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How many episodes are there in a H50 usually!
I wonder of they are going later!

Martinelli

So I guess Makoto knew what or who Shelburn is and Wo Fat knew that Makoto knew, so he went to his house and killed him.
Putting together these pieces, I guess Makoto (Japanese) knew about some dirty things between Hawaii (handled by Governor James) and Japan (handled by Wo Fat and who knows who else).
Then at the end Joe tells Steve: "We did this. Our questions got Makoto killed. You continue to go down this road son, you got to ask yourself how many more lives is that going to cost."
I'm glad I watches these scenes again, now i can see things more clearly. At this point I think Joe is on Steve's side and he's protecting him, even though he's not doing so well. Finally, sorry for my English, I tried to do my best.

Martinelli

In epi 2.04, Kensi is analyzing the video:
- McG Senior tells Wo Fat: "I want to know about Shelburn"
- Wo Fat asks McG Senior: "Who told you about Shelburn"
- Joe asks Steve if that means anything to him. At this point we don't know whether Shelburn is a place or a person, that will be clarified later.
So after this, half of our guesses are incorrect. McG Senior can't be Shelburn, can't be his wife, can't be Steve, can't be Makoto, can't be Joe either.
Then Steve tells Kensi Makoto hired his father to investigate Governor James. Investigating the Governor? No wonder he was killed.
Later Wo Fat pays Joe a visit, asking him why is he asking questions about men that are no longer with them. Joe tells him he'll stop asking those questions when Wo Fat tells him about Shelburn and also asks Wo Fat what is that (Shelburn) mean. Wo Fat looks surprised, worried actually, I guess he wasn't expecting this.

Martinelli

In epi 2.04 Joe says to Steve: "Did you ever think that maybe you are not the only one I am trying to protect? Risk vs reward Steve. How much damage do you want to do to your family, to your family's name? Cause whatever it is on that video, it's not gonna bring you father back."

I guess this is the only time when he is telling him something even though it doesn't make much sense to us.

There is one very important thing here: How much damage do you want to do to your family, to your family's name?
How could Steve damage his family's name by finding out the truth? What damage is Joe talking about? As far as we know Steve's father was after the bad guys because if he would have been dirty, he wouldn't let Steve know what he was after. Who is/are the other/others Joe is protecting? How can he protect these people by covering up who knows what?

I think I should finish my questions here.

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@Amazingalex....I think Chin goes back and forth from boss to Steve, and I only recall Danny calling him Steven, when he is irritated with him. Regardless, I don't think someone who was that new would insert herself that fast into a team, nor would the team trust her that fast since she was placed there by the new governor after they just found out the old one was so crooked.

By the way, I saw that PL tweeted that Danny's girlfriend, the science woman or whoever she was, will be making another appearance this year. So it does not look like he is getting back with Rachael.

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OK, no China, but I think someone else mentioned China in another comment.

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@Martinelli......I did not remember anyone from China, so if China, North Korea, (since they have been there twice), and Japan (Yakuza and Shelburne hiding there), are all involved, then there has to be some sort of international connection. Along with the previous Governor of Hawaii being crooked. You are right politics are connected one way or another.

But why is Joe so adamant about keeping things from Steve? Who does not know what has happened over the last 20 yrs. He is a Navy Seal who Joe trained, so why would he not think that he could help solve this? If the Senior McG is dead and he told Steve he was sorry he lied and then led him to the lock box with all the clues, wouldn't Joe realize that he wanted Steve to now know what was going on?

Martinelli

@amazingalex - sorry, of course I meant Japan. Sorry.

Amazingalex

@martinelli..I think you meant japan not china.:) Joe keeps going to japan and the postcards are from japan. That connection confuses me more then anything so far.

Amazingalex

@zia..actually lori is the only one on the team who does not call steve boss...she thinks she is his equal apparently. Go back and watch, you will only see her call him steve. I find that irritating. LOL but what else is new with me in regards to lori.

@martinelli..what does it mean that I am obsessed with both things, my hatred of lori and my love for steve.LOL!!!!




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