Very disappointed in the lost son storyline. Very disappointed. Such huge potential.
I pray CBS does the right thing and end the show because its such a shell of its former self
Rubbish ! The show has consistently been one of the best on TV and hopefully will continue for many years to come.
If this is just some stupid writers stuff, they might as well put a collar around Lisbon neck and just have Jane say HERE GIRL! YOU'RE A GOOOOD GIRL!
What's funny is I didn't see Jane's behavior in all of this as any different from the previous 5 years and with her lecture at the end of the episode he had finally been put in his place.
All I could think was: that is one creepy doll, why would you give that to your child. Until it turned into the golem and I thought, Oh, that's why.
I kind of hope that they didn't kill jeremy but that he is in a sleeplike state like Ichabod was, even though stopping his heart sounds rather definite.
What was up with the teeth of those four who speak as one though? ugh. And, as always: please change Ichabod's clothing! give him a new shirt for christmas or something!
If you really think about it. Why would the FBI need Jane? They were fine without him. You know that old saying keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Why does the FBI need or want Jane and why does Jane want to be needed by them. And why on earth does he need Lisbon? He didn't need Lisbon when he was in Ecuador for two years. If he had asked her she would have gone. He didn't so why now, what's the play? Lisbon is not Jane's dog. She has built a new life for herself and now Jane comes and unravels it. There had better be a better reason then just because he can. No woman just pulls up stakes for a guy cause their just good friends. Lisbon is not a tumble weed. Jane is but Lisbon is not. Something is not right. What do you all think?
Lisbon and Jane have a cop-partner relationship. I don't know of such in real-life, but it's a very common fictional relationship portrayed as very close, like the military's band of brothers under enemy fire, and sometimes portrayed as a kind of daredevil adrenaline rush that's addictive to rush into very dangerous circumstances with your partner and win. A fictional character like Lisbon, who has been in law enforcement and has, as a character, exhibited that cop-partner thin-blue-line loyalty would rejoin her partner to hunt criminals. Again, though, I'm only talking book and movie archetypes.
Did anyone else wonder why the heck Regina trusted Henry to take him to the vault? If you remember, the real Henry knew about her vault & where it was, so Henry even ASKING should have sent out warning sirens!
I really did like this episode, it had a really good feel to it. I like the high tech look also. I like Jane and his stunts, especially the name on the street with the arrow pointing right at him. Pretty funny stuff. I knew he was going to do something when Fischer made him leave his hot dog after he paid for it.
I don't like how the FBI is dealing with Jane. They don't seem to be honest in their dealings. Either you are going to toss him in jail or let him go. But to use him and threaten with jail is BS. They were using him like some stupid tool. I did not like Cho's advice. He seemed different, kind of a sell out. I get the feeling that Jane is going to have to deal with the aftermath of this whole Red John thing. Not on an emotional level, he's going to have to deal with the dirt Red John left behind. I also got the feeling that underneath all that playfulness he's hiding something, something big. I think the only reason Jane came back is because he got the offer from the FBI. What ever he is up to now he needs the use of their muscle. Jane can do anything he wants. He could have slipped in and out of the US undetected. What I want to know is who is this big unseen power that wants Jane on the FBI team. Why has this person not surfaced yet. Why so mysterious?
As I commented, I really really want RJ gone for good -- but that list he gave to Abbott implied to me that RJ disciples are going to turn up and I'm afraid the show is going to turn the FBI into as corrupt an organization as the CBI was.
I think a White Queen crossover character would be cool both bad CS Lewis's White queen and good Wonderland White Queen.
I still think the writing of the episodes is going down with each episode, in this case the major flaw with the trial. Once it's established that there are clones, Avery's lawyer only has to raise the fact that one of the clones committed the murder. There's no cloning in this time, the laws wouldn't cover it, reasonable doubt prevails. (In addition to the sloppy writing that lets two witnesses in a trail interact and listen to each other's testimony). The internal logic of the plots is sooo bad and sloppy, it's almost as bad as Monk was in that way. Gotta admit the episode was better in terms of the characters interactions, and Maya, the psychic character was a good character, thanks to nice acting by Megan Ferguson.
Totally with everything you wrote. The clones are reasonable doubt.
The doorknob sequence with Maya reaches her parents was exquisitely tender.
I can sort of handwave the clones as reasonable doubt thing, I think, with the fact that maybe there's some loophole futuristic law about it?
But also, if Ethan Avery said "my clones did it!" or mentioned anything about the clones, he's admitting to having clones of himself in the first place, which is illegal. And while he's an egomaniac, the clones did see themselves as family, so their desire to protect themselves and one another doesn't seem *too* sloppy to me.
I loved everything about Maya. I'd like to see her again.
I think we all a grieving the loss of a great mystery. The keep you on the edge of your seat emotional high we all got from digging so hard into who and what Red John was. We have no more work to do and we find it hard to put the shovel down. We no longer feel like we are involved. That and a somewhat disappointing ending to the arc have made us quite the grumpy bunch. You live and you go on. I'm not going to die with Red John.
No, "we're" not "all" grieving. Some of us are happy after the RJ story line has been dragged out and into convolutions of ridiculousness. Thank you, Mentalist producers, for finally moving on!
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