Criminal Minds Review: So Long, Strauss Comments (Page 2)
32 Comments
Michael
December 8th, 2011 11:08 PM
I would just like to point out Mogran face expressing at the end when Hotch ask him to come with him he almost said no
Tiffany
December 8th, 2011 8:02 PM
I absolutely LOVED this episode! Seriously, one of my favorites of the season! Yes, there were some stretches of the imagination...as there always are, considering this is a fictional series, and SOME dramatic license always has to be assumed. Anyone who knows me, knows that I am a HUGE Hotch/TG fan. However, he had it coming. I was actually suprised that the "butting heads" scene was as mild as it was. Morgan was rather easy on Hotch IMO. I really liked the way they handled it at the end though, with Hotch letting Morgan take the lead by having him go with Strauss to check her into rehab. Am I the only one who caught the unspoken sentiment when Hotch mentioned that she had Morgan to thank for the "privacy"? Favorite line of the entire episode!
Reid fan
December 8th, 2011 7:26 PM
It was intriguing not knowing the unsub until later in the show, though I did have the headmaster pegged as a part of the problem and not the solution.
As far as Strauss, I was never so glad to see anyone go! I do hope they bring in a new challenge for her role. Perhaps someone less acidic!
I, too, would like to see more use of Prentiss and JJ. It is so good to have JJ back but they aren't using her as much as they did in the past. Frankly, I am glad to have the team back together. I see there is still resentment toward Rossi for his replacement of Pantikin's character. Have they forgotten all ready that Mandy abandoned the show and not the other way around. Rossi has fit in well. There is a formula for this team and I hope they don't undo the recipe again!
Carolyn
December 8th, 2011 7:08 PM
Had to go out and forgot to TiVo grrr can't wait till next week
Jess
December 8th, 2011 6:43 PM
The whole Strauss storyline was pathetic with her drinking problem and completely out the blue for a woman that was suppose to be a mother of three, another storyline for Hotch to play the holy than thou saint and pass judgement on her. Her first introduction to the show was Hotch claiming she favoured her son over her daughters and he wants Morgan to respect his authority when he constantly disrespecting his own boss (talk about double standards).
Hotch self righteous attitude is becoming a bore and Morgan flexing his muscles is tiresome. The whole show is just about male egos and if Hotch can be disrespectful towards his boss then he shouldn’t get put out when Morgan does it to him. May the title of the article should be So Long Erica Messer, and CBS should invest in a better show runner.
Alisa Neely Rank: Extra
December 8th, 2011 4:21 PM
i liked it....i am wondering if strauss is drinking due to some sort of pain....i think back to the last eppy of last season, where she said,she was taking time off .
as for hotch & morgan: i feel morgan was RIGHT to be pissed at hotch for NOT giving him a head's up on struass....they need to be able to TRUST each other....however, keeping information makes that hard...hotch maybe the BOSS of the team....however, they NEED to be able to TRUST him...he's sending them out into DANGEROUS things.....if he withholds information, can put them in danger....and that is BAD....if hotch wants them to trust him, then he needs to be MORE open with information.....STOP HOLDING BACK.
i LOVED that morgan is STILL using the office that was setup for him, back when he was leading the team.
LOVED the bit with rossi and the poison ivy comment....i did laugh out loud.
i'm NOT a fan of prentiss....never really liked her.
alisa
Vicki
December 8th, 2011 4:05 PM
It doesn't matter what the reason for her drinking is. She's an alcoholic- that's the reason. I would think that her rise through the FBI was intensely tough, fraught with lots of macho discrimination towards her rise in the Bureau ( "You know she has to be sleeping with the boss.") We know nothing about her personal life now, if she has one. BUT, lots of people have the same kinds of problems and drink, but do not become alcoholics. She can't control her drinking, it controls her.
Mara
December 8th, 2011 2:57 PM
For those calling for more use of Prentiss, the 150th episode (episode 12 I believe) is going to be Prentiss-centric and focus on how she dealt/is dealing with the fallout from the Doyle case. It'll air Jan. 25. I can't wait, as Prentiss is a fave. I thought last night's show was solid, but I hope they explain the reasons behind Strauss's alcoholism. I hate it when story lines just pop up out of the blue and then disappear.
Art
December 8th, 2011 2:52 PM
Good episode! No irrelevant fluff, therefore good. :-)
Strauss is a secondary character. She's not even in the main credits, so if they want to get rid of her I'm fine with that, but Morgan is out of line. His bullish, macho-man attitude and total disrespect for Hotch, (and for Strauss), pisses me off. He did the same thing in the episode "Lo-Fi", at the end of season 3. I didn't like it then and I don't like it now.
Josie Leeds Rank: Guest Star
December 8th, 2011 2:28 PM
Hotch: guilty of serious hypocrisy. If he finds it a detriment that team members have "secrets", he then must include himself in the equation. I don't care if he is "in charge"...don't demand from your team what you will not do yourself. Your self-righteous streak is getting a little pronounced.
Morgan: did the right thing, with just the right touch. Dealing with alcoholics requires more brute honesty than mincing around. Good job, Morgan.
Strauss: good riddance. The woman has been an annoying, uninteresting, predictable irritant since day one. Unfortunately, the writers will deem it necessary to either bring her back, sober and even MORE obnoxious or, bring in another character equally irritating.
The rest of the cast: superb, as usual. Just wish the writers would make more use of each one beyond the same dialogue each week.
Blu Rank: Regular Character
December 8th, 2011 2:27 PM
I enjoyed the episode. I loved that we were seemingly kept in the dark on who the unsub was. I also liked the partnerings. I loved it when Reid and Garcia share the screen and I like Prentiss and Rossi together. I even enjoyed seeing Morgan with Strauss.
As far as the Morgan and Hotch thing. I was thrilled that Morgan finally called Hotch out. I've been waiting 7yrs for that. I love both characters but I always resented how they ride Morgan like Seabiscuit for having "trust issues" or for a number of other things, but don't acknowledge the hypocrisy in it (not to mention ignore or downgrade when somebody else does things the way he does...Prentiss is just as impulsive, secretive, and vocal but never catches the heat that Morgan does). Hotch always gets on Morgan's case for keeping things from him, being too impulsive, or possibly putting them or himself at risk, but in not telling Morgan the issue with Strauss that's exactly what HE did. Leadership is one thing, but when you're run
MWK
December 8th, 2011 2:06 PM
Every week the team makes an incredible leap to psyche out who the unsub is, right from the first episode when they made the leap to decide it was a car for sale ruse to get women alone. So, I go with that thing happily enough until I am struck by something so absurd that it breaks into my attention and disrupts the plot. I could go with the anti-technology idea and the corrupt Colonel fronting for the evil bully kid, but I could not believe that none of the boys for the few years that the bully was there, NEVER WROTE HOME TO COMPLAIN????? I could not believe 99% of the parents didn't come to pull their kids out after a mass murder????
Otherwise it was a pretty good episode. I disliked the parents of the kid who was a pain in the Colonel's rear-end and boy, I was impressed by how much of a gorilla fighter that kid became and was so smart in the woods. Strauss is a "meh" as I care nothing about her although if she get fired, Hotch can and will go up in the ranks.
I am very glad to see Strauss go! She most definitely did not contribute to the group's cohesiveness. Her departure will most likely give the other characters more room for development.
I really liked this episode with the way it kept us on our toes about the truth about what had happened/was happening at the academy. The tension between Hotch and Morgan was great too because I could see both sides of the argument: Hotch may have been under no obligation to tell Morgan anything, but at the same time being constantly kept in the dark by someone who has called him to task on his trust issues in the past as well as put in a difficult position with a witness/suspect and his supervisor's supervisor was understandably upseting to Morgan. Honestly, I think that under the circumstances Hotch should have partnered himself with Strauss if he wasn't going to give Morgan any type of heads-up.
The B-story of Strauss' drinking problem fell a little flat with me, mostly because I don't give a crap about her - her appearances on the show are, for the most part, beyond grating and throw off the rhythm of the whatever episode it is - but Reid and Garcia's exchanges were cute and R
Michael
December 8th, 2011 10:07 AM
Then Hotch should not get upset when his team does the same to him
Definitely Strauss will be back.......I'm betting before the end of the season.........there has to be a thorn in the teams side.....
As for Hotch not keeping Morgan in the loop, as someone else metioned, he doesn't have to. And it doesn't have to do with trust. It has to do with
Hotch being high up on the food chain.
Michael
December 8th, 2011 9:29 AM
You know at first they were going to have Emily come back mid season to drag it out but so many fan were in a uproa that they made it the season opener
sari
December 8th, 2011 9:00 AM
i love last night episode. i love not knowing who the unsub is and guessing along with the time. am tired of morgon questioning Hotch. hotch is the boss he can keep somethings from the team, he is on a higher level than them, morgan needs to respect that. am not a big fan of strauss but i like that she doesnt put up with the team BS. i like that she is against them. the show wouldnt be good if she was always on their side. i hope she comes back. and i agree with you, prentiss isnt being use enough, neither is JJ.
Michael
December 8th, 2011 8:33 AM
I said it was good I think Prentiss just fine Im sure they don't want to make the same mistake NCIS made when they brought Ziva back when they made her the cerat of the WHOLE SEASON.
I wonder why Strass is drinking maybe her family dead or they left her it will be fun to find out she always seem like the teams Grandmother of sorts. I too wonder if Reid was talking about himself when who knew a nice ghost or maybe he has a brother that we didn't know about.
As for Hotch and Morgan all I can think about is season 2 Profiler pofile when Hotch said we can't have people on the team with serects and now he the one keeping them and if Hotch does not watch out he will lose his team.
I do wish they would do more with JJ then have her talking to the family to be truthfully do we really need Rossi Both of his personal storyline were a bomb and really he not Gideon no matter how hard they try.
Next week looks fun for their last one of 2011 I hope they do use JJ more though
kay
December 8th, 2011 8:17 AM
the story really creeped me out! the whole putting kids in an industrial dryer thing was disturbing. i liked it, but still wish we could get more prentiss
Sue Ann Rank: Regular Character
December 8th, 2011 7:12 AM
I managed not to notice that Prentiss was in the episode, which is always the way I like it. I wondered whether Reid was the three-year-old boy he was talking about, who knew a nice ghost. I think he was.
I was glad to see Strauss sent off to rehab. Any time she is not on is a better time for this team. She is always a problem, never a solution. Her original story line way back when was that she would ensure that Hotch never advanced in the FBI. She is a political snake. Alcoholism is no excuse for bad character, and she has a bad character.
I think Morgan did the right thing regarding Strauss's problem and her behavior, but I still don't much care for the character. He is too emotional, too apt to jump before thinking, too poorly self-controlled. I have worked for people like him, and it is not a treat. I will never do it again. Morgan tends to be a loose cannon, and Hotch is not under any obligation to tell him everything which is going on. It is NOT his job to kn
Amanda
December 8th, 2011 6:35 AM
We are almost at the middle of the season and Prentiss is not the same yet. She used to be all over the place with her jokes and irony. This season was supposed to be the best one and so far it's a huge disappointment.
December 8th, 2011 11:08 PM
I would just like to point out Mogran face expressing at the end when Hotch ask him to come with him he almost said no
December 8th, 2011 8:02 PM
I absolutely LOVED this episode! Seriously, one of my favorites of the season! Yes, there were some stretches of the imagination...as there always are, considering this is a fictional series, and SOME dramatic license always has to be assumed. Anyone who knows me, knows that I am a HUGE Hotch/TG fan. However, he had it coming. I was actually suprised that the "butting heads" scene was as mild as it was. Morgan was rather easy on Hotch IMO. I really liked the way they handled it at the end though, with Hotch letting Morgan take the lead by having him go with Strauss to check her into rehab. Am I the only one who caught the unspoken sentiment when Hotch mentioned that she had Morgan to thank for the "privacy"? Favorite line of the entire episode!
December 8th, 2011 7:26 PM
It was intriguing not knowing the unsub until later in the show, though I did have the headmaster pegged as a part of the problem and not the solution.
As far as Strauss, I was never so glad to see anyone go! I do hope they bring in a new challenge for her role. Perhaps someone less acidic!
I, too, would like to see more use of Prentiss and JJ. It is so good to have JJ back but they aren't using her as much as they did in the past. Frankly, I am glad to have the team back together. I see there is still resentment toward Rossi for his replacement of Pantikin's character. Have they forgotten all ready that Mandy abandoned the show and not the other way around. Rossi has fit in well. There is a formula for this team and I hope they don't undo the recipe again!
December 8th, 2011 7:08 PM
Had to go out and forgot to TiVo grrr can't wait till next week
December 8th, 2011 6:43 PM
The whole Strauss storyline was pathetic with her drinking problem and completely out the blue for a woman that was suppose to be a mother of three, another storyline for Hotch to play the holy than thou saint and pass judgement on her. Her first introduction to the show was Hotch claiming she favoured her son over her daughters and he wants Morgan to respect his authority when he constantly disrespecting his own boss (talk about double standards).
Hotch self righteous attitude is becoming a bore and Morgan flexing his muscles is tiresome. The whole show is just about male egos and if Hotch can be disrespectful towards his boss then he shouldn’t get put out when Morgan does it to him. May the title of the article should be So Long Erica Messer, and CBS should invest in a better show runner.
Rank: Extra
December 8th, 2011 4:21 PM
i liked it....i am wondering if strauss is drinking due to some sort of pain....i think back to the last eppy of last season, where she said,she was taking time off .
as for hotch & morgan: i feel morgan was RIGHT to be pissed at hotch for NOT giving him a head's up on struass....they need to be able to TRUST each other....however, keeping information makes that hard...hotch maybe the BOSS of the team....however, they NEED to be able to TRUST him...he's sending them out into DANGEROUS things.....if he withholds information, can put them in danger....and that is BAD....if hotch wants them to trust him, then he needs to be MORE open with information.....STOP HOLDING BACK.
i LOVED that morgan is STILL using the office that was setup for him, back when he was leading the team.
LOVED the bit with rossi and the poison ivy comment....i did laugh out loud.
i'm NOT a fan of prentiss....never really liked her.
alisa
December 8th, 2011 4:05 PM
It doesn't matter what the reason for her drinking is. She's an alcoholic- that's the reason. I would think that her rise through the FBI was intensely tough, fraught with lots of macho discrimination towards her rise in the Bureau ( "You know she has to be sleeping with the boss.") We know nothing about her personal life now, if she has one. BUT, lots of people have the same kinds of problems and drink, but do not become alcoholics. She can't control her drinking, it controls her.
December 8th, 2011 2:57 PM
For those calling for more use of Prentiss, the 150th episode (episode 12 I believe) is going to be Prentiss-centric and focus on how she dealt/is dealing with the fallout from the Doyle case. It'll air Jan. 25. I can't wait, as Prentiss is a fave. I thought last night's show was solid, but I hope they explain the reasons behind Strauss's alcoholism. I hate it when story lines just pop up out of the blue and then disappear.
December 8th, 2011 2:52 PM
Good episode! No irrelevant fluff, therefore good. :-)
Strauss is a secondary character. She's not even in the main credits, so if they want to get rid of her I'm fine with that, but Morgan is out of line. His bullish, macho-man attitude and total disrespect for Hotch, (and for Strauss), pisses me off. He did the same thing in the episode "Lo-Fi", at the end of season 3. I didn't like it then and I don't like it now.
Rank: Guest Star
December 8th, 2011 2:28 PM
Hotch: guilty of serious hypocrisy. If he finds it a detriment that team members have "secrets", he then must include himself in the equation. I don't care if he is "in charge"...don't demand from your team what you will not do yourself. Your self-righteous streak is getting a little pronounced.
Morgan: did the right thing, with just the right touch. Dealing with alcoholics requires more brute honesty than mincing around. Good job, Morgan.
Strauss: good riddance. The woman has been an annoying, uninteresting, predictable irritant since day one. Unfortunately, the writers will deem it necessary to either bring her back, sober and even MORE obnoxious or, bring in another character equally irritating.
The rest of the cast: superb, as usual. Just wish the writers would make more use of each one beyond the same dialogue each week.
Rank: Regular Character
December 8th, 2011 2:27 PM
I enjoyed the episode. I loved that we were seemingly kept in the dark on who the unsub was. I also liked the partnerings. I loved it when Reid and Garcia share the screen and I like Prentiss and Rossi together. I even enjoyed seeing Morgan with Strauss.
As far as the Morgan and Hotch thing. I was thrilled that Morgan finally called Hotch out. I've been waiting 7yrs for that. I love both characters but I always resented how they ride Morgan like Seabiscuit for having "trust issues" or for a number of other things, but don't acknowledge the hypocrisy in it (not to mention ignore or downgrade when somebody else does things the way he does...Prentiss is just as impulsive, secretive, and vocal but never catches the heat that Morgan does). Hotch always gets on Morgan's case for keeping things from him, being too impulsive, or possibly putting them or himself at risk, but in not telling Morgan the issue with Strauss that's exactly what HE did. Leadership is one thing, but when you're run
December 8th, 2011 2:06 PM
Every week the team makes an incredible leap to psyche out who the unsub is, right from the first episode when they made the leap to decide it was a car for sale ruse to get women alone. So, I go with that thing happily enough until I am struck by something so absurd that it breaks into my attention and disrupts the plot. I could go with the anti-technology idea and the corrupt Colonel fronting for the evil bully kid, but I could not believe that none of the boys for the few years that the bully was there, NEVER WROTE HOME TO COMPLAIN????? I could not believe 99% of the parents didn't come to pull their kids out after a mass murder????
Otherwise it was a pretty good episode. I disliked the parents of the kid who was a pain in the Colonel's rear-end and boy, I was impressed by how much of a gorilla fighter that kid became and was so smart in the woods. Strauss is a "meh" as I care nothing about her although if she get fired, Hotch can and will go up in the ranks.
Morgan was okay
Rank: New User
December 8th, 2011 2:06 PM
I am very glad to see Strauss go! She most definitely did not contribute to the group's cohesiveness. Her departure will most likely give the other characters more room for development.
Rank: Guest Star
December 8th, 2011 10:16 AM
I really liked this episode with the way it kept us on our toes about the truth about what had happened/was happening at the academy. The tension between Hotch and Morgan was great too because I could see both sides of the argument: Hotch may have been under no obligation to tell Morgan anything, but at the same time being constantly kept in the dark by someone who has called him to task on his trust issues in the past as well as put in a difficult position with a witness/suspect and his supervisor's supervisor was understandably upseting to Morgan. Honestly, I think that under the circumstances Hotch should have partnered himself with Strauss if he wasn't going to give Morgan any type of heads-up.
The B-story of Strauss' drinking problem fell a little flat with me, mostly because I don't give a crap about her - her appearances on the show are, for the most part, beyond grating and throw off the rhythm of the whatever episode it is - but Reid and Garcia's exchanges were cute and R
December 8th, 2011 10:07 AM
Then Hotch should not get upset when his team does the same to him
Rank: Extra
December 8th, 2011 9:37 AM
Definitely Strauss will be back.......I'm betting before the end of the season.........there has to be a thorn in the teams side.....
As for Hotch not keeping Morgan in the loop, as someone else metioned, he doesn't have to. And it doesn't have to do with trust. It has to do with
Hotch being high up on the food chain.
December 8th, 2011 9:29 AM
You know at first they were going to have Emily come back mid season to drag it out but so many fan were in a uproa that they made it the season opener
December 8th, 2011 9:00 AM
i love last night episode. i love not knowing who the unsub is and guessing along with the time. am tired of morgon questioning Hotch. hotch is the boss he can keep somethings from the team, he is on a higher level than them, morgan needs to respect that. am not a big fan of strauss but i like that she doesnt put up with the team BS. i like that she is against them. the show wouldnt be good if she was always on their side. i hope she comes back. and i agree with you, prentiss isnt being use enough, neither is JJ.
December 8th, 2011 8:33 AM
I said it was good I think Prentiss just fine Im sure they don't want to make the same mistake NCIS made when they brought Ziva back when they made her the cerat of the WHOLE SEASON.
I wonder why Strass is drinking maybe her family dead or they left her it will be fun to find out she always seem like the teams Grandmother of sorts. I too wonder if Reid was talking about himself when who knew a nice ghost or maybe he has a brother that we didn't know about.
As for Hotch and Morgan all I can think about is season 2 Profiler pofile when Hotch said we can't have people on the team with serects and now he the one keeping them and if Hotch does not watch out he will lose his team.
I do wish they would do more with JJ then have her talking to the family to be truthfully do we really need Rossi Both of his personal storyline were a bomb and really he not Gideon no matter how hard they try.
Next week looks fun for their last one of 2011 I hope they do use JJ more though
December 8th, 2011 8:17 AM
the story really creeped me out! the whole putting kids in an industrial dryer thing was disturbing. i liked it, but still wish we could get more prentiss
Rank: Regular Character
December 8th, 2011 7:12 AM
I managed not to notice that Prentiss was in the episode, which is always the way I like it. I wondered whether Reid was the three-year-old boy he was talking about, who knew a nice ghost. I think he was.
I was glad to see Strauss sent off to rehab. Any time she is not on is a better time for this team. She is always a problem, never a solution. Her original story line way back when was that she would ensure that Hotch never advanced in the FBI. She is a political snake. Alcoholism is no excuse for bad character, and she has a bad character.
I think Morgan did the right thing regarding Strauss's problem and her behavior, but I still don't much care for the character. He is too emotional, too apt to jump before thinking, too poorly self-controlled. I have worked for people like him, and it is not a treat. I will never do it again. Morgan tends to be a loose cannon, and Hotch is not under any obligation to tell him everything which is going on. It is NOT his job to kn
December 8th, 2011 6:35 AM
We are almost at the middle of the season and Prentiss is not the same yet. She used to be all over the place with her jokes and irony. This season was supposed to be the best one and so far it's a huge disappointment.