The Secret Circle Round Table: "Wake"
Was Jake Armstrong a welcome addition to The Secret Circle? Will happen with Cassie and her crystal? What about Cassie and Adam?
In the following edition of the TV Fanatic Round Table, senior staff members Matt Richenthal, Eric Hochberger and Steve Marsi delve into the latest episode of this CW thriller. Sidle up and chime in...
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What was your favorite scene from the episode?
Matt: When the credits rolled? Sorry, that's extreme. But this episode was especially slow, which is a backward compliment at least: I've come to expect a lot more!
Eric: Well, this episode definitely lacked some of the scary, dark elements that made me fall in love with it over the last two weeks. So I guess the closest thing was Simone hiding in the shadows. Weak sauce, comparatively.
Steve: Matt alluded to this in his review, but the overall honesty of Diana. Her reasons for dumping Adam were pure and, heck, she even went over and spilled her heart-broken guts to Cassie. It's an unusual, welcome surprise to have such raw emotion on a teen soap opera. Might Diana really be this straightforward of a person? Or she hiding something still?
What was your first impression of Jake?
Matt: Not good. Let's just say it made me miss Marissa on The OC, which is an old reference, but an appropriate one. I just don't care for him. (However, I can put a positive spin on it: I'm intrigued by the concept of witch hunters in general. Just not this one in particular.)
Eric: A walking bore and a very sad replacement for Nick. Not that Nick was that developed, but he was far less stiff and robotic as an actor. It probably didn't help that he had freakiishly flawless skin caked on with makeup. Speaking of a lack of scary scenes, that might have been the scariest part of the episode.
Steve: Give the guy a break, fellas. We aren't meant to like him at the moment. Was he a bit stiff? Yes. But maybe that's more of the character being guarded and he'll become more natural as he becomes more comfortable with those around him. You know, before he tries to kill them.
Should Cassie and Adam start dating now?
Matt: No. That would just be insensitive to Diana. A little bit of making out on the down low, though? Sure, go for it, kids!
Eric: This early on? No way. Unless you want them to break up in a few episodes. We need the classic will-they-or-won't-they that has made me a TV Fanatic since I first met Ross and Rachel.
Steve: Yes. That would only be fair to Diana. As we've discussed, considering how honest she has been with Adam and Cassie, they should show her the same respect and be open with their feelings.
More likely to occur: Charles confesses that he killed Nick, someone learns Cassie has her crystal or Faye has another mental breakdown?
Matt: This may be more of what I want to occur in the near future, but going with Charles reaching a breaking point. The relationship between him and Dawn is getting more precarious by the week and I can picture him actually confessing to Ethan at some point and really stirring this older generation pot.
Eric: Easily someone learning Cassie has the crystal. Silly girl just held it out as she used it. It's a freaking prized, hidden possession you can use buried as long as you're touching, not a damn gun you gotta point. Keep it in your damn pocket as you use it.
Steve: Isn't Faye a perpetual, walking, talking mental breakdown? I agree with Eric. Cassie is not taking good care of that crystal.
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October 27th, 2011 12:02 PM
Um no. Adam should not date cassie immediately. He has feelings for Diana just not the same feelings he has for Cassie. So to honour his past relationship he should be restrained.
also will add to the tension and build up.
But Jake should totes make a move on Cassie, taking adam up to burning point. What? its dramatic.
Jake was not well cast. someone fell for a pretty face huh?
Cassie's crystal is totes in danger. she needs to turn it into a key ring.
Rank: Regular Character
October 25th, 2011 9:48 AM
1. Favorite scene was definitely when Diana broke up with Adam. You felt the girl's pain and I jut appreciated the honesty of the entire situation. It's a really different thing to see something like this on a show involving teenagers. I liked how Diana was straightforward about it and I liked how this showed how the character valued herself enough that she wasn't going to push the relationship further. You could tell it was hard for her to do but the honesty she exhibited to both Adam and Cassie was great to see.
2. Bad news. Throughout the episode he attempted to portray the mysterious guy with all these unknown secrets about where he's been and what his intentions are so you kind of respond to that portrayal. But over-all, the character lacked an impact to make people really care about him. Although the episode was centered on his arrival, there was really something lacking with him. There was a sense of redemption at the end but it still wasn't enough for me. Just the beginning
Rank: Recurring Character
October 25th, 2011 7:59 AM
What was your first impression of Jake?
hes actually quite cute, hes obviously guna be a good guy.
Should Cassie and Adam start dating now?
Hes just split with Diana? its hardly fair.
More likely to occur: Charles confesses that he killed Nick, someone learns Cassie has her crystal or Faye has another mental breakdown?
ALL OF THEM! charles looks like hes about to crack though.
Rank: Extra
October 25th, 2011 4:13 AM
i heard that another guy would come to town!! don't ruin the show with a bunch of stud-muffins sans personality!! try to focus on the circle, witchcraft and other scary, dark stories behind it!! just prove you deserve a full season, plz!!
Rank: Regular Character
October 25th, 2011 2:06 AM
1. Favorite scene was the Melissa/ Faye scene when they hug, at least two of the six are not fighting and keeping secrets. I also liked how Melissa of late, because even though she lost nick, she seems to be the only one who has everything together.
2. I don't care much for the actor that plays Jake than the character himself. He didn't do a very good portrayal of the character that the writers wrote. Like I said before, he's a model turned actor so I wasn't expecting much and it can only change for the better. (I hope) Jake was never part of the original book so its not like we know how and what to expect. From what I see, he is just a boy trying to exact revenge on the death of his parents. But he doesn't know what happened to his parents, no one does except for Charles and Dawn.
3. No I don't think they should date at all. Not until maybe season 2. It would throw the whole coven into even more chaos. I actually want them to unite.
4. Dawn would never let Charles confess,
Rank: Regular Character
October 24th, 2011 10:17 PM
1. Hmmm...maybe the way Diana learned about the "destined fated stars thing" and how she handled it. I too love that they have this girl, and many of them handle things in a relatively mature, honest, open way. I was never one of those teens like they often display on tv. The ones of a cliched vibe, so it's refreshing and reassuring to see teens with sense. I can look at them and say that was how I would have handled it back then...or even now. So thank the Secret Circle and a special shoutout to my girl Alexis Castle on Castle for showing a broader range of real teens out there. I only wish they were around a few years ago.
2.I liked Jake. Now, I do miss Nick and the fact that he was deprived of character development and I'm still all jumbled up inside over him being killed off. I like Jake though. He has promise as a character. He has that complexity as a character that the other teens don't have as of yet. He's kind of of TVD quality. He can really stir things up and make them in
Rank: Regular Character
October 24th, 2011 7:12 PM
Damn scripts destroyed my scale!!
Rank: Regular Character
October 24th, 2011 7:11 PM
1.) Fav Scene? MTV cross-over of the Were hunters to Witch hunters. Well, it is the GFC, pickers can't be choosers on a CV.
2.) Jake, hit or miss? I thought it was on-par with Adam and Cassie chemistry.
But on this made-up CW scale:
| Paul, Ian (TVD)|
| Chace, Ed (GG)| |
| Jar & Jens(Sup) | |
|-----------------------------------------------|------------|-|
| 0 5 10|
Where do you place people that fit so perfectly for their roles? (Exclude Smallville as that too had near perfect casting).
3.) Cassie and Adam dating? Only if the celestial moon aligns with my inner bowels.
4.) Agreed with @Steve, Faye in mentally normal. Cassie holding the crystal also seems normal given the size of it on her petite hands. Of course, I worry about Charles, he is too good of ch
October 24th, 2011 5:23 PM
In all honesty, I think a good excuse as to why Cassie held the crystal out like that was because if you recall in the previous episode, she saw her Grandmother hold out the crystal when she was using it too. At least, that's how I'm seeing it. But I agree, hopefully she learns to quick to keep that think hidden when using it.
I agree though, cut Jake some slack. We've only seen him in one episode so far. In "Masked" he seems to break loose a bit from his dark, mysterious, and stiff introduction. I can't wait to see this episode! Halloween, Witches, Hunters? AWESOME.
Rank: Regular Character
October 24th, 2011 5:05 PM
1. Diana's honesty
2. I agree with Steve.
3. No
4. Someone learns Cassie has a crysal.