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Editor, agree totally about Kate; she was snarky and self righteous and did nothing but look down at Tony and question Gibbs. Ziva is a very unique character and adds so much to the dynamic of the team. I started watching the show via re-runs in season 5, and the first thing I noticed was that there were two females, and one was annoying and the other funny and engaging. I wouldn't even watch the Kate eps initially.
I also find it sad that some feel you are either a Tony/Gibbs fan, or Tony/Ziva. I love all the characters, and although Tony is my favorite, and I think Michael Weatherly and Mark Harmon are golden together, I adore Ziva and Tony/Ziva as well. I just love the show and enjoy watching and talking about all aspects of it. Too bad there's so much hate for certain characters and their fans.
hi editor hows it going loved your comment and yes ziva is here to stay.
NCIS is about a MCRT based out of DC which also (inaccurately) investigates murders. What need do they have for a "ninja"?
Sure, the team forgave Ziva... because she's a Mary Sue. "Aliyah" was basically a 45 minute pity party for Ziva despite her boytoy Rivkin completely deserving that two in the chest, and Tony being completely in the right to put them there. Ziva assaults (a crippled) Tony, pins him to the ground, and points a gun at his chest. You do not point guns at people for the hell of it, ever, even if they are unloaded and you know them to be unloaded. Ever. Pointing a loaded gun at your friend is WRONG in every way possible, especially for somebody who has received formal training.
She betrayed Gibbs' trust. And yet Tony, who saw his life flash before his eyes, and Gibbs, whose trust is extremely hard to gain and easy to lose, not only welcome her back with open arms but go on a suicide mission to rescue her? Riight.
Watch SWAK. Kate
I really like Ziva and think there must be more than a few of us. Kate was fine, sure. Off the top of my head, I can think of the pilot, Air Force One episode, the Marine recruiters getting sniped, and going to Gitmo as episodes I rewatch all the time that she was in )and wasn't she the one with McGee when there was a bomb on a car and Tony, with his authority as senior field agent, ordered them off so he could detontate it?) -- but there was also a lot of crap from her directed at Tony that I won't miss (and I especially didn't care for her in the episode when she's acting as Gibbs' bodyguard).
Tony and Ziva are more fun, especially scenes where Tony takes her along to beat up the henchman while he chases down their suspect or the one where they're bodyguardinga guy who later turns out was the bad guy and she tells him, when she always follows his orders, but here he obeys her instantly because they're partners and he trusts her, when she tells him to take the guy into the bathro
As has been said many many times, Sasha Alexander herself personally wanted OFF the show. I have read that she was thrilled that Donald Bellisario killed her off in such a dramatic way. She even did a guest appearance Season 3, Episode 1 to finish off her storyline. Kate was just hateful to Tony and IMO added very little to the show. She was like background to me. Didn't matter if she was in a scene or not. That some people are still upset about her leaving - shocks me. It was her choice to leave. I think it is more about hating Ziva than liking Kate.
On another note, and funnily enough, Ziva has been forgiven by Tony, NCIS and the whole Team many many years ago for holding a gun to him - but some fans just can't seem to move on as most of us have done. Funny that!
Perhaps catch Sasha on her new show - that might make you a little happier.
Because, she isn't coming back to NCIS.
Ziva is staying - thank goodness !
ziva the ninja
Just remember the only reason Ziva was brought on the show was to flirt with Tony and be his (Jenny) but we the fans saw right throw it beside she add nothing to the team.
Tony the Cop
Gibbs does the hand to hand fighting
Mcgee the computer nerd
Kate was the profiler
Paul was even better then Ziva they should of keep her
hi maka i agree with you when you said swak was one of the best episodes and kate shone in that episode but she decided to leave NCIS to get married thats when ziva came in and she is doing a great job in my opinion.
I like Ziva and I always will I agree she has more episodes about her but I still like her.
yes she wasn't on for two season but she fits in with the cast after words Sasha wanted to leave the show. I like Zivabetter just something about her that's just my opintion and some people may not agree and thats cool too.
Michael was great In SWAK I felt bad for Tony almost dying and Kate stayed with him that was the only episode I really Liked her in
Actually, Janet, the show worked rather well without Ziva for two years. And then the PTB brutally killed off Kate out of spite.
I've yet to see an episode equal SWAK in terms of the team's affection for each other. These days, the show's dramatic punch comes largely from stellar acting by Mark Harmon and Mike Weatherly, and Tony's continuing character development is great to watch. But as for Ziva, after "Aliyah" and the disaster that was, I honestly couldn't care less about her. For assaulting a United States federal law enforcement officer with a deadly weapon she should have been shipped back to Israel and left to stay there.
dont know why some people dont like ziva without her it just wouldnt work.
Yeah... Ziva's not a multifaceted character. What she is is either horrendously emotionally immature for her particular skillset (that is, killing people), or the writing on her has done a complete 180. She may or may not have sociopathic tendencies (her reaction to CIRay, who basically does her old job with less guns, displayed an alarming lack of understanding and empathy, to say the least). She's horrendously violent for the worst reasons. And she gets away with all of it, which is the worst part. I was pissed as hell when Team Gibbs let her back in with essentially open arms, or that Aliyah implied that Rivkin's death was Tony's fault (can't get a more clear cut good kill than Tony putting a couple into Rivkin's center mass). I miss Kate. Rizzoli and Isles? We can share, right?
@CG most show use the same story in face Law and Order got it from the FBI show without A Trace
I too hope that we will at some point find out what happened to EJ. I liked her character more and more. She has spunk, personality, and SJM is a good actress. I enjoyed Restless, although not as much as Nature of the Beast. I think that in actuality, Tony is one of the more grown up team members. Yes, he jokes around and lightens the mood, but when it counts, he is all business. Although I love GIbbs, he is sometimes petulant, controlling, and unreasonably demanding. Ziva chides others for things that she does herself, doesn't respect Tony's personal space, and has self control issues. I see the changes in Tony more as him evolving into someone who is beginning to deal with a difficult past, rather than repress it. I hope he keeps his sense of humor, but grows in confidence as he deals with his past.
Wish that NCIS writers had a more original central theme. The part of a young girl repeating her high school years was used several years ago on Law & Order SVU. That part of the Restless story is almost identical!
Come on writers, BE ORIGINAL!
Maybe it's because I get his character but Tony's feelings in this episode weren't new. I hate the use of the term 'maturing' when describing him in this because it implies that he isnt mature. I think what we're seeing is Tony more vulnerable and open. He's a very complex character who uses humor as a coping and defense mechanism because he doesnt like to let people in...he's always been tormented and reflective...its just he used to hide it more and most people (fans and other charactrs) only looked at him on the surface and classified him as a goof. This Tony has always been there to me it's just more apparent now...so it surprises me that people are so surprised by it. He's a multi-faceted character (just like Gibbs and Ziva).
I thought the case was interesting and sad and uplifting all at once. I was weirded out by the foster dad at first,he seemed too protective. I love how Palmer is gradually becming a mini-Ducky. Loved Abbys pic (which was her real homecoming dress). I just
We can assume that EJ's still alive, since PHANTOM EIGHT has yet to confirm the kill. She's probably under the protection of some other government agency, like the CIA. Frankly, I can't wait till she comes back. I liked Kate, I liked Paula, and EJ's been one of my favorite recurring characters as of yet.
I liked the episode.
LOVED the episode and wish we could see it a couple more times this week! I'm used to being able to catch it again when I want on DVD. It is possible to download an episode from iTunes for $2.99, which is easier to take than shelling out $50 all at once for the DVD set.
I found the foster father's beligerance beyond protective of his foster daughter, going all the way to "major suspect." His character was thus confusing to me and all over the emotional map. The typical NCIS major suspect is more subtle with lots of question marks.
The more mature DiNozzo is a pleasant twist and I totally agree that we don't want to lose him entirely as the class clown. Balance. I always loved Ziva's toughness, but I still think that she lost her edge when she became a naturalized citizen. Her whole demeanor changed. Bland. She changed from an intense, aggressive Mossad agent, to a go-fer, to a probie. This degradation diminished her punch if not her aim. She was who she was, and now she isn't a
One of my favourite scense was when Ziva walked McGee away from that group that was mocking him. Very cute!
Maka - I do believe that ej is long gone - never to be seen again - so you shouldn't wish for her return. Thank goodness
@Sue Ann - thanks for pointing out Palmer's rule #1, that was great!
Compare to last season 2nd epsoide these was way better and Just a FYI they didnt steal from SVU these was base off of a real case in Richmond Virgina
tony wouldnt be tony if he grew up to much.as for episode2 it was alright not one of the episodes you can watch over again not a good choice for the begining of a season should of been better.of course thats just my opinion.
I thought it was a great episode. I love Ducky and Palmer's new scrubs. They look great. Gibbs again, is the father figure for Tony. I love NCIS. It is the best show on TV.
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