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Gossip Girl Round Table: "The Big Sleep No More"

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Welcome to our weekly Gossip Girl Round Table discussion! Below, our panel breaks down the most recent episode (see our official review from last night) of our favorite show in even greater detail.

Below, TVF CEO Eric Hochberger (Gossip Guy) and managing editor Steve Marsi (Mister Meester) join writers Courtney Morrison, Christina Tran and Leigh Raines to discuss "The Big Sleep No More."

Weigh in with your take on the following topics after reading ours!

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1. What was your favorite quote from the episode?

Courtney: I have to go with Gossip Girl’s headline on this one ... ”Nate Archibald’s Cougar and Cub in Pride War.” Classic GG. Even if she is a blogger who blasts other people, the girl is clever and has a serious way with words.

Christina: Chuck: “Maybe we’re maturing too fast.” Oh, the irony. While Nate's still always thinking about cubs and cougars, and Blair can't let go of her dire need to play games, we're all still kind of kids at heart, I suppose.

Leigh: Everything between Dorota and Blair in the beginning. Dorota: Apology not seem so fake to me. Blair: That's because English is your second language. Oh please Blair, Dorota is the TRUTH.

Steve: LOL @ Leigh. I got nothin'.

Eric: Less of a single quote and more of the entire exchange between Chair at the masquerade. Yeah, even as a Dair shipper, I can recognize the sexual tension Steve wanted to cut with a knife in his review.

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2. What did you like most about "The Big Sleep No More"?

Courtney: Like Christina mentioned, how can you not love a Queen B scheme, especially when it involves Venn Diagrams. I agree with the majority that the Blair scheme was a little over the top, even for B. But it gave some more screen time to Dorota and got the two down to the duck pond. Not everything on the show has to be glitz and glamour. Sometimes it’s the simple moments that are the most enjoyable.

Christina: From Venn diagrams to trench coats, I’m always down for some scheming. Albeit the plotting was a little more outrageous than usual (if that’s even possible), this is why I love the UES.

Leigh: The show finally sampled my favorite Audrey Hepburn movie, Sabrina. Chuck as Humphrey Bogart, I dig it. And before the haters get up in arms, Bogart was allegedly a d-bag in real life. So there, it works for the lovers and the haters.

Steve: A bunch of things. The "B to Pardon C" title card. Serena's outfits. Louis not being around. Animal-loving Chuck is a crowd-pleaser. Dan going through some hard times after his brush was greatness (I wish him the best, but success doesn't come easy, as Rufus said). Christina also nailed with the Chuck Bass Venn diagram. Blair needs to make those for all the characters.

Eric: That Dorota was scheming with Chuck. Hah! Believable? No. But this is Gossip Girl and you must suspend any disbelief when it comes to scheming. Besides, any Dorota is a good thing.

3. What were you most disappointed by?

Courtney: After all of the hype, I was a little disappointed by the Sleep No More benefit itself. From all the press about this episode, I expected a little more. We have seen better parties at the Waldorf’s. The scenery was gorgeous though.

Christina: I thought that the kiss and slap scene was a total letdown. Plus, did Blair really need to go to the extremes to prove Chuck is the same basstard he has always been? Did Chuck honestly need to kiss Blair to set her free? All in all, the Chair scenes were kind of lame.

Leigh: Um, everything else? Sleep No More is far more disturbing and messed up in real life. It was hardly a masked ball. Even though they filmed on location that whole scene was lame-o. Blair is twisted, but her need to prove Chuck is a bad person was beyond convoluted this week.

Steve: The CW cutting to commercial break in mid-Chair kiss. I mean really. The scene was far too short anyway, then they throw in 2-3 minutes of ads, derailing the momentum? Who edits this stuff?

Eric: That this show became the Diana and Chivy hour. Look, I've had the biggest crush on Elizabeth Hurley since, well, ever. But as unbelievably gorgeous as she still is at this age, she should not be dominating Gossip Girl. Notice how little I said about Chivy... 

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4. Has Chuck really changed for good?

Courtney: Yes and no. Yes because he has realized being good is better for him. He is a better functioning person and isn’t hiding behind grief and insecurities. No because there is a piece of him doing this for Blair and he knows that deep down this is how he can get her back. Even on his good days, he will forever be a Basshole.

Christina: It appears that way, doesn’t it? Chuck’s finally let Blair go and he hasn’t been up to his usual antics. Make no mistake, though, I still more than ever think that Chair is end-game.

Leigh: Chuck has definitely changed. But the only constant in life is change. I'm sure he will take make different turns in the future, only time will tell.

Steve: In the sense that he's no longer a self-destructive, reckless heathen? I'll buy it. But there's no way he's letting this wedding happen without one last profession of love for B.

Eric: Well, no. As much as I'm sure he loves ducks (the animal, not the greatest bromance the show has ever seen), he's doing all of this to win back Blair.

5. Hardest to believe: Diana's manipulation of Nate and Serena, Ivy kissing Max unknowingly, or the lengths Blair went to to prove her "point"?

Courtney: Diana, no doubt. Even people as gullible and pretty as Nate and Serena aren’t completely blinded to manipulation. That whole situation just worked out too perfect to be believable. The Ivy kissing Max scene was more funny than anything and Blair’s is believable because she still cares about Chuck.

Christina: Ivy kissing Max unknowingly – only on Gossip Girl does a simple mask have as much power as to cause you to mistakenly identify two totally different looking people. Hello, Max and Nate look NOTHING alike.

Leigh: Ivy kissing Max. We all know how easy it is to trick Serena and Nate. Blair is a known lunatic schemer. But how could you mistake somebody as Chace Crawford? He radiates an aura of sexiness.

Steve: Blair seemed a bit desperate to expose Chuck, don't you think? I don't blame her for being suspicious, but she blatantly baited him to make a move. How does that really prove anything?

Eric: Definitely Diana's manipulation. Not because she did a battle of wits with the two dumbest characters on the show. I mean, that's easy. The real hardest to believe part was Chivy confusing Max for Nate. That was almost as bad as the time Nate confused Jenny for Serena ...

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6. The Grandfather wants to rehabilitate Nate's image, but there must be more to it. What's his motive in all of this?

Courtney: The simplest conclusion is he wants him to head in to politics like the rest of the family. But how can ping pong-ing between a cougar and a cub be good for his image? My question is, what was so wrong with his image before? Sure, he was simple, pretty, and high most of the time. But he wasn’t a bad person.

Christina: Nate’s grandfather wants to mold Nate's image and get him to the political party.

Leigh: The Grandfather wants to groom Nate into the next JFK Jr. However, I don't see how banging a cougar and working for a tabloid makes someone the next John John.

Steve: To resurrect Trip's political career. He doesn't need Nate's image to be refurbished for that, you're thinking, and you're right. What he needs is leverage, something to get his grandson to fall in line. The question is what. Just a theory, but Diana could be getting played here too.

Eric: The far, far more important question is how the heck is this rehabilitating Nate's image!? And to that, I have no answer and will be watching just as cluelessly as you guys next week.

7. What's your favorite Gossip Girl masquerade moment (from this episode or any other)?

Courtney: I’m going with the girls. Season 1 was untouchable in terms of masquerades. It was our first - the first time someone got kissed mistakenly, a Chair scene, and beautiful wardrobes.

Christina: How could we possibly forget our very first masquerade, with Nate mistakenly kissing Jenny thinking it was Serena, Dan and Jenny sneaking in as outsiders, and Blair’s scavenger hunt?! Season 1, how I miss thee!

Leigh: Serena getting roofied was an amazing episode, but I'm gonna have to go with the classic. I agree with Christina that Season 1 was the best when Nate mistook Jenna for Serena and confessed his love and then she lost her diamond bracelet. Season 1 was epic.

Steve: I loved when Juliet drugged and freaking kidnapped Serena last season. Not because Serena deserved to be drugged and kidnapped, but because Juliet had a tangible motive (revenge, it never fails), executed her plan flawlessly, and proved she was far more insane than any of us believed. Last night felt blah in comparison.

Eric: I guess I jumped the gun with question #5 back there. I always find it a hilarious / ridiculous schtick when they have a character kiss the wrong masked person. Jenny, Juliet, Max. You pick the target. I'll keep laughing in disbelief.

What do you think? Sound off in the comments!

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I agree with most of leigh's answers :) Loved the shout out to Sabrina as its my fav audrey hepburn movie!!
Anaway I enjoyed the episode even with its flaws.

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I really enjoyed this episode love Ivy/Charlie and Nate chemistry. Dorota and Blair are always entertaining together. I am also very glad that Chuck is letting Blair go or at least trying. Totally done with the back and fourth between the two and hope the have both learned that they are completely toxic for each other. Felt bad for Dan he seems so lost :{ hope he snaps out of it soon but by the looks of next weeks preview he aint happening..

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I am worry about this show, so much publicity about this episode and was SOooo boring, even serena is so bored that can't write about herself and ... No one cares , no one reads her... And Blair dresses ... Uhhgg, I remember jennifer aniston in friends in that pregnant period... Please burn those dresses, unfortunantlyseen the promo
pics from next episodes this will get worse...this show need to be kill before get worse, ohhh I miss Juliet , she should cone back and make team with georgina and take gg to some REVENGE type of evil inteligence

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it wasnt needed - why did blair have to prove anything. she should have jus accepted it,it's not like it matters whether or not if it was real or not. she is nearly marrying louis, its silly that shes having second guesses at this time. and by her saying "this jus proves i made the right choice" it means shes basing her relationship on bass's actions instead of her own. but total chair fan - jus eeds another more romantic dramatic way to get the back together.
maybe it could have been like, she has an intimate conversation with chuck outside the empire at night, tells him that she is marrying louis officially, loves him etc. of course bass is sad what not, as she leaves in a taxi, some accident occurs at the intersection. bass runs to save her - this could also eliminate the baby of hers as i really doubt they would carry the child into next season. it could also allow a chance for chair to get close again and postpone wedding - but its just my opinion, it may be too over dramatic for this show.

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Charley/Ivy is HORRIBLE, yuck. Atleast get someone who CAN act. Loved Chair and Dorota. I also adore Dan and Nate, the latter males me love Serena :)

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1. anything that comes out of dorotas mouth!
2. that chuck and dorota were in cahoots and that william and diana are in cahoots! oh! and who could forget that serena hit on her first guest star this season! YAY
3. that chivy kissed nate EW. but i really am mad that this show is now the chivy and diana show, 2 characters who i could care less for and who are mega boring. i loved when the show was about the main 4, serena, nate, blair and chuck. i could tolerate it when it was the blair and chuck show but now?!?! NO WAY i almost wish jenny and vanessa were back.
4. i think so but then again he did change for good in the beginning of season 4 and look how that turned out... i do hope that he gets to a point where he is good enough for blair!
5. All of the above. i know nate and serena are dumb but really? and blair WHAT was she doing?!?! she almost turned phsyco, i don't like the new blair at all. and how could you ever mistake anyone for nate/Chace Crawford?!?!?!
6. i def. think he wants serena and nate back together! i mean why else would he make diana hire nate AND serena. and he wants to rebuild nates image? duhhhhh serena! maybe thats just the hardcore serenate shipper in me but i do think it could happpen! maybe
7. when nate confessed his feeling for serena to her(jenny)! it made me sooo excited. although the serena getting drugged was pretty good too.

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I liked this episode and I'm happy that you guys are not as hard in your comments as some fans on this website. Of course there are a lot of negative things that could be said about this episode, but there were a lot of good things too. I really enjoyed watching it. People always criticise newcomers (Ivy, Diana, etc...), but if it was only about Serena, Nate, Chuck and Blair, it would lost its charm as well. I like Ivy for example, more than I thought I would last season. And ok yesterday was a bit too much about Diana... Let's say writers just need to find a good balance. The best character yesterday: Dorota! I love how she interacted with Blair and then Chuck, saying thank you to him at the end. It's like she can see what Blair cannot because she's in full denial mode about her feelings. But it's obvious: Queen B's heart will always belong to Bass. I'm looking forward to the next episode.

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Watching Blair trying to seduce Chuck was painful. I love Chair and want them to be together but Steve, that commercial could have cut her off much sooner. Like when she said "Oh, look, they even have redhots!"

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This has got to be the worst episode so far in this season.
I began with having high hopes for the episode because like other Chair Fans I thought we would finally get to see a rekindling between Chuck and Blair...that was clearly not the case.
From the beginning, Charlie and Nate…no one cares! These two are boring, pointless and boring! Why was this episode centered around them more than any other characters on the show? I am really sick of Diana now because she seems to be everywhere and control everyone which I seriously doubt she can accomplish that on her own. I watch Gossip Girl for drama and scandal, not to be put to sleep. This is exactly what will happen if the Nate gets more screen time and the whole Archibald clan comes back. Enough. Charlie/Ivy leave! Diana, get the hell out! Nate, go to therapy because you seriously need some. Some of the dialogue was ridicules. Nothing was funny about them. I was just rolling my eyes every time one of them came onto the screen. I was playing angry bird by the end.
Anyone else notice that Serena has seriously been lacking this episode? She has become the Nate from last season or something. Seriously, does she still have that job? Is she still in school? What is going on with her? I rather have more of her than Charlie.
Dan you are a failure. I’m sorry but that book was a pointless storyline. I was seriously hoping I did not need to see his face at all this episode. Unfortunately he was in it so that was another thing that made this episode worst. So what, Dan is going to start spiraling downhill now because he has finally realize what we already know if him? Ugh, seriously how annoying can this guy get?
Now onto Chair…
So last episode when Blair looked like she genuinely believed his apology, all of a sudden she has one wet dream of him and now she starts questioning his motives? That is very unrealistic. What I am even angrier at is that, the duration of the kiss in the actual episode was the same as when it was in the Canadian promo. Are you kidding? Chair is not like Dair because when they kiss it is not gross, so we want to see it last. This is a huge disappointment. This episode only showed that it will be even longer before we see our epic Chair reunion because now Blair truly is focused on the wedding and Chuck has no intentions of breaking up the engagement (yet).
Even the party, as unique as it was, was very confusing.
Throughout this episode I was very confused by what the characters were talking about and just how it ended in general. It was certainly not how I want it to end. It left me too pissed off to even think about wanting to see more.
Again this was a very bad episode in my opinion.

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I LOVED THIS EPISODE SO BAD AN I LOVE SEEING IVY/CHARLIE STOP HATING PEOPLE AN JUST ENJOY THE JUCIEST GREAT SHOW PLZ I LOVE GOSSIP GIRL

Gossip Girl Season 5 Episode 7 Quotes

Dorota: Uh oh. Mr. Chuck in dream again.
Blair: When Chuck's in them they're all nightmares.
Dorota: What he do now?
Blair: Behave like a perfect gentleman. Which makes him even more chilling. That fake apology of his has permeated my subconscious and haunts me even when I sleep.
Dorota: Apology not seem so fake to me.
Blair: That's because English is your second language!

Good morning, Upper East Siders. Or is it? We hear a certain future royal has had more than one rude awakening this week.

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Gossip Girl Season 5 Episode 7 Music

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Haunted heart Haunted Heart Little Hurricane iTunes
Shells of silver Shells of Silver The Japanese Popstars iTunes
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