Wow, seems you like nothing about the show. Just stop watching it if you don't enjoy any of it, even if an actor you love is in it.
Annabella
June 13th, 2011 11:34 PM
@Mike & Katie
HBO didn't do anything but stay faithful to the book. Eddard dies there too. They weren't "Killing off the talent"
There is plenty of talent to be had. Eddard's death is one of the most daring things I've ever seen done with a series. NO ONE kills off the main character. But let me be clear, it was Martin who did that, not HBO. And it's flippin' brilliant.
This also paves the way for Robb's bad-assery.
jackpine
June 13th, 2011 11:28 PM
Problem is how the HBO series has portrayed Ned Stark, and the Starks and the Lannisters...
1) in the HBO series, Ned Stark has clean hands ( done no wrong )
2) in the books, Ned Stark along w/ Robert Baratheon are the ones responsible for the death of the Targaryen heirs and children
3) in the HBO series, Tywin Lannister is blamed for what happened to the Targaryen heirs, and is made to be the source of all evil....
Within the confines of the HBO series, had the royal houses stayed 100% in line with the books, then the death of Ned Stark would not be so traumatic....
Katie
June 13th, 2011 11:25 PM
Not going to lie... the episode really made me mad! I never read the books so I really don't know what is going to happen next but damn did they really have to kill of the main character? Sean Bean was the first reason I wanted to watch this show!
This show borders on creepy anyway, I can handle the sex scenes and the supernatural element but sorry incest is not something I like to watch! So did they have to kill off one of the more purer aspects of the show!
Plus I really can't believe that these idiots in the capital would really want a little whiny brat like Joffrey to be king! Just stupid people!
And will Jon ever learn about his mother now?
Shock value aside I just hope they did not kill the show with Ned Stark!
I just wish they could get more budgets, so could create some great battle thing. It will get harder when the dragons are borned and the direwolves grows up.
jackpine
June 13th, 2011 6:06 PM
Geo. RR Martin's "A Song of Ice and Fire" - of which Game of Thrones is only the 1st of 7 books.... can best be described as the "Reservoir Dogs" meets "Willow" ( yeah the Ron Howard Tolkein-lite rip off ) Everybody dies in the series, with only a few, very few left standing in the end.... Sad to see Sean Bean fall prey to Martin's homicidal tendencies, as it would be hard to find a character in the book that hangs around long, but he won't be alone for long, the list of dead characters will soon outnumber the active cast.... I can't see this series surviving beyond a second season before the public tires of the rotating cast....
@Pratik - please don't apologize for commenting. Once I saw the uproar, I realized how it sounded. Your comments help me learn what not to do again in the future. It's all for you, the readers!!
pratik
June 13th, 2011 1:06 PM
Sorry Carissa, I thought the way Shae was mentioned, it was a spoiler. But apparently it's not. Thanks to TJeff too for correcting me.
So many of my friends are discussing this episode, but you guys really need a better commment system. I had say incorporate word press for commenting.
Hi all - I'm really sorry so many of you misinterpreted "most important person in his life" to be something more than I intended - Tyrion basically seeking, and finding, a girlfriend. I thought their chemistry made the comment in itself. For a man who spends his life in whorehouses, that's a big deal. I just didn't communicate my thoughts effectively, and I apologize if you were swayed somewhere other than where I meant to take the conversation.
@Rick Desper - you were correct. Simply changing the word die to dying made it more clear. Unless I missed something, he was still in the midst of magic as we closed the episode. But they did say that due to the infection, he had two hours to live. If you're resorting to magic, it sure seems a foregone conclusion that the person is moments from death.
@Ben - can you tell me what you considered spoilers? I didn't intend to spoil, but admit to the above errors in judgment.
Thanks so much for taking the time to come by and comment. I lov
Mike in NC
June 13th, 2011 7:58 AM
Never read the books and have been enjoying the series. However I may jump on the books instead...
My big problem here is that they are killing off the acting talent that has been the glue. There have been enough episodes to show that after Peter D. it gets really thin on people who can hold the screen.
If I were the producers I would be concerned about people like me who may not care as much anymore after the hiatus between season 1&2 is over. It just seems they are wasting brilliant casting moves.
Ben
June 13th, 2011 7:56 AM
Lots of spoilers here. Won't be back for another recap.
Don't worry. I think the reviewer doesn't read all the books, maybe just first one. And Shae is not the most important woman in Tyrion's life, at least not in the book.
youngnan
June 13th, 2011 4:19 AM
At this point, where bookverse and series verse are so muddled, you could probably lay up on the review for the microscopic slip. Dying's not instantaneous anyway, so you won't be that far off to say, "yeah, you started to die, but guess what, antibiotics..."?
Anyway, best episode yet. The only one done even close to properly. Why i kept watching it, even though the bookverse geek in me is screaming in agony. If they stuff book 2 in s01, they might stuff b2 and b3 in s02, so that might be better... or worse... I'll probably stop at this before the butchery resumes anyway, and reiterate some friendly advice to anyone watching this thinking to read the book after - DON'T. Unless you let years pass to wash away the muck of this 1.5 star adaptation.
Somehow, still better than Camelot...
pratik
June 13th, 2011 3:10 AM
I agree with Steve. Please no spoilers here. Like she is going to be the most important person in Tyrion's life. It is hard enough reading the book after already having seen most of season 1 as you know all the twists beforehand
Anyways did not see the ending coming. Glad that a major character died. But I hope that Geofferys head is on a spike very soon.
What i do want to know is the relation b/w the Lord of the Citadel, and Dany && Jorah is son of Lord Commander Mormont. I completely missed the second part. When was this told?
Drogo doesn't die just because of the simple infection. The witch has treated him with wrong meds, because she want the revenge for her village. So Drogo may not die if Dany didn't let the witch treat her. Ironically, I know.
Rick Desper Rank: New User
June 13th, 2011 12:22 AM
We are told in the episode that Drogo has a mortal wound and will die within a small number of hours. And then the blood magic starts.
The reviewer mispeaks when she says that "it was heartbreaking to watch Drogo die of a simple infection". That's not what happens in the episode (or in the book). If she had used the word "dying" instead of "die" it would be more accurate. The effect of the blood magic, if there is to be any, has yet to be seen.
It's worth watching next week.
Ok, sorry HBO producers, I expected great things from this episode and you failed me. Not greatly, but you did fail me.
1. Where the heck are all the battle scenes portrayed so gloriously in the book? Tyrion actually fought and killed. He didn't take a nap (after taking the Hammer Pill) and woke up to see all had been done. He is better than that. Also, where are the battle scenes between Robb and the Kingslayer? Whatever improvements HBO made regarding the direwolves, they averted it all. Grey Wind fought like a beast in the book and pretty much won the battle for Robb in the book. I didn't even see a sight of him in this episode. Did HBO just run out of money or something? The Chinese don't do a lot of things right but the American HBO has a thing or two to learn from them regarding producing battle scenes.
2. I like that Shae is more than a whore in the serie. She is hot, has some cool accent, and has this sexy mystique about her that even I adore, let a lone a dwarf. Ok, alr
In the book Ned doesn't see Arya in the crowd. The man he sends is Yoren (not actually his man but the man from the Night's Watch which explains why he's still alive). In the book Yoren does the same thing he just doesn't do it at Ned's direction
Still, I don't want anyone who has read the books spoiling the rest of the season. The same thing about "Shae being the most significant person in Tyrion's life." I haven't seen that yet and have not had a chance to read it yet, so if you've read the book and are reviewing the episode, please do not go past where they are in the series.
Annabella
June 12th, 2011 11:53 PM
He is obviously dying. And I know how he really dies and the author did not spoil that. Get your panties out of a wad.
George
June 12th, 2011 11:28 PM
We do not know that Drogo dies from episode 9. That question is left unanswered. All we know is that the witch is trying to save him. Thanks for the spoiler with no warning.
Cersei Lannister: An unhappy wife is a wine merchant's best friend.
June 14th, 2011 2:45 AM
lord Stark not dead at his place he died the actor who had visited the ćeliji.u last scene shows a wig. :-)
Rank: Extra
June 14th, 2011 2:39 AM
@Katie
Wow, seems you like nothing about the show. Just stop watching it if you don't enjoy any of it, even if an actor you love is in it.
June 13th, 2011 11:34 PM
@Mike & Katie
HBO didn't do anything but stay faithful to the book. Eddard dies there too. They weren't "Killing off the talent"
There is plenty of talent to be had. Eddard's death is one of the most daring things I've ever seen done with a series. NO ONE kills off the main character. But let me be clear, it was Martin who did that, not HBO. And it's flippin' brilliant.
This also paves the way for Robb's bad-assery.
June 13th, 2011 11:28 PM
Problem is how the HBO series has portrayed Ned Stark, and the Starks and the Lannisters...
1) in the HBO series, Ned Stark has clean hands ( done no wrong )
2) in the books, Ned Stark along w/ Robert Baratheon are the ones responsible for the death of the Targaryen heirs and children
3) in the HBO series, Tywin Lannister is blamed for what happened to the Targaryen heirs, and is made to be the source of all evil....
Within the confines of the HBO series, had the royal houses stayed 100% in line with the books, then the death of Ned Stark would not be so traumatic....
June 13th, 2011 11:25 PM
Not going to lie... the episode really made me mad! I never read the books so I really don't know what is going to happen next but damn did they really have to kill of the main character? Sean Bean was the first reason I wanted to watch this show!
This show borders on creepy anyway, I can handle the sex scenes and the supernatural element but sorry incest is not something I like to watch! So did they have to kill off one of the more purer aspects of the show!
Plus I really can't believe that these idiots in the capital would really want a little whiny brat like Joffrey to be king! Just stupid people!
And will Jon ever learn about his mother now?
Shock value aside I just hope they did not kill the show with Ned Stark!
Rank: Guest Star
June 13th, 2011 8:41 PM
I just wish they could get more budgets, so could create some great battle thing. It will get harder when the dragons are borned and the direwolves grows up.
June 13th, 2011 6:06 PM
Geo. RR Martin's "A Song of Ice and Fire" - of which Game of Thrones is only the 1st of 7 books.... can best be described as the "Reservoir Dogs" meets "Willow" ( yeah the Ron Howard Tolkein-lite rip off ) Everybody dies in the series, with only a few, very few left standing in the end.... Sad to see Sean Bean fall prey to Martin's homicidal tendencies, as it would be hard to find a character in the book that hangs around long, but he won't be alone for long, the list of dead characters will soon outnumber the active cast.... I can't see this series surviving beyond a second season before the public tires of the rotating cast....
Rank: Staff Member
June 13th, 2011 2:15 PM
@Pratik - please don't apologize for commenting. Once I saw the uproar, I realized how it sounded. Your comments help me learn what not to do again in the future. It's all for you, the readers!!
June 13th, 2011 1:06 PM
Sorry Carissa, I thought the way Shae was mentioned, it was a spoiler. But apparently it's not. Thanks to TJeff too for correcting me.
So many of my friends are discussing this episode, but you guys really need a better commment system. I had say incorporate word press for commenting.
Rank: Staff Member
June 13th, 2011 11:09 AM
Hi all - I'm really sorry so many of you misinterpreted "most important person in his life" to be something more than I intended - Tyrion basically seeking, and finding, a girlfriend. I thought their chemistry made the comment in itself. For a man who spends his life in whorehouses, that's a big deal. I just didn't communicate my thoughts effectively, and I apologize if you were swayed somewhere other than where I meant to take the conversation.
@Rick Desper - you were correct. Simply changing the word die to dying made it more clear. Unless I missed something, he was still in the midst of magic as we closed the episode. But they did say that due to the infection, he had two hours to live. If you're resorting to magic, it sure seems a foregone conclusion that the person is moments from death.
@Ben - can you tell me what you considered spoilers? I didn't intend to spoil, but admit to the above errors in judgment.
Thanks so much for taking the time to come by and comment. I lov
June 13th, 2011 7:58 AM
Never read the books and have been enjoying the series. However I may jump on the books instead...
My big problem here is that they are killing off the acting talent that has been the glue. There have been enough episodes to show that after Peter D. it gets really thin on people who can hold the screen.
If I were the producers I would be concerned about people like me who may not care as much anymore after the hiatus between season 1&2 is over. It just seems they are wasting brilliant casting moves.
June 13th, 2011 7:56 AM
Lots of spoilers here. Won't be back for another recap.
Rank: Guest Star
June 13th, 2011 4:21 AM
@pratik
Don't worry. I think the reviewer doesn't read all the books, maybe just first one. And Shae is not the most important woman in Tyrion's life, at least not in the book.
June 13th, 2011 4:19 AM
At this point, where bookverse and series verse are so muddled, you could probably lay up on the review for the microscopic slip. Dying's not instantaneous anyway, so you won't be that far off to say, "yeah, you started to die, but guess what, antibiotics..."?
Anyway, best episode yet. The only one done even close to properly. Why i kept watching it, even though the bookverse geek in me is screaming in agony. If they stuff book 2 in s01, they might stuff b2 and b3 in s02, so that might be better... or worse... I'll probably stop at this before the butchery resumes anyway, and reiterate some friendly advice to anyone watching this thinking to read the book after - DON'T. Unless you let years pass to wash away the muck of this 1.5 star adaptation.
Somehow, still better than Camelot...
June 13th, 2011 3:10 AM
I agree with Steve. Please no spoilers here. Like she is going to be the most important person in Tyrion's life. It is hard enough reading the book after already having seen most of season 1 as you know all the twists beforehand
Anyways did not see the ending coming. Glad that a major character died. But I hope that Geofferys head is on a spike very soon.
What i do want to know is the relation b/w the Lord of the Citadel, and Dany && Jorah is son of Lord Commander Mormont. I completely missed the second part. When was this told?
Rank: Guest Star
June 13th, 2011 2:28 AM
Drogo doesn't die just because of the simple infection. The witch has treated him with wrong meds, because she want the revenge for her village. So Drogo may not die if Dany didn't let the witch treat her. Ironically, I know.
Rank: New User
June 13th, 2011 12:22 AM
We are told in the episode that Drogo has a mortal wound and will die within a small number of hours. And then the blood magic starts.
The reviewer mispeaks when she says that "it was heartbreaking to watch Drogo die of a simple infection". That's not what happens in the episode (or in the book). If she had used the word "dying" instead of "die" it would be more accurate. The effect of the blood magic, if there is to be any, has yet to be seen.
It's worth watching next week.
Rank: New User
June 13th, 2011 12:19 AM
Ok, sorry HBO producers, I expected great things from this episode and you failed me. Not greatly, but you did fail me.
1. Where the heck are all the battle scenes portrayed so gloriously in the book? Tyrion actually fought and killed. He didn't take a nap (after taking the Hammer Pill) and woke up to see all had been done. He is better than that. Also, where are the battle scenes between Robb and the Kingslayer? Whatever improvements HBO made regarding the direwolves, they averted it all. Grey Wind fought like a beast in the book and pretty much won the battle for Robb in the book. I didn't even see a sight of him in this episode. Did HBO just run out of money or something? The Chinese don't do a lot of things right but the American HBO has a thing or two to learn from them regarding producing battle scenes.
2. I like that Shae is more than a whore in the serie. She is hot, has some cool accent, and has this sexy mystique about her that even I adore, let a lone a dwarf. Ok, alr
Rank: Extra
June 13th, 2011 12:07 AM
In the book Ned doesn't see Arya in the crowd. The man he sends is Yoren (not actually his man but the man from the Night's Watch which explains why he's still alive). In the book Yoren does the same thing he just doesn't do it at Ned's direction
Rank: Extra
June 13th, 2011 12:05 AM
Still, I don't want anyone who has read the books spoiling the rest of the season. The same thing about "Shae being the most significant person in Tyrion's life." I haven't seen that yet and have not had a chance to read it yet, so if you've read the book and are reviewing the episode, please do not go past where they are in the series.
June 12th, 2011 11:53 PM
He is obviously dying. And I know how he really dies and the author did not spoil that. Get your panties out of a wad.
June 12th, 2011 11:28 PM
We do not know that Drogo dies from episode 9. That question is left unanswered. All we know is that the witch is trying to save him. Thanks for the spoiler with no warning.