can't wait till the next episode.
kate
February 13th, 2013 11:28 PM
I am more excited about the Island than I have been before especially when learning more about everyone...I am guessing Slade trains Oliver in the hand to hand they manage to rescue the girl and she teaches him archery..gets pregnant maybe falls for Slade they betray Oliver and Xao Fai and somehow get off the island and then Xao Fai focuses Oliver's skills. I kept wanting to snicker with Felicity's demands...she is going to put together what the undertaking is in like a half of an episode and be unable to let it go (and I think she and Helena might get along). It is funny you still feel so bad for Oliver...it seems like he will be screwed on the island and we know he is being betrayed now (heck, another reason for the Huntress to reappear she might be able to get to the bottom of things without the emotional baggage that Oliver has)
MTOcean890
February 13th, 2013 10:56 PM
In the comics, William Wintergreen was Slades butler so Im glad to see him go as he was really just another reference to the comics but I would like to see Slade become Deathstroke for real.
Felicity: It feels really good having you inside me. And by you I mean your voice. And by inside me I mean my ear. I'm going to stop talking right now. Olive...
February 14th, 2013 5:45 PM
I tried watching this show a few times but I just can't wrap my head around this actor as "Green Arrow" after Justin Hartley's portrayal in "Smallville".Too soon to cast someone else in the title role.
Rank: Guest Star
February 14th, 2013 2:29 PM
This was too much Island for my liking. It seems that the writers are determined to turn this into another show with so much lengthy island flashback. They are really risking losing a loyal audience with these moves.
Positives: I am glad to see Felicity become a member of the team. This and Diggles holding firmly to his principles that the Moira might be in deeper than Oliver expects.
Hopefully the writers will wake up and develop intense storylines instead of these extended island scenes. Our patience is wearing thin.
February 14th, 2013 2:15 PM
I dont't get the island love, I understand it is necessary so we can learn what happened to Oli but I can't wait to finally move on from that. I like the interaction between the Present characters and I didn't get much of that this episode, nonetheless it was a great ep.
February 14th, 2013 2:09 PM
We still have ALOT to go through on the island. First, Oliver is around them long enough to learn Mandarin. Second, we have YET to be introduced to the Russian mafia aspect. My guess is that whatever Fires and the mercs are doing on that island, draws the attention of some Ruskie criminals as well, and there is a battle between them and Fires crew.
Lastly... since Oliver saves the life of a high ranking Russian mobster, then why would they not take him off the island when they depart? Probably they were in a getaway, and Oliver, like tonights show with Slade, missed the departure ride to focus on something else.
And THAT must take some time as well... for Oliver to get Tatted, trained, and learn Russian.
Back story has a LONG way to go too... as does the list and intrigue of the present day one.
Rank: Extra
February 14th, 2013 1:50 PM
This was a really good backstory episode. Not having been a Green Arrow comic book fan, it's really helpful to see more of his time on the island. I liked the way Felicity got more involved and yet was able to hold back from embracing it all--yet. Seems like she's destined to be more involved than she plans to now, but her story is unfolding in a cool way. The more I see of this, the more intrigued I am. Liked Moira even less when she followed up Arrow's mercy with shooting him--almost fatally, no less. That woman is more "morally challenged" than I even thought she was!
Rank: Guest Star
February 14th, 2013 1:46 PM
awesome episode!!!! best so far.....show definitely getting better and better
Rank: Regular Character
February 14th, 2013 11:45 AM
I loved that they mixed it up this week and we got to see almost a whole epiosde of flashbacks. I like Slade Wilson!
We all knew Ollie would survive! I am glad to see that so far my suspicion that Felicity is bad has so far been proven wrong. I really like her.
For Oliver to be the great fighter etc that he is now, he sure came a long way in 4 1/2 years as they flashback showed that he has been on the island for 6 months but was still (for lack of a better word) meek.
February 14th, 2013 10:52 AM
Incredible episode!
I'm glad Slade Wilson is an ally to Oliver (for now) and definitely didn't see that coming. The fact that they have a deep history together should make it all the more interesting when Deathstroke appears in the current timeline.
Great info on Shado I was not aware of the tie-in (and other reviewers are apparently unaware) good on you.
I was on the edge of my seat the entire episode. i enjoy the flashbacks thoroughly (mostly b/c Deathstroke is one of my DC favs) so having an almost entire episode about the island was like a dream come true... and it didn't disappoint.
Rank: Recurring Character
February 14th, 2013 10:21 AM
I like it when oliver&Felicity join screen time so i am glad she found out, though i thin kshe suspected something, Oliver really has to work on his coverstorys
For the island scenes
I don't think it is told from Olivers point of view, i think we are learning what happened there and especially what happened to Oliver, how did he become the man he is today, how did he become Arrow. And without those scenes we would never understand what happened. I wonder if he ever got off the island before the boat saved him. Because the phonecall was so intense! i don't even know who to call if i got stranded on a island
I like that there was more island than Starling city in this episode, Arrow is still thrillingly awesome! I want more
Rank: Regular Character
February 14th, 2013 5:06 AM
I don't like flashbacks. I like the flashbacks when they are absent or few in number and directly related to the present but I did like learning a full story this episode. The flashback did drag in places. Now that Felicity will have a bigger role, I hope there's not as many "Felicity magically solves X in 2 seconds" moments. I hope Felicity doesn't pine over Oliver for years. The 2 characters, Oliver has the most chemistry with are Felicity and Diggle. Felicity walking in on Oliver training should be amusing.
Rank: Regular Character
February 14th, 2013 1:59 AM
Wintergreen needs an actor, not just a
stuntman.
Rank: Guest Star
February 14th, 2013 1:29 AM
How evil is Moira? Merlyn Sr had her first husband killed, tortured her son to satisfy himself Oliver knew nothing (luckily for us, Ollie's a good liar), threatened her family to ensure her co-operation, and kidnapped Walter for good measure. She may be working with the bad guys, but does she really want to? Of course she has secrets she's hiding, but given Arrow's reputation, I can genuinely believe she was scared for her life.
I really like Felicity. I hope she's around more. I like how she made the distinction about "collateral damage". With her perspective can she really hang around Ollie for long once/if they rescue Walter? Oliver's life is exciting, but I don't think she entirely approves, not that she'd ever turn him in.
February 14th, 2013 12:50 AM
can you someone please just catch me up on what we know so far on the island
Rank: Regular Character
February 13th, 2013 11:54 PM
Great episode I loved how felicity finally found out about Oliver and especially love how she agreed to help them even if its only for a little while. I was so glad to see a lot more of the island it's one of my favorite things to see and more than half the episode being on the island was great. Can't wait till the next episode.
February 13th, 2013 11:28 PM
I am more excited about the Island than I have been before especially when learning more about everyone...I am guessing Slade trains Oliver in the hand to hand they manage to rescue the girl and she teaches him archery..gets pregnant maybe falls for Slade they betray Oliver and Xao Fai and somehow get off the island and then Xao Fai focuses Oliver's skills. I kept wanting to snicker with Felicity's demands...she is going to put together what the undertaking is in like a half of an episode and be unable to let it go (and I think she and Helena might get along). It is funny you still feel so bad for Oliver...it seems like he will be screwed on the island and we know he is being betrayed now (heck, another reason for the Huntress to reappear she might be able to get to the bottom of things without the emotional baggage that Oliver has)
February 13th, 2013 10:56 PM
In the comics, William Wintergreen was Slades butler so Im glad to see him go as he was really just another reference to the comics but I would like to see Slade become Deathstroke for real.