have it ever occurred to you that DAWSON LIED FOR Hermann he heard the kid after the chief called everyone out Hermann stayed when Dawson was ALREADY on her way out I support Hermann that he needed to do what he felt right but Dawson PROTECT IT HIM not to get in trouble on official fire department papers stuff since he disobeyed his chief
Laurel Lance?...hum...the reason for her portrayal is because of the writers..not because of the character herself which has comic book canon that can be used for her writing.Laurel Lance has decades of writing which can be used to pay homage to the character and to The Black Canary but the writers refuse to use it.Good for Katie Cassidy that she uses what little they give her and got an award for it.As for the reason Felicity rose is because of how the shippers and her stans viewed her and pushed her to the fore front of the show,she even had more scenes than the leading lady of the show so what did people expect.I agree ,as a Laurel Lance stan they need to kill her off and have her on another show..perhaps Birds of Prey where comic book canon can be written for her and not a show on the CW .As for Iris,the writing has failed her as well for the leading lady of that show.Last episode ,Barry is laying in a hospital and where is Iris????..nowhere to be seen.Blame the writers for these two leading ladies getting crappy writing but I forgot which network we are talking abt..the shipping network...
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Felicity became important the moment the Warner Brothers' big boss told the producers they wanted more of her. Before the show even took off. Before people started talking about the show. Before "shippers" were here.Redundancy is tiring, I'm over this argument. So many elements of the comics have been twisted to accommodate the small screen but no one is talking about those. Ask yourself one thing, how can you blame the writing for the shortcomings of a character but at the same time only praise the character/the actress who portrays them when said character does something right?
My argument stems from the EPs stating that Felicity was kept on and was pushed front and centre because of the fans.They also stated that Felicity's mom came back because the fans asked for it and because of the "noise" that the stans were making.The EPs have stated that the show will not be based on the comics as well so that is where my argument stems from.
The show is based on comics obviously but that doesn't mean they have to honor every detail about them, not if it doesn't feel organic on screen. There are constant easter eggs throughout the show for the fans of the comics, who are 1 part of the audience. The show could function just fine without them but they still take the time to incorporate them into the storylines. Meanwhile you're saying they redirected the entire show when they made EBR a regular within 14 episodes for the ONLY reason that another part of the audience asked for it when there are innumerable factors to consider. The Arrow writers are not the comics writers. The actors portraying those paper characters are very real and have different kinds of chemistry with each other. The television standards are not the comics standards. And Black Canary was first written in 1947. We're in 2015. If you're bringing the comics argument ahead, it's only fair to talk about the 2015's Black Canary, and only that version.Lastly, if you're so convinced the fans have that much power over storylines, make some "noise" of your own and see what happens.
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Im not making any noise,Ive just stopped watching.I never said they redirected the show for EBR,I stated that her charater was never to be treated as one to have so much screen time however due to her fans cries and trending ,they kept her on as a regular.There are interviews to back it up.Correct,the Arrow writers are not comic writers but to mess up a canon comic characters' portrayal is a huge disservice to the comic fanbase who started to watch the show for the simple fact that the show states it was based on the DC characters.They do have power over the show,they The EPs of Arrow stated it in interviews.Also see TVD ,another show which was ran to the ground because they were stated to be from "the source material" and strayed away with the writing.My dog in the game is Laurel Lance,they messed up the character and as I said ,they have decades of source material which does not have to be an exact replica but the character could have been written better.As I said,I dont watch the show anymore ,so we can agree to disagree on this.
The EPs (greg berlanti, marc, etc.) have said multiple times that the WB executive asked for them to bring Felicity back before the show was even airing, when they were still filming her first episode. It was nothing to do with fan response that Felicity's role increased initially. They have changed so much from comic canon yet this is the one character they have to follow canon for? No, they can and do do what they want. Roy's character is completely different from the comics, Diggle doesn't exist in them, and he's an integral part of the show, Oliver's personality and look are different from the comics, etc. They do their own spin and aren't obligated to cater to the small minority that has read the comic books. Go look up GA sales figures some time. They are small and no smart business caters selectively to that small of a group. This is also a show about Green Arrow, not BC. This is not her story and they have said many times this is their version of Green Arrow. Finally, although Iris deserves more screen time & better writing at times, her writing and character is worlds above Laurel's and has been from the beginning. I'm sorry, but I don't think this is on the writing at all in Laurel's case, but the actress that plays her. Candice also has lots of chemistry with Grant, while KC has absolutely none with Stephen, which is why they had to change it. She didn't even audition for the part, so it's not surprising they didn't realize it until afterwards. You don't try and force what doesn't work.
Tara Lewis has been on 3 episodes (or it feels that way) of Criminal Minds and her character is a fish out of water. I think she fits so much better than previous short term (1 year) character.
She has been on 6 episodes. I was surprised that I like Jennifer Love Hewitt on CM because I never liked her much but her character on CM was such a great fit. I was sad see her go. As for Aisha Taylor, just don't like her or her character much.
Yes, well the showrunners might finally be turning the Titanic around. This was much improved. The writing and direction were good, things seem to be meshing between the characters and the action was crisp. Settling the Espo / Ryan argument was timely as the issue was becoming distracting, despite the humor. And seeing Kate and Rick taking 'time in' was pleasant and reassuring to this viewer. Their scenes together seemed much more relaxed and the old charm was back. Rick was funny in his self deprecating way, but not stupidly so. And I liked the final scene where KB's phone reminded us of the menace of the LokSat issue without it being too heavy handed. Left me wanting more, which, I guess, is one measure of success.
funny you should say Titanic as the preview for the next ep shows castle doing the Leonardo King scene
Please! It is the ludicrous story line, really bad,bad writing (did you understand anything at all?) and the lack of direction as characters stand around delivering silly lines over which they can't keep a straight face
I understand that if the writing, direction, and acting are as bad as you claim, then viewership will continue to tank, ABC will pull the show and everybody loses. The Castle team will all be mindful of this, as well. I think there is some experimentation going on, not all of it good, but I am feeling more confident after the last two eps. We've had ludicrous stories in past seasons, zombies, steam punk and the like, but I think we accept that this is a police procedural with humor and some romance, and we give it some latitude on being true to life. The key question to me is how the tension between Beckett and Castle [the conflicted feelings each has for the other] can be credibly maintained going forward.
Fabulous episode and this show has gone from strength to strength *_* Re: your impression, Jane did mention that she was covered in make up to cover the tattoos so she was wiping off the make up not the tattoos. I was so hoping David would inform someone and that red haired lady is another mystery i cant wait to get solved. Also, intrigued by Jane not disclosing the tree tattoo guy's face and memory to anyone...... He was drawing a bird and she has one on her neck... i guess that the tattoos will lead her back to him
"Alright, seriously, no one else yelled at Walter for what he did to Megan? " Oh I yelled all right. Walter's been a megalomaniacal fuckwit lately and Sly's marrying Megan was the metaphorical slap his ego needed....and deserved. Now it remains to be seen whether he'll come up with a cure for MS in the next couple of weeks (yeah.....right).
"megalomaniacal fuckwit" LOL! It's def how I've been feeling about Walter recently too. I mean, I get that he's acting the way he is because that's his nature etc, and all he can see his saving his sister, but this quality isnt an endearing persnality trait. It's a tough one for the writers cos his very nature means that Walter is never going to be the warmest of characters and yet he's the lead of the show.
I read this and I noticed something you did not mention that I thought was important. At the beginning of this episode there was a banner hanging in the church with Acts 8:38; which is part of the scripture of the story of Ethiopian eunuch. We later find out that Virgil is a eunuch. In this story it talks about the Ethiopian eunuch needing a guide to explain the prophesy of Isaiah. Also around Vigil neck was a amulet that looks like the tree of life; which takes me back the the episode before when it mentioned the axis mundi. This made me think that we have not seen the end of Virgil. Maybe I'm reading too much into this but I believe Virgil was the name of Dante's guide in the Divine Comedy. He had to die to be a ghost to guide him through purgatory.
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We could start with the obvious: that was not Excalibur as Arthur did not have Excalibur. Emma has Excalibur. She used it when she showed up. It was curious two hours. Emma who promised Zelena help over onion rings takes advantage of Zelena not taking the deal to kill Zelena as soon as she can. Doubtful. Looks like Hook will go Dark know that he knows he has magic. And it seems his first job is to kill Emma. Although Rumple could be a bit of a temptation as well. My curiosity is the Snow Globe in Rumple's hand which reminds me first of Frozen but second reminds me of Rosebud the sled from Citizen Kane which was Kane's favorite toy growing up; Rumples favorite toy growing up was Peter Pan. Now those are memories to relive. The problem with the Red story was granny is like Ruby, part wolf. Ruby is not alone and Leaving Granny behind is cruel but at least she missed out on the frozen curse.Can't wait for the whole flying monkey talk when it comes to Aurora. But seriously a bit wondering who the lesbians will be in 5B as we now have 5 candidates in Aurora, Mulan, Ruby, Merida and Lillith.Hoping it is Ruby and Lillith as that would be a fearsome combination a a wolf girl and a dragon girl. Though they tried to pimply it would be Merida and Mulan. perhaps it could be all 5. And seriously wouldn't it have made more sense for Emma and Hook to have a Light House so they could watch the Jolly Roger? At any rate it is over all except the Swan Song, the song a Swan sings before she dies and goes to the other world where she must float off in the river styx if she is truly dead but if she is not then she may return. One thing is for sure we are missing the Nimue scene where she prevents Emma from merging the sword and the Dagger but does not die for doing so. It could have been the Rumple scene but that would mean nothing. We are also missing the Dark Curse and what happened to Lancelot and what happened to Violet. this tale is not close to complete.
I doubt Hook is going to kill Emma, and also Rumple... esp Emma. And i really doubt Hook will also forget the love he feel for Emma and that is what drives him more then anything when he finally doesnt let his hurt feed into the darkness.
A swan song is sung right before a swan dies. Could be suicide or could be a killing. Al I heard was Hook saying Swan must die and all I saw was Hook attacking Rumple in a preview. So probably both will happen and in the end they will bring back who they can since nobody really dies in this show.
>that might have been true when Kim Dot Com was a thing, but he isn't now. ?? Im not sure what you mean.And using the name dot com was not only cheesy since its the same as a real life person's stupid name but to have the TV dot com be a cold blooded psychopath seems to be more like government propaganda against big fat dot-com who is a gentle giant.Im surprised then didnt write up the TV one to be a pedophile as well.
Most of us want Hayley with Klaus OR Elijah OR someone as dangerously interesting as she. Jackson is a really good guy (and yes, he makes me go Awwww...) but his goodness and the "happy, normal, married" storyline is dragging Hayley down into dullsville. Perhaps Jackson can turn really dark or fall in love with Freya. Not because Freya is second choice ... NO WAY ... but because I see potential and chemistry between the two. Poor Jack. It's not his fault, It's just very difficult to beat the bad boys like Klaus and Elijah.
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