The Secret Circle Round Table: "Wake"

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Was Jake Armstrong a welcome addition to The Secret Circle? Will happen with Cassie and her crystal? What about Cassie and Adam?

In the following edition of the TV Fanatic Round Table, senior staff members Matt Richenthal, Eric Hochberger and Steve Marsi delve into the latest episode of this CW thriller. Sidle up and chime in...

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What was your favorite scene from the episode?
Matt: When the credits rolled? Sorry, that's extreme. But this episode was especially slow, which is a backward compliment at least: I've come to expect a lot more!

Eric: Well, this episode definitely lacked some of the scary, dark elements that made me fall in love with it over the last two weeks. So I guess the closest thing was Simone hiding in the shadows. Weak sauce, comparatively.

Steve: Matt alluded to this in his review, but the overall honesty of Diana. Her reasons for dumping Adam were pure and, heck, she even went over and spilled her heart-broken guts to Cassie. It's an unusual, welcome surprise to have such raw emotion on a teen soap opera. Might Diana really be this straightforward of a person? Or she hiding something still?

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What was your first impression of Jake?
Matt: Not good. Let's just say it made me miss Marissa on The OC, which is an old reference, but an appropriate one. I just don't care for him. (However, I can put a positive spin on it: I'm intrigued by the concept of witch hunters in general. Just not this one in particular.)

Eric: A walking bore and a very sad replacement for Nick. Not that Nick was that developed, but he was far less stiff and robotic as an actor. It probably didn't help that he had freakiishly flawless skin caked on with makeup. Speaking of a lack of scary scenes, that might have been the scariest part of the episode.

Steve: Give the guy a break, fellas. We aren't meant to like him at the moment. Was he a bit stiff? Yes. But maybe that's more of the character being guarded and he'll become more natural as he becomes more comfortable with those around him. You know, before he tries to kill them.

Should Cassie and Adam start dating now?
Matt: No. That would just be insensitive to Diana. A little bit of making out on the down low, though? Sure, go for it, kids!

Eric: This early on? No way. Unless you want them to break up in a few episodes. We need the classic will-they-or-won't-they that has made me a TV Fanatic since I first met Ross and Rachel.

Steve: Yes. That would only be fair to Diana. As we've discussed, considering how honest she has been with Adam and Cassie, they should show her the same respect and be open with their feelings.

More likely to occur: Charles confesses that he killed Nick, someone learns Cassie has her crystal or Faye has another mental breakdown?
Matt: This may be more of what I want to occur in the near future, but going with Charles reaching a breaking point. The relationship between him and Dawn is getting more precarious by the week and I can picture him actually confessing to Ethan at some point and really stirring this older generation pot.

Eric: Easily someone learning Cassie has the crystal. Silly girl just held it out as she used it. It's a freaking prized, hidden possession you can use buried as long as you're touching, not a damn gun you gotta point. Keep it in your damn pocket as you use it. 

Steve: Isn't Faye a perpetual, walking, talking mental breakdown? I agree with Eric. Cassie is not taking good care of that crystal.

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Um no. Adam should not date cassie immediately. He has feelings for Diana just not the same feelings he has for Cassie. So to honour his past relationship he should be restrained. also will add to the tension and build up. But Jake should totes make a move on Cassie, taking adam up to burning point. What? its dramatic. Jake was not well cast. someone fell for a pretty face huh? Cassie's crystal is totes in danger. she needs to turn it into a key ring.

Tvjunkie

1. Favorite scene was definitely when Diana broke up with Adam. You felt the girl's pain and I jut appreciated the honesty of the entire situation. It's a really different thing to see something like this on a show involving teenagers. I liked how Diana was straightforward about it and I liked how this showed how the character valued herself enough that she wasn't going to push the relationship further. You could tell it was hard for her to do but the honesty she exhibited to both Adam and Cassie was great to see. 2. Bad news. Throughout the episode he attempted to portray the mysterious guy with all these unknown secrets about where he's been and what his intentions are so you kind of respond to that portrayal. But over-all, the character lacked an impact to make people really care about him. Although the episode was centered on his arrival, there was really something lacking with him. There was a sense of redemption at the end but it still wasn't enough for me. Just the beginning of this character though so we'll see how he is in the rest. 3. For me, definitely not. I was led to believe since the Pilot that these two are destined to be together but if they were to start dating already, it would be completely out of character for the both of them. The last time we saw Adam he was still holding onto his relationship with Diana so there's still a strong sense of commitment there. He's been attracted to Cassie but all this time he really showed his devotion to Diana so I can't imagine him going to Cassie right away when he didn't even want things to end with Diana. As for Cassie, she's been fighting the attraction between her and Adam since the beginning especially because of her friendship with Diana. She values that so I don't think she'd date him right away. 4. People finding out Cassie has that crystal, for sure. Jake was already suspicious of the magic that happened when that knife was taken away so the suspicions will probably just escalate. Charles will probably break but that will be nothing compared to the stakes that will be raised when they realize Cassie has a crystal. The value of it was explained and the use of it for Dawn and Charles' plan was stated. She isn't exactly very careful about it so you know that it'll play into something big eventually.

Yougotmyreflection

What was your first impression of Jake?
hes actually quite cute, hes obviously guna be a good guy. Should Cassie and Adam start dating now?
Hes just split with Diana? its hardly fair. More likely to occur: Charles confesses that he killed Nick, someone learns Cassie has her crystal or Faye has another mental breakdown?
ALL OF THEM! charles looks like hes about to crack though.

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i heard that another guy would come to town!! don't ruin the show with a bunch of stud-muffins sans personality!! try to focus on the circle, witchcraft and other scary, dark stories behind it!! just prove you deserve a full season, plz!!

Saad702

1. Favorite scene was the Melissa/ Faye scene when they hug, at least two of the six are not fighting and keeping secrets. I also liked how Melissa of late, because even though she lost nick, she seems to be the only one who has everything together. 2. I don't care much for the actor that plays Jake than the character himself. He didn't do a very good portrayal of the character that the writers wrote. Like I said before, he's a model turned actor so I wasn't expecting much and it can only change for the better. (I hope) Jake was never part of the original book so its not like we know how and what to expect. From what I see, he is just a boy trying to exact revenge on the death of his parents. But he doesn't know what happened to his parents, no one does except for Charles and Dawn. 3. No I don't think they should date at all. Not until maybe season 2. It would throw the whole coven into even more chaos. I actually want them to unite. 4. Dawn would never let Charles confess, she would kill him sooner than allow that. That I would love to see. lol.
Most likely it would be that Cassie uses her crystal and Jake sees it or she tells a distraught Diana about it who uses it to create a spell that makes Adam forget about his feelings for Cassie. (how's that for a theory?) I would liked there to be a discussion about the Gullibility of Jane. Does she actually believe Dawn knew nothing about the Circle? Surely she is smarter than that?

Blu

1. Hmmm...maybe the way Diana learned about the "destined fated stars thing" and how she handled it. I too love that they have this girl, and many of them handle things in a relatively mature, honest, open way. I was never one of those teens like they often display on tv. The ones of a cliched vibe, so it's refreshing and reassuring to see teens with sense. I can look at them and say that was how I would have handled it back then...or even now. So thank the Secret Circle and a special shoutout to my girl Alexis Castle on Castle for showing a broader range of real teens out there. I only wish they were around a few years ago. 2.I liked Jake. Now, I do miss Nick and the fact that he was deprived of character development and I'm still all jumbled up inside over him being killed off. I like Jake though. He has promise as a character. He has that complexity as a character that the other teens don't have as of yet. He's kind of of TVD quality. He can really stir things up and make them interesting.He seems mysterious and enigmatic. I think he nailed the portrayal of his character quicker and better than say Adam or Nick did and he's elicited strong feelings and a presence that took Melissa a bit to get to. I also like the almost inevitable and somewhat subtle love pentagon that will make the relationships on here more tension filled. Despite his duties, he seems to have responded, connected, and like Cassie, despite screwing over Faye and pissing off Adam. So far we have Faye still fawning over Jake who may be kind of into Cassie who is destined to be with Adam who is trying not to be attracted to her and maintain his relationship with Diana who has become best friends with Cassie. That is some intense stuff. I kinda like it. 3. Eek! No! That is so tacky and horrid! I don't think either of them are even considering a notion. I do like that they acknowledge that they are attracted to each other but they both fight it and are determined to not ruin their friendship with each other or anyone else.It's out there in the open and they are very honest about it. It's really mature and refreshing. They have a long way to go before either of them would even consider it. I don't see that going anywhere anytime soon and I'm so fine with that. 4.Cassie and that damn crystal. She was waving that thing around like nobody's business. She really should be more careful. That's inevitable...for this to be the Secret Circle that secret is gonna come out soon. I'm willing to bet Faye will have something to do with it too.

Uncle-jackass

Damn scripts destroyed my scale!!

Uncle-jackass

1.) Fav Scene? MTV cross-over of the Were hunters to Witch hunters. Well, it is the GFC, pickers can't be choosers on a CV. 2.) Jake, hit or miss? I thought it was on-par with Adam and Cassie chemistry. But on this made-up CW scale:

| Paul, Ian (TVD)|
| Chace, Ed (GG)| |
| Jar & Jens(Sup) | |
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| 0 5 10|
Where do you place people that fit so perfectly for their roles? (Exclude Smallville as that too had near perfect casting). 3.) Cassie and Adam dating? Only if the celestial moon aligns with my inner bowels. 4.) Agreed with @Steve, Faye in mentally normal. Cassie holding the crystal also seems normal given the size of it on her petite hands. Of course, I worry about Charles, he is too good of character to go insane.

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In all honesty, I think a good excuse as to why Cassie held the crystal out like that was because if you recall in the previous episode, she saw her Grandmother hold out the crystal when she was using it too. At least, that's how I'm seeing it. But I agree, hopefully she learns to quick to keep that think hidden when using it. I agree though, cut Jake some slack. We've only seen him in one episode so far. In "Masked" he seems to break loose a bit from his dark, mysterious, and stiff introduction. I can't wait to see this episode! Halloween, Witches, Hunters? AWESOME.

Fortyseven

1. Diana's honesty
2. I agree with Steve.
3. No
4. Someone learns Cassie has a crysal.

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