Join us for the last Supergirl Round Table of 2015!
All kinds of secrets were revealed on Supergirl Season 1 Episode 8 leaving us wondering what will happen next.
Below, TV Fanatics Kathleen Wiedel, Christine Orlando, Jim Garner, and Stacy Glanzman discuss the Astra conflict, their hopes for the season, and whether Winn should take the plunge.
How will the Kara/Astra conflict play out? Will Kara eventually be forced to kill Astra?
Kathleen: Astra did seem hesitant to kill Kara in that scene with her and her husband, though she doesn't seem to have much remorse for killing other people in service what she thinks is the greater good. If it comes to to a showdown between Astra and Kara, I think it's possible J'onn J'onzz (AKA Hank Henshaw) would intercede and kill Astra to spare Kara the enormous emotional burden of killing her own aunt. Though if we're supposed to take Astra at her word that she actually loves Kara, it's possible that she might throw herself between Kara and some other foe, and die that way.
Christine: No, I don’t think Kara will kill her. I think she has too much doubt about the conflict between Astra and her mother. I think Astra will be around for a while to cause emotional turmoil for Kara and make her question everything she thinks she knows.
Jim: I think Astra will be around for a bit, the fact she is currently sitting in a cell while the DEO and Kara face off with the other Kryptonians leads me to believe that she will have a different fate, one that will take time to play out.
Stacy: As determined as Astra is to bring Kara to her side, I could see her end up being the one to switch sides and team up with Kara against her husband. I don't know if that will happen, but I don't see Kara killing Astra, even if she does stay on the evil side.
Cat knows Kara is Supergirl! Were you surprised? How involved will she be?
Kathleen: I was surprised that they revealed her secret identity to someone not in the core team so early on. That said, it was growing somewhat silly that Cat apparently hadn't noticed Kara looked exactly like Supergirl without her glasses. Cat will likely encourage Kara in her superheroics, though not hesitate to rip her a new one when she screws up.
Christine: Like Kathleen, I never expected it this early in the season but I like it. Cat will undoubtedly shake things up a bit for our little team, but I do wonder how much Kara will share with her about the DEO and her aunt.
Jim: I wasn't surprised at all that Cat figured it out this quickly. Cat didn't build a media empire by missing details.I also think Cat will end up being even more of a mentor now. Cat may not have super abilities but, she does have experience wielding a lot of power. Unlike anyone else Kara knows, Cat has the knowledge to help Kara navigate the world stage.
Stacy: I was surprised she found out this early, but I am also happy about it from a realistic stand point. I was glad to see that Cat had been adding up the various clues and put the pieces together. I agree she'll serve as a mentor. I don't see her spending time in the secret headquarters with Kara, James, and Winn.
Will Winn take James' advice? Should he?
Kathleen: It would be nice from a character development standpoint for Winn to actually be proactive in escaping the friend-zone with Kara, instead of just moping about being stuck there. Even if the relationship ultimately doesn't work out, at least he might learn more about himself so as to be better in future relationships.
Christine: I hope so. I hate it when people, and characters, don’t speak up and take a chance. If Winn ever wants a chance, he’s got to be honest with Kara. What I found interesting was that James was encouraging him. It left me wondering whether that’s because he really has no feelings for Kara himself or if he does, but if Kara’s with Winn that will make it easier to ignore them since he’s already in a relationship.
Jim: Having been the love sick doe-eyed dork (many years ago) I hope he does take the advice and that it works out better for him than it does for many of us here in the real world.. Good luck Winn!
Stacy: I think he should go for it. I don't think he really has anything to lose. He may get shot down, but he won't lose her as a friend. It might be awkward for a little while, but I think they would get past it.
What was your favorite quote/scene?
Kathleen: I absolutely loved the scene where Cat talked to Kara about her first son. That could not have been an easy conversation, even with someone she absolutely trusts. And the fact that Cat was willing to give up CatCo (essentially her life's work) to keep her son from being dragged through the media mudstorm was especially meaningful. Cat Grant, I think, has had the most significant development and growth since the pilot.
Christine: I agree, Kathleen. Cat’s development has been remarkable, and that was my favorite scene as well. Cat has quite a past, but she doesn’t generally lie about it when asked. I like that about her, and I liked how honest she was with Kara about her son. That she was willing to walk away from Catco was both extraordinary and completely in line with being a mother.
Jim: I loved Cat confronting Kara about who she really was and how she calmly asked her to remove her glasses. None of this "let me leap off the building" crap that we've seen so many times before, just a very simple straight forward "show me your face" moment. It was elegant and awesome at the same time.
Stacy: My favorite moment was Kara's emotional outburst at her "mom" and her frustration when she couldn't answer all of her questions. That was such an intense scene and I really felt for her.
What grade would you give the series so far? What are your hopes for the rest of the season?
Kathleen: I'd give the series so far a solid B. It's had some growing pains and a tendency towards heavy-handedness, but it also has some great moments and a variety of female characters who show their strength in profoundly different ways. Plus, *Martian Manhunter*! For the rest of the season, I'm looking for them to continue with character development (especially poor Winn, who really needs it) and focus on quality storytelling. Don't necessarily rely on Villains-of-the-Week.
Christine: B. It’s not as hard core or dark as some other superhero shows but that’s what I like about it. I like that I can enjoy the show with my daughter. I’m truly enjoying the characters. Kara is the perfect combination of sweet and strong. Cat’s growth has been a wonderful surprise and I’m interested in seeing where things are going for both Winn and James. In a nutshell, I want to see more.
Jim: I will go a little higher with a B+. The way they've made Cat more than a two-dimensional "bad boss" has really impressed me. I've really enjoyed the action sequences and there has been way more heart in the show than I expected. My hopes for the rest of the season is just more of the same, they've found a good balance, I hope they stick with it.
Stacy: I give it an A. It has exceeded my expectations going in and I have really enjoyed every episode so far. Sure it has it's cheesy moments, but I like it for what it is and I'm thoroughly entertained on a weekly basis. Nothing has really disappointed me. As everyone said, my hopes for the season are more of the same.
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Stacy Glanzman was a staff writer for TV Fanatic. She retired in March, 2019.