Arrow

Wednesdays 8:00 PM on The CW
Arrow
TV Fanatic Works Better with Prime Instant Video
40,000 other titles are available to watch now.

Arrow Round Table: "Seeing Red"

by at .  Updated at . Comments

Welcome to the Round Table for Arrow Season 2 Episode 20, the installment where we said goodbye to Moira Queen. Has the death sunk in for you yet?

Below, staff writers Kate Brooks, Hank Otero, Carla Day, Nick McHatton and Carissa Pavlica share their thoughts about this shocker and what it will mean for Oliver, Thea and company going forward.

Lets get started!

Arrow RT Logo

Sara left Oliver and headed out of town. Thoughts?

Kate: I felt like this was incredibly rushed. I mean, all of the sudden she's dealing with these deep issues of being a killer and nothing else? I don't know. I have a hard time really being okay with their "breakup" because of Sara's demons just now being talked about. With that said, I do understand that she feels no good for Oliver. That what Oliver needs is light and not darkness, no matter how she feels about him. I get it but it feels rushed. To answer the question directly, I hope that she is visiting an old friend and will bring in reinforcements to fight this war with Slade.

Hank: My first thought was... Again? Doesn't it always seem like Sara's running away? And at the worst possible moments too. I agree with Kate, the break up felt very rushed. One minute they're happy in bed and the next she's bad for him. I can't believe she just realized she's a killer, it's not news to the audience. Sara was trained by the League of Assassins wasn't she? I also feel she'll be back but with reinforcements.

Carla: Unlike Kate and Hank, I didn't think Sara's departure seemed rushed at all. She's always known she was a killer, but Oliver convinced her that she could change. Up until the moment with Roy, she was a recovering assassin. When she wanted to kill Roy, Oliver's friend and Thea's love, she felt she failed in her recovery and not worthy of Oliver. She was selfish in her decision, since Oliver needs her help now, but it made sense that she would run. Sara and Nyssa reunite!

Nick: I'm mixed about Sara heading out of town. I'm happy that she's potentially leaving to find herself and decide if she really wants to be a killer or not. Sara turns to killing to survive, and the situation with Slade makes her survival instincts kick in. She saw Roy as an opportunity to break the cycle with Slade and wanted to take without worrying about the consequences.

Carissa: It never felt to me like their romance was permanent. However, as fighting partners they seem to have more staying power so I won't be surprised to see her riding back in with reinforcements. They aren't going to be the kind that refrain from slaying, however, so Oliver will need to make up his mind about what he really wants. He's fighting for his life and the more people he lets off the hook, the more who can come back to haunt him.

Sweet scene between Oliver and Laurel, as we learned he also has a child lurking. More thoughts!

Kate: How Soap Opera of Arrow to bring in a child. Even if they were doing this to show how devoted Moira was to her children, there will always be the question of "when is the child going to show up." I wasn't really into this plot twist but if this child actually does come into play, this will change everything for Oliver. Like I said, very Soap Opera of Arrow.

Hank: I always love the Ollie flashbacks (and young Laurel as well). Isn't it great the way Stephen Amell raises the tone of his voice? I think it's awesome. Not into the mystery baby storyline at all, though I have no doubt the writers will make it an interesting part of Season 3.

Carla: I may have audibly sighed at the baby reveal. I had a difficult time believing that pre-island Oliver would have been so upset about the miscarriage. The last thing that Oliver wanted was responsibility. With the child presumably still in Central City, I wonder if they are setting up for an Arrow-Flash crossover next season. Not a fan of this reveal, but I have faith that the writers will do something magnificent with it.

Nick: I really don't see the purpose of the baby storyline. It goes to Oliver's characterization pre-shipwreck, but there's really no need for him to father a child. There's so many other variables going on that the baby just loses focus of the core dynamics and stories of the show. It's possible for them to really put together something good with a little Queen out there, but at this point in time I have zero interest in it.

Carissa: Well, in one DC world, Oliver Queen does have a son. He's not 6 when they meet, but his name is Connor Hawke and he eventually takes over his father's superhero duties. Should the series run 20 years, they're all set to carry it into the future. Word has it he has a good relationship with Laurel (as Canary) and is friends with Green Lantern.

Thea In Trouble
Mirakuru is bad! Love is not enough to stop Roy from throttling Thea in "Seeing Red."

How will Moira's death affect Oliver and Thea?

Kate: Oh my goodness did this break my heart or did this break my heart? I was in shock that this happened. I was actually talking about this with some friends this weekend and I asked them, "Who do you think is going to die by seasons end" and even though I was expecting a great loss, this still floored me! I think Moira's death is going to empower Thea. Moira's death was the most honorable of them all, you know sacrificing her life so that her children can live. Thea witnessed this extreme act of bravery and I hope she uses it to become as honorable as Moira was. At least this is what I hope, I cannot stand anymore pity party Thea.

Hank: I think it will affect both of them deeply. However they won't have enough time to grieve because Slade's still out there and there's only three episodes left. Moira's heroic death will allow Ollie to move past the issues he had with his mother and Thea now has a better role model. I'll admit I was incredibly surprised that the writing team killed Moira off. That said, they had also exhausted her storyline. There's only so many lies she can tell right?

Carla: They will be crushed. I think that's a given, but long term I'm not sure. With Moira gone, Oliver will have more responsibility than ever. For Thea, I can see her going in the opposite direction from what Kate and Hank suggested. Thea could easily bond with Malcolm and turn against Oliver. It would be heartbreaking, but Oliver has and continues to lie to her. In a state of grief over her mother and Roy, she's in a vulnerable position and Malcolm will take advantage of that.

Nick: As the panel echoes, it will for sure push Thea into learning more about her father, and gives Malcolm an opportunity to come out of hiding once again. The interesting twist on all of this is how Malcolm, and to a lesser extent Thea, will play his allegiance. There's a chance that since Thea's mother is killed, he'll want to make good with her and avenge Moira's death. Moira's death with for Oliver puts him at a junction. He made a vow after Tommy's death to stop killing, yet that vow ultimately ends up at the death of Moira. Oliver will need to make a choice whether he's willing to continue with his vow or, like Sara, revert to being a killer in the name of justice.

Carissa: I'll echo everyone here. Crushed. I expect Oliver to take it the hardest because of his lies. He can't get that back. Thea can move forward knowing she held nothing back from her mother. She also has an opportunity to address her paternal relationship if she so wishes. As for their sibling relationship, Thea could hold Moira's death over Oliver's head and with good reason.

When should we expect Malcolm Merlyn to come back and what's coming with him?

Kate: He will come back by seasons end and will bring a shit storm upon Slade. The instensity is building and now that Moira is dead, how can he not come back and help out The Arrow.

Hank: Merlyn will be back before the finale for sure. As Thea's biological father, he's going to step in and offer support now that Moira's gone. Part of me thinks he will join the fight against Deathstroke but the other part wonders why he would, there's nothing in it for him. Honestly, I expected to see much more of John Barrowman this season, but I'm glad his appearances have been few and far between. He's made more of an impact that way.

Carla: I like Hank's suggestion that Malcolm works with Oliver, but the only way I see that happening is if Thea's in danger. Since Slade killed Moira, I think Thea's no longer at risk. Instead, Malcolm will use Thea's grief to get close to her. He lost Tommy, but he has another chance to be a good father. Whether that means taking her under his wing to continue his nefarious ways or cleaning up his act ... that's what I can't wait to find out!

Nick: By season's end for sure. I like the idea of him switching his allegiance to Thea, and by proxy to Oliver, to help ruin Slade. It really echoes the enemy of my enemy idea, but what happens after Slade is anyone's guess.

Carissa: He was only staying away because he and Moira agreed to it. Now that Moira is gone, his return is inevitable. Thea is bound to have questions, even if he is a mass murderer. I would love for her to go off with him and learn something, turning her into a badass.

Who is the last person to die before Slade considers his saga a done deal?

Kate: As much I don't want it to happen... Sara. That is the ultimate pay-back death for Shado. Sara lived when Shado could not. As much as it'll hurt, I've been preparing myself for it. If not Sara, then Laurel. Thea is too easy to kill. I really hope it's Roy though! I've had about as much of him as I can handle of him. My main problem is that I cannot understand why Roy is getting more screen time than Felicity and why it continues to happen. Anyway, that's another topic for a later discussion. I'm betting that one of the Lance girls will die by seasons end.

Hank: I'm going with the obvious choice, Sara. We've been saying all along in our round tables that Sara has to die so that Laurel can become the Canary. I'll stick with that theory. It also brings things full circle as Shado died on the island instead of Sara. That's justice in Slade's twisted mirakuru-induced mind. I can't imagine they'd kill off Laurel, there would be a gazillion furious fanboys/girls out there you know?

Carla: Sara seems like the obvious choice, so I doubt it's her. It's probably Laurel. Slade would be punishing both Oliver and Sara by killing Laurel. He didn't kill Oliver because he wanted his former friend to suffer. He killed Moira, so it would make sense to kill someone close to Sara as her punishment too. If not Laurel, maybe Lance? My money is on Laurel as his last target. I doubt Slade will be successful in closing out his saga.

Nick: Sara is the obvious choice, and will probably end up dead; however Slade is not stopping until Oliver is completely ruined, and he's seeing that emotional pain is going to get the job done. Slade knows he doesn't need to kill Oliver because he can break him completely.

Carissa: Sara is the obvious choice, but Laurel is the viewers' choice. I really don't know what to expect at this point. They're both too predictable. Perhaps Slade was speaking in code and he didn't mean a human death. Yes, those are straws at which I'm grasping. Let me grasp and go about your day!

Carissa Pavlica is the managing editor and staff writer for TV Fanatic. Follow her on Twitter and on Google+.

Tags: ,
Fifty

Slade will go for Laural but Sara will die saving her. Just a wild guess

Avatar

I think Sara left because the writers wanted to give Oliver/Laurel screen time, and because she's going to get help. If Sara dies to make room for Laurel, I'm done with the show. A lot of people are speculating Slade will kidnap Felicity and we'll find out why in these last episodes. I'm skeptical of that scenario - think it's wishful thinking by Felicity fans.

Avatar
@ Linda+P

So you're willing to give up the show if Sara dies, because you hate Laurel. You don't care that Laurel was in a beautiful relationship with Oliver when Oliver cheated with Sara, and even Oliver apologised because he felt guilty. How could you support Sara I could never understand. As much as I like Laurel, if she dies I will still watch, because I like the show. I hate that Moira was killed, and that Tommy was also killed earlier, but it doesn't keep me from watching. You guys must really hate Laurel to want to stop watching if she lives and Sara dies. I feel really sorry for the actress. Imagine a gross wrong was done to her character, yet she gets no sympathy from you Sara fans.

Modwild
@ Stephie59

I actually cringe during the show ad hope Katie's not on Twitter. The hatred toward the character and the actress is horrible. If they just kept their comments to the writing and the character, it would be easier to take. I agree about the Oliver/Sara love. I suppose the scenes where they fall in love on the island are coming and we're just supposed to trust that it happens eventually. I haven't felt anything but lust and friendship to this point.

Modwild
@ Stephie59

I'm happy that a Laurel fan has finally hit the board. We have a severe lack of them. I met Katie before the show aired and she was so excited at the prospect of becoming Canary and a very sweet person. I feel she's been done a real disservice with her character. It's interesting, because I don't really like Sara, but that, too, I've found it because of how she's written. In the movie I just saw, she was amazing. The only female written well on Arrow is Felicity, and she sometimes wavers between strength and childlike qualities.

Avatar
@ Carissa Pavlica

Thank you Carissa. I really cannot understand the hate for Laurel (Katie) and I can imagine if Katie reads these boards how she must feel. I really hope she doesn't read them. I just can't get the love for Sara. I didn't realise she acted in that show - The Pact -- which I liked, so I have no aversion to the actress herself, or even to Sara on Arrow. My aversion is to her as a real love interest to Oliver, because in Season 1, when they showed (the other actress as Sara) on the boat, you could see that Oliver was just being a playboy and a cheater with her, and not that he was "in love" with her, so I can't understand this love all of a sudden. Even on the island we haven't seen any kind of love connection with them. We saw Oliver with Shado as his love interest. So I'm (we're) supposed to believe that now that she's back in town, the "love" has suddenly bloomed? That his love for Laurel has vanished? I don't think so. Forgive my rant, but it really disturbs me how people can be so selfish and un-empathetic that they can have no love for Laurel after all she has been through. Thanks for your initial response Carissa. Much appreciated.

Avatar
@ Linda+P

It don't think it's wishful thinking by Olicity fans. it just makes sense. The spoiler stated that Slade intends to kill another person close to Oliver, not that he succeeds. The only person more important to Oliver at this point is Thea, and Slade has now twice passed on the opportunity to harm his sister.

Avatar

Baby introduction is for slades purposes I thought, he said there's one more kill left before it ends, has to be the kid

Avatar

Q#1. For something that according to the producers was supposed to play out over 5 episodes, they never really gave us a clear indicator of just where tis relationship was going. I personally never felt the romantic connection to begin with, so watching the episodes I was watching for the obvious tells that this wasn’t going to last. All I got were the continued signals that Sara pushes Oliver to make questionable choices on the island and that Oliver is just not that likable with her in the present. But even with that as MY interpretation, the sudden move on Sara’s part just seemed out of the blue. It didn’t seem like a very healthy relationship to me, but when the audience fails to see any indicative scenes that the CHARACTERS see this as well, then there is a problem. I love Arrow and I want it to succeed, but it is small things like that are adding up and weighing it down. This was a call though that ultimately I was hoping Oliver (who holds onto EVERYTHING) would make on his own to bring about closure to this sister swapping. Q#2. The baby. I just can’t believe that Arrow would go there this early in the series. This is a storyline that even Joss Whedon HIMSELF couldn’t pull off. It was horrible on Angel and I literally stopped watching. The track has been laid by several other series and it has never seen a successful payout. Please leave this as a Flashback that simply shows just what a lioness Moira was when it came to protecting her children, and just how toxic a certain relationship truly is. Q#3. Well as a viewer I was crushed, so I can expect the same for Thea and Oliver as well. I am just so glad that Oliver and Moira had that touching scene where she told him that she knew. As a fan of Felicity though, I am just bummed that we will never get a return scene with these two women after the one that was so excellent in Heir to the Demon. For Oliver, Moira’s death will rock his world. They were at odds prior to Thea being kidnapped, but I think that his mother knew the truth about him and was proud of him will be the ultimate hurt. The fact that that was acknowledged and then lost. I think it will weigh on him, but ultimately give him the strength he needs to succeed. As for Thea, I think for all that she has been through, I believe this will really give her strength. She is Moira’s daughter after all. I think the Queen will rise. Q#4. Malcolm is coming back to lay claim to his daughter now that momma lion is no longer a threat. He might prove to be an ally to Oliver in the beginning in his fight to take down Slade, but I wouldn’t turn my back on him. Q#5. There are three ways this can go, and I won’t even hazard a guess as to which it will be. I have an idea, but rather than that, I will state this. One of the Lance sisters needs to go, and it is NOT Sara. The EPs are trying to make SOMETHING stick, but NOTHING is working. All I see on screen when her scenes are up is <> and take up valuable screen time. There is no flow when she is involved, there is no use and I think it is insulting to the fans of this show that this continues to happen. Two seasons of trying to find a fit is enough. They have Sara and one Lance sister is enough. With Sara you get Nyssa and the LoA. With the other, meh.

Avatar
@ Claire2014

Seriously I can't understand some of you Sara fans. You seem to believe that Laurel/aka the actress does not have any fans at all, and it is as if you think the producers/writers should just write Laurel out, because "nobody cares about Laurel". Well you and the others are very wrong. There are Laurel fans out there, and there are those (like myself) who don't like Sara. I could NEVER like or vie for someone who STOLE her sister's boyfriend then parades the relationship in front of him, and has the audacity to be angry with Laurel when she is upset over it. I mean, you all even go so far as to threaten to stop watching the show if Sara dies and Laurel lives. What about us Laurel fans? Should we stop watching if Laurel dies and Sara lives? Sara the boyfriend stealer? I also feel Laurel would make a better Canary. She's taller and to me her fights would be more believable (we've seen her fight before and she could kick some real butt). On another note, you want Nyssa back. Some of you want her back because she was in a relationship with Sara. So do you want Sara back for Oliver or for Nyssa? I don't get it. So she's in a serious relationship with Oliver who you all say have chemistry, and you hate Laurel, yet you want Nyssa back for Sara; that means kicking Oliver to the curb. Really? I mean. Really? Well then you're not loyal to the Oliver/Sara relationship. Make up your minds. Cause if you want Sara to be with Oliver, then he should have someone and why not Laurel? Oh. Because you'd rather anybody else than Laurel, right? Now you'd want Felicity. Well I like Felicity, but I always find her such a child, and have never seen a relationship with her and Oliver. She's like Thea, like a sister and I hope the writers don't follow some of you silly fans and make an Oliver/Felicity hookup. I think it gross. Fed up of you Oliver/Sara, Oliver/Felicity, Sara/Nyssa fans. Oh grow up!

Avatar

I think the baby story line might intersect with Felicity's backstory which is supposed to happen in S3 Felicity grew up without a father. She thinks he abandoned them - (might be a villain, might be dead). EBR said in an interview awhile ago that she will be opening up to Oliver about her family sometime in S3.

Smoak and arrow
@ Liz

I wondered about that, too, Liz. I figured there's got to be some kind of symmetry between Felicity's backstory, her dad, the reason he's not there, etc., vs. the situation Oliver will be in with the whole kid drama. Gives them stuff to talk about, bond over, etc. and a way for the show to potentially mirror (even if that means contrasting) the two situations.

Avatar

Sara leaving was not at all selfish but selfless think about it she is sacrificing her happiness with Ollie for his benefit and also so she can come back with assistance from the league I'm not sure how people miss that point.Sara is def the most likely to die and if they do it would be disappointing writing because 1 its soo predictable 2 she has so much future potential as a character i want to see her find some peace with herself down the line and she has only killed 3 people since returning to Starling and they were all assassins or serial killers its not like Ollie didn't kill over 30 people last year

Avatar
@ MantisFly

If they kill off a character as awesome as Sara to retcon someone as blah as Laurel, I think the backlash will be difficult to bounce back from. But, then again, Arrow has a pattern--first, Tommy, then Moira...so seeing as they tend to kill off good characters, I am scared for Sara....I will also be done watching if I have to continue to watch Laurel's journey. Two seasons in, I still don't care. Don't hate her, just really, really don't care. I agree though--she went to get Nyssa. Best plot point ever.

Avatar
@ zoop

Oh me to zoop they have established Sara to much to just kill her off now if they did i just think half of season 2 is then a waste and yes i couldn't care less about Laurel for the same reasons you mentioned

Avatar

I'm surprised Felicity is not in the list of targets (I don't think the target would die--but if it is someone who dies, I'm voting for Laurel--I don't think there are that many fangirls/fanboys who will be upset over it). The set-up of the writing points to Felicity, but lately, shows in general have been doing this thing where shocking the audience seems to take precedence over paying off what's actually on the screen (HIMYM, I'm looking at you). At the end of Three Ghosts, there are three people shown: Lance, Roy, and Felicity. So far, Lance and Roy have been hit (several times for the latter), but Felicity has stayed safe--Slade didn't even come after her in the foundry. He must have noticed that Oliver grabbed her first and took her to safety (logistics, yes, but there was instinct in play there). Then, in State Vs. Queen, the Count says someone who hates Oliver is funding him. I'm assuming that's Slade...and if so, Slade would have kept track of Oliver's first kill after months--with three arrows when one would have sufficed--and that was all done to protect Felicity. There have been parallels all season between Felicity and Shado (Felicity says "my life, my choice" in the same ep where Slade says "her life, her choice"). So if it's anyone other than Felicity, I don't see the writing that points in that direction. Targeting Sara has no set-up beyond that she lived while Shado died, same thing with Laurel--the writing set-up just isn't there.

Avatar
@ zoop

Good points i also think Slade will go after x but it doesn't mean he will succeed what kind of hero is Ollie if he can't save anybody?

Spindae 2o

Loved the RT!
1.Sara?
It felt a bit forced but I don't feel love between Sara and Oli. It's their darkness that atracts them. Their hearts are feelin it and they are just there for each other cause they understand. Sara feeling unworthy of Oliver is so _______ but I get her. I hope she doesn't dies and we see her survive and tell her League of A. story in S3.
2The kid?
This smells so much on a crossover but this once more follows the story so well. It will be about Oli being a better human being and not the killer that he once was. Of course there will be tension with Laurel but that on the sideline this will mean the world to Oliver. And change his perspective as he will probably have issues to go hunt thiefs when he has a kid home, the mother signed her deah sertificate with this appearence.
3.Moira!!!
I died with Moira. Ohhh my heart broke into pieces as she stud up to die. Oh my hosh. We lost a lot of people during these 2 seasons but tbis had the biggest impact on me. How will it affect her children? No clue. I think the really impact will happen in S3. I think it will wake up the fighter in Thea cause she hasn't lost that much but Oliver will have deep scars cause it's his fault and damaged.
4. Merlyn comeback?
Malcom besides being insane is extremly smart and manipulitive. He won't do anything that doesn't benefit him. So no matter for which side he will fight he will benefit. I could imagine him first fight with Slade but after Thea pledges to follow him switch sides.
5. Who will be Slade's next victim?
I'm surprised no one counted Felicity in. Don't forget Slade knows all. But Sara is the save choice to make a full circle. But I honestly doubt Team Arrow will take another hit, let the be for now.

Smoak and arrow

Great discussion this week! Q1: It's odd. I don't love Sara. I don't hate her. I don't really think about her at all, really, and I can't really figure out why. I think the rushed feeling come from the same place that the hook up in the first place felt so out of nowhere/rushed. There's been an issue, for me at least, this season with the lack of emotional character setup for these choices. It's been plot driven needs and, after awhile, it starts to affect characterization. But that's a way longer topic than asked here. LOL. I think she's going back to League of Assassins, maybe to make some peace, maybe to see if she can find herself, don't know. But, like Carissa, I never felt this was a permanent thing on the show. It was handy for stirring up this constant angst around a set of characters which, frankly, is wearing thin for me. It was - in season 1 - and still is in season 2 the weakest, most enjoyable part of the show for me. Q2: I was surprised Arrow is bringing in a kid this early in the game. Granted, it could be more about setting something up for way down the line (if/when Oliver quits, dies, whatever) to insinuate the kid will take his place. That said? Ugh! I am NOT a fan of babies/children on my shows. I don't care about the It's Comic Book Canon! argument. I just don't enjoy seeing characters and stories saddled by the Baby Element. Like Carla, I wonder if this is more about setting up Cross-Over "logic" between the two shows; giving Oliver a reason to be there. But yeah. Not loving this. There is such a thing as TOO soap opera, CW. You're walking that line with this last pack of episodes. Like Nick, I don't see the purpose and it feels like it's totally going to distract from the core dynamics and stories of the show which is exactly what I don't want for the new season. I already feel season 2 suffered from that and really hoped season 3 would bring the spotlight back to the characters I want to see more of and get back to the action and fun with less angsting. Too much angst! LOL! Q3: Poor Moira. The Queen is dead... long live the Queen! :( I'll miss Susanna Thompson something awful. She was so good in this role but I wasn't surprised she was written off. They didn't seem to know what to do with her anymore. I'm hoping that Moira's death gives Thea a stronger backbone and makes her stand her ground and tough things out more. Less "whining" more strength. She was shown as more adult at the beginning of the season and I'd like to see that expanded in the coming episodes. I think the death will just destroy Oliver. The guilt is going to kill him. It'll be interesting to see how he eventually makes peace with it, if he can. Maybe this is what will pull his focus away from Pursuit of Bad Guys to Protection Of The Innocent. Once that happens, I think Carla is right, Oliver will be all about assuming responsibility, stepping up, etc. I'm hoping that this will pull Oliver and Thea together and make them a stronger, more loyal family to each other but I suspect it'll push them further apart before things get better. Q4: Oh yeah. Malcolm will return. Soon as he hears Moira was murdered, he'll be hot footing it back to town to protect his daughter as everything starts to fall apart. He's lost Tommy. I don't believe there's anything he won't do to make sure the same fate doesn't fall on Thea. If that means teaming up with Oliver/Arrow and bringing out his Dark Archer gear? Malcolm's gonna do it. Q5: I have absolutely no idea.

Avatar
@ Smoak&Arrow

Q5. u hav no idea..!!! liar liar pants on fire..lol

Modwild
@ Smoak&Arrow

I watched Caity Lotz in "The Machine" last night, and she's really being underutilized as Sara. She has a much wider range as an actress than she's been able to portray in her Arrow role, and I think her lack of real emotional range has been detrimental here. It's hard to feel for her because she doesn't really feel. Now that I've seen her capabilities, I'm sort of disappointed she's being held back.

Avatar
@ Carissa Pavlica

I just saw Caity Lotz in The Pact, and I have to agree--the girl CAN act. Then I saw a video Smoak&Arrow posted of EBR singing Summer Nights on Tumblr, and wow, that girl can sing. I've seen KC in lots of other stuff, and loved her on Supernatural. It's definitely all about material--all of them can act, but not all the characters are written equally well. In KC's case, however, I'm convinced she does evil/unlikeable well (demon on Supernatural, b*tch in Gossip Girl and Melrose Place), but there is something very cold about Laurel I just can't invest in--and I think the way they have tried to fix her character has made her more inconsistent and unbelievable to me. If only one sister makes it out alive, I'm rooting for Sara (I also think CL has more chemistry with the entire cast--especially the core trio).

Avatar
@ nica

I'm sorry but I don't get all this Sara love and Laurel hate. And what's with all this praise about Sara's acting and talks about coldness for Laurel? Well I for one don't like Sara. I can never support a character who stole her sister's boyfriend, under no circumstances. And I always felt more chemistry between Laurel and Oliver than Sara and Oliver. If any of the sisters have to die, I prefer it to be Sara. I also think Laurel is badass as a fighter and would make a better Canary.

Avatar
@ nica

mica you banged the nail on the head about Laurel being cold its exactly how i feel.Caity Lotz particularly in the last 15 min of 'The Pact' is awesome imo

Avatar
@ Carissa Pavlica

I think it suits her character as Sara though she is clearly damaged and lives with guilt all the time of course she is going to be down and out.But as for Caity Lotz acting ability check her out in 'Death Valley' she is literally the opposite of Sara very happy go lucky quite funny too which is why i know she has range.

Avatar
@ Smoak&Arrow

Maybe because Sara is my fav and I've being paying a lot of attention to her story i def saw a build up between her and Ollie its just that it was more subtle and not as forced as some of the other romances on this show i noticed their build up from ep 4 the breadcrumbs are def there

Avatar

Sara's such an obvious choice and since we know laurel is the canary in the books, its too predictable. They could still follow that, if not this season. Much like Moira's death, it should be a shocker.

Arrow Season 2 Episode 20 Quotes

Mom, it doesn't seem fair to me. One mistake and it feels like my entire life is over.

Oliver

Laurel: You're really cute when you're mopey.
Oliver: I'm not mopey.
Laurel: Mopey's your default Ollie. It's part of your smoldering charm.
Oliver: I do have smoldering charm.